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BigRedChief
12-08-2009, 07:12 AM
4000! BRC is an oracle!
Where's my stock market tip visions? :cuss:

patteeu
12-08-2009, 07:27 AM
4000! BRC is an oracle!

LMAO

Where's my stock market tip visions? :cuss:

LMAO

Buck
12-08-2009, 10:00 AM
This just isn't a show I would would want to own.

Oh yeah? Well fuck you.

DaneMcCloud
12-08-2009, 11:51 AM
This just isn't a show I would would want to own.

Really?

I missed seasons 1 & 2 of both Lost and 24. Without the benefit of the DVD's, I doubt I would have become fans of either because a week between episodes is a pretty difficult sell, especially considering that so many end in cliff-hangers.

Once we caught up on Lost, I was pretty good about the week to week thing but with "24", I'm over it.

Also, it's fun to hit the home exercise machines and watch previous seasons of Lost because there is always something you either missed or that pointed to something in later seasons.

Guru
12-08-2009, 01:33 PM
Really?

I missed seasons 1 & 2 of both Lost and 24. Without the benefit of the DVD's, I doubt I would have become fans of either because a week between episodes is a pretty difficult sell, especially considering that so many end in cliff-hangers.

Once we caught up on Lost, I was pretty good about the week to week thing but with "24", I'm over it.

Also, it's fun to hit the home exercise machines and watch previous seasons of Lost because there is always something you either missed or that pointed to something in later seasons.I say that as somebody that hasn't missed an episode. When this thing is all over, I have no interest in going back and watching it from the beginning knowing the ending now.

with the exception of 24(which I own only because it was dirt cheap at the time) the only TV DVDs that I have are comedies that have no ongoing story line.

Now, if I had missed a season or two like you mentioned, I would feel differently.

DaneMcCloud
12-08-2009, 01:37 PM
I say that as somebody that hasn't missed an episode. When this thing is all over, I have no interest in going back and watching it from the beginning knowing the ending now.

with the exception of 24(which I own only because it was dirt cheap at the time) the only TV DVDs that I have are comedies that have no ongoing story line.

Now, if I had missed a season or two like you mentioned, I would feel differently.

Gotcha.

We did the same thing with "Madmen". We've had friends for years tell us that it's an amazing show and just this past summer, we watched Season One on AMC, purchased Season Two and watched Season Three week to week.

It's an incredible show and probably my second favorite only to Lost in the past five-eight years.

Param
12-08-2009, 01:54 PM
Once this season is over, I will NEVER watch it again! Fools will buy this on DVD/Blu Ray!

:shake:

I usually do not watch anything again so yah I'm not buying this.

Also, if anyone needs to catch up you can watch every episode online of Lost at abc.com. I'm sure these will be pulled once the series is over.

Buck
12-08-2009, 02:30 PM
I've seen Season 1 and 2 of Lost probably about 7 times each Season 3 probably about 5 times and Season 4 about 3 times.

I love this show and I will watch it many times over.

Red Brooklyn
12-08-2009, 02:44 PM
Yeah, the replay value of LOST is unparalleled for me. There's literally something new each time, or some new revelation with each passing season. Season One is totally differnent with the knowlege of the events that have come after. It's amazing.

Just bought Season Five on DVD. Tonight is special features night. Wed begins the rewatch. I can't wait.

Red Brooklyn
12-12-2009, 04:33 PM
Anyone had a chance to check out the Season 5 DVD/Blu Ray special features? Thoughts?

Mr. Arrowhead
12-15-2009, 07:46 PM
i just watched season 1-5, in a matter of a month, I just couldnt stop watching. Cant wait til season 6

BigMeatballDave
12-16-2009, 05:37 AM
i just watched season 1-5, in a matter of a month, I just couldnt stop watching. Cant wait til season 6:eek: Holy shit! Thats A LOT of info in a short time.

DMAC
12-16-2009, 12:34 PM
I have never loved a show so much and at the same time can't wait for it to end.

Buck
12-16-2009, 12:40 PM
I have never loved a show so much and at the same time can't wait for it to end.

I never want it to end.

Fish
12-16-2009, 12:53 PM
It's pissing me off that they're advertising it like it's coming up next after the show you're watching... and then drop the Feb. 2nd bomb on you...

2 months? Dammit Carl! :cuss:

DMAC
12-16-2009, 01:24 PM
I never want it to end.I dont really enjoy shows though...Just kinda got hooked on Lost by accident.

Like trippin and fallin in an 8 ball.

BigMeatballDave
12-16-2009, 05:46 PM
It's pissing me off that they're advertising it like it's coming up next after the show you're watching... and then drop the Feb. 2nd bomb on you...

2 months? Dammit Carl! :cuss:2 months? You suck at math. :)

Mr. Arrowhead
12-17-2009, 02:33 PM
:eek: Holy shit! Thats A LOT of info in a short time.
it was prolly more like a month and a half, but there definitely some long nights. I would be watching a season and all a sudden its 3 in the morning.

irishjayhawk
12-18-2009, 12:41 PM
Can't decide which one I like better:

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Then some fan made ones:
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<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AgMhI0JirlQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AgMhI0JirlQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>

irishjayhawk
12-20-2009, 05:07 PM
This is a funny note. Juliette (Elizabeth Mitchell) is in Santa Claus 2.

Baby Lee
12-20-2009, 05:22 PM
Everything in its Right Place. Genius!!!!

Red Brooklyn
12-23-2009, 01:23 PM
FYI -

iTunes has some FREE LOST material up for a "limited time." You can download The Pilot Parts 1 & 2 and the recap episodes for no coin.

Buck
12-23-2009, 03:05 PM
FYI -

iTunes has some FREE LOST material up for a "limited time." You can download The Pilot Parts 1 & 2 and the recap episodes for no coin.

What about the soundtrack?

Red Brooklyn
12-23-2009, 04:06 PM
You know... I'm not sure. I don't recall seeing it, but I was only looking at the videos. I'll check when I get home.

Guru
12-23-2009, 10:01 PM
What about the soundtrack?nope

Red Brooklyn
01-05-2010, 08:23 AM
There are a couple of new LOST Season 6 promos out there that are kinda fun. The show LOST's take on 'The Last Supper'. There are two official versions floating around right now. It may be nothing, but it's interesting to note the subtle differences between the two shots. Most notably for me, that Claire switches sides...

I can't seem to figure out how to post the images in this thread so... here's a link to the photos:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=62104

Buck
01-05-2010, 10:34 AM
Ok, so I am not huge into religion, but maybe someone can point out where everyone is sitting and who is Judas, etc.

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/lostlastsupper1small.jpg
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/lostlastsupper2small.jpg
http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/uploaded/1897/the-last-supper.gif

patteeu
01-05-2010, 10:56 AM
Ok, so I am not huge into religion, but maybe someone can point out where everyone is sitting and who is Judas, etc.

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/lostlastsupper1small.jpg
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/lostlastsupper2small.jpg
http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/uploaded/1897/the-last-supper.gif

He's the guy with his elbow on the table, 4th head from the left. Link. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Supper_%28Leonardo%29)

Red Brooklyn
01-05-2010, 11:01 AM
Yep.

So, if we're meant to be drawing parallels... I think that makes Kate Judas.

oldandslow
01-05-2010, 04:01 PM
Kate betraying Locke (or Jacob) or Jack or everyone is not a huge stretch at all.

Claire switching sides is quite interesting.

Juliette must be dead or fighting aliens.

Locke or Jacob as Jesus isn't a long stretch either...being the mystic and all.

Don't know if Sayid, Kate, and Sawyer being on one side and Jack being on the other means anything either.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2010, 04:14 PM
Ok, so I am not huge into religion, but maybe someone can point out where everyone is sitting and who is Judas, etc.

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/lostlastsupper1small.jpg
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/lostlastsupper2small.jpg
http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/uploaded/1897/the-last-supper.gif

He the one sitting next to Mary Madelene and she's got her head on his shoulder.

Baby Lee
01-05-2010, 04:17 PM
I'm more interested in the dynamic that, in one shot all are staring forward and in the other all are staring in at Locke.

BigMeatballDave
01-05-2010, 04:24 PM
He the one sitting next to Mary Madelene and she's got her head on his shoulder. Magdalene. Jesus' wife or a prostitute? No one really knows.

Bearcat
01-05-2010, 06:25 PM
I've been watching all the episodes again on Hulu, and I'm in season 3 right now... I lost interest the first time and missed some episodes along the way, and it's much easier to figure out what's going on without all the breaks and crap (and 40 minutes per episode is nice, too). It's definitely gotten me back into the series, and hopefully I can catch up in the next month.

Mr. Plow
01-05-2010, 07:03 PM
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/lostlastsupper1small.jpg



http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/lostlastsupper2small.jpg








Forgive me....I did this for my own good so I could see them all together. I'm old and can't remember a picture going from one tab to the other.

patteeu
01-05-2010, 08:18 PM
He the one sitting next to Mary Madelene and she's got her head on his shoulder.

Apparently, the consensus among art historians is in disagreement with you (about that being Mary Magdalene), but Dan Brown says you're right:

Some writers identify the person to Jesus' right not with the Apostle John (as is supposed by iconographical tradition and confirmed by art historians) but with Mary Magdalene. This theory was the topic of the book The Templar Revelation, and plays a central role in Dan Brown's novel The Da Vinci Code (2003). They propose that the person in the painting seated, from a viewer’s point-of-view, to the left of Jesus is Mary Magdalene rather than John the Apostle, as most art historians identify that person.

kpic
01-06-2010, 04:23 AM
LOL - first thing I thought of was BSG last season, I could see if Desperate Housewives did this but LOST? They don't think the same type of viewer would watch BSG & LOST? They have the need to generate buzz at any cost?

Deberg_1990
01-10-2010, 01:19 PM
Wouldnt it be cool if they tied in the monster from Cloverfield into all this??

Werent there rumours of a tie in when that movie was out a few years back??

Buck
01-12-2010, 12:36 PM
Cool Lost Panel that took place today.

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2010/01/press_tour_live-blogging_the_f.html

Buck
01-12-2010, 12:40 PM
Coolest parts of that last article.

"9:26: Actors say the premiere had some head-scratchers, but Holloway says it also "felt like a finale, that scale." de Ravin: "I think I had to read it three times before it finally made sense." Lindelof: "Get ready to scratch your heads, America!""

"9:49: Harold Perrineau will be back in the final season. So will Cynthia Watros, aka Libby. Damon: "Fan favorite Libby will be back in the final season." Carlton: "All your Libby questions will be answered." Damon: "No, they will not, but Cynthia will be back."

Buck
01-12-2010, 12:42 PM
Wouldnt it be cool if they tied in the monster from Cloverfield into all this??

Werent there rumours of a tie in when that movie was out a few years back??

I believe there was someone on Lost drinking Slusho, which was tied into the movie Cloverfield.

Buck
01-12-2010, 12:42 PM
Wouldnt it be cool if they tied in the monster from Cloverfield into all this??

Werent there rumours of a tie in when that movie was out a few years back??

I believe there was someone on Lost drinking Slusho, which was tied into the movie Cloverfield.

Edit: Just checked, that was actually Heroes.

keg in kc
01-12-2010, 12:45 PM
He puts Slusho into everything. Zoe Saldana mentions it in the bar scene early-on in Star Trek.

irishjayhawk
01-12-2010, 03:33 PM
Coolest parts of that last article.

"9:26: Actors say the premiere had some head-scratchers, but Holloway says it also "felt like a finale, that scale." de Ravin: "I think I had to read it three times before it finally made sense." Lindelof: "Get ready to scratch your heads, America!""

"9:49: Harold Perrineau will be back in the final season. So will Cynthia Watros, aka Libby. Damon: "Fan favorite Libby will be back in the final season." Carlton: "All your Libby questions will be answered." Damon: "No, they will not, but Cynthia will be back."

Fantastic. I hope it's more complicated than Flash Forward in Through the Looking Glass, as I called that. One of those, I'm not mad I saw it coming. I wish they'd do more with Desmond and Penny, though. I coulda gone with a whole movie based around The Constant.

Red Brooklyn
01-16-2010, 10:47 AM
ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod!

I.
Can't.
Wait.

Brock
01-16-2010, 07:38 PM
Is Claire to be found or whatever this season?

Red Brooklyn
01-16-2010, 09:36 PM
Is Claire to be found or whatever this season?
yeah, TPTB said back before S5 that Claire would be absent for S5, but she'd be back for S6. I can't wait to find out what's been going on w/ her this whole time.

Brock
01-16-2010, 10:12 PM
hopefully she'll be less shrill and annoying this time around.

keg in kc
01-22-2010, 07:26 PM
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Buck
01-22-2010, 08:06 PM
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/7XCcMwJNT08&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7XCcMwJNT08&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

What was the new footage there?

Spoiler tags please?

Guru
01-23-2010, 06:05 AM
What was the new footage there?

Spoiler tags please?Yeah, I don't see it either.

keg in kc
01-23-2010, 08:27 PM
The new footage is a single frame showing Claire with a rifle.

http://scifiwire.com/2010/01/the-first-frame-of-new-fo.php

BigMeatballDave
01-26-2010, 07:03 PM
ONE WEEK PEOPLE! WOO HOO!

Red Brooklyn
01-27-2010, 12:57 PM
Bring it, LOST!

PhillyChiefFan
01-28-2010, 11:49 AM
i just watched season 1-5, in a matter of a month, I just couldnt stop watching. Cant wait til season 6

I did the same thing.

Once I saw that it was on Netflix I was hooked. Watched all 5 seasons in like a month.

Buck
01-28-2010, 11:57 AM
Damn, 5 seasons in a month is pretty fuckin hardcore.

5 DAYS LEFT!!!!

w00t!

keg in kc
01-29-2010, 02:04 PM
First 4.5 minutes of season 6. Watch at your own risk.

<embed src='http://spoilerfiles.com/spoilertv/flvplayerv4.swf' height='360' width='480' allowscriptaccess='always' allowfullscreen='true' flashvars='level=0&dock=false%E2%84%91%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fspoilerfiles.com%2Fspoilertv%2Fdarkufovideostill.jpg&stretching=exactfit&bandwidth=812&file=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.ak.facebook.com%2Fvideo-ak-sf2p%2Fv6812%2F92%2F80%2F1200800152550_48246.mp4&plugins=viral'/>

Red Brooklyn
01-29-2010, 02:05 PM
ooops! keg beat me too it.

Baby Lee
01-29-2010, 02:22 PM
First 4.5 minutes of season 6. Watch at your own risk.



Don't you mean

the last two minutes of last season, the first two minutes of the first season, and a twist the world saw coming from miles away at the end?

;)

Buck
01-29-2010, 02:44 PM
I'M DANE MCCLOUD. I KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS.

LOLZ

Mr. Arrowhead
01-29-2010, 03:14 PM
I did the same thing.

Once I saw that it was on Netflix I was hooked. Watched all 5 seasons in like a month.

yup that how i saw it, the instant viewing for netflix on 360 and PS3 is kick ass.

Guru
01-29-2010, 07:52 PM
First 4.5 minutes of season 6. Watch at your own risk.

<embed src="http://spoilerfiles.com/spoilertv/flvplayerv4.swf" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="level=0&dock=false%E2%84%91%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fspoilerfiles.com%2Fspoilertv%2Fdarkufovideostill.jpg&stretching=exactfit&bandwidth=812&file=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.ak.facebook.com%2Fvideo-ak-sf2p%2Fv6812%2F92%2F80%2F1200800152550_48246.mp4&plugins=viral" width="480" height="360">Well that was interesting.
\
go back and watch season one episode one right after the first commercial break and compare the material

WildTurkey
01-29-2010, 09:08 PM
yup that how i saw it, the instant viewing for netflix on 360 and PS3 is kick ass.

I did this as well just finished season 5 last tuesday.... show is addictive as hell

DaneMcCloud
01-29-2010, 09:28 PM
I did this as well just finished season 5 last tuesday.... show is addictive as hell

For me, it's the best show in the history of television and that's including shows like The Sopranos, Star Trek, X-Files, M*A*S*H, 24, etc.

I think it's that's good.

Guru
01-29-2010, 09:41 PM
For me, it's the best show in the history of television and that's including shows like The Sopranos, Star Trek, X-Files, M*A*S*H, 24, etc.

I think it's that's good.that's?

friggin n00b.:evil:

WildTurkey
01-29-2010, 09:41 PM
For me, it's the best show in the history of television and that's including shows like The Sopranos, Star Trek, X-Files, M*A*S*H, 24, etc.

I think it's that's good.

I would certainly put it right up there with those shows without a doubt

Guru
01-29-2010, 09:42 PM
I would certainly put it right up there with those shows without a doubtI would still put it behind X-Files just because it annoyed the crap out of me in season 3 and 4.

WildTurkey
01-29-2010, 09:45 PM
(Spoiler)Interesting Side by Side comparison between the season 1 pilot and the new footage


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoaRzEMpya0

DaneMcCloud
01-29-2010, 09:59 PM
I would still put it behind X-Files just because it annoyed the crap out of me in season 3 and 4.

What about X-Files seasons 8 and 9? Those were incredibly difficult to watch, especially with no Mulder.

I LOVED the X-Files but for the most part, it was hit and miss after the movie.

The first movie was bad.

The second movie was an abomination.

Buck
01-29-2010, 10:04 PM
Wild Turkey put your post in spoiler tags man, fuck.

WildTurkey
01-29-2010, 10:15 PM
Wild Turkey put your post in spoiler tags man, ****.

shit man my bad I was a total cockbag on that one :doh!:

Guru
01-29-2010, 10:45 PM
What about X-Files seasons 8 and 9? Those were incredibly difficult to watch, especially with no Mulder.

I LOVED the X-Files but for the most part, it was hit and miss after the movie.

The first movie was bad.

The second movie was an abomination.I guess that was easier to forgive because it didn't screw up continuity for me. Had they done that in seasons 4 and 5 of X-Files I might feel differently. For the most part I still liked the last two seasons of X.

Ari Chi3fs
01-30-2010, 08:29 AM
So, I've read all of the spoilers... sounds like if they are mostly true that this season should be an interesting ride.

Buck
01-31-2010, 01:06 AM
Just got done watching every episode from "LaFleur" through "Follow the Leader" in one sit through. I'm fairly certain that's like 7 or 8 episodes. I'm about to watch "The Incident" and then any special features on the Bluray. Can't wait for Tuesday.

irishjayhawk
01-31-2010, 10:02 AM
All of episode 1 of season 6 was bootlegged from the ABC premiere.

Guru
01-31-2010, 10:59 AM
All of episode 1 of season 6 was bootlegged from the ABC premiere.linky

irishjayhawk
01-31-2010, 11:24 AM
linky

I don't have one. Saw this on twitter and it follow up comments about the shittiness of the bootleg.

I have no interest in watching it early. I'm not even watching the first 6 minutes video.

Buck
01-31-2010, 11:25 AM
Why would you watch that it's gonna be shitty quality.

Buck
02-01-2010, 10:50 AM
ONE MORE DAY!

Mr. Plow
02-01-2010, 10:52 AM
ONE MORE DAY!

I've got a boner.

Buck
02-01-2010, 10:55 AM
I've got a boner.

Likewise.

Mr. Plow
02-01-2010, 10:57 AM
Likewise.


Careful, you're liable to poke an eye out with that thing.

Buck
02-01-2010, 10:58 AM
Careful, you're liable to poke an eye out with that thing.

I've done it before, and I'll do it again.

My boner is the answer to Lost.

DaneMcCloud
02-01-2010, 11:14 AM
My boner is the answer to Lost.

That's one magic boner!

Chiefnj2
02-01-2010, 12:49 PM
linky

The vid is down, but there is a transcript floating around. I read it and realized I need some type of primer to remind me what the heck happened the last few years and who is where and in what year. I found the transcript a bit confusing. It looks like it starts with a lot more questions than answers.

Guru
02-01-2010, 02:58 PM
This thread just went grade school.

Mr. Plow
02-01-2010, 05:19 PM
This thread just went grade school.


Everyone....Guru toilet dunking at lunchtime.

Guru
02-02-2010, 03:29 AM
Everyone....Guru toilet dunking at lunchtime.Swirly? Damn you are old school.

Buck
02-02-2010, 08:10 AM
MAN! SO CLOSE!!!!

I'm so excited!

The boner is large in me.....wait, what? That didn't sound right.

Mr. Plow
02-02-2010, 08:19 AM
The boner is large in me.


Hmmm....that could be a good sig.

DMAC
02-02-2010, 08:35 AM
Hmmm....that could be a good sig.http://www.luxuryhousingtrends.com/darth-vader-star-wars-doormat.jpg

combiiiine......

tymania
02-02-2010, 09:54 AM
So my prediction is Locke, Sawyer or Jack will die(and not come back to life) before the series end... Whose it gonna be? im going to go with Sawyer

Mr. Plow
02-02-2010, 09:58 AM
Isn't Locke TECHNICALLY dead right now?

DMAC
02-02-2010, 10:04 AM
Isn't Locke TECHNICALLY dead right now?Paralized and dead (twice).

tymania
02-02-2010, 10:59 AM
Isn't Locke TECHNICALLY dead right now?

True he is TECHNICALLY dead. I cant remember, did they end up seeing his dead body in the casket on the island, but yet he was walking around alive?

Mr. Plow
02-02-2010, 11:00 AM
True he is TECHNICALLY dead. I cant remember, did they end up seeing his dead body in the casket on the island, but yet he was walking around alive?

Yes.

Buck
02-02-2010, 11:03 AM
True he is TECHNICALLY dead. I cant remember, did they end up seeing his dead body in the casket on the island, but yet he was walking around alive?

They pretty much implied that the walking Locke was the Man In Black or the Smoke Monster pretending to be him.

The real Locke is dead.

He's not alive because, Dead is Dead.

Mr. Plow
02-02-2010, 11:04 AM
Hmmm....that could be a good sig.

We're gonna give this a try for a few days. I generally hate sigs, but this one is worth a shot.

Buck
02-02-2010, 11:13 AM
We're gonna give this a try for a few days. I generally hate sigs, but this one is worth a shot.

If you play your cards right, the boner could be large in you too ;)

Mr. Plow
02-02-2010, 11:20 AM
If you play your cards right, the boner could be large in you too ;)

And we have an addition to the sig.

tymania
02-02-2010, 11:25 AM
And we have an addition to the sig.

ROFL:clap: thats good stuff

Mr. Plow
02-02-2010, 06:00 PM
Man, some nights I wish my kids would go to bed at 6:45pm and stay asleep until 10am.

KCFalcon59
02-02-2010, 09:15 PM
Great start!!

mikeyis4dcats.
02-02-2010, 09:35 PM
I may be in the minority, but I thought this was the worst episode of the series. Terrible cgi, a bit of a mess in plot and some real stretches (even for LOST)

Guru
02-02-2010, 09:57 PM
They went out of their way to be bizarre on this one. I read some reviews that said this ep would actually create more questions rather than provide any answers. It definitely did that.

irishjayhawk
02-02-2010, 10:01 PM
I may be in the minority, but I thought this was the worst episode of the series. Terrible cgi, a bit of a mess in plot and some real stretches (even for LOST)

CGI has always been terrible.

Plot was actually pretty tight for LOST standards. What stretches?


By the way, I'm firmly on the Jacob is now Sayid bandwagon.

Guru
02-02-2010, 10:02 PM
CGI has always been terrible.

Plot was actually pretty tight for LOST standards. What stretches?


By the way, I'm firmly on the Jacob is now Sayid bandwagon.I agree. You might want to spoiler tag that just in case though.

arrowheadnation
02-02-2010, 10:04 PM
1. Sayid the new Jacob? Dead is dead...right?
2. Flocke, Esau, the black smoke, whatever....on his way to take the temple back?
3. Claire wasn't on the plane....but she was in the cab....looking disheveled (or older) and nothing like she looked in the season 1 premier.
4. Flocke going to threaten to kill Richard unless the others give the temple back.
5. So all 5 seasons have basically been the story of the Black Smoke trying to get its temple back.
6. Flocke was glad to see Richard out of his chains. A slave on the Black Rock? Or figuratively being chained to Jacob as his servant all these years?
7. Didn't you all notice how everything in the alternate reality was totally opposite? Hurley embracing his luck (he hated it in the original story), Sawyer always in a chipper mood (he was a prick in the original), Jack being the nervous one instead of Rose.

Guru
02-02-2010, 11:44 PM
1. Sayid the new Jacob? Dead is dead...right?
2. Flocke, Esau, the black smoke, whatever....on his way to take the temple back?
3. Claire wasn't on the plane....but she was in the cab....looking disheveled (or older) and nothing like she looked in the season 1 premier.
4. Flocke going to threaten to kill Richard unless the others give the temple back.
5. So all 5 seasons have basically been the story of the Black Smoke trying to get its temple back.
6. Flocke was glad to see Richard out of his chains. A slave on the Black Rock? Or figuratively being chained to Jacob as his servant all these years?
7. Didn't you all notice how everything in the alternate reality was totally opposite? Hurley embracing his luck (he hated it in the original story), Sawyer always in a chipper mood (he was a prick in the original), Jack being the nervous one instead of Rose. Claire was on the plane, they just never showed it. A lot of time had passed by the time the taxi came into play.

The one thing I couldn't pick up on with her was whether or not she was pregnant in this timeline. Considering everything is "the opposite" in this timeline, I am betting she isn't pregnant.

WildTurkey
02-02-2010, 11:55 PM
CGI has always been terrible.

Plot was actually pretty tight for LOST standards. What stretches?


By the way, I'm firmly on the Jacob is now Sayid bandwagon.

I was thinking the same thing... glad I'm not the only one

Buck
02-03-2010, 12:42 AM
Ok here we go.

Jacob is now in Sayid.

For some reason that I have yet to determine, Jacob knew he had to die. That's why he let Ben kill him by acting like he didn't know who he was. He also knew that Sayid was going to die that's why he had him taken to the temple. The note to the Japanese dude supposedly said that Sayid needed to live but that was only so the Temple people wouldn't kill the Losties.

The water wasn't clear and it couldn't heal because Jacob was dead. So Jacob got the Losties safely to the temple and got his new body by tricking the Japanese dude. Obviously the Japanese guy doesn't know everything because he didn't know that Jacob was dead when the water wasn't clear.

Also that's why in the note it said that Sayid was extremely important.

Following up on the Jacob not knowing Ben thing, it's become clear that Jacob knows everything that happens on the island because he knew about Jin and the Frenchies at the temple walls.

Buck
02-03-2010, 01:07 AM
Claire was on the plane, they just never showed it. A lot of time had passed by the time the taxi came into play.

The one thing I couldn't pick up on with her was whether or not she was pregnant in this timeline. Considering everything is "the opposite" in this timeline, I am betting she isn't pregnant.

The time reset was in 1977 so anything could have changed since then, so Claire may not have been on that plane, and she may not have ever been pregnant, etc.

Guru
02-03-2010, 01:12 AM
The time reset was in 1977 so anything could have changed since then, so Claire may not have been on that plane, and she may not have ever been pregnant, etc.I have confirmed that she is, in fact, pregnant.

Buck
02-03-2010, 01:21 AM
I have confirmed that she is, in fact, pregnant.

God damnit, I know you used a spoiler tag, but I shouldn't have read that. oh well not that big.

PS, I wont be clicking on your spoiler tags anymore.

Guru
02-03-2010, 01:24 AM
God damnit, I know you used a spoiler tag, but I shouldn't have read that. oh well not that big.

PS, I wont be clicking on your spoiler tags anymore.LMAO

You were warned.

Buck
02-03-2010, 01:25 AM
Can I make a request that no spoiler info from any future episodes makes its way into this thread, spoiler tags or not?

I thought you were using the spoiler tag for the benefit of people who didnt watch tonights episode yet.

I dont think spoilers for future episodes have any place in this thread.

Guru
02-03-2010, 01:30 AM
Can I make a request that no spoiler info from any future episodes makes its way into this thread, spoiler tags or not?

I thought you were using the spoiler tag for the benefit of people who didnt watch tonights episode yet.

I dont think spoilers for future episodes have any place in this thread.Well, personally, I didn't think that particular bit of info was that big of a deal. I won't post anything more regarding a future ep. Hell, I wasn't even looking for it. Just stumbled on a preview.

BigRedChief
02-03-2010, 06:46 AM
Its better if your not caught up to avoid the thread. How can we discuss current story lines and all have them in spoiler tags?

Get caught up and then come post

I agree with future/inside/speculative info being in spoiler tags.

BigRedChief
02-03-2010, 06:48 AM
Ok here we go.

Jacob is now in Sayid.

I think thats pretty obvious. Much like Locke, they just get new bodies.

KCFalcon59
02-03-2010, 07:14 AM
Its better if your not caught up to avoid the thread. How can we discuss current story lines and all have them in spoiler tags?

Get caught up and then come post

I agree with future/inside/speculative info being in spoiler tags.

It's what I do. If I haven't watched the show, I am sure as hell not coming into this thread until I do.

Chiefnj2
02-03-2010, 07:44 AM
Whose body did the smoke monster inhabit before Locke?
Is it current time on the island?

tymania
02-03-2010, 07:44 AM
Ok here we go.

Jacob is now in Sayid.




Well people, here is some simple evidence that the first episode gave us to debunk any of these theories. Flocke/smoke monster was NOT taking over Locke's body, he was using the image of it (Locke's body is currently laying on the beach ). This can be applied to ANY situation. Alex's body was dead on the Island, but her IMAGE was reproduced by the smoke monster to scare Ben. When Mr. Eko saw Yemi on the Island, it was his IMAGE...not actually him since his body was in the plane.

Applying this precedent to the current situation, we have seen Sayid's body laying by this mystical pool of water the whole time. When or IF Sayid wakes up, that is SAYID waking up since it is HIS body, NOT someone possessing his body..

KingPriest2
02-03-2010, 07:55 AM
Can I make a request that no spoiler info from any future episodes makes its way into this thread, spoiler tags or not?

I thought you were using the spoiler tag for the benefit of people who didnt watch tonights episode yet.

I dont think spoilers for future episodes have any place in this thread.

No Thruout the history of this thread we have always done that Sorry not changing it

Mr. Plow
02-03-2010, 07:59 AM
It's what I do. If I haven't watched the show, I am sure as hell not coming into this thread until I do.

Exactly. I sometimes don't watch an episode for 2-3 days just because of my kids and I won't come in here until after I've watched it.

Great episode last night. It only took me 30 minutes of the episode to say "Ok, I'm lost already". The two "realities" threw me off at first. I thought it was more of a "dream" type deal until dead Juliet said "It worked" - then I realized that it was two separate realities, although I'm not quite sure how it all works.

One other odd thing from the beginning was Desmond - why was he on the plane? Since everything changed, he was never on the island to push the button, but why was he going to LA?

The Rick
02-03-2010, 07:59 AM
Just a quick thought...I know that Locke at one point came face-to-face with the smoke monster. Didn't Sayid come face-to-face with it also in the past? Weren't they the only two who came face-to-face with it and lived?

DMAC
02-03-2010, 08:01 AM
Well people, here is some simple evidence that the first episode gave us to debunk any of these theories. Flocke/smoke monster was NOT taking over Locke's body, he was using the image of it (Locke's body is currently laying on the beach ). This can be applied to ANY situation. Alex's body was dead on the Island, but her IMAGE was reproduced by the smoke monster to scare Ben. When Mr. Eko saw Yemi on the Island, it was his IMAGE...not actually him since his body was in the plane.

Applying this precedent to the current situation, we have seen Sayid's body laying by this mystical pool of water the whole time. When or IF Sayid wakes up, that is SAYID waking up since it is HIS body, NOT someone possessing his body..That's when the smoke monster does it. They are saying Jacob took over Sayid.

mikeyis4dcats.
02-03-2010, 08:08 AM
I thought the same thing as your spoiler the second Jacob told Hurley what to do.

The stretches for me? Julia being alive at the bottom of the hole miracuoulsy unhurt by all the debris, let alone surviving that fall to begin with. Jack trying to give CPR to Sayid, despite having said there was nothing he could do to savie him with the gunshot injury. The lack of traffic at the LAX restroom, and the security not setting up a perimeter first. Just poor writing.

Love this show, but this episode just felt silly at times.

KingPriest2
02-03-2010, 08:08 AM
Jacob is not Sayid. Jacob did forsee his death. This is why he visited everyone before the crash. He had to die.

The not had the numbers with their names to a corresponding number. This is the REAL reason why they had to get back to the island to save it from the Black guy. This is also why it was important for Sayid to live to make sure what Jacob needed was to work.

Also remember the black dust they put around themselves? The house had the same dust around it So what is with that?

DMAC
02-03-2010, 08:09 AM
I thought the same thing as your spoiler the second Jacob told Hurley what to do.

The stretches for me? Julia being alive at the bottom of the hole miracuoulsy unhurt by all the debris, let alone surviving that fall to begin with. Jack trying to give CPR to Sayid, despite having said there was nothing he could do to savie him with the gunshot injury. The lack of traffic at the LAX restroom, and the security not setting up a perimeter first. Just poor writing.

Love this show, but this episode just felt silly at times.Wow...I think you watch too much TV.

mikeyis4dcats.
02-03-2010, 08:12 AM
CGI has always been terrible.

Plot was actually pretty tight for LOST standards. What stretches?


By the way, I'm firmly on the Jacob is now Sayid bandwagon.

oh, and yes, the CGI has never been Hollywood standards, but that sequence with the ocean was like something out of a Sci-Fi original.

KingPriest2
02-03-2010, 08:12 AM
I thought the same thing as your spoiler the second Jacob told Hurley what to do.

The stretches for me? Julia being alive at the bottom of the hole miracuoulsy unhurt by all the debris, let alone surviving that fall to begin with. Jack trying to give CPR to Sayid, despite having said there was nothing he could do to savie him with the gunshot injury. The lack of traffic at the LAX restroom, and the security not setting up a perimeter first. Just poor writing.

Love this show, but this episode just felt silly at times.

UNhurt? She died. Jack felt bad that he had to do something He wasn't giving up on him so of course he would do that.

mikeyis4dcats.
02-03-2010, 08:13 AM
Wow...I think you watch too much TV.

no, I think I just have come to expect better from Lost. I watched the show with several people, and all of us were excited by the new proposects, but felt the episode was lacking. One person even commented they hoped this wasn't where Lost jumped the shark.

mikeyis4dcats.
02-03-2010, 08:15 AM
UNhurt? She died. Jack felt bad that he had to do something He wasn't giving up on him so of course he would do that.

she was injured from her original fall, but miracuouly untouched by all the metal, aside from one beam on her leg that Sawyer rolled off.

PhillyChiefFan
02-03-2010, 08:15 AM
I thought the same thing as your spoiler the second Jacob told Hurley what to do.

The stretches for me? Julia being alive at the bottom of the hole miracuoulsy unhurt by all the debris, let alone surviving that fall to begin with. Jack trying to give CPR to Sayid, despite having said there was nothing he could do to savie him with the gunshot injury. The lack of traffic at the LAX restroom, and the security not setting up a perimeter first. Just poor writing.

Love this show, but this episode just felt silly at times.

I think Jack was giving Sayid CPR because he "never gives up".

Juliet might have not died because she HAD to strike the nuke and was the only one who could do it.

John Locke was shot through the chest by Ben at one point and got up and walked off. It's not too difficult for me to believe that Juliette could have survived that fall (only on the island, of course not in the real world).

KingPriest2
02-03-2010, 08:17 AM
she was injured from her original fall, but miracuouly untouched by all the metal, aside from one beam on her leg that Sawyer rolled off.

It was different I can't explain it But she did die from her injuries.

DMAC
02-03-2010, 08:17 AM
no, I think I just have come to expect better from Lost. I watched the show with several people, and all of us were excited by the new proposects, but felt the episode was lacking. One person even commented they hoped this wasn't where Lost jumped the shark.I liked it.

I watched it, I didnt analyze it.

Chiefnj2
02-03-2010, 08:22 AM
I wonder why the lives of some on the plane changed where others did not. Jack was still going to Australia to get his dad. Kate was still a fugitive. Charlie was still a drug addict and Locke without his legs. But, Sawyer seemed a lot happier than his old self, Hurley's life was filled with 'luck' and Rose had a lot more confidence.

Red Brooklyn
02-03-2010, 08:33 AM
she was injured from her original fall, but miracuouly untouched by all the metal, aside from one beam on her leg that Sawyer rolled off.
Thoughout the history of the show we've seen the island prevent people from dying until they have no more work to do. We saw this with Jack, Locke, and Michael specifically. I'm not saying that the island kept her alive for sure, but I don't think it's a stretch to draw that conclusion. It's not poor writing in my mind. It's consistant with the other "miraculous" things we've seen on the show. The island kept her alive. That explanation works fine for me.

In regards to Jacob being Sayid... I had the same impression as many of you. I thought they were implying that Jacob was now in Sayid.

Did any of you watch Jimmy Kimmel after LOST? Damon and Carlton were on and Jimmy asked them point blank if Jacob was possessing Sayid now. They're answer was interesting to say the least...

mikeyis4dcats.
02-03-2010, 08:42 AM
Thoughout the history of the show we've seen the island prevent people from dying until they have no more work to do. We saw this with Jack, Locke, and Michael specifically. I'm not saying that the island kept her alive for sure, but I don't think it's a stretch to draw that conclusion. It's not poor writing in my mind. It's consistant with the other "miraculous" things we've seen on the show. The island kept her alive. That explanation works fine for me.

In regards to Jacob being Sayid... I had the same impression as many of you. I thought they were implying that Jacob was now in Sayid.

Did any of you watch Jimmy Kimmel after LOST? Damon and Carlton were on and Jimmy asked them point blank if Jacob was possessing Sayid now. They're answer was interesting to say the least...

I suppose that's probably true.

The only thing I can't figure out is if Jacob is now in Sayid, does Jacob possess people whereas the Man In Black only takes their image? So MIB is basically a shapeshifter?

tymania
02-03-2010, 08:53 AM
so my friend brought up a point...
Do you guys remember the time we saw white smoke in one of the episodes? could that be Jacob in his true form? and the MIB is the black smoke? and they are both battling for control over the temple.. or the island for that matter

tymania
02-03-2010, 09:23 AM
One other odd thing from the beginning was Desmond - why was he on the plane? Since everything changed, he was never on the island to push the button, but why was he going to LA?

Did you notice that nobody else on the plane seemed to notice Desmond.. Almost like Jack was the only one that could see him? Desmond was there and then he was gone just like that..

Also on a side point... pretty sure i saw Carl(Alex's Boyfriend on the island) on the plane..

BigRedChief
02-03-2010, 09:30 AM
No Thruout the history of this thread we have always done that Sorry not changing itcorrect. current episodes cool. Future episodes = spoiler tags

Buck
02-03-2010, 09:33 AM
Can I ask a favor then. If you are going to put something in spoiler tags, can any reply or discussion about it also be in spoiler tags, even if what you say isn't a spoiler?

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Aside from Spoilers and Theories, what was your guys favorite scene from last night.

I cant decide between the MIB/Ben conversation in the Foot or the Jack/Locke conversation at the airport.

Chiefnj2
02-03-2010, 09:33 AM
so my friend brought up a point...
Do you guys remember the time we saw white smoke in one of the episodes? could that be Jacob in his true form? and the MIB is the black smoke? and they are both battling for control over the temple.. or the island for that matter

At one time didn't they say that smokey was a security system for the temple?

Mr. Plow
02-03-2010, 09:37 AM
Did you notice that nobody else on the plane seemed to notice Desmond.. Almost like Jack was the only one that could see him? Desmond was there and then he was gone just like that..

I hadn't thought about it, but you're right. Jack had the feeling that he knew Desmond from somewhere - but they had never met because all the island stuff didn't happen. Sat there and when he came back from helping Charlie, he was gone and Rose never saw him and nobody else talked with him.

Mr. Plow
02-03-2010, 09:38 AM
At one time didn't they say that smokey was a security system for the temple?

I think that is right. I think they thought it was a security system for the island/temple, but obviously it isn't.

tymania
02-03-2010, 09:45 AM
At one time didn't they say that smokey was a security system for the temple?

didnt Ben say that though? Obviously Ben is a tool, and probably everything he said in the past about what he knows about the island was a manipulation and not true..

tymania
02-03-2010, 09:51 AM
I hadn't thought about it, but you're right. Jack had the feeling that he knew Desmond from somewhere - but they had never met because all the island stuff didn't happen. Sat there and when he came back from helping Charlie, he was gone and Rose never saw him and nobody else talked with him.

Remember when Desmond ran into Jack at the stadium when they were both running stairs? that happened before flight 815? and desmond was training for a trip around the world on a sailboat... so maybe that is where jack thought he knew him from? or maybe that never happened in the alternate reality?!

Mr. Plow
02-03-2010, 10:07 AM
or maybe that never happened in the alternate reality?!

I'm thinking it didn't happen because everything changed.....but I could just as easily be wrong.

Chiefnj2
02-03-2010, 10:14 AM
I'm thinking it didn't happen because everything changed.....but I could just as easily be wrong.

If the bomb exploded, Widmore was on the island and would have died. There would be no Penny and then no reason for Desmond to meet Penny and be in the US and bump into Jack on the steps of the stadium.

Buck
02-03-2010, 10:15 AM
Hey, you dicks. Answer my question.

What was your guys favorite scene from last night?

I cant decide between the MIB/Ben conversation in the Foot or the Jack/Locke conversation at the airport.

Mr. Plow
02-03-2010, 10:18 AM
Hey, you dicks. Answer my question.

No.

tymania
02-03-2010, 10:19 AM
Hey, you dicks. Answer my question.

What was your guys favorite scene from last night?

I cant decide between the MIB/Ben conversation in the Foot or the Jack/Locke conversation at the airport.

sorry i didnt see it.. My favorite scene was when the smoke monster destroyed all those guys inside the foot... answered a couple of questions that have been lingering over the years..

rad
02-03-2010, 10:29 AM
Can I ask a favor then. If you are going to put something in spoiler tags, can any reply or discussion about it also be in spoiler tags, even if what you say isn't a spoiler?

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Aside from Spoilers and Theories, what was your guys favorite scene from last night.

I cant decide between the MIB/Ben conversation in the Foot or the Jack/Locke conversation at the airport.

You're too high maintenance :D

Red Brooklyn
02-03-2010, 10:40 AM
I suppose that's probably true.

The only thing I can't figure out is if Jacob is now in Sayid, does Jacob possess people whereas the Man In Black only takes their image? So MIB is basically a shapeshifter?
My original theory was that both MIB and Jacob were Smokeys in their natural form.

However, now I'm doubting that theory. I think Smokey/MIB is a shapeshifter, yes. He takes the forms of others but does not "possess" them or inhabit their bodies.

If Jacob is in Sayid, and I'm not 100% sure that is (though, I think it would be pretty cool), then it would be different from what Smokey does. This would be a possession. Jacob using Sayid's body, not manifesting a likeness of Sayid.

EDIT: Also! Remeber that we've seen 2 version of Christian walking the island. One is wearing the same suit and sneakers that he was buried in, and one is dressed very differently. Maybe the differently dressed Christian was a shapeshifting Smokey and the Christian in coffin clothes was Jacob??

So, yes, it's different. If that's what's going on. This could all be something totally different. However, I do think (at this point) that something is possessing Sayid. I don't think he died and was resurrected.

Mr. Plow
02-03-2010, 10:44 AM
Dead is Dead....right?

Red Brooklyn
02-03-2010, 10:47 AM
At one time didn't they say that smokey was a security system for the temple?
It has been mentioned a couple of times by different people that Smokey is a "security system." I don't recall anyone ever specifying that he's a security systemf or the Temple, though. Just a SS for the island. But you could be right, and I'm just not remembering that scene.

If the bomb exploded, Widmore was on the island and would have died. There would be no Penny and then no reason for Desmond to meet Penny and be in the US and bump into Jack on the steps of the stadium.
Part of the reason Widmore was removed from the island was because he had a family with someone off the island. It all depends on when Widmore started his family, and when Penny was born. And I don't know that info off the top of my head. How old is Penny? If she was born in 1977,she'd be 30 in the current timeline... which could be abour right... so...

But, yeah, you're right. It's very possible Penny hasn't been concieved in the alt timeline. Good call.

so my friend brought up a point...
Do you guys remember the time we saw white smoke in one of the episodes? could that be Jacob in his true form? and the MIB is the black smoke? and they are both battling for control over the temple.. or the island for that matter
I don't recall seeing white smoke... I know when Locke saw what we are lead to believe is Smokey... he said "I've looked into the eye of this island, and what I saw was beautiful."

As the show progressed I thought that maybe there were 2 "smoke monsters." After the S5 finale I thought maybe Jacob and MIB were both Smokeys in their natural states... but now I'm not so sure... it's still a possibility and something to keep in mind as the show progresses. I'm excited to see what's going to happen!

Red Brooklyn
02-03-2010, 10:50 AM
Yes. Dead is Dead.... :)

Until they prove otherwise.

Chiefnj2
02-03-2010, 10:52 AM
Whenever Hurley saw "dead" people on the island was it Jacob all along?

tymania
02-03-2010, 10:54 AM
I may be mistaken, but isnt the Smoke monster like black black in some scenes.. and like a medium to a light gray in other scenes??? so maybe there is two smoke monsters?!

tymania
02-03-2010, 10:55 AM
Whenever Hurley saw "dead" people on the island was it Jacob all along?

possibly.. what dead people did he see on the island? i know he saw some in the phsyc ward..

Baby Lee
02-03-2010, 11:30 AM
I hadn't thought about it, but you're right. Jack had the feeling that he knew Desmond from somewhere - but they had never met because all the island stuff didn't happen. Sat there and when he came back from helping Charlie, he was gone and Rose never saw him and nobody else talked with him.

They may still have met at the track, when Jack was running the stadium steps, recall 'see ya in another life brutha.'

Baby Lee
02-03-2010, 11:40 AM
To assuage Buck, the best moments of last night for me were the AWESOME facial expressions of menace concocted by NotLocke. That was some stellar craft by O'Quinn.

The Rick
02-03-2010, 11:46 AM
Just a quick thought...I know that Locke at one point came face-to-face with the smoke monster. Didn't Sayid come face-to-face with it also in the past? Weren't they the only two who came face-to-face with it and lived?
Bump. Seriously, didn't Sayid confront the smoke monster at one point?

Buck
02-03-2010, 11:54 AM
Bump. Seriously, didn't Sayid confront the smoke monster at one point?

I don't believe he ever did. I remember he heard whispers in the forest once.

Buck
02-03-2010, 11:55 AM
Also Eko faced it head on once and lived. Of course he died the next time he tried.

tymania
02-03-2010, 12:03 PM
another thing i didnt catch but is not really that important..

When Kate came out of the airplane bathroom she bumped into Jack. she lifted his pen (he couln't find it when he tried to save Charlie). She later used the pen or tried to use it to unlock the handcuffs.

Mr. Plow
02-03-2010, 12:06 PM
another thing i didnt catch but is not really that important..

When Kate came out of the airplane bathroom she bumped into Jack. she lifted his pen (he couln't find it when he tried to save Charlie). She later used the pen or tried to use it to unlock the handcuffs.


Thinking of the pen - in the pilot episode, Rose (I believe) was dying and the guy talking to Locke on the airplane asked Jack "Should we do the pen thing?" Meaning, put a pen in her throat so she could get oxygen. Jack said "Oh yeah...the pen thing. Go find me a pen." He ran off and later came back with like 6 pens. Now, in this episode, he couldn't find a pen.


One other thing I thought was odd...after saving Charlie, Charlie responds "I was supposed to die."

tymania
02-03-2010, 12:15 PM
One other thing I thought was odd...after saving Charlie, Charlie responds "I was supposed to die."

I thought the same thing.. and who tries to kill themselves by choking on a bag of heron?

Bearcat
02-03-2010, 12:18 PM
Last night's episode is already on Hulu.... minus 40 minutes of commercials PBJ

Mr. Plow
02-03-2010, 12:18 PM
I thought the same thing.. and who tries to kill themselves by choking on a bag of heron?

It's all the rage nowadays.

tymania
02-03-2010, 12:32 PM
It's all the rage nowadays.

haha i guess so! Regarding Charlie saying I was supposed to die.. i think it all goes back to the theory, that what happened on the island is still going to happen to them, just in a different context and setting..

Red Brooklyn
02-03-2010, 01:00 PM
Just saw an interesting theory on another board that Sayid is now possessed by John Locke. The original John Locke. Seems odd, but I thought it was interesting.

This person sited John's conversation w/ Jack (in the alt timeline) about Christian's body being lost but not his spirit as evidence of his theory.

Sort of like Locke's body is dead, but his spirit lives on and is somehow able to inhabit Sayid because of the Temple and/or the healing water... I don't know... just thought I'd mention it.

mikeyis4dcats.
02-03-2010, 02:29 PM
I thought the same thing.. and who tries to kill themselves by choking on a bag of heron?

those are the sorts of plot issues I have. Unless there is an underlying symbolism I don't see, that's terrible writing.

Buck
02-03-2010, 02:45 PM
those are the sorts of plot issues I have. Unless there is an underlying symbolism I don't see, that's terrible writing.

He was probably trying to Overdose on the stuff and it got caught in his throat.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2010, 02:56 PM
He was probably trying to Overdose on the stuff and it got caught in his throat.

Hmm. I like he was just trying to make it through customs. That's how "Drug Mules" transport their items. They swallow them, then poop them out.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2010, 03:00 PM
At this point in time, I'm not altogether unconvinced that the Losties on the plane flying towards Los Angeles don't have memories of what happened on the Island.

It's confusing.

keg in kc
02-03-2010, 03:01 PM
I thought it was pretty 'meh'. Weren't really any 'oh shit!' moments or anything that make me count the minutes until next Tuesday. It was just kind of there.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2010, 03:02 PM
those are the sorts of plot issues I have. Unless there is an underlying symbolism I don't see, that's terrible writing.

I don't think he was trying to kill himself and as I recently stated, I'm not convinced that the Losties don't have full memory of what happened on the Island.

There are clearly two different timelines happening right now and at some point, they'll converge.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2010, 03:03 PM
I thought it was pretty 'meh'. Weren't really any 'oh shit!' moments or anything that make me count the minutes until next Tuesday. It was just kind of there.

It just seems to me to be a continuation of last season.

And I certainly wasn't surprised about the "Smoke Monster" reveal.

However, the "All I want to do is go home" line is very interesting.

keg in kc
02-03-2010, 03:04 PM
I don't think he was trying to kill himself and as I recently stated, I'm not convinced that the Losties don't have full memory of what happened on the Island.I didn't see any behavior from anybody that would indicate that they do. To my eye, it looked like they were all behaving like they'd never met, and the day was playing out like it would have had they never crashed.

How that fits into the alternate timeline, I have no idea. My guess is that they'll hit another reset button of some kind on the island.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2010, 03:06 PM
I didn't see any behavior from anybody that would indicate that they do. To my eye, it looked like they were all behaving like they'd never met, and the day was playing out like it would have had they never crashed.

How that fits into the alternate timeline, I have no idea. My guess is that they'll hit another reset button of some kind on the island.

You may be right. It's just that I got the feeling they were all hiding something.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

keg in kc
02-03-2010, 03:10 PM
You may be right. It's just that I got the feeling they were all hiding something.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it.Well, keep in mind that most of them were hiding things when they were on the flight, before they even got to the island.

But Sawyer and Kate were strangers. John and Jack were strangers. I don't think anybody recognized anybody, and I don't remember any teasing of deja vu except for Jack and Desmond (who's a wildcard; why is he even on the plane?).

It would basically be season 4 all over again if they did remember, so I hope they're not going that direction, where they all have this feeling like they're in the wrong place and it's all about getting back...

mikeyis4dcats.
02-03-2010, 03:17 PM
At this point in time, I'm not altogether unconvinced that the Losties on the plane flying towards Los Angeles don't have memories of what happened on the Island.

It's confusing.

I totally thought Jack was trying to figure out where he knew Rose from at the beginning.

Huffmeister
02-03-2010, 03:29 PM
Assuming "dead is dead"... does that mean that the guy with the eye patch (can't remember his name) was really the Man in Black? He died a few times, and definitely had an 'evil' vibe. Not sure what the implications are, other than that would mean that the Man in Black had infiltrated the Others (who are supposed to be on Jacob's side).

Buck
02-03-2010, 03:33 PM
Mikhail, and that seems possible, but did he really actually die?

Huffmeister
02-03-2010, 03:34 PM
Mikhail, and that seems possible, but did he really actually die?
I'm pretty sure he took a spear through the chest in the underwater Hydra station.

Buck
02-03-2010, 03:39 PM
I'm pretty sure he took a spear through the chest in the underwater Hydra station.

Yeah, could have missed vital organs...but I am liking your theory now.

He took the spear and then simply vanished, which smokey already showed he could do in the Foot Statue.

The Rick
02-03-2010, 03:40 PM
Don't know if this has been posted or not, but there was some interesting stuff said on Kimmel last night...

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Red Brooklyn
02-03-2010, 03:49 PM
I'm not convinced that the Losties don't have full memory of what happened on the Island.
I know.... that's an interesting point. I felt like most of the characters didn't seem to key into any memories or whatever from the the other timeline. But then you have Jack sort of remembering Des. And Charlie sayin he was supposed to die. Obviously, we don't know exactly what any of that means yet... but I'm open to the idea that there is some residual memory happening. It's possible.

Guru
02-03-2010, 04:04 PM
Whenever Hurley saw "dead" people on the island was it Jacob all along?Wouldn't explain what he saw while in the hostpital.

Buck
02-03-2010, 04:17 PM
Wouldn't explain what he saw while in the hostpital.

Yeah I dont think that is the case.

I wonder if Dave is actually a dead guy though or just a made up imaginary friend.

Buck
02-03-2010, 04:40 PM
I wondered why the hell he kept looking at his feet.

OC's right... great writing.

I wonder how the hell they could have a second season though...

Wow, you actually said this once.

P.S. I'm going back and reading this thread from the beginning, which was about 2 years before I started posting here.

keg in kc
02-03-2010, 04:51 PM
But then you have Jack sort of remembering Des. And Charlie sayin he was supposed to die.Des isn't one of them. He didn't arrive to the island via the flight, which is what made his being on the plane odd.

Buck
02-03-2010, 05:12 PM
I don't like spoilers. Thats cool not to post them.

I'll second that. This is the first TV show I've enjoyed this much in a long time. I'd hate to have it ruined.

Oooh, this has been going on since 04. FUCK SPOILERS!

Mr. Plow
02-03-2010, 05:37 PM
Oooh, this has been going on since 04. FUCK SPOILERS!

Watch out, here comes the whaaaambulance. :)

Guru
02-03-2010, 06:14 PM
Watch out, here comes the whaaaambulance. :)I am tempted to go look one up and PM him with it. Or, better yet, post it on his facebook page. :evil:

Buck
02-03-2010, 06:19 PM
I am tempted to go look one up and PM him with it. Or, better yet, post it on his facebook page. :evil:

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you quit with the spoilers now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Guru
02-03-2010, 08:13 PM
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you quit with the spoilers now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.Good luck.

KingPriest2
02-03-2010, 08:48 PM
EW: The whole idea of flash-sideways and the plan to use season 6 to show us a world where Oceanic 815 never crashed — how long has that been in the works? Why did you want to do it?
DAMON LINDELOF: It’s been in play for at least a couple of years. We knew that the ending of the time travel season was going to be an attempt to reboot. And as a result, we [knew] the audience was going to come out of the “do-over moment” thinking we were either going start over or just say it didn’t work and continue on. [We thought] wouldn’t it be great if we did both? That was the origin of the story.
CARLTON CUSE: We thought just doing one [of those options] would inherently not be satisfying. Since the very beginning of the show, characters started crossing through each other’s stories. Part of our desire [in season 6] is to show that there’s still this kind of weave, that these characters still would have impacted each other’s lives even without the event of crashing on the Island. Obviously, the big question of the season is going to be: How do these [two timelines] reconcile? However, for the fans who have not watched the show closely, that’s an intact narrative. You can just watch the flash sideways — they stand alone all by themselves. For the fans who are more deeply embedded in the show, you can watch those flash sideways, compare them to what transpired in the flashbacks and go, “Oh, that’s an interesting difference.”
LINDELOF: Right out of the gate, in the first five minutes of the premiere, you get hit over the head with two things that you’re not expecting. The first is that Desmond is on the plane. The second thing that we do is we drop out of the plane and we go below the water and we see that the Island is submerged. What we’re trying to do there is basically say to you, “God bless the survivors of Oceanic 815, because they’re so self-centered, they thought the only effect [of detonating the bomb] was going to be that their plane never crashes.” But they don’t stop to think, “If we do this in 1977, what else is going to affected by this?” So that their entire lives can be changed radically. In fact, it would appear that they’ve sunken the Island. That’s our way of saying, “Keep your eyes peeled for the differences that you’re not expecting.” Some of these characters were still in Australia, but some weren’t. Shannon’s not there. Boone actually says that he tried to get her back. There are all sorts of other people that we don’t see. Where’s Libby? Where’s Ana Lucia? Where’s Eko? These are all the things that you’re supposed to be thinking about. When our characters posited the “What if?” scenario, they neglected to think about what the other effects of potentially changing time might be and we’re embracing those things.

Buck
02-03-2010, 08:56 PM
EW: The whole idea of flash-sideways and the plan to use season 6 to show us a world where Oceanic 815 never crashed — how long has that been in the works? Why did you want to do it?

DAMON LINDELOF: It’s been in play for at least a couple of years. We knew that the ending of the time travel season was going to be an attempt to reboot. And as a result, we [knew] the audience was going to come out of the “do-over moment” thinking we were either going start over or just say it didn’t work and continue on. [We thought] wouldn’t it be great if we did both? That was the origin of the story.

CARLTON CUSE: We thought just doing one [of those options] would inherently not be satisfying. Since the very beginning of the show, characters started crossing through each other’s stories. Part of our desire [in season 6] is to show that there’s still this kind of weave, that these characters still would have impacted each other’s lives even without the event of crashing on the Island. Obviously, the big question of the season is going to be: How do these [two timelines] reconcile? However, for the fans who have not watched the show closely, that’s an intact narrative. You can just watch the flash sideways — they stand alone all by themselves. For the fans who are more deeply embedded in the show, you can watch those flash sideways, compare them to what transpired in the flashbacks and go, “Oh, that’s an interesting difference.”

LINDELOF: Right out of the gate, in the first five minutes of the premiere, you get hit over the head with two things that you’re not expecting. The first is that Desmond is on the plane. The second thing that we do is we drop out of the plane and we go below the water and we see that the Island is submerged. What we’re trying to do there is basically say to you, “God bless the survivors of Oceanic 815, because they’re so self-centered, they thought the only effect [of detonating the bomb] was going to be that their plane never crashes.” But they don’t stop to think, “If we do this in 1977, what else is going to affected by this?” So that their entire lives can be changed radically. In fact, it would appear that they’ve sunken the Island. That’s our way of saying, “Keep your eyes peeled for the differences that you’re not expecting.” Some of these characters were still in Australia, but some weren’t. Shannon’s not there. Boone actually says that he tried to get her back. There are all sorts of other people that we don’t see. Where’s Libby? Where’s Ana Lucia? Where’s Eko? These are all the things that you’re supposed to be thinking about. When our characters posited the “What if?” scenario, they neglected to think about what the other effects of potentially changing time might be and we’re embracing those things.

Paragraphs. Use them.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2010, 10:33 PM
EThese are all the things that you’re supposed to be thinking about. When our characters posited the “What if?” scenario, they neglected to think about what the other effects of potentially changing time might be and we’re embracing those things.

Well, this just plain pisses me off. If THIS is how they're going to end the series, I'm going to be greatly disappointed.

I want ANSWERS. WHAT is the Island? Who IS Jacob? Who IS his nemesis? Why have they been playing this game for 300 years? Why are there ancient statues and temples on this island? How did the magnetic properties of the island come into play? How does it go undetected?

Who are "Adam & Eve"?

Yep, this is going to fucking piss me off if they head off an another tangent.

Buck
02-03-2010, 10:34 PM
I'm about to rewatch the episode.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2010, 10:34 PM
I'm about to rewatch the episode.

Thanks for the heads up.

:D

Buck
02-03-2010, 10:35 PM
Thanks for the heads up.

:D

I'll be posting my thoughts afterward, dick.

DaneMcCloud
02-03-2010, 10:41 PM
I'll be posting my thoughts afterward, dick.

LMAO

Buck
02-03-2010, 10:46 PM
I have to watch the episode now....peace.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/mattdayjr/serioussawyerrserious.jpg

Guru
02-03-2010, 10:50 PM
I'm about to rewatch the episode.Cool, maybe you can give us a play by play as well.

KingPriest2
02-03-2010, 11:46 PM
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you quit with the spoilers now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

This ones for you!


Hurley speaks to someone very close to Richard's past and conveys this person's message to Richard. Definite tearjerker on par with when we first meet Bernand and he finds out Rose is okay in season 2.

- Man in Black has a true nemesis - and it's not Jacob.

-"Happily Ever After" marks Desmond's full return - his centric episode as well. His "flash-sideways" feature Charlie, Daniel, Penny, Mommy, Jack, Widmore, and Claire. Widmore and Desmond share some of that famous scotch. Des has to make a very, very big sacrifice.

- "Everybody Loves Hugo" marks the return of Libby and Michael. Michael is a ghost on island and Libby and Hurley date in his "flash-sideways." Locke gets run over. Man can't catch a break, can he?

KingPriest2
02-03-2010, 11:49 PM
not sure this is spoilish

Widmore, Ben, Locke, Jacob, Man in Black... will we ever find out who the good guys really are on Lost? — Lin
MICKEY: We asked Josh Holloway, who portrays Sawyer, one ethically complicated dude, what he thinks. "I think the whole beauty of this show and the intrigue has been the constant question of what is good and what is bad and what is right or wrong," he says. "That is the entire crux of the show, so no, you're never going to get a clear picture. You're going to be left with that question to answer for yourself." Next you'll be telling me the numbers are just... numbers!

KingPriest2
02-03-2010, 11:52 PM
Jacob has a child and its someone we know

Guru
02-03-2010, 11:52 PM
ROFL

nice bluff by the way.

Or was it?:evil:

Buck
02-04-2010, 12:09 AM
I fell asleep with 20 min left. Have to watch the rest tomorrow.

Guru
02-04-2010, 12:19 AM
I fell asleep with 20 min left. Have to watch the rest tomorrow.Typing in your sleep again I see.

Mr. Plow
02-04-2010, 07:36 AM
Jacob has a child and its someone we know


This one wouldn't surprise me at all. There is too much of a connection between him and the Losties.

Red Brooklyn
02-04-2010, 08:18 AM
Well, this just plain pisses me off. If THIS is how they're going to end the series, I'm going to be greatly disappointed.

I want ANSWERS. WHAT is the Island? Who IS Jacob? Who IS his nemesis? Why have they been playing this game for 300 years? Why are there ancient statues and temples on this island? How did the magnetic properties of the island come into play? How does it go undetected?

Who are "Adam & Eve"?

Yep, this is going to ****ing piss me off if they head off an another tangent.
Have no fear, sir.

I believe there's more to that interview that wasn't posted. They go on to talk about there being some sort of pay-off to the alt timeline. I believe at some point they have to merge together again (hopefully, sooner rather than later) and you'll get your answers. You may not get every answer, and every answer may not satisfy you completely, but I'm confident you'll get them.

Of course... if we don't get them... I'm going to melt some faces.

Chiefnj2
02-04-2010, 08:29 AM
I'm not liking the alternate timeline. They changed the backstories of the characters without telling the viewers. They commented that at comicon there was a video where Kate doesn't kill her step dad but someone else and that is why she is a fugitive in the ALT timeline. If the characters lives are so different in the ALT than what we've been shown the last 5 years, it's difficult to care one way or the other about them.

Frazod
02-04-2010, 08:35 AM
I'm not digging the alternate time line either. The Locke's body possessed by an evil god thing is really cool, but this new crap is just an annoying distraction, IMO. While it was nice to see Charlie and Boone back, that was about all that really interested me.

Seems like they're trying to shove 20 pounds of shit into a 10 pound bag.

PhillyChiefFan
02-04-2010, 08:45 AM
Have no fear, sir.

I believe there's more to that interview that wasn't posted. They go on to talk about there being some sort of pay-off to the alt timeline. I believe at some point they have to merge together again (hopefully, sooner rather than later) and you'll get your answers. You may not get every answer, and every answer may not satisfy you completely, but I'm confident you'll get them.

Of course... if we don't get them... I'm going to melt some faces.

I just remember all the big build up for shows like Seinfeld, Dallas, The Sopranos, and to a much lesser extent Rosanne, and they were some extremely disappointed fans.

If this ends like one of those, I'll be pissed for spending so many hours in front of the TV or computer.

PhillyChiefFan
02-04-2010, 08:48 AM
I'm not digging the alternate time line either. The Locke's body possessed by an evil god thing is really cool, but this new crap is just an annoying distraction, IMO. While it was nice to see Charlie and Boone back, that was about all that really interested me.

Seems like they're trying to shove 20 pounds of shit into a 10 pound bag.

I don't like it either. The ONLY thing I like about it is that all the characters still interact in a some way, so it'll be interesting to see how that develops.

Boone/Locke
Jack/Charlie
Kate/Claire
Jack/Locke
Hurley/Sawyer etc etc.

Buck
02-04-2010, 08:55 AM
So I woke up right for the ending last night, and Sayid has some kind of weird accent when he wakes up and says "What happened?"

Chiefnj2
02-04-2010, 09:01 AM
How many times did we have to watch Juliet die? I felt like I was watching Groundhog Day.

Mr. Plow
02-04-2010, 09:02 AM
So I woke up right for the ending last night, and Sayid has some kind of weird accent when he wakes up and says "What happened?"

I watched it again yesterday with my son and I noticed that as well. Even said to my son "That doesn't sound like Sayid."

BigRedChief
02-04-2010, 09:12 AM
I don't like it either. The ONLY thing I like about it is that all the characters still interact in a some way, so it'll be interesting to see how that develops.

Boone/Locke
Jack/Charlie
Kate/Claire
Jack/Locke
Hurley/Sawyer etc etc.
yeah but to have some kind of new plot twist like this in the final season when major questions over the 6 years its been on are still not answered?

Frazod
02-04-2010, 09:40 AM
How many times did we have to watch Juliet die? I felt like I was watching Groundhog Day.

LMAO

Don't worry, she's probably still alive in at least 10 of the other 20 timelines we haven't seen yet.

tymania
02-04-2010, 10:04 AM
LMAO

Don't worry, she's probably still alive in at least 10 of the other 20 timelines we haven't seen yet.

ooh she'll be back.. Gotta keep the love sqaure goin with jack juliet sawyer and kate

Red Brooklyn
02-04-2010, 11:10 AM
I can't say how I feel about the alt timeline yet. I like the idea to a degree. I like seeing how they were "wrong." I like seeing the things that Jack didn't think about when he embarked on this mission. But it all depends on the pay-off. Where will it go? What will we learn? I won't know how I feel about it until we've seen the whole thing.

I am interested to see how they handle the "new" backstories. I wonder how much info we're going to get regarding their new histories.

A lot of people have commented on Sayid's voice.. I didn't notice... gotta go back and watch it again.

LOST is running a high risk of pissing off a lot of fans by the time it ends. I'm sure a lot of people will hate the ending. Just as long as it feels honest, like it's the only ending (or the best possible ending) the show could have. I'll be satisfied.

Buck
02-04-2010, 11:16 AM
Cmon Frazzy (and Brooklyn), don't you trust the writers enough by this point to know they won't leave a bad taste in your mouth?

Frazod
02-04-2010, 11:17 AM
Cmon Frazzy, don't you trust the writers enough by this point to know they won't leave a bad taste in your mouth?

Most of the second second left a bad taste in my mouth.

keg in kc
02-04-2010, 11:19 AM
I actually like the idea of an alternate reality where they never went to the island. What I'm worried about is that they'll reconcile the two realities in some trite way, with the push of a magic button.

Buck
02-04-2010, 11:21 AM
Most of the second second left a bad taste in my mouth.

Really? I generally hear that the 2nd season was the worst season, but I actually started watching Lost from the beginning of the 2nd season (didn't see the 1st til I finished season 2). It holds a special place in my heart I guess.

But come the fuck on.

Season 3 - Perhaps the greatest stretch run of episodes (near the end of the season), and the best Season Finale I've ever seen.
Season 4 - Every Episode was spectacular save one or two
Season 5 - See season 4 (except I think every episode was good)

Mr. Plow
02-04-2010, 11:22 AM
Maybe a stupid question....

Did they ever show - or are they planning to show - how the numbers from the earlier seasons are significant....or are they not significant?

Buck
02-04-2010, 11:24 AM
Maybe a stupid question....

Did they ever show - or are they planning to show - how the numbers from the earlier seasons are significant....or are they not significant?

On the Jimmy Kimmel show they asked the head producers/writers if the show was done with the #s and all they said is no, stay tuned.

Red Brooklyn
02-04-2010, 11:25 AM
Cmon Frazzy (and Brooklyn), don't you trust the writers enough by this point to know they won't leave a bad taste in your mouth?
I do trust them. That's why I'm willing to hold off judgement until the story arch is complete. I'm sure it'll be interesting, to say the least.

But TPTB have made a couple of missteps before (Niki & Paulo leap to mind!). They're not perfect. And, like keg said, I just hope however the two timelines reconcile isn't trite and easy.

I LOVE S2. It's one of my favorites.

Chiefnj2
02-04-2010, 12:02 PM
I also don't really like the new "others" in the temple. C'mon how many groups of people are we going to discover on the island? These new others are some great keepers of island knowledge - the bath, Jacob, etc., but they didn't notice the flash when the bomb went off, or know that Jack, et al blew the island up years before?

tymania
02-04-2010, 12:21 PM
I also don't really like the new "others" in the temple. C'mon how many groups of people are we going to discover on the island? These new others are some great keepers of island knowledge - the bath, Jacob, etc., but they didn't notice the flash when the bomb went off, or know that Jack, et al blew the island up years before?

i hear ya, but it seemed that they kept themselves pretty isolated within the temple walls. and i bet these people are the original natives on the island. But one would think that they would have noticed the flashes and everything.. maybe it will all come out in later episodes.. i have a feeling the first few episodes of this season are going to be background information that will lead to something bigger

Bearcat
02-04-2010, 12:24 PM
It would basically be season 4 all over again if they did remember, so I hope they're not going that direction, where they all have this feeling like they're in the wrong place and it's all about getting back...

I actually like the idea of an alternate reality where they never went to the island. What I'm worried about is that they'll reconcile the two realities in some trite way, with the push of a magic button.

I was thinking along those lines, too, especially after Miles said Juliette's message was "it worked"... and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it in this thread (but maybe I missed it). When he said that, I got the feeling the Losties on the island will come to the realization that it worked, there's an alternate timeline, and they'll figure out how to pull a Desmond... and then they would have to find each other as constants to stay in the alternate timeline, etc.

Red Brooklyn
02-04-2010, 12:31 PM
I also don't really like the new "others" in the temple. C'mon how many groups of people are we going to discover on the island? These new others are some great keepers of island knowledge - the bath, Jacob, etc., but they didn't notice the flash when the bomb went off, or know that Jack, et al blew the island up years before?
They aren't really new others. They're part of the same group of others (richard, ben, etc) that have been around since the show started. They just live at/care for the temple. I think they're pretty cool. And we don't really know what they know at this point. So far, I buy that they don't know who these people are specifically.

And, I don't think in the current timeline (Jack et al at the temple) that the bomb detonated. But I could be wrong. I'm a little confused about all of that at this point. But my impression is that it did not go off in that timeline.

DaneMcCloud
02-04-2010, 01:32 PM
I also don't really like the new "others" in the temple. C'mon how many groups of people are we going to discover on the island? These new others are some great keepers of island knowledge - the bath, Jacob, etc., but they didn't notice the flash when the bomb went off, or know that Jack, et al blew the island up years before?

For all we know, they may all be survivors of the Black Rock that like Richard, serve Jacob and are therefore ageless.

Except for the stewardess.

tymania
02-04-2010, 01:57 PM
For all we know, they may all be survivors of the Black Rock that like Richard, serve Jacob and are therefore ageless.

Except for the stewardess.

They will probably be the ones who help the losties press the "reset button" again, to merge to the two timelines that are going on right now into one

DaneMcCloud
02-04-2010, 02:00 PM
Anyone notice the two children, Jack & Emma, in the Temple? And there were children in the Temple garden.

Children? On the island?

Very interesting.

Buck
02-04-2010, 02:26 PM
Hmmm, do you think it might have been MIB that kept anyone from having Kids on the island. He obviously doesn't like people there.

KingPriest2
02-04-2010, 02:29 PM
Anyone notice the two children, Jack & Emma, in the Temple? And there were children in the Temple garden.

Children? On the island?

Very interesting.

dude pay attention they were kidnapped from the tailes! Ge'ez how hard is it to remember things from this show! It's not like there is alot to know

mikeyis4dcats.
02-04-2010, 02:41 PM
I'm worried...my first kid is due to be born the day after the Lost finale. Hope he doesn't come a day early!

tymania
02-04-2010, 02:45 PM
I'm worried...my first kid is due to be born the day after the Lost finale. Hope he doesn't come a day early!

times when DVR is a god send

Red Brooklyn
02-04-2010, 03:02 PM
I'm worried...my first kid is due to be born the day after the Lost finale. Hope he doesn't come a day early!
Congrats! And tell that kid to stay put!!:)

Speaking of... has anyone heard a reason given why the show will end on a Sunday instead of it's regular Tuesday timeslot?

Huffmeister
02-04-2010, 03:11 PM
They aren't really new others. They're part of the same group of others (richard, ben, etc) that have been around since the show started.

I agree, these are the same group of Others that we've seen before, but with a new leader. Keep in mind that what we just saw were the Other three years after Ben turned the wheel to move the island.

Ben is told to move the island.
Ben tells the Others to go to the temple. (I distinctly remember that)
Ben turns the wheel, the island moves, and he is teleported to Tunisia.
The Others in the temple are safe from the time slippage.
Since their leader is gone, they appoint a new leader in whatever way the Others appoint new leaders.

Three years pass, during which the Others just stay at the temple. Otherton is abandoned.

The Ajira flight crashes on the island with Ben, Sun, Frank, and Locke's corpse.
Everyone else eventually shows up.

PhillyChiefFan
02-04-2010, 03:20 PM
yeah but to have some kind of new plot twist like this in the final season when major questions over the 6 years its been on are still not answered?

agreed, if they are going to start answering questions, I hope they don't confuse the shit out of everyone and then try to wrap it all up in the last episode.

Chiefnj2
02-04-2010, 03:22 PM
Since their leader is gone, they appoint a new leader in whatever way the Others appoint new leaders.

.

And decide to go green, granola and hippy.

Huffmeister
02-04-2010, 03:42 PM
And decide to go green, granola and hippy.

They weren't before? I didn't see them looking/acting/behaving any different than the first few times we saw the Others on the island. I have no reason to believe that they're a different group, other than the fact that they're at a different location.

I think the fact that the stewardess (which we know from previous seasons is now an Other) is there with the kids is evidence that it is the same group of Others.