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MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 08:27 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2686-2004Oct2_2.html

Residents also said an airstrike late Friday killed six members of a family and two overnight guests. Neighbors said the head of the household, Hamad Hdaib Mohammedi, was well known for his opposition to the insurgents. Television footage showed the dust-covered body of a small girl being pulled from the rubble of Mohammedi's home.


So, how's that "big hammer" approach working, eh? We just need to drop more bombs, right?
But hey...

Fifteen minutes after the strike, U.S. aircraft dropped leaflets calling on residents to eject foreign fighters and join the political process. The fliers offered $65 million in development projects but warned that the money would go to other cities if the population did not act soon.


...At least Hamad Hdaib Mohammedi can apply for one of those contracts!

FringeNC
10-02-2004, 08:36 PM
Yeah, one innocent gets killed and it's time to give up and accept dhimmitude.

MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 08:39 PM
Yeah, one innocent gets killed and it's time to give up and accept dhimmitude.

So, we should just drop more ordnance, and that will solve all of our problems. I wonder how Hamad Hdaib Mohammedi feels about the insurgents NOW?

TAKE THE GLOVES OFF! RAH! We'll probably only kill a FEW of our supporters! HEARTS AND MINDS, BABY!

ROFL

By the way, it wasn't ONE. It was 6 members of the family of one of our few suppotrers in Fallujah. Just saying.

Loki
10-02-2004, 09:48 PM
So, we should just drop more ordnance, and that will solve all of our problems. I wonder how Hamad Hdaib Mohammedi feels about the insurgents NOW?

TAKE THE GLOVES OFF! RAH! We'll probably only kill a FEW of our supporters! HEARTS AND MINDS, BABY!

ROFL

By the way, it wasn't ONE. It was 6 members of the family of one of our few suppotrers in Fallujah. Just saying.

sh*t happens dude... sometimes it's unfortunate sh*t. i hope you're also aware that the insurgents and terrorist operatives are also responsible for a lot of bystanders getting smoked.

side note. did you notice this article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6095119/)? mostly in regards to the "readiness factor" that the iraqi national guard is currently in? i'm pretty sure you and i were discussing their increased role a few months ago.

MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 10:30 PM
sh*t happens dude... sometimes it's unfortunate sh*t. i hope you're also aware that the insurgents and terrorist operatives are also responsible for a lot of bystanders getting smoked.

side note. did you notice this article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6095119/)? mostly in regards to the "readiness factor" that the iraqi national guard is currently in? i'm pretty sure you and i were discussing their increased role a few months ago.

1. You're talking to the wrong man. It ain't ME you have to convince. Perhaps you should send a letter to Hamad Hdaib Mohammedi, and explain that shit happens. I think he'll understand.

2. The Iraqi NG? Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're be about as reliable as the ARVN was. Clear sailing.

DanT
10-02-2004, 10:35 PM
All life is precious. The loss of even a single innocent life is a tragedy.

I'm glad to see President Bush has one of the chapters (#15) in his Record of Achievement devoted to a "Promoting a Culture of Life":

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/achievement/

MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 10:47 PM
All life is precious. The loss of even a single innocent life is a tragedy.


Sez you.

At any rate, in the context of this thread, the lives lost were in a family that was on our side in FALLUJAH...a very rare thing, indeed.

This is why I've railed against the "big hammer" approach. You almost NEVER get the bad guys, and occasionally you dump a shytload of ordnance on the GOOD guys. IOW, it's a losing proposition.

Yet, I fully expect to see certain posters here continue to jabber about "taking the gloves off", as if applying MORE force is the answer, rather than more intel.

Duck Dog
10-02-2004, 11:02 PM
I think MPM is trying to unseat islamistwhore.

MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 11:13 PM
I think MPM is trying to unseat islamistwhore.

???

Hel'n
10-02-2004, 11:16 PM
???


That's their low-brow name for Denisse... :mad:

MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 11:18 PM
That's their low-brow name for Denisse... :mad:


Classy

So, arguing for proven CI techniques over dumbassed flailing around is BAD in his eyes?

Why does DuckDog hate America, and love stupidity?

Duck Dog
10-02-2004, 11:24 PM
Classy

So, arguing for proven CI techniques over dumbassed flailing around is BAD in his eyes?

Why does DuckDog hate America, and love stupidity?

You're too easy.

Go away.

MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 11:25 PM
You're too easy.

Go away.

1. IOW, no response.

2. Blow me.

Ash
10-02-2004, 11:28 PM
I think MPM is trying to unseat islamistwhore.

That is fu#king horrible to disagree with someones politics is ok but to call them a whore?Theres no need for that kind of hate on this board, its a little disheartning to read such a dumb ass comment on a board where most people stay away from such hateful rhetoric.

MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 11:29 PM
That is fu#king horrible to disagree with someones politics is ok but to call them a whore?Theres no need for that kind of hate on this board, its a little disheartning to read such a dumb ass comment on a board where most people stay away from such hateful rhetoric.

What can you say? He's a real class act. :rolleyes:

Duck Dog
10-02-2004, 11:30 PM
Yawn.

You guys are boring.

MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 11:31 PM
Yawn.

You guys are boring.

It's okay if you run away. Most of the sissies do.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=32268&stc=1

Duck Dog
10-02-2004, 11:36 PM
LOL.

Your the one getting all pissed off. Yet you call me the sissy.


Get over yourselves.

I have to be in a cornfield at 5am to set up a hunt for clients. So I'm calling it a night. Just wanted to get under skin of few liberals before I hit the hay.

Don't worry, I'll be back later this weekend.

Have fun.

MadProphetMargin
10-02-2004, 11:39 PM
LOL.

Your the one getting all pissed off.

Really? *I* wrote:
I think MPM is trying to unseat islamistwhore.

??? ROFL

I have to be in a cornfield at 5am to set up a hunt for clients.

Translation: Your mom told you to get off the computer, and come up out of the basement.

We understand.

Loki
10-03-2004, 12:07 AM
1. You're talking to the wrong man. It ain't ME you have to convince. Perhaps you should send a letter to Hamad Hdaib Mohammedi, and explain that shit happens. I think he'll understand.

2. The Iraqi NG? Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're be about as reliable as the ARVN was. Clear sailing.


1. he probably already does understand.

2. point being, let THEM fight it out. save our groundpounders. it's THEIR friggin backyard anyways... (lol... ARVN)

MadProphetMargin
10-03-2004, 12:34 AM
1. he probably already does understand.

2. point being, let THEM fight it out. save our groundpounders. it's THEIR friggin backyard anyways... (lol... ARVN)

1. He probably understands that his kids are dead. I think that's probably the limits of his cognitive skills right now. At any rate, we didn't exactly cover ourselves in glory, or success.

2. Dare I say...Vietnamization? I agree with you, but I think the results will be something along the lines of:

http://www.superseventies.com/1975news.gif

go bowe
10-03-2004, 12:37 AM
That is fu#king horrible to disagree with someones politics is ok but to call them a whore?Theres no need for that kind of hate on this board, its a little disheartning to read such a dumb ass comment on a board where most people stay away from such hateful rhetoric.er, excuse me...

how long have you been reading the d.c. forum??

jcl-kcfan2
10-03-2004, 07:08 AM
That is fu#king horrible to disagree with someones politics is ok but to call them a whore?Theres no need for that kind of hate on this board, its a little disheartning to read such a dumb ass comment on a board where most people stay away from such hateful rhetoric.


Ash. it says you have been a member for quite a while... surely you aren't really surprised by someone calling her that.

That is on of the nicer names for the SBC (she came up with "SBC" herself).

Hell, "raider fan" is much worse than "whore"...

BCD
10-03-2004, 10:23 AM
So, we should just drop more ordnance, and that will solve all of our problems. I wonder how Hamad Hdaib Mohammedi feels about the insurgents NOW?

TAKE THE GLOVES OFF! RAH! We'll probably only kill a FEW of our supporters! HEARTS AND MINDS, BABY!

ROFL

By the way, it wasn't ONE. It was 6 members of the family of one of our few suppotrers in Fallujah. Just saying.You must be Meme's manwhore...

KCWolfman
10-03-2004, 10:31 AM
Nothing funnier than making jokes about innocent people being killed.


The liberals just crack me up

Loki
10-03-2004, 06:52 PM
1. He probably understands that his kids are dead. I think that's probably the limits of his cognitive skills right now. At any rate, we didn't exactly cover ourselves in glory, or success.

2. Dare I say...Vietnamization? I agree with you, but I think the results will be something along the lines of:

http://www.superseventies.com/1975news.gif

1. your point? sh*t happens right?

2. whatever you say mr. kennedy... (errr ahhh.... HIC... quagmire...HIC)
i daresay these iraqi meat-eaters have more SACK than the ARVN could ever hope to. your comparison is apples and oranges dude.

MadProphetMargin
10-03-2004, 08:21 PM
You must be Meme's manwhore...

Such brilliant debate from the right. I am crushed, CRUSHED I say, by your brilliant logic.

ROFL

You got soemthing to SAY, slappy, or do you just indulge in childish insults?

MadProphetMargin
10-03-2004, 08:30 PM
1. your point? sh*t happens right?

2. whatever you say mr. kennedy... (errr ahhh.... HIC... quagmire...HIC)
i daresay these iraqi meat-eaters have more SACK than the ARVN could ever hope to. your comparison is apples and oranges dude.


1. My point is that a stupid policy has just cost us an ally in an area where we have damn few...to no gain.

2. Naw. The Mad Prophet predicts (bookmark this thread) that the Iraqi NG will most likely vanish about 3 days after we leave. Most will join whichever religious tard looks ready to unite the country. Bank on it. In NO case will they last longer than 60 days.

Loki
10-04-2004, 09:02 AM
1. My point is that a stupid policy has just cost us an ally in an area where we have damn few...to no gain.

2. Naw. The Mad Prophet predicts (bookmark this thread) that the Iraqi NG will most likely vanish about 3 days after we leave. Most will join whichever religious tard looks ready to unite the country. Bank on it. In NO case will they last longer than 60 days.

1. i thought "something to gain" was a strict republican only policy. you're slipping dude. ;)

2. problem with your theory is, i DOUBT we're going anywhere. can you say "permanent base of operations to intimidate regional neighbors of iraq"? (or to appease israel)

it's hard to say what the free iraqi's are going to do. even harder to predict that their religion or religious leaders will hold all the cards when the smoke clears. do you really think that old school religious leaders opinions mean much to the younger generations? especially since they've had a glimpse of what their lives COULD be like without saddam or grizzled old mullahs?