Bush Radio Address: Vote for Me and I'll Cut Your Taxes!

[Hel'n]

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH DELIVERS WEEKLY RADIO ADDRESS
Sat Oct 02 2004 11:11:30 ET

BUSH: Good morning. Next week, in Iowa, I will proudly sign the Working Families Tax Relief Act. This bipartisan law is good news for America's families.

It keeps in place major portions of the tax relief we passed over the last three years. It preserves marriage penalty relief, the thousand dollar child tax credit, and the expanded 10-percent tax bracket. The law also increases the refund limit on the child tax credit, which means about 7 million low-income families will get higher refund checks next year.

Because we acted, 94 million Americans will have a lower tax bill again next year, including 70 million women and 38 million families with children. I met many families that are benefiting from tax relief, including Gary and Angela Brown, from Springfield, Missouri. Gary works at a manufacturing company, and Angela stays at home with their four children. Last year, the Browns saved about $3,000 on their taxes.

They used some of that money to put a down payment on braces for their daughter. If Congress had not extended tax relief, the Brown's tax bill would have gone up $1,500 next year. Now, because we acted, they will be able to keep and use that money. The tax relief has helped millions of families, like the Browns, to spend, save, and invest for the future. Thanks to their hard work, America's economy is strong and getting stronger.

This week brought more evidence that tax relief is helping our entire economy move forward. The economy grew at an annual rate of 3.3 percent in the second quarter. America's economy has been growing at rates as fast as any in nearly 20 years.

And for 12 consecutive months, our economy has been creating jobs. We've added 1.7 million jobs since August, 2003, including 107,000 manufacturing jobs since January.

The unemployment rate is now 5.4 percent, down almost a full point since June, 2003, and below the average rate of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. The home ownership rate is at an all-time high, and new home sales are still rising. After-tax income is increasing, which means workers are keeping more of their paychecks. The tax relief we passed is working.

Having extended tax relief, we must take additional action to strengthen our economy so every American who wants to work can find a job. To create more jobs, we need to reduce the burden of regulation on small businesses. We need to end the junk lawsuits that keep entrepreneurs from creating new jobs.

Congress needs to pass my energy plan to make America less dependent on foreign sources of oil. We need to open more foreign markets to American products and ensure that other countries play by the rules. We must continue to spend taxpayer dollars wisely in Washington, D.C. And to help families and small businesses plan with confidence, we need to make all of the tax relief permanent.

Some politicians in Washington have a different view of tax relief. When I proposed tax relief for working families in 2001 and 2003, Senator Kerry and other Democratic leaders voted against it.

In fact, Senator Kerry has voted consistently against marriage penalty relief, against increasing the child tax credit, and against expanding the 10-percent bracket. Now Senator Kerry and the Democrat leaders are proposing a lot of new federal spending, and the only way to pay for all their promises is to raise taxes on working families. You know where I stand. Higher taxes are the wrong policy for this growing economy. Our families and our country are better off when government lets people keep more of what they earn.

And that is why I'll work with Congress to keep taxes low, and that is why I will proudly sign the Working Families Tax Relief Act of 2004 into law.

Thank you for listening.

END

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm

[Hel'n]

There he goes again.... trolling for votes using $$$ rather than addressing the issues... :shake:

[MadProphetMargin]

There he goes again.... trolling for votes using $$$ rather than addressing the issues... :shake:

Remember, kiddies: Deficits don't matter! PBJ PBJ PBJ

[|Zach|]

Weather his tax cuts are effective or not I don't see how money is not one of the "issues"

[MadProphetMargin]

Weather his tax cuts are effective or not I don't see how money is not one of the "issues"

So, that DIDN'T seem like a pathetic attempt to buy votes?

[|Zach|]

So, that DIDN'T seem like a pathetic attempt to buy votes?
It does when phrased the way this subject line was...

But within the context of the radio address, no I dont think it is.

[MadProphetMargin]

It does when phrased the way this subject line was...

But within the context of the radio address, no I dont think it is.


Really? I didn't notice any real difference between the two.

[|Zach|]

Really? I didn't notice any real difference between the two.
This doesn't suprise me. People that are partisan usually have no perspective or good understanding of context. They see what they want to see.

[MadProphetMargin]

This doesn't suprise me. People that are partisan usually have no perspective or good understanding of context. They see what they want to see.


And people that drink the koolaid see what they're TOLD to see. :D

[|Zach|]

And people that drink the koolaid see what they're TOLD to see. :D
I am no fan of Bush. I just call them like I see them.

[MadProphetMargin]

I am no fan of Bush. I just call them like I see them.

So, Bush discusses massive new tax cuts 30 days before an election...what DO you see here?

[|Zach|]

So, Bush discusses massive new tax cuts 30 days before an election...what DO you see here?
Tax Cuts are big part of his plan...alot of people like tax cuts...whats the big deal?

You can disagree with the tax cuts I see no problem with that...

But the way he is being potrayed in this thread is foolish...

He is trying to become President for another term. Why is he being made fun of for reaching out to voters with something that a lot of people who vote will prob like.

[MadProphetMargin]

Tax Cuts are big part of his plan...alot of people like tax cuts...whats the big deal?

You can disagree with the tax cuts I see no problem with that...

But the way he is being potrayed in this thread is foolish...

He is trying to become President for another term. Why is he being made fun of for reaching out to voters with something that a lot of people who vote will prob like.


Because it's really all he's got. Everything he's touched has turned to shit, so he goes for the bribe.

Hell, if I were in his shoes, I'd do the same thing...

[Ash]

Because it's really all he's got. Everything he's touched has turned to shit, so he goes for the bribe.

Hell, if I were in his shoes, I'd do the same thing...

We have a winner I have had numerous republicans that I have come into contact with in my daily life concede that bush deserves to lose the election because of the mess o potamia that hes created.but they are still voting for him because of nothing else but tax cuts.I actually had a guy say when I asked him about the deficit that he cant see the deficit from his window so it dosent bother him but that big screen is really looking good this year :banghead:

[MadProphetMargin]

We have a winner I have had numerous republicans that I have come into contact with in my daily life concede that bush deserves to lose the election because of the mess o potamia that hes created.but they are still voting for him because of nothing else but tax cuts.I actually had a guy say when I asked him about the deficit that he cant see the deficit from his window so it dosent bother him but that big screen is really looking good this year :banghead:

Welcome to the post-American century.

[Cochise]

There he goes again.... trolling for votes using $$$ rather than addressing the issues... :shake:

Well, to many of us, including Bush's voting base, taxes ARE an issue.

And, if I'm not mistaken, sKerry has also been promising for the whole campaign to lower taxes.

At any rate, since the 16th amendment more or less ended any real limit on government spending, other than how much taxation people are willing to take, both parties troll for votes using dollars, as you put it. They just do it in different ways.

Republicans are attractive to some voters because they can generally be expected to lower one's tax burden. Democrats disseminate money through 'goodies' targeted at different groups. Free prescription drugs, free health care, etc etc. Voters get to pick their poison.

It would be nice if either party would be willing to cut taxes AND at the same time reduce the size of the government to match. But then you lose the goodies you can promise during your campaign. Unfortunately not many voters are going to like 'let's make the government smaller' compared with 'let's dump billions more into the public education system' or 'I'm going to pay for all your health care and medicine.'

I like the republicans better personally on these matters, for that reason. I want to see taxes go down and the government get smaller. Republicans generally give me one of those two, compared to neither from the other side.

Just my opinion. Obviously I like tax cuts and you don't, Hel'n, and neither of us will change the other's mind, but I think it's oversimplistic to say Bush is whoring himself out with tax cuts when sKerry also has the fishnets on and is working the same block.

[MadProphetMargin]

I like the republicans better personally on these matters, for that reason. I want to see taxes go down and the government get smaller. Republicans generally give me one of those two, compared to neither from the other side.


Well, they gave a tax cut or two, but they also presided over the largest civilian-side increase in the size of our government since it was formed. But, hey...we can afford those ~300K new government employees! We'll pay for it with a tax cut!

Just saying.

[|Zach|]

Just my opinion. Obviously I like tax cuts and you don't, Hel'n, and neither of us will change the other's mind, but I think it's oversimplistic to say Bush is whoring himself out with tax cuts when sKerry also has the fishnets on and is working the same block.
Bingo weather you like the tax cuts or not the way Bush is being painted in this thread is off base.

[MadProphetMargin]

Bingo weather you like the tax cuts or not the way Bush is being painted in this thread is off base.

Why do you say that? Looks like pandering to me.

[Cochise]

...they also presided over the largest civilian-side increase in the size of our government since it was formed.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. :hmmm:

[MadProphetMargin]

I'm not sure what you mean by this. :hmmm:

DHS much?

Remember how, when that was formed, it was supposed to be nothing more than a coordination office? ROFL

Of course, hiring has been done in other departments, too.

[|Zach|]

Why do you say that? Looks like pandering to me.
Post #8

[MadProphetMargin]

Post #8

Post #9.

[|Zach|]

Post #9.
Thats why I am suprised you answered me again. I guess you enjoy going in circles. To each their own.

[Metrolike]

Do you come from a wealthy family Zach?

[|Zach|]

Do you come from a wealthy family Zach?
I do...although my family has generally voted against whats best for our income situation.

[|Zach|]

I have been leaning for Kerry since the debate.

[Cochise]

Bingo weather you like the tax cuts or not the way Bush is being painted in this thread is off base.

Yeah, I'm not interested in debating the tax cut issue for the 14,000,000th time. I just thought the post I quoted was kind of strange, attacking Bush for promising tax cuts when sKerry promises to do it too, for most people. The sad truth is that the entire American political system is based on voter bribes of one sort or another. If you don't offer any, you don't win, because then you're an evil budget-cutter who wants to take away school lunches and shut the heat off in old ladies' apartments.

We're going to end up like the Soviet Union did, spending ourselves into bankruptcy eventually, and it will be because the prevailing wisdom anymore is that if people aren't happy with the way something works the government should take it over. The government can do it better than private businesses can. All we need is a little central planning. Let's leave it up to the experts. Let's hope the ship has a captain, as Chomsky would say. (I can't believe I quoted Chomsky)

Eventually we are going to end up in a 1984-like situation where the government is so enormous and ever-present in every aspect of our lives that it's impossible to discern anything that it isn't part of. And it will all be because of this principle that people think when the government takes something over it'll all be free.

[Cochise]

DHS much?

Remember how, when that was formed, it was supposed to be nothing more than a coordination office? ROFL

Of course, hiring has been done in other departments, too.

I still don't know what you are referring to. Perhaps I am just dense today. (there's a setup if there ever was one...)

[MadProphetMargin]

I still don't know what you are referring to. Perhaps I am just dense today. (there's a setup if there ever was one...)

HOLY CRAP! I was digging for some figures on the increase in total #s of federal employees, and I stumbled across THIS:

Public debt: 62.4% of GDP (2003)

This is the same as a person making $30,000/yr having $18,720 in credit card debt.

:spock:

[jettio]

John Edward's comes out swinging in the Democratic radio address.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_1002.html

%(/ Stooges :whip:

[MadProphetMargin]

Here we go:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2004/sheets/fpaa_26.xls

This should explain everything, cochise.

Your tax dollars at work.

[Loki]

There he goes again.... trolling for votes using $$$ rather than addressing the issues... :shake:

i'll be more than happy to take your refund check if you're not interested...
:rolleyes:

[Hel'n]

This doesn't suprise me. People that are partisan usually have no perspective or good understanding of context. They see what they want to see.

I am NOT a Dem or a Repub...

[Hel'n]

Well, to many of us, including Bush's voting base, taxes ARE an issue.

Just my opinion. Obviously I like tax cuts and you don't, Hel'n, and neither of us will change the other's mind, but I think it's oversimplistic to say Bush is whoring himself out with tax cuts when sKerry also has the fishnets on and is working the same block.

No, it's not so much the tax cuts as Bush's timing... that's what is so crass....

[MadProphetMargin]

No, it's not so much the tax cuts as Bush's timing... that's what is so crass....

...and yet so FUNNY. His desperation is palpable.

[|Zach|]

I am NOT a Dem or a Repub...
What?

That post wasn't aimed at you.

[beavis]

So, Bush discusses massive new tax cuts 30 days before an election...what DO you see here?
Where exactly did he discuss this? I believe he was talking about keeping the current tax cuts in place.

[BCD]

Remember, kiddies: Deficits don't matter! PBJ PBJ PBJExactly! No wasted revenue for useless socialist programs...

[Hel'n]

Exactly! No wasted revenue for useless socialist programs...

You mean, like Iraq?

[MadProphetMargin]

Exactly! No wasted revenue for useless socialist programs...

...like roads, schools, or the military!


Guess what, Spanky? When you're bankrupt to the point where the CHINESE have even stopped/slowed down on buying your debt, you're F*CKED.

But, of course, when we devalue our dollar to "inflate our way out of debt", like Argentina tried to do, and we can't even pay for our military, all those "irrelevant" nations will just fall all over themselves to trade with us, right? ROFL.


Look at Argentina, BCD...that's our future.

[MadProphetMargin]

You mean, like Iraq?

Hel'n, Hel'n, Hel'n...don't you understand yet?

1. Social programs/universal healthcare for Americans = bad.

2. Social programs/universal healthcare for Iraqis = good.

Why?

Don't worry about it.