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VonneMarie
01-12-2006, 09:48 AM
Mr. Eko and the smoke (http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x10/)
Did you put those images in there babylee? Those images certainly wasn't there lastnight.

VonneMarie
01-12-2006, 09:49 AM
his hair looks exactly the same...
I don't care. Kate dosen't have to touch him.

angel
01-12-2006, 09:50 AM
Lot of impatient people round here. We already had Anna Lucia's background, plus all the main characters last year. Now it was Eko's turn, relax people!

So now Locke and Eko have stared down the 'monster', and have both been spared. Obviously there is a similarity between Locke and Eko, both 'men of faith'. The images caught within the smoke are interesting, hopefully somebody isn't pulling a photoshop prank on us(no offense intended Baby Lee). If it's legit, then the monster has some mindreading capacity, kinda related to The Others who only took the good people, they just know.

Any input on the last line from the computer? "You need to com", before we got cut off. Wasn't sure that last character was an "m" or "n" either. "You need to come get me" perhaps?
watching the episode last night, I know I saw a woman in the smoke- I didn't catch anything else, so I don't think it's photoshopped

tomahawk kid
01-12-2006, 09:56 AM
Ok, here's my theory as to the whole "Lost" series:

It's purgatory.

Everyone actually died during the plane crash and they're now "in between" heaven and hell. What they do on the island determines where they'll go next.

When they are ready to "move on", they're taken by the Others.

It explains why everything ties together from each characters past, why the Others immediately take the children, why Locke can now walk etc.

I was somewhat wavering on this theory until last night. Ecko choosing to be a "priest" could ultimately lead to his salvation.

Take it for what it's worth....

ct
01-12-2006, 09:59 AM
it's a theory, but I don't buy it

Baby Lee
01-12-2006, 10:00 AM
Did you put those images in there babylee? Those images certainly wasn't there lastnight.
1. I did not post them. Got them from link on hometheaterforum.com
2. As I did not post them, and as I did not record the show, I cannot swear to the veracity of each shot.
3. Watching in HD, I certainly did see a number of images running through the smoke as it faced off against Mr. Eko. And I got the distinct sense the smoke was 'auditing' him.

VonneMarie
01-12-2006, 10:01 AM
Ok, here's my theory as to the whole "Lost" series:

It's purgatory.

Everyone actually died during the plane crash and they're now "in between" heaven and hell. What they do on the island determines where they'll go next.

When they are ready to "move on", they're taken by the Others.

It explains why everything ties together from each characters past, why the Others immediately take the children, why Locke can now walk etc.

I was somewhat wavering on this theory until last night. Ecko choosing to be a "priest" could ultimately lead to his salvation.

Take it for what it's worth....
I think that something like that will happen. But as a last resort, if and when this show starts tanking, they will go that route. Kind of like the last season of Dallas and Roseanne (it was all a dream)

KCTitus
01-12-2006, 10:03 AM
Ok, here's my theory as to the whole "Lost" series:

It's purgatory.

Everyone actually died during the plane crash and they're now "in between" heaven and hell. What they do on the island determines where they'll go next.

When they are ready to "move on", they're taken by the Others.

It explains why everything ties together from each characters past, why the Others immediately take the children, why Locke can now walk etc.

I was somewhat wavering on this theory until last night. Ecko choosing to be a "priest" could ultimately lead to his salvation.

Take it for what it's worth....

I think that's a very good/solid theory.

VonneMarie
01-12-2006, 10:06 AM
1. I did not post them. Got them from link on hometheaterforum.com
2. As I did not post them, and as I did not record the show, I cannot swear to the veracity of each shot.
3. Watching in HD, I certainly did see a number of images running through the smoke as it faced off against Mr. Eko. And I got the distinct sense the smoke was 'auditing' him.
I need to get HD because I didn't see any of those images. I did get the sense the monster smoke was searching and spared him.

Baby Lee
01-12-2006, 10:11 AM
Ok, here's my theory as to the whole "Lost" series:

It's purgatory.

Everyone actually died during the plane crash and they're now "in between" heaven and hell. What they do on the island determines where they'll go next.

When they are ready to "move on", they're taken by the Others.

It explains why everything ties together from each characters past, why the Others immediately take the children, why Locke can now walk etc.

I was somewhat wavering on this theory until last night. Ecko choosing to be a "priest" could ultimately lead to his salvation.

Take it for what it's worth....
The 'they're dead' angle was denied by the writers way early on.
My best guess is that there is some kind of utopian experiement that has either been protected or destroyed by the technology it developed. So far, strong electromagnetic power and nano-tech.
And my speculation is that the nano-tech has gotten out of hand, and it is using the electomagnetic power to assemble avatars it feels are more suitable to the aims of the original project.

Shag
01-12-2006, 10:11 AM
Did you put those images in there babylee? Those images certainly wasn't there lastnight.

There were most definitely images in the smoke last night. I noticed them the first time through, then rewound the tivo to make sure I saw what I thought I saw (faces). I can't verify the accuracy of the images in the screenshots (haven't had time to slo-mo it), but I can definitely confirm that there were images/faces in the smoke.

Baby Lee
01-12-2006, 10:14 AM
I need to get HD because I didn't see any of those images. I did get the sense the monster smoke was searching and spared him.
EH, the fogies [Vlad and Skip] say SDTV is still better. ;)

KCTitus
01-12-2006, 10:14 AM
The 'they're dead' angle was denied by the writers way early on.

Oh well...

Baby Lee
01-12-2006, 10:41 AM
Had to laugh at this post over at TwoP

"Hand me my Jesus stick...it's the one with the 23rd psalm and 'Bad Ass Mother F@cker' written on it."

ct
01-12-2006, 11:08 AM
The 'they're dead' angle was denied by the writers way early on.
My best guess is that there is some kind of utopian experiement that has either been protected or destroyed by the technology it developed. So far, strong electromagnetic power and nano-tech.
And my speculation is that the nano-tech has gotten out of hand, and it is using the electomagnetic power to assemble avatars it feels are more suitable to the aims of the original project.

Have you seen the Hanso Foundation site?

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/

VonneMarie
01-12-2006, 11:12 AM
EH, the fogies [Vlad and Skip] say SDTV is still better. ;)
:hmmm:

KCTitus
01-12-2006, 11:13 AM
Have you seen the Hanso Foundation site?

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/

Somewhat creepy site...3 pages. I got 'access denied' when clicking on their projects.

Kclee
01-12-2006, 11:17 AM
I think that's a very good/solid theory.



Did you see your name on the Jesus stick?

ct
01-12-2006, 11:21 AM
Somewhat creepy site...3 pages. I got 'access denied' when clicking on their projects.

there is a hidden link below the visible 'projects'. it's for the Dharma project, has the same clipped video they found in the hatch. the 1st link(Life Extension project) has something to it, but either it's really not there, or my firewall has it blocked.

Anyway, some interesting projects funded there eh?

The Hanso Life-Extension Project
The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative
The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence
The Hanso Mathematical Forecasting Initiative
The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative
The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute
The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility
Dharma Initiative

angel
01-12-2006, 11:27 AM
Had to laugh at this post over at TwoP

"Hand me my Jesus stick...it's the one with the 23rd psalm and 'Bad Ass Mother F@cker' written on it."
hehe, that's awesome

Adept Havelock
01-12-2006, 11:28 AM
3. Watching in HD, I certainly did see a number of images running through the smoke as it faced off against Mr. Eko. And I got the distinct sense the smoke was 'auditing' him.


Yes, but did the e-meter and auditor declare him to be "Clear" of damaging engrams?

AirForceChief
01-12-2006, 11:38 AM
Have you seen the Hanso Foundation site?

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/

If you hit the Terms of Use link you get Disney's web site? :hmmm:

I guess that makes sense, Disney owns ABC...

ct
01-12-2006, 11:47 AM
I already stumbled onto the Disney link, thought that was funny. Here I'm looking for some funky supporting page, and there's big bro disney staring back at me.

Rausch
01-12-2006, 11:51 AM
Yes, but did the e-meter and auditor declare him to be "Clear" of damaging engrams?

Once more, in English...

siberian khatru
01-12-2006, 11:52 AM
Once more, in English...

Scientology.

KCTitus
01-12-2006, 12:04 PM
Did you see your name on the Jesus stick?

Yes, you know why that's there, dont you?

KCTitus
01-12-2006, 12:06 PM
there is a hidden link below the visible 'projects'. it's for the Dharma project, has the same clipped video they found in the hatch. the 1st link(Life Extension project) has something to it, but either it's really not there, or my firewall has it blocked.

Anyway, some interesting projects funded there eh?

The Hanso Life-Extension Project
The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative
The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence
The Hanso Mathematical Forecasting Initiative
The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative
The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute
The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility
Dharma Initiative

The image is not there...Im not running via firewall and when I click on LE project the image comes up broken.

That is interesting, kind of cool how they've built 'websites' as part of the show.

Rausch
01-12-2006, 12:15 PM
Yes, you know why that's there, dont you?

Paul's letters to Titus?

(a Greek) who is in charge of the church at Crete. Paul then talks about various problems in the church there. The natives of Crete have a bad reputation, and so sound teaching is important to promote sensible behavior amoung followers of 'The Way'.

Kclee
01-12-2006, 12:45 PM
Yes, you know why that's there, dont you?

I do not.

And Rausch didn't help me out.

KCTitus
01-12-2006, 12:58 PM
I do not.

And Rausch didn't help me out.

Titus is a book in the Bible/New Testament.

Rausch
01-12-2006, 01:02 PM
Titus is a book in the Bible/New Testament.

His job is to be a spiritual leader in a land of idiots and heathens.

Pretty much...

And until now I hadn't given that much thought to your handle... :hmmm:

KCTitus
01-12-2006, 01:10 PM
His job is to be a spiritual leader in a land of idiots and heathens.

Pretty much...

And until now I hadn't given that much thought to your handle... :hmmm:

Well, my handle is my last name...but I appreciate the irony noted above.

Baby Lee
01-12-2006, 01:13 PM
Well, my handle is my last name...but I appreciate the irony noted above.
I'd just always figured you were some part of Christopher Titus' dysfunctional white-trash extended family. ;)

Kclee
01-12-2006, 01:13 PM
His job is to be a spiritual leader in a land of idiots and heathens.

Pretty much...

And until now I hadn't given that much thought to your handle... :hmmm:


Ah. Ok. Now I just have to figure out how the hedgehog fits into all of this.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

Rausch
01-12-2006, 01:15 PM
Well, my handle is my last name...but I appreciate the irony noted above.

Someone knew what they were doing...

KingPriest2
01-12-2006, 01:20 PM
there is a hidden link below the visible 'projects'. it's for the Dharma project, has the same clipped video they found in the hatch. the 1st link(Life Extension project) has something to it, but either it's really not there, or my firewall has it blocked.

Anyway, some interesting projects funded there eh?

The Hanso Life-Extension Project
The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative
The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence
The Hanso Mathematical Forecasting Initiative
The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative
The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute
The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility
Dharma Initiative
There have been a few Star Wars references.

Han Chevie. JEdi

KCTitus
01-12-2006, 01:20 PM
I'd just always figured you were some part of Christopher Titus' dysfunctional white-trash extended family. ;)

ROFL

Miles
01-13-2006, 03:20 AM
Crichton's "Prey" (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0066214122/qid=1137071109/sr=8-3/ref=pd_bbs_3/002-3594649-6751216?n=507846&s=books&v=glance)

Pretty much what I lifted that guess from.

ct
01-13-2006, 09:04 AM
His job is to be a spiritual leader in a land of idiots and heathens.

Pretty much...

And until now I hadn't given that much thought to your handle... :hmmm:

Well, my handle is my last name...but I appreciate the irony noted above.

ROFL ROFL

That's Hall of Classics material right there!! Or maybe it's just me...

Bob Dole
01-13-2006, 10:29 AM
there is a hidden link below the visible 'projects'. it's for the Dharma project, has the same clipped video they found in the hatch. the 1st link(Life Extension project) has something to it, but either it's really not there, or my firewall has it blocked.

Anyway, some interesting projects funded there eh?

The Hanso Life-Extension Project
The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative
The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence
The Hanso Mathematical Forecasting Initiative
The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative
The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute
The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility
Dharma Initiative

The photo of Hanso on the Alvar Honso page launches a flash movie. It's also got an odd mouseover image.

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/images/alvarhanso_on.jpg

If you view the source of the page, there's also a hidden section at the bottom with a huge series of numbers.

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|102,105,103,46,50,95,114,116,108,111,104,103,47,115,101,103,97,109,105

Adept Havelock
01-13-2006, 10:37 AM
Titus is a book in the Bible/New Testament.

Personally, I preferred the sitcom.

Bearcat
01-13-2006, 03:31 PM
the overall plot is moving foward pretty damn slow.


Pretty standard... this one was really predictable though... the similarities between Echo's story & what was happening were so obvious for most of the show, so I was expecting a cliffhanger or something at the end.


Of all the unanswered questions/unfinished storylines, I actually expected to see Desmond again... I guess we could see him again with the others :shrug:

ct
01-16-2006, 10:52 AM
Check this out, some wierd stuff here.

http://www.oceanic-air.com/seatingchart.htm

Click around the various seats, and there is some bizarre stuff. Most of these link are empty though.

ct
01-16-2006, 03:39 PM
Perhaps this will generate some interest. A fantasy football connection?

There is another site out there, linked from the Hanso Foundation site:

http://oceanicworldair.com

If you click on 'others', it takes you to a Draft history page for the Miami Dolphins, from 2004-2012. Hmmm... Search around a little bit, you'll find some interesting things, like Miami's 2004 4th round pick, with Year 1 numbers of 23/42 (2 of the 'special' numbers), named Ethan Goodwyn. That name ring a couple bells? by the way, no f-in idea what those Year 1/2/3 etc. numbers mean.

Some other intesting twists, such as there is no Green Bay Packers team, but now a Sioux Falls Wigs. Sadly, if you go to http://www.desktopdynasties.com/WigFL/index.php the Broncos are 2-time defeinding champs.

Bob Dole
01-16-2006, 03:52 PM
Check this out, some wierd stuff here.

http://www.oceanic-air.com/seatingchart.htm

Click around the various seats, and there is some bizarre stuff. Most of these link are empty though.

That one has been around awhile.

AZORChiefFan
01-18-2006, 03:48 PM
Here's a link to some screen caps of the smoke/monster. This may have been posted if so - oh well. SMOKE (http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6056&highlight=black+cloud)

ct
01-18-2006, 04:18 PM
That one has been around awhile.

Looks like you're right. May be totally bogus too.

Bob Dole
01-18-2006, 09:06 PM
Sarah is a lot hotter as Denise.

(Not...no that Denise.)

chiefs4me
01-18-2006, 09:41 PM
Sawyer called him zeek.......PBJ

Psyko Tek
01-18-2006, 10:18 PM
Sawyer called him zeek.......PBJ


think he was called zeke when he took walt

i just wanna know why jack and them didn't say we don't want on your crummy island can you help us leave


prb'ly wouldn't work but jebus they got a boat the others might wanna get rid of them

and where's the crazy french chick

chiefs4me
01-18-2006, 10:31 PM
think he was called zeke when he took walt

i just wanna know why jack and them didn't say we don't want on your crummy island can you help us leave


prb'ly wouldn't work but jebus they got a boat the others might wanna get rid of them

and where's the crazy french chick






that will be next weeks show..... one thing at a time, remember..:D

Rausch
01-19-2006, 12:02 AM
"How long do you think it would take to train an army?"

Now THAT'S what I'm talk'n 'bout.

Lets see us some Adabesi/Sayeed/Sawyer/Locke ass kicking and names on the boom stick.

patteeu
01-19-2006, 01:05 AM
Did Sawyer shoot at Zeke and have his own bullet hit him in the cheek or did someone else shoot him before he could pull the trigger? Or did I completely miss what happened and no one shot anyone?

siberian khatru
01-19-2006, 06:48 AM
"How long do you think it would take to train an army?"

Now THAT'S what I'm talk'n 'bout.

Lets see us some Adabesi/Sayeed/Sawyer/Locke ass kicking and names on the boom stick.

I got excited about that too -- until I remembered I was watching "Lost," not "24." The writers will drag out this army storyline into next season.

Bob Dole
01-19-2006, 07:24 AM
Tidbits:

Zeke was quoting Alvar Hanso (address to the U.N. Security Council, 1967) with the "curiosity" thing in last night's episode. Bob Dole thinks that Zeke bears a resemblance to the person we assume to be Gerald DeGroot in the Station 3 orientation film.

Zeke yelled, "Bring her out, Alex!" when he wanted them to bring out Kate. Alex was the French woman's child's name.

There's an official Podcast apparently, and they've confirmed that it's the D.H.A.R.M.A. Initiative and that Dr. Candle's left arm is a prosthetic.

tomahawk kid
01-19-2006, 07:36 AM
Tidbits:

Zeke was quoting Alvar Hanso (address to the U.N. Security Council, 1967) with the "curiosity" thing in last night's episode. Bob Dole thinks that Zeke bears a resemblance to the person we assume to be Gerald DeGroot in the Station 3 orientation film.

Zeke yelled, "Bring her out, Alex!" when he wanted them to bring out Kate. Alex was the French woman's child's name.

There's an official Podcast apparently, and they've confirmed that it's the D.H.A.R.M.A. Initiative and that Dr. Candle's left arm is a prosthetic.

Which French woman?

The one Jack planted one on?

Bob Dole
01-19-2006, 07:59 AM
Which French woman?

The one Jack planted one on?

The one on the island that had Sayid captive.

tomahawk kid
01-19-2006, 08:01 AM
The one on the island that had Sayid captive.

Got it.

What ever happened to her?

Chiefnj
01-19-2006, 08:34 AM
I watched the show last night, but was wondering what I missed. I mean, it seems that unless you watch it frame by frame and take notes of every word said you run the risk of missing out on important clues to the storyline. What were the subtle important clues last night?

Overall, it is still a good show, but last night was completely unbelievable. Jack thinks he can take on 30 armed people who have him completely surrounded. The Others talk about the plane people as being guests, but yet Jack doesn't say that they don't want to be guests, they want off.

PS: I'd like to see a split between men of science and men of faith and have a three part war.

MOhillbilly
01-19-2006, 08:36 AM
Overall, it is still a good show, but last night was completely unbelievable. Jack thinks he can take on 30 armed people who have him completely surrounded. The Others talk about the plane people as being guests, but yet Jack doesn't say that they don't want to be guests, they want off.


the guy had an AK.
Guns= power

ct
01-19-2006, 08:38 AM
Tidbits:

Zeke was quoting Alvar Hanso (address to the U.N. Security Council, 1967) with the "curiosity" thing in last night's episode. Bob Dole thinks that Zeke bears a resemblance to the person we assume to be Gerald DeGroot in the Station 3 orientation film.

Zeke yelled, "Bring her out, Alex!" when he wanted them to bring out Kate. Alex was the French woman's child's name.

There's an official Podcast apparently, and they've confirmed that it's the D.H.A.R.M.A. Initiative and that Dr. Candle's left arm is a prosthetic.

I agree, as do others.

http://www.humpys.net/images/theothers.jpg

I watched the show last night, but was wondering what I missed. I mean, it seems that unless you watch it frame by frame and take notes of every word said you run the risk of missing out on important clues to the storyline. What were the subtle important clues last night?

Overall, it is still a good show, but last night was completely unbelievable. Jack thinks he can take on 30 armed people who have him completely surrounded. The Others talk about the plane people as being guests, but yet Jack doesn't say that they don't want to be guests, they want off.

PS: I'd like to see a split between men of science and men of faith and have a three part war.

See Bob Dole's note above about Alex. And note that Jack did not think there were 30 armed people, you really do need to pay attention.

siberian khatru
01-19-2006, 08:40 AM
I watched the show last night, but was wondering what I missed. I mean, it seems that unless you watch it frame by frame and take notes of every word said you run the risk of missing out on important clues to the storyline. What were the subtle important clues last night?


I share your frustration, but I've come to accept that this is just a different kind of show. It's not meant to be watched like any other show. It's not a passive experience. It demands the viewer get involved. You have to Tivo episodes and go back and watch them and freeze-frame stuff. Or you have to go to a website and read about all the clues and subliminal stuff.

I actually think this would work better as a DVD-only production, with easter eggs and stuff to access as you watch it. It would be easier than watching it in real time, week-to-week, where you miss/forget stuff.

I actually don't know why I watch it every week. I suspect there's some kind of subliminal message broadcast in each episode that compels me to tune in every 7 days.

ct
01-19-2006, 08:42 AM
Seems only a matter of time before they stop pushing the button, or have another chat with beardface and threaten to hold the button ransom.

Chiefnj
01-19-2006, 08:43 AM
I agree, as do others.

http://www.humpys.net/images/theothers.jpg



See Bob Dole's note above about Alex. And note that Jack did not think there were 30 armed people, you really do need to pay attention.

Jack called his bluff, then the guy yelled light 'em up and about 30 torches surrounded them. Even a man of science would likely conclude that they were now ****ed.

ct
01-19-2006, 08:47 AM
Jack called his bluff, then the guy yelled light 'em up and about 30 torches surrounded them. Even a man of science would likely conclude that they were now ****ed.

definitely, Jack called his bluff and got smoked

Somebody mentioned Sawyer's attempt to shoot beardface. I think he did get shot by somebody else before he actually fired. But considering the electromagnetic stuff goin on, it may have been his own bullet. I was wondering the same thing while watching last night.

Bob Dole
01-19-2006, 08:47 AM
I watched the show last night, but was wondering what I missed. I mean, it seems that unless you watch it frame by frame and take notes of every word said you run the risk of missing out on important clues to the storyline. What were the subtle important clues last night?

Overall, it is still a good show, but last night was completely unbelievable. Jack thinks he can take on 30 armed people who have him completely surrounded. The Others talk about the plane people as being guests, but yet Jack doesn't say that they don't want to be guests, they want off.

PS: I'd like to see a split between men of science and men of faith and have a three part war.

Bob Dole doesn't think there were 30 and there wasn't really any evidence that they were all armed. Bob Dole would agree with your general principle, though. A DVR setting screwed the pooch and didn't record it though, so Bob Dole can't go back and count.

The most significant thing Bob Dole caught was that Zeke quoted Alvar Hanso.

ct
01-19-2006, 08:51 AM
Bob Dole doesn't think there were 30 and there wasn't really any evidence that they were all armed. Bob Dole would agree with your general principle, though. A DVR setting screwed the pooch and didn't record it though, so Bob Dole can't go back and count.

The most significant thing Bob Dole caught was that Zeke quoted Alvar Hanso.

Yes, Zeke quoted Hanso, and the picture link I posted in supports the trail leading up to last nights show that he is the Dr. in the video. Also important your point about Alex, eventually Danielle would be back, so here it is.

My wife had heard that the actor playing Walt had hit a major growth spurt in the off-season, so they have tried to effectively write him out for this season, with a new kid assuming the role next year. Maybe they are writing Michael out for a bit as well. BTW, I hate it when shows switch actors like that.

Bob Dole
01-19-2006, 09:02 AM
Yes, Zeke quoted Hanso, and the picture link I posted in supports the trail leading up to last nights show that he is the Dr. in the video. Also important your point about Alex, eventually Danielle would be back, so here it is.

My wife had heard that the actor playing Walt had hit a major growth spurt in the off-season, so they have tried to effectively write him out for this season, with a new kid assuming the role next year. Maybe they are writing Michael out for a bit as well. BTW, I hate it when shows switch actors like that.

The odd part is that Bob Dole doesn't think you would catch the Hanso quote unless you were an internet user and were aware of the Hanso Foundation website.

Which brings up the issue that because of the multimedia aspect of the damned show, a person can easily mind-**** themselves on the whole thing.

If you don't do the really geeky thing and Google "Geronimo Jackson" looking for web clues and just go directly to www.geronimojackson.com , there are some odd coincidences.

At least they appear to be coincidences...the domain is registered through a proxy.

patteeu
01-19-2006, 09:42 AM
The odd part is that Bob Dole doesn't think you would catch the Hanso quote unless you were an internet user and were aware of the Hanso Foundation website.

Which brings up the issue that because of the multimedia aspect of the damned show, a person can easily mind-**** themselves on the whole thing.

If you don't do the really geeky thing and Google "Geronimo Jackson" looking for web clues and just go directly to www.geronimojackson.com , there are some odd coincidences.

At least they appear to be coincidences...the domain is registered through a proxy.

You guys keep me from having to get too geeky about this. Thanks for all the insights, clues, and TIVO-enabled analysis you and others offer in this thread each week. :thumb:

Mile High Mania
01-19-2006, 10:23 AM
If you click on the link of that guy on the Hanso site under this section...

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/alvarhanso.html

You see a pic that looks like Leslie Nielsen, but if you click the pic there's half of a typed letter on the right side. Surely, one of you techie types can figure out how to enlarge and read it.

Mile High Mania
01-19-2006, 10:27 AM
I'm sure someone mentioned it, but on that Hanso site, if you go to "active projects" and put your cursor just under the last one listed...

You'll see the name Dharma Initiative appear and it links to the video.

tomahawk kid
01-19-2006, 10:42 AM
If you click on the picture, it gives you some scrolling message.

Similiar to the script when Michael was talking to Walt.

I wonder who the "MOLE" is?

KCTitus
01-19-2006, 10:47 AM
If you don't do the really geeky thing and Google "Geronimo Jackson" looking for web clues and just go directly to www.geronimojackson.com , there are some odd coincidences.

At least they appear to be coincidences...the domain is registered through a proxy.

Went to the link posted...not sure I found anything coincidental about it. It was a cafepress site selling old stuff.

Bob Dole
01-19-2006, 10:53 AM
Went to the link posted...not sure I found anything coincidental about it. It was a cafepress site selling old stuff.

You don't find it an odd coincidence that the first sentence on the page is:

"If you're lost and looking for something but you're not sure what..."

Or that last night's episode ended with Jack talking about an army and this image is on the page?

http://logo.cafepress.com/8/965492.336138.jpg

Or that this petroglyph looks kind of like Zeke?

http://logo.cafepress.com/8/965492.1030288.jpg

Or that you went there because of a 1970's band reference and there's a link to "Vintage Music" items?

Like Bob Dole said...it's easy to start mind-****ing yourself into seeing things where there aren't any. :)

KCTitus
01-19-2006, 11:24 AM
You don't find it an odd coincidence that the first sentence on the page is:

"If you're lost and looking for something but you're not sure what..."

Or that last night's episode ended with Jack talking about an army and this image is on the page?

http://logo.cafepress.com/8/965492.336138.jpg

Or that this petroglyph looks kind of like Zeke?

http://logo.cafepress.com/8/965492.1030288.jpg

Or that you went there because of a 1970's band reference and there's a link to "Vintage Music" items?

Like Bob Dole said...it's easy to start mind-****ing yourself into seeing things where there aren't any. :)

LOL...you got me. Nice.

KingPriest2
01-19-2006, 11:29 AM
4


- # of guns left according to Jack in the season 2 premiere. [Thank you Adam]

- # of suits hanging in Desmond's closet. [Thank you Orly & Lost Hatch]

- # of clothes spinning in Desmond's dryer. [Thank you Lost Hatch]

- # of times Jack asks Sarah if she can feel what he is doing to her legs. [Thank you Orly]

- # of times Shannon calls out for Sayid when she's running through the jungle looking for Vincent. [Thank you Orly]

- The number Kate counts to before she's pulled down the hatch.

- # of unopened candy bars Kate takes to put in the back of her pants.

- In the film, Dr. Candle said that from the time the alarm sounds, they have 4 minutes to enter the code. [Thank you Karen]

- Sayid referenced Chernobyl while inside the hatch in Everybody Hates Hugo. The reactor responsible for the Chernobyl nuclear accident was reactor number 4. [Thank you Trish]

- # that appears on the newspaper that Jin's friend was reading.

- # of times Sayid hits the concrete wall (both times) in Everybody Hates Hugo. [Thank you Mike]

- In ...And Found, Sun says it has been 4 days since the raft has sailed. [Thank you Amos]

- In Abandoned, Michael tells Bernard he needs 4 sturdy sticks. [Thank you Karen]

- In The Other 48 Days, Libby says Donald will be the 4th to go.

- In The Other 48 Days, Goodwin tells Ana he is worried about her and that she has had Nathan down in the hole for 4 days.

- # of months ago Ana's psychiatrist says they met.

- # of bullets Ana got hit with.

- Mr. Eko tells Jack there are 4 tail end survivors. [Thank you Jenny]

- # of months before Kate's birth that her dad's photos she was sent were taken.

- The Dharma film states you have 4 minutes to enter the code once the alarm sounds. [Thank you Jenny]

- # of rocks Jack moves out of his way to retrieve his golf ball. [Thank you Scott]

- # of times Ana Lucia knocks on her mom's office door.


8


- # of months until Sarah's wedding when she got injured.

- # that appears on the top of the safe dial.

- # of people in the operating room when Jack performs surgery on Sarah.

- # of the machine Sarah has in the hospital.

- # of rungs on the ladder leading into the hatch. [Thank you Ray]

- # of switches for orientating mirrors on the hatch. [Thank you Lost Hatch]

- # of people in the room during Michael's hearing with Susan.

- # of pieces of chicken Hurley ate while working.

- # of the gas pump that Hurley drove by.

- # that appears on the newspaper that Jin's friend was reading.

- # of feet thick Sayid estimates the concrete wall to be. (8 to 10 feet) [Thank you Chris]

- In Abandoned, Claire says the baby has been awake for 8 hours. [Thank you Karen]

- # on one of the zones on the shooting target Ana Lucia was aiming at.





15


- Locke is shown moving the book The Turn Of The Screw by Henry James. It was his 15th published book.

- In Orientation Desmond tells Jack "In about 15 minutes you're either going to be very right or very wrong brother." [Thank you Sid]

- The newspaper Jin's friend is reading has a column that says 5 4 3 2 1 in a row. When added it totals 15. [Thank you The Popester]

- In Abandoned, there were 15 pieces on the backgammon board when Locke and Charlie were playing. [Thank you William]

- Day 15 is one of the days shown in The Other 48 Days.

- Ana Lucia's mother's office number is 315.


16


- Desmond is riding his exercise bike in the hatch at 16 MPH.

- # of water spouts on each of the two outer rings of Desmond's shower head. [Thank you El Ninyo]

- # of panels on the window in the lawyer's office.

- When Desmond told Jack and Locke to "look up at the wall" the timer showed 97 mintues (9 + 7 = 16). [Thank you Karen]

- # of people attending the meeting in the beginning of Orientation. [Thank you Pete]

- # that appears on the newspaper that Jin's friend was reading.

- In Abandoned, Shannon tells Sabrina she will be working 16 hours a day.

- In ...And Found, Mr. Lee's license plate is 3490. 3 + 4 + 9 + 0 = 16. [Thank you El Ninyo]

- # of Virgin Mary statues the woman had when asking Eko to purchase one.


23


- Nurse in the operating room said Sarah's pulse was 88 over 52. 8 + 8 + 5 + 2 = 23.

- The clock in Sarah's hospital room shows 2:30 when she wakes up and asks if she's alive.

- The first sequence of numbers on Jack's hospital ID is 75425. 7 + 5 + 4 + 2 + 5 = 23.

- To open the safe we see Desmond go to the numbers 23, 42, 48. If you add up each of the digits 2 + 3 + 4 + 2 + 4 + 8 = 23. [Thank you Mike]

- The expiration date on the candy bar Kate opens is October 23rd 2004.

- # of people from the tail end of the plane that Libby says survived.

- When Sun is getting out of the limo to meet her date for the first time, there is a car in the background with the license plate 5468. 5 + 4 + 6 + 8 = 23.

- In Everybody Hates Hugo, Sayid says the concrete walls remind him of Chernobyl. The Chernobyl disaster took place at 1:23 AM. [Thank you Scott]

- Day 23 is one of the days shown in The Other 48 Days.

- Ana Lucia's mother says she picked up Jason on an assault charge in Echo Park. A famous landmark in Echo Park is the Angelus Temple, a large Foursquare Gospel church built in 1923.

- In What Kate Did, Kate buys a one way ticket to Tallahassee. In October 1823 John Lee Williams & Dr. William Simmons selected Tallahassee as the most suitable place as a meeting point for the (at that time) territorial government. When Florida became a state Tallahassee officially became the capital.

- 23 seconds appear on the clock when Jack and Locke run into the hatch.

- 23 minutes appear on the clock when Locke tells Michael that you cannot enter the code until the alarm sounds. [Thank you Mark]

- Episode 10 was titled The 23rd Psalm. Eko recites the Psalm in this episode.

- Eko has the 23rd Psalm carved in his stick.


42


- One of the numbers that appears on the mural inside of the hatch. [Thank you Lap Luu]

- # in millions of dollars that Hurley's net worth increased since he won the lottery. In season 1 we heard Hurley was worth 156 million dollars, but in Man Of Science, Man Of Faith Hurley says he won 114 million dollars. 156,000,000 - 114,000,000 = 42,000,000. [Thank you Pete]

- # of water spouts on Desmond's shower head. [Thank you El Ninyo and Lost Hatch]

- 3:42 appears on the countdown clock inside the hatch in Everybody Hates Hugo.

- We found out Hurley originally won 114 million dollars but is now worth 156 million dollars. 156 - 114 means that Hurley has increased his net worth by 42 million dollars. [Thank you Zevince]

- Ana's cruiser license plate number was 5Q49987. 5 + 4 + 9 + 9 + 8 + 7 = 42.

- The crossword puzzle question Locke is on is number 42.

- We see Locke filling in the answer space for question 42.


815


- 8:15 AM was the time of death for Adam Rutherford.


MIXED


- The bottles of medicine that Desmond has in his cabinet all say 4 8 15 16 23 42 across the top.

- When Jack is running through the stadium, the camera focuses on two of the seats and they are numbered 15 and 16.

- A wall inside the hatch shows the number 108. 108 is the sum of 4 8 15 16 23 42.

- To open the safe we see Desmond go to the numbers 23, 42, 48.

- It appears as though Desmond types 4 8 15 16 23 42 on the keyboard before hitting the execute button. Note: You can't see the keys he's hitting but if you count the keys and where he hits the space bar it does fit with 4 8 15 16 23 42 and it does look like he hits the 1 key twice, once for 15 and once for 16. [Thank you KStudio]

- When Jack is running through the stadium we can see signs up that label the rows of seating. We can see 4 8 15 42.

- Locke resets the clock to 108:00. 108 is the sum of 4 8 15 16 23 42.

- Desmond makes Locke type 4 8 15 16 23 42 and then hit execute.

- When Desmond and Locke first get to the clock it was on 2:38. 23 & 8. [Thank you Dave]

- When Jack hands over the jar to Desmond the timer showed 84 minutes (8 & 4). [Thank you Karen]

- After Desmond said "it's over" the time showed 48 minutes left (4 & 8). [Thank you Karen]

- Dr. Candle, in the film, said "the button must be pushed every 108 minutes. (108 = sum of all the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42). [Thank you Karen]

Desmond told the sequence of numbers to Jack in the jungle (4 8 15 16 23 42). [Thank you Karen]

- Locke typed all the numbers into the computer, before asking Jack to press "execute". [Thank you Karen]

- After putting the in sequence of numbers, Locke looked at the timer it showed 2:16, then 2:15 (16 & 15). [Thank you Karen]

- Locke is shown grabbing the book The Turn Of The Screw by Henry James. Henry James was born April 15th. 4/15.

- Day 48 is one of the days shown in The Other 48 Days.

- Episode 7 of Season 2 was titled The Other 48 Days. [Thank you Kris]

- Ana Lucia's car number was 8 Adam 16.

KingPriest2
01-19-2006, 11:33 AM
4


- # OF YEARS LOCKE WAS IN HIS WHEELCHAIR.

- # OF GUNS IN THE MARSHAL'S CASE.

- # OF ACES ON BOONE'S T-SHIRT.

- # of years since Hurley's grandfather got his pacemaker.

- # of years since Sam Toome killed himself.

- # of years since Sawyer made his "birthday wish".

- # of people that will fit on Michael's raft.

- # of months Michelangelo stared at marble "working" in Locke's story.

- # of months Boone asks if they're going to stare at the hatch.

- # of miles due west back to camp from where Locke ties up Boone.

- # of people Micheal needed to help did Jack out of the cave-in.

- # of refills of Shannon's inhaler Boone brought with him.

- # of days that pass before Jack decides to burn the fuselage & bodies for a signal.

- # of kids the nurse taking care of Micheal has.

- # of traps Locke sets up around camp to get Ethan.

- # of times Hurley says Charlie shot Ethan.

- # of months the psychic tried to convince Claire to raise her baby alone before giving her money and telling her of the couple in LA.

- # of Oceanic planes on the mobile in Claire's dream.

- # of dotted dice in a backgammon game.

- # of weeks ago Locke says he wouldn't have believed his crazy talk either (while talking to Boone).

- # of times Boone repeats Theresa falls up the stairs, Theresa falls down the stairs.

- # of times Locke bangs on his car roof at the end of Deus Ex Machina.

- # of shots that are fired by the male bank robbers in Whatever The Case May Be.

- # of the machine that Locke has while waking up in the hospital after the kidney transplant in Deus Ex Machina.

- # of times Locke bangs on the hatch before it lights up.

- # of 4's that appear on Sarah's t-shirt in Do No Harm.

- # of people Jack wonders if Charlie asked about their bloodtype.

- # of times Jin hits the raft with the axe before running off to help Kate.

- # that appears on Boone's shirt with the Chinese symbols.

- # appears after Arista in the jukebox on the Driveshaft song.

- Jack's dad's watch had the minute hand on 4.

- Jack plays the key B4 on the piano.

- Shannon asks Boone what him and Locke have been doing in the jungle for the past 4 days.

- Sayid said the French signal could be a SAT 4.

- Leonard was playing the game Connect 4.

- Walt says he needs a 4 & a 3 in the backgammon game.

- Plane hit turbulence at 40,000 feet.

- Charlie jokes about Locke bringing 400 knives.

- The guy with the beans was running that scam for 40 years.

- "Adam and Eve" have been in the caves for 40 years.

- Driveshaft is #234 on the jukebox (23 and 4).

- A column appears on the papers about Locke's Mother. 555-0121. 0 + 1 + 2 + 1 = 4.

- # of black dots that appear on Walt's ceiling in Special. [Thank you Ana]

- # of letters Michael flips through when handed the box of letters by Walt's nanny.

- There is a poster on the wall of the pool hall in Confidence Man, the date is January (1st month) 3rd. 1 + 3 = 4.

- The pool ball 14 is on the pool table in Confidence Man.

- The price on Walt's comic book in Argentina is $4.XX

- # of stars in the DC logo on Walt's comic book.

- LOST has 4 letters. [Thank you Mikael]

- In White Rabbit, Locke's watch's minute hand is set to 4.

- # of times Shannon touches Boone's hair before the camera cuts to Sayid and he goes over to console her in The Greater Good.

- # on the explosives inside the boxes of the truck.

- # of times Hurley says the word "good" while singing James Brown to the baby.

- The types of explosives stolen were C4.

- The license plate on the second truck Sayid and Essam get into is MRL 724. 7 + 2 + 4 = 13. 1 + 3 = 4.

- The magazine description Sawyer reads says the car has 400 horsepower.

- The magazine description says the car has a 4.4 liter power plant under the hood.

- # of months Mr. Arzt says is the next time they can launch the raft.

- Tom says his son Connor will be 22 months old. 2 + 2 = 4.

- # of bottles of water Hurley filled for his hike to see Danielle. [Thank you Daniel]

- Hurley rides past a boy giving 2 peace signs to a camera while getting his picture taken. He's holding up 4 fingers.

- # of times the girl in the hotel room with Charlie tells him to let the heroin go before he knocks her to the floor. [Thank you Daniel]

- Shannon asks Boone what a 4 letter word for "I don't care" is. [Thank you Mark]

- # of scratches on Danielle's arm from Claire. [Thank you Patty]

- # of people who kidnap Walt. [Thank you Sven]

- # of explosions that happen in Exodus. Arzt blowing up, Kate throwing the dynamite in the hole, the hatch being opened, and the raft exploding. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- # of bracelets the girl in the hotel room with Charlie was wearing. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- # of scratches on Jack's face in The Pilot. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- # of time Jack shouts "Come on!" at Rose in The Pilot before she revives. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- In The Pilot the clock inside of the cockpit displays 4:00. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- # of stripes on the pilot's shirt in The Pilot. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- # of family members Hurley introduces to the media after he wins the lottery. [Thank you Perrie]

- Jack says it has to be almost 4:00 when Kate, Locke and Boone are out look for Claire. [Thank you Blake]

- # of fingers Charlie taped. [Thank you Liquid Flash]

- # of people who died in a car bomb in Sayid's story to Charlie. The wife and three kids. [Thank you Knife Cut]

- # on the dice in Deus Ex Machina when the camera focuses on the Mouse Trap board. [Thank you David]

- On the radar, when Sawyer and Michael first see the ship, it appears on the 4th ring out from the center. [Thank you Mike]

- # of times we hear Sayid chop a piece of wood in House Of The Rising Sun before Jack and Kate come up to him with water. [Thank you David]

- # of people at the black smoke in Exodus Part 2. [Thank you Jessi]

- # of people at the hatch when it is opened in Exodus Part 2. [Thank you Jessi]

- # of times Charlie turns on the flashlight before he goes into the caves to attempt to rescue Jack in The Moth. [Thank you Leewick]

- # of scratches that appear on Ethan's cheek in Homecoming. [Thank you Amos]

- # of times Locke blows the dog whistle before Vincent comes out of the jungle in Tabula Rasa. [Thank you Orly]

- # of years that pass after Theresa dies, to when Boone and Shannon's parents get married. [Thank you Amos]

- # of times Hurley shouts "The numbers are bad!" before the hatch blows up in Exodus Part 2.

- # of bamboo logs that Jin brings to Michael as a sign of friendship at the end of ...In Translation. [Thank you Orly]

- # of windows on the broken piece of plane in Sawyer's compound in Outlaws. [Thank you Amos]

- # of times that Locke says "get out" to Boone before the plane crashes. [Thank you Orly]

- # of times Jin kisses Sun's shoulder in ...In Translation. [Thank you Gal]

- Sydney, the Australian city where the airport for Oceanic is located has 4 million inhabitants. [Thank you Orly]

- Los Angeles, the city where the plane was scheduled to land, was incorporated as a city of California on April 4. [Thank you Orly]

- # on the sticker of hazardous material when Boone speaks with Brian at the boat docks. [Thank you Stevie]


8


- # of months Claire was pregnant when they crashed.

- # of kilometers the hitman tells Jin to drive.

- # of people that die in Hurley's shoe factory fire.

- # of whiskey shots between Sawyer and Christian Shepherd.

- # of hours Kate would spend in the woods with her father tracking deer.

- # of years since Michael got hit by car.

- # of years Michael's been writing Walt.

- # of months Locke and Helen have been talking.

- # of days since Charlie went without his guitar.

- # of weeks Driveshaft was going to tour.

- # of days after the crash Jack & the other survivors moved to the caves.

- # of years Michael worked in construction.

- # of months since farmer's wife died when he met Kate.

- # that appears on Boone's shirt with the Chinese symbols.

- # of times Jin punches the guy he was "giving the message" to for Sun's father.

- # of beers Jack's best man says he should have before giving the speech.

- Sawyer's age when his dad killed himself and his wife.

- Shannon's age when her dad married Boone's mom.

- News station at Hurley's Lotto interview was channel 8.

- Walt born in August (8th month).

- Claire was missing for 8 days since Ethan took her.

- In the Pilot Part 2 when Charlie takes off his shoe, inside it says size 8.

- # appears after Arista in the jukebox on the Driveshaft song.

- 323 is the area code of Locke's Mom's telephone number. 3 + 2 + 3 = 8.

- 8 appears in Locke's license plate.

- Charlie hits the jukebox keys 1 3 and 4 in Homecoming. 1 + 3 + 4 = 8.

- The license plate on the detective's car who catches Kate in Tabula Rasa is ALK-125. 1 + 2 + 5 = 8.

- # of sections in Walt's ceiling in Special. [Thank you Ana]

- The 8 ball is on the pool table in Confidence Man.

- The pool balls 2 and 6 are shown on the pool table in Confidence Man. 2 + 6 = 8.

- The price on Walt's comic book in Spain is $800.00

- # of people kneeling in the second row of the mosque.

- Sayid was kept for 18 hours in the holding cell.

- In The Greater Good when it shows Boone's driving license we can see he was born in 1981.

- The license plate on the truck Sayid and Essam were in was ALK 125. 1 + 2 + 5 = 8.

- The magazine description Sawyer reads says the car has a V8 engine.

- When reading the magazine description Sawyer says the car delivers a 350 pound rear-wheel torque. 3 + 5 + 0 = 8. - Sawyer says the car has a 32 valve V8 engine. V = 22nd letter of the alphabet. 3 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 8 = 17. 1 + 7 = 8.

- The magazine description says the car has a 4.4 liter power plant under the hood. 4 + 4 = 8.

- A news reporter is holding a microphone in front of Hurley and it's from station 17. 1 + 7 = 8.

- In Numbers when Hurley is flipping through the TV channels it goes to a hockey game and it shows the player with jersey number 17. 1 + 7 = 8. [Thank you Daniel]

- In Exodus when Danielle arrives at camp she says a series of numbers. She mentions it was 16 years ago they arrived, there were 6 of them, then says she was 7 months pregnant, she said the baby were together 1 week, and the black smoke was 5 kilometers inland. 16 + 6 + 7 + 1 + 5 = 35. 3 + 5 = 8.

- Jack and Ana's seat numbers were 23B and 42F. B = 2nd letter of the alphabet, F = 6th letter of the alphabet. 2 + 6 = 8.

- Hurley says Twinkies stay fresh for 8,000 years.

- The guy on the scooter that Hurley approaches has crazy 8's written on his hat.

- Hurley looks up at a sign in the airport that says gates 14 thru 23. There are 8 numbers between 14 and 23.

- Hurley's license plate in Exodus was TX 327. T = 20th letter. X = 24th. 2 + 0 + 2 + 4 = 8.

- While Jin is on the raft in Exodus, his watch appears to display 5:30. 5 + 3 = 8. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- When Charlie runs to get Sayid, he passes 7 redshirt characters. Sayid is the 8th person. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- # of times in The Pilot that Jack hits the airplane's cockpit door before it opens. [Thank you Laura]

- # of windows on the broken piece of plane that Jack runs by in The Pilot. [Thank you Jaap]

- # of questions Sun asks Jin once she steps into the bathroom in House Of The Rising Sun. [Thank you David]

- In the airport scene of House Of The Rising Sun, we can hear over the intercom that they are boarding Oceanic flight 125 nonstop to Singapore. 1 + 2 + 5 = 8. [Thank you David]

- # of weeks long that Drive Shaft's comeback tour was.

- Kate's mom's room was number 208. [Thank you Tracy]

- # of deaths that occurred on the island in the first season. [Thank you Kirsty]

- In Born To Run, there is a license plate in Kate's trunk from Michigan. Michigan is ranked the 8th most populated state.

- In Born To Run, Kate has a license plate from Colorado. Colorado is ranked the 8th largest state by area.

- In Born To Run, Kate has a license plate from Nebraska. Nebraska has a total density of 8.6 km's squared.

- # of people in the elevator in Exodus Part 2.

- In Exodus Part 2, a voice on the intercom says flight to gate 143 has been changed. 1 + 4 + 3 = 8.

- # of times Hurley says pee after he steps on the sea urchin in Hearts And Minds. [Thank you Orly]

- In Exodus Part 2, Sawyer sings Redemption Song by Bob Marley and the Wailer's while he's on the raft. The song is from their 8th CD, Uprising. [Thank you Orly]

- # of golf clubs Jin is playing with in ...In Translation. [Thank you Amos]

- # on the bottle of hair dye that Kate uses in Born To Run. [Thank you Amos]

- # of monitors in the Oceanic computer display in the airport. [Thank you Rodrigo]

- # of pieces you see in the finale, when the Australian cop holds up his mug to show sawyer he broke it. [Thank you Dude]

- # of weeks it had been since Susan heard from Michael after his accident. [Thank you Stevie]





15


- # of members on Danielle's research team.

- # on whiskey bottle that Sawyer and Christian drink from.

- # of hours Boone flew to rescue his sister "15 hours, I just spent 15 hours on a plane".

- # of kilometers to nearest town from the Australian farm.

- Sun was supposed to leave the airport at 11:15.

- Hurley won 156 million dollars.

- Locke's Mom's weight was 115 pounds.

- 15347 Ocean Avenue is an address on the papers about Locke's Mother.

- 584-243-15 appears on the papers about Locke's Mother.

- The papers on Locke's Mother show that she was born on the 15th of October.

- The numbers 12015 appear on one of the plane's meters.

- 31803-A appears on the papers about Locke's Mother. 3 + 1 + 8 + 0 + 3 = 15.

- The number 555 appears multiple times on the papers about Locke's Mother. 5 + 5 + 5 = 15.

- The number sequence 4065434-87 appear on the papers about Locke's Mother. 8 + 7 = 15.

- The last 2 digits of Locke's license plate is 8 and 7. 8 + 7 = 15.

- Sawyer buys a compact 357 handgun from a man in Australia. 3 + 5 + 7 = 15.

- Randy tells Locke he needs the reports in by noon, not 12:15.

- In Special it shows a triangle on Danielle's maps. There are 3 degrees for the angles. 36Ί, 38Ί and 41Ί, when added = 115Ί.

- While Locke is telling Boone the Michelangelo story, he says "3 years later that block of marble was the statue of David." 365 days a year x 3 = 1095. 1 + 0 + 9 + 5 = 15.

- Sawyer had to be at the meeting for 3:30. The woman says it's 3:28. 3 + 2 + 8 = 13. 2 minutes left, 13 + 2 = 15.

- In the Pilot Jack tells Kate he was only going to give the fear 5 seconds to take over. Later on, Kate is shown counting to 5 while hiding from the "Monster". 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 15.

- Kate's license plate was DPN 924A. 9 + 2 + 4 = 15.

- Kate's license plate was 7 - C153M. 15 appears.

- When Kate and Tom are in the kitchen there is a clock in the background showing 1:50 AM.

- Hurley said his Grampa Tito worked 3 jobs, for 52 years, and he's 70 years old. 70 - 52 - 3 = 15. [Thank you Daniel]

- Jack asks Ana why she's drinking tequila and tonics at 10 to noon. 11:50 AM.

- The marshal said he was chasing Kate for 3 years. 3 x 365 = 1095 days. 1 + 0 + 9 + 5 = 15.

- Shannon says she doesn't want to sit near a crying baby for the next 15 hours.

- Hurley jokingly says he thinks TV dinners from the 1950's are in inside the hatch. 1 + 9 + 5 + 0 = 15.

- The lady at the desk in the airport looks up the information for Hurley's flight. On the computer screen it says the departure time is 14:15.

- Michael tells Sawyer the raft is 15 miles offshore.

- In Exodus when Sun is eating lunch with Jin the time on her watch appears to be 11:15 [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- In The Pilot, the pilot's watch says 11:50 [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- # of times Michael chops the piece of wood in House Of The Rising Sun while Sun is watching him in the jungle. [Thank you David]

- In Confidence Man, Sawyer had a bicentennial stamp on his letter commemorating America's declaration of independence. It was from Knoxville Tennessee. Knoxville was founded in 1791, 15 years after America's independence in 1776. [Thank you Knife Cut]

- Rose mentions she is from the Bronx, New York. According to the United States Census Bureau, the Bronx has 15.4 square miles of water.

- Scott said he worked in Santa Cruz, California. According to the United States Census Bureau, Santa Cruz has a total area of 15.6 square miles.

- # of people on the beach when Kate confesses to being a fugitive in Born To Run.

- The Colorado license plate in Kate's trunk, shown in Born To Run, was NUR-153.

- In Special, Walt says they should be studying birds of Egypt. Egypt is ranked the 15th most populated country.

- In Born To Run, there is a license plate in Kate's trunk from Michigan. Michigan is ranked the 15th state by density.

- In Born To Run, Kate has a license plate from Colorado. Colorado's average rainfall is 15 inches per year.

- Sayid's watch reads 10:15 when he gives Michael the plane's radar emitter in Exodus Part 1.

- Sun's watch reads 11:15 when giving Jin the list of English words spelled out phonetically in Exodus Part 1.

- In Walkabout, Locke says that the boar's weight is 100-150 pounds. [Thank you Orly]

- Los Angeles, the city where the plane was scheduled to land, is governed by a 15 member city council. [Thank you Orly]


16


- # of years Danielle's distress signal has been looping.

- # of weeks since someone won the lottery before Hurley.

- # of years since Sam and Lenny heard the numbers.

- # on the numerical die in the backgammon game.

- Jack, Kate, and Charlie found the pilot 16 hours after the crash.

- Age of patient of Jack's first solo procedure.

- Jack told the lady at the airport desk he had to land in LAX in 16 hours to bury his father & flight was 16 hours.

- The 4 dotted dice in backgammon game are on 4, 6, 2, 4. When added = 16.

- Sawyer got $160,000 from the girls husband as part of the scam.

- Locke's Mom lives at 2248 Greenwood Avenue. 2 + 2 + 4 + 8 = 16.

- The address 1258 Bendix Avenue appears on the papers about Locke's Mother. 1 + 2 + 5 + 8 = 16.

- Locke's license plate is 2ABM487. If you take just the letters ABM, and give them a numerical value for where they stand in the alphabet, A = 1 B = 2 M = 13, 1 + 2 + 13 = 16.

- Four 4's on Sarah's t-shirt. 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 16.

- The taxi cab a woman gets out of in Do No Harm is numbered 691. 6 + 9 + 1 = 16.

- There is a poster on the wall of the pool hall in Confidence Man, the date is June 16th.

- The price on Walt's comic book in Chile is $1,600.00

- The CIA woman tells Sayid it's been 7 years since he's left Iraq. "6 months here, 3 months there". 7 + 6 + 3 = 16.

- The license plate on the truck Sayid and Essam were in was ALK 125. A = 1 L = 12 K = 11. Then the 1 2 5. The total for the letters' side is 24. The total for the numbers' side (1 + 2 + 5) is 8. And 24 - 8 = 16.

- The license plate on the second truck that Sayid and Essam get into was MRL 724. M = 13 R = 18 L = 12. 1 + 3 + 1 + 8 + 1 + 2 = 16.

- Kate's license plate was 7 - C153M. 7 + 1 + 5 + 3 = 16.

- Tom's license plate was 394 - GC2. 3 + 9 + 4 = 16.

- # of years since Kate and Tom buried the time capsule until she took the flight.

- Kate's license plate was 7 - C153M. If you take just the letters. C & M. C = 3 M = 13. 3 + 13 = 16.

- Danielle says the black smoke appeared 5 kilometers inland. 1 kilometer = 3280 feet. 3280 x 5 = 16,400 feet.

- The Black Rock ship in the jungle has the city Portsmouth written on the back. Portsmouth New Hampshire was founded in 1623. 1623 is in the direct order from the number sequence 4 8 15 16 23 42.

- Sawyer was reading Hurley's letter to home and said he left his mom 160 million dollars.

- Hurley gives the guy on the scooter $1,600 dollars for it.

- Sun's sandwich in the airport is $3.49. 3 + 4 + 9 = 16. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- They were 1,000 miles off course. 1,000 miles = 1,609.44 kilometers. [Thank you Knife Cut]

- Walt's birthday is August 24th. 24 - 8 = 16. [Thank you David]

- Hurley owned a sneaker company. The term sneaker was first used in 1916 by the US Rubber Company for the Keds brand, because rubber soles made the shoes quiet.

- # of pictures on the hospital wall in Special when Susan tells Michael that Brian wants to adopt Walt. [Thank you Amos]

- In Born To Run, Kate has a license plate from Colorado. Colorado has a total density of 16.01 km's squared.

- In Born To Run, Kate has a license plate from Ohio. Ohio has a total area of 116,096 km's squared.

- In Born To Run, Kate has a license plate from Nebraska. Nebraska is the 16th ranked state by area.

- # of volume bars on the television when Michael asks Walt to turn it down in Exodus Part 1.

- # of times Walt shouts "Dad!" before the raft explodes in Exodus Part 2.

- # of times Mark Silverman gets hit on the school grounds before Jack gets up to help in White Rabbit. [Thank you Orly]

- In Born To Run, the car that Kate crashes into has the license plate 614-GJ5. 6 + 1 + 4 + 5 = 16. [Thank you Amos]


23


- # of times Jack hits Charlie on the chest while performing CPR before Kate tells him to stop.

- # of times we hear Jin hit the axe on the raft.

- # that appears on the waist measure that the tuxedo guy has around his neck.

- The reward for turning Kate in is $23,000.

- The digits 23 appear as part of a pin number on one of the crates found inside the drug plane.

- The digits 23 appear on the license plate that hit Locke in Deus Ex Machina.

- When Michael gives Jin the watch back in House Of The Rising Sun, the minute hand is on 23.

- The letter that Sawyer wrote has a seal on the back titled America's Bicentennial Knoxville Tennessee 1976. 1976 when added = 23.

- The watch on Jack's wrist when signaturing the papers his Dad gave him in All The Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues has the minute hand on 23.

- The watch on Sun's father's wrist when signing a paper in ...In Translation has the minute hand on 23.

- Driveshaft is # 234 on the jukebox.

- A column appears on the papers about Locke's Mother. 555-0170. When added = 23.

- Locke's Dad said he wasn't supposed to be there until 12. Locke said "I thought you said 11" 11 + 12 = 23.

- The transceiver from the plane's model number is ABT-520. A = 1 B = 2 T = 20. 1 + 2 + 20 = 23.

- There is a poster of the wall at the pool hall in Confidence Man, the date is May 23rd.

- Kate's license plate was 7 - C153M. C = 3rd letter in the alphabet, M = 13th. 7 + 3 + 1 + 5 + 3 + 1 + 3 = 23.

- When Michael looks at the clock in the hotel room it displays 5:23 AM.

- Jack's seat number was 23B.

- The Black Rock ship in the jungle has the city Portsmouth written on the back. Portsmouth New Hampshire was founded in 1623. 1623 is in the direct order from the number sequence 4 8 15 16 23 42.

- The Black Rock ship in the jungle has the city Portsmouth written on the back. Portsmouth New Hampshire has a population of 23,100 people.

- Right after Claire's baby is taken Charlie covers his mouth in shock. The time on his watch when he does this is 7:23 PM.

- Hurley's hotel room was on floor 23.

- Hurley looks up at a sign in the airport that says gates 14 thru 23.

- Hurley's flight took off from gate 23.

- Michael and Walt were sitting in row 23 on the airplane.

- When they are at the caves Jack says 46 people need to drink about 1/2 a gallon of water everyday. 46 x .5 = 23 gallons of water everyday needed. [Thank you Adam]

- In The Moth when Charlie shows up at Liam's house he is wearing a ring with the letters DS. D = 4th letter of the alphabet. S = 19th. 4 + 19 = 23.

- In Deus Ex Machina when the camera focuses on the Mouse Trap game, at the moment the mouse is being caught you can see the numbers 23 on two different sides of the board. [Thank you David]

- # of weeks into the 16th year that the french signal has been repeating. The math is involved and intricate but amazing. Sayid said 1-7-2-9-4-5-3-3 was the number of interations. He said it was roughly 30 seconds long. The interation can repeat 2 times per minute, and there have been 17,294,533 of them. So divide the number of interations by 2 for minutes. = 8647266.5 Divide by 60 for hours. = 144121.1083 Divide by 24 for days. = 6005.0461805 Divide by 365 for years. = 16.4521813 etc. So 16 years. Now subtract the 16 years and you get: = .4521813 Multiply by 365 you get: = 165.046 days. Subtract four days for the four leap years that weren't covered when you divided by 365. (2004, 2000, 1996, 1992) you get: = 161 days. 161.046 days divided by 7. you get: = 23.00 weeks. [Thank you Knife Cut]

- In ...In Translation Michael mentions the Flatiron Building that is in New York to Walt. He says it inspired him. The Flatiron Building was built on 23rd Street, Fifth Avenue, and Broadway. Because it was built on 23rd Street it is also responsible for creating the phrase "23 skidoo". [Thank you Knife Cut]

- Locke says he worked in Tustin, California. Tustin, California is located at 33°44'23" North.

- Walt's mom, Susan, moved to Amsterdam to study international law. Amsterdam is located in the Netherlands. The Netherlands declared their independence from Spain on May 23, 1568.

- In Born To Run, we can see a license plate in Kate's trunk that is from Wisconsin. Wisconsin is the 23rd largest state by area.

- In Special, Susan tells Michael she is moving to Italy with Brian. Italy is ranked the 23rd most populated country.

- In Special, Susan tells Michael she is moving to Italy with Brian. Italy has a total area of 301,230 km's squared. - In Walkabout, when Claire is holding the memorial service she mentions someone and says they were sitting in seat 23C. - In Born To Run, Kate has a license plate from Ohio. Ohio has a total area of 116,096 km's squared. The total sum of all the numbers in 116,096 equals 23. [Thank you NinjaDude]

- A column appears on the papers about Locke's Mother. 555-0170. 5 + 5 + 5 + 0 + 1 + 7 + 0 = 23. [Thank you Slick]

- The sum of Oceanic 815. [Thank you Stevie]


42


- # of spaces on a game of Connect 4.

- # of numbers on the papers from Danielle. There were 7 rows of 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42.

- # that appears on the waist measure that the tuxedo guy has around his neck.

- Claire was 6 weeks late when she found out she was pregnant 6 weeks = 42 days.

- The book number 742 appears behind the husband looking to adopt Claire's baby in Raised By Another.

- The nurse who talks to Michael in Special is wearing a watch, the minute hand is on 42.

- Jack's watch had the minute hand set on 42.

- Sayid's watch in the Pilot Part 2 has it's minute hand set on 42.

- There are two dice in the backgammon game. The highest number on a die is 6. 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 21. 21 x 2 = 42.

- The license plate on the farmer's car had the letters VHL. V = 22 H = 8 L = 12. 22 + 8 + 12 = 42.

- There are 5 balls shown on the pool table in Confidence Man. 2, 6, 8, 12 and 14. When added 2 + 6 + 8 + 12 + 14 = 42.

- Ana's seat number was 42F.

- The lady at the desk in the airport looks up in the information for Hurley's flight. On the computer screen it says the arrival time in Los Angeles will be 10:42.

- Hurley's license plate in Exodus was TX 327. 3 x 2 x 7 = 42. [Thank you Amol]

- Four, eight, fifteen, sixteen, twenty-three, forty-two. If you count the letters in each spelled out number, it's 4 + 5 + 7 + 7 + 11 + 8 = 42. [Thank you Lyle]

- In Solitary, Danielle tells Sayid her and the science team were 3 days out from Tahiti. In 1842 the kingdom of Tahiti was declared a French protectorate.

- Rose mentions she is from the Bronx, New York. According to the United States Census Bureau, the Bronx has 42.0 square miles of land.

- In Born To Run we can see a license plate in Kate's trunk that is from Wisconsin. Wisconsin is located at 42°30'N.

- In Born To Run, Kate has a license plate from Nebraska. Nebraska is the 42nd ranked state by density.

- Sawyer is seen reading the book Watership Down. In 2003, Watership Down was voted the 42nd greatest book of all time. [Thank you Orly]

- # of seating rows on the plane. [Thank you Orly]

- In Born To Run when the camera focuses on Joanna's passport we see 42. [Thank you Amos]

- A column appears on the papers about Locke's Mother. 555-0170 is a telephone number and 555-0125 is another telephone number that also appears. 555-0170 & 555-0121. 5 + 5 + 5 + 0 + 1 + 7 + 0 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 0 + 1 + 2 + 1 = 42. [Thank you Slick]


815


- # of the safety deposit box that Kate wanted to get into.

- # of the issue for Entertainment Weekly that LOST is on the cover of.

- Oceanic flight # 815.

- The copier's Charlie was trying to sell were model # C-815.

- When Claire had her dream about the baby being taken, the flight number of the plane hanging from the mobile was 815.

- The airdate for Numbers was 3/2. When added = 5. 5, and episode 18. 815.

- Hurley's lottery ticket contained the sequence 815.

- The hatch has 815 in it's sequence of numbers.

- 8 & 15 were the aisle numbers for the regulation & Nerf footballs.

- 564815 appears on the papers about Locke's Mom.

- Jack's watch when flipped and mirrored has the time 8:15.

- The boots that Kate takes from the dead person in the Pilot Part 1 has 815 on them. [Thank you Jo Jaalla]

- Sayid is walking by a building in The Greater Good. The building has the numbers 815 on the door.

- Kate and Tom buried the time capsule on August 15 1989. (8/15).

- When the cop in the police station lays down Sawyer's plane ticket, we can see on Sawyer's file it says ID No. 248-15 with some more numbers after the 815.

- Charlie has a tattoo on his shoulder with the lyrics "living is easy with eyes closed". This is from The Beatles song Strawberry Fields Forever. The song Strawberry Fields Forever was released on The Beatles' 15th US CD and was track number 8. 8/15. [Thank you Elise]

- There were Virgin Mary statues inside the drug plane found by Locke and Boone. Virgin Mary's Feast Of Assumption is celebrated on August 15th. 8/15. [Thank you Anne]

- Walt's mom, Susan, moved to Amsterdam to study international law. Amsterdam is located in the Netherlands. The Kingdom of the Netherlands was formed in 1815, consisting of the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg.

- Sun and Jin are Korean. South Korea's independence day is August 15th (8/15), 1945.

- In Born To Run, after Tom is shot the camera focuses in on the toy plane. Near the toy plane we can see a baseball with the numbers 815 written on it.

- Sun and Jin are Korean. The Republic of Korea was established on August 15th (815), 1948.


MIXED


- 48 plane crash survivors. 4 & 8, the first two numbers from the number sequence.

- Boone's shirt with the Chinese symbols stood for 84. 4 & 8. The number of survivors and also the first two numbers in the sequence. [Thank you indilime]

- If you add 4815162342 and Hurley's 156 million you get: 4 + 8 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 6 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 2 + 1 + 5 + 6 = 48. 4 & 8 and the first two numbers of the sequence.

- The Oceanic Airlines logo contains 16 red dots, surrounding 4 circles, which make up the "O" in Oceanic. Which if combined with the word "airlines" makes 15 letters. "Airlines" itself is 8 letters.

- If you add up the numbers, 4 + 8 + 15 + 16 + 23 + 42 = 108, and subtract that from Hurley's net worth ( 156 - 108 = 48 ). 4 & 8 and the first two numbers from the sequence, also the number of plane crash survivors.

- The digits 48 appear in Locke's license plate. 4 & 8. The first two numbers of the sequence and the number of plane crash survivors.

- Locke's Mom lives at 2248 Greenwood Avenue. 4 & 8. The first two numbers of the sequence and the number of plane crash survivors.

- 2 columns appear on the papers about Locke's Mother. 555-0121 and 555-0170. 0121 1 + 2 + 1 = 4. 0170 1 + 7 = 8. 4 & 8. The first 2 numbers of the sequence and the number of plane crash survivors.

- The number 48 appears as part of a pin number on one of the crates inside of the drug plane. 4 & 8. The first two numbers from the sequence. Also the number of survivors.

- The nanny that Walt has in Special is wearing a watch while handing a box to Michael, the minute hand is on 48. 4 & 8. The first two numbers from the sequence. Also the number of survivors.

- Sawyer is seen reading the book Watership Down. Episode 19 was titled Deus Ex Machina. A chapter of the book Watership Down is titled "Dea Ex Machina", that chapter is 48. 4 & 8. The first two numbers of the sequence and the number of plane crash survivors.

- 300 pounds of C4 explosives were stolen. There are 16 ounces in a pound. 16 x 300 = 4800 ounces. 4 & 8. The first two numbers of the sequence. Also the number of survivors.

- When reading off the magazine's description of a car, Sawyer mentions a lot of numbers. 32 valve V8 engine. 400 horsepower. 350 pounds. 4.4 liter powerplant. And 6 speed transmission. 32 + 8 + 400 + 350 + 4.4 + 6 = 800.4. 4 & 8. The first two numbers of the sequence and the original number of survivors.

- Hurley's hotel room number was 2342. The last two numbers from the set.

- On the dashboard in Hurley's car the speed goes from 16 KPH, 15 KPH, 8 KPH, and 4 KPH. It also displays 42 KM and 23ΊC. This uses 4 8 15 16 23 & 42.

- Riding through the airport on the scooter Hurley passes girls with soccer uniforms on. They're standing side by side and the numbers on their jerseys are 4 8 15 16 23 & 42.

- When Claire visits the psychic she tells him she found out about the baby 2 days ago. 2 days is 48 hours. 4 & 8. The first two numbers from the sequence. Also the number of survivors.

- When Charilie covers his mouth with his hands in shock over the baby being taken, his watch is on the wrong way. The stem is facing his elbow not his fingers. The time would be 8:23. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- In The Pilot when Hurley is laying on the beach with Jack and Claire after the engine explodes, his watch is on 8:23. [Thank you Dingy Diva]

- Rose mentions she is from the Bronx, New York. The Bronx is located at 40°42'15" (42 and 15) North.

- There were Virgin Mary statues inside of the plane that Locke and Boone found. The Virgin Mary's Feast of Assumption is celebrated every year on August 15th (8/15) as a Catholic holiday. Rose is from the Bronx, New York. There is a church in the Bronx called Our Lady of Assumption. It is located on 1634 (16) Mahan Avenue and was founded in 1923 (23).

- In Born To Run, after Tom is shot, the camera focuses in on the toy plane, and we see a Minnie Mouse toy on the car seat next to the plane. Minnie Mouse is a fictional character of the Mickey Mouse universe featured in animated cartoons, comic strips and comic book by The Walt Disney Company. The comic strip story The Gleam, was published from January 19 to May 2, 1942 (42), by Merrill De Maris and Floyd Gottfredson. They first gave her full name as Minerva Mouse. Minerva has since been a recurring alias for her. Minerva was a Roman goddess of crafts and wisdom. The Romans celebrated her festival from March 19 to 23 (23). The earlier comic strip story, Mr Slicker and the Egg Robbers, published from September 22 (this is the exact day Lost premiered!) to December 26, 1930. Mickey and Minnie debuted together in Plane Crazy, first released on May 15 (15), 1928. Their next appearance in The Karnival Kid, May 23 (23), 1929, casted Mickey as a hot dog vendor and Minnie as a carnival Shimmy Dancer. Her final appearance for the year was in Wild Waves, first released on August 15 (8/15), 1929. She spends a day at the beach with Mickey. Their activities of singing and dancing are soon interrupted when Minnie is swept by a wave into the sea. She panics and seems to start drowning. Mickey uses a row boat to rescue her and return her to the shore but Minnie is still visibly shaken from the experience. Mickey starts singing the tune of Rocked in the Cradle of the Deep, a maritime ballad written in 1832 by Emma Hart Willard, who lived from February 23 (23), 1787 (1 + 7 + 8 + 7 = 23) to April 15 (15), 1870 (1 + 8 + 7 + 0 = 16).

- In The Moth, when Sayid turns on the radio transmitter it displays 4 bars, then it goes up to 15 bars. [Thank you Orly]

- In Born To Run, on Tom's refrigerator, there is a magnet of a piano. It has 15 black keys and 23 white keys.

- The date of the first human habitation of Australia is estimated to be between 42,000 - 48,000 (42 and 48) years ago. [Thank you Orly]

- In Walkabout, when Claire is holding the memorial service she mentions that one couple had overdue video charges for the movies Willy Wonka and The Little Princess. Willy Wonka was written by Roald Dahl, who was born in 1916 and died on November 23, 1990.

Baby Lee
01-19-2006, 12:49 PM
Anyone get the sense that, with the Others making their big face-to-face show, that they're finally getting close to something the Others are worried about them finding out about. I mean, they've stayed to the shadows for 50 days.

Baby Lee
01-19-2006, 03:43 PM
Dwight's Theories (http://blogs.nbc.com/office/archives/archive_2006-w02.html)

Cross show humor. hee!!!

Bearcat
01-19-2006, 04:47 PM
"How long do you think it would take to train an army?"

Now THAT'S what I'm talk'n 'bout.

Lets see us some Adabesi/Sayeed/Sawyer/Locke ass kicking and names on the boom stick.

That's what I thought.... 50 days... it's about time. Of course, it'll be 10 episodes before the next interaction, but I'm willing to wait after last night's episode.

Big Dog
01-19-2006, 05:04 PM
So, last night I watched Lost later on after recording it on the dvr and was surprised to have it cut off with what appeared to be just a minute or two left...can anyone fill me in?

In reading the posts thus far, it seems I missed some reference to an army?

Thanks!

Baby Lee
01-19-2006, 05:08 PM
So, last night I watched Lost later on after recording it on the dvr and was surprised to have it cut off with what appeared to be just a minute or two left...can anyone fill me in?

In reading the posts thus far, it seems I missed some reference to an army?

Thanks!
Jack [along with the search party] returned to the beach.
Jack went over to Ana-Lucia, sitting by herself with the dog.
Said "Heard you killed one of the others."
"Yeah."
"Sayeed tells me you are a cop."
"Was a cop."
"How long you think it'd take to train an army?"

Glances exchanged.

Schooomp. Credits.

Big Dog
01-19-2006, 06:44 PM
Missed the last 3 lines...lol!


Thanks!

Frazod
01-19-2006, 10:56 PM
Just got done watching last night's episode. These people are starting to get STUPID. Like teenage bimbo in a horror movie stupid. And it's pissing me off. Deeply. I don't like stupid.

I understand Michael going nuts. But when it comes time to find him, you (1) GET SAYEED TO GO WITH YOU (2) probably get Ana Lucia and Mr. Echo to go as well, (3) give Kate a gun what the hell she knows how to use it (4) when you hear gunshots DON'T START F#CKING YELLING and (5) when you're up against an unknown enemy that has knowledge of the terrain, and it's dark, DON'T LIGHT F#CKING TORCHES.

Jack, Sawyer, Locke and Kate should all be f#cking DEAD right now. :shake:

If there's much more stupid shit like this, I'm done.

Psyko Tek
01-19-2006, 11:49 PM
you're right fraz
it was unbelievably stupid and out of character

they've been hiding from monsters and others for 50 days you think they'ld have learned something

Frazod
01-20-2006, 12:00 AM
you're right fraz
it was unbelievably stupid and out of character

they've been hiding from monsters and others for 50 days you think they'ld have learned something

Yep.

I hope this dumbassery doesn't continue.

tomahawk kid
01-26-2006, 09:03 AM
What did everyone think of last night's episode?

Any ideas where Hurley remembers Libby from?

Dartgod
01-26-2006, 09:27 AM
I thought that was a pretty lame episode.

And when is Hurley going to start losing weight? It's been 50 days now, you'd think he might drop a few pounds.

KCTitus
01-26-2006, 09:29 AM
After the prior two weeks a bit of a snoozer. Im not sure I learned anything about Charlie that I didnt already know.

The oddest thing, IMO, was why Locke kept the statues and put them in the safe with the guns.

Warrior5
01-26-2006, 09:30 AM
that the writers are just making stuff up as they go. My son now sounds like a broken record; "How stupid can they be? Why don't they stay in buddy teams since everyone knows there are armed men and smoke monsters in the jungle?"

The flashbacks every 5 minutes are also getting old.

They have just about "Lost" me as a viewer.

Dartgod
01-26-2006, 09:34 AM
The oddest thing, IMO, was why Locke kept the statues and put them in the safe with the guns.I wondered about that too, but just assumed that it was for medical reasons. How do you make morphine from heroin?

Most likely, though, it is for other reasons. Reasons that we will learn about sometime next season. :rolleyes:

Chiefnj
01-26-2006, 09:39 AM
Last nights episode didn't really get very far or add much to the main plot. Quite honestly, I don't care about Charlie's past. It seems that Claire and Aaron have taken a back seat on the show. I thought that her original flashback episode with the psychic was one of the better ones. I'm surprised they haven't followed up on it yet.

As far as Locke and the statues go, I think that Locke believes that the statues are on the island for a reason, thus he doesn't want to destroy them. It was also somewhat out of character for Locke to beat down another castaway. He's usually a man of reason.

KCTitus
01-26-2006, 09:46 AM
As far as Locke and the statues go, I think that Locke believes that the statues are on the island for a reason, thus he doesn't want to destroy them. It was also somewhat out of character for Locke to beat down another castaway. He's usually a man of reason.

There were a lot of 'out of character' things about the episode. Ekko's marking of the trees 'because I like them', Charlie trying to burn the camp down and get the baby, Locke beating down on Charlie and Locke saying he would destory the statues only to keep them and change the combination again.

cadmonkey
01-26-2006, 09:47 AM
Is this season half over? I was thinking back and realized how much has actually been done this season.

Chiefnj
01-26-2006, 09:49 AM
I forgot to add, at the end of the episode they didn't say "stay tuned for scenes from next week's episode" they said "on an upcoming Lost..."

Does this mean there is another hiatus for new episodes?

siberian khatru
01-26-2006, 09:54 AM
Last night: Yawn.

Yet, predictable. The previous ep ended with that thrilling call by Jack to train an army. Which I knew would be resolved sometime around the first manned mission to Mars.

And now it's probably going to be on hold for awhile. Wouldn't it have been better to take a break on the previous note, training an army?

WTF do I watch this show?

beer bacon
01-26-2006, 10:15 AM
that the writers are just making stuff up as they go. My son now sounds like a broken record; "How stupid can they be? Why don't they stay in buddy teams since everyone knows there are armed men and smoke monsters in the jungle?"

The flashbacks every 5 minutes are also getting old.

They have just about "Lost" me as a viewer.

The flashbacks are a core part of the show. You should probably stop watching it if you hate them.

I thought it was good. It wasn't as good as last week's episode, but not every episode can be as good as that one. It is interesting that Locke is acting so different now. For most characters I would say the way he acted towards Charlie throughout the episode with the resultant pummeling would be just about right, but for Locke and his philosophy, it seemed way out of character. That combined with the preview makes me think that Locke is up to something.

beer bacon
01-26-2006, 10:17 AM
I forgot to add, at the end of the episode they didn't say "stay tuned for scenes from next week's episode" they said "on an upcoming Lost..."

Does this mean there is another hiatus for new episodes?

Next wednesday is February 1st. It is the day before sweeps start, so they are showing the episode "Numbers" from season one next week, and then back to new episodes the week after.

Guru
01-26-2006, 10:25 AM
This show would be easier to follow if they would just do a non-stop season like 24. Taking a week or two off every 2-3 weeks is getting annoying.

Mile High Mania
01-26-2006, 02:29 PM
The show needs more Sayid (or Sayeed, however you spell it). Locke and Ecko appear to be kindred spirits... I guess there's going to be a showdown between Jack and Sawyer over Kate at some point.

The whole Charlie deal with the baby was boring to me. Looks like the Others capture a person or two in the next real episode.

There's a lot of dragging, but I've invested all this time into it that I'll likely continue to watch it. However, it has lost a lot of it's "wow factor" from last season.

So, now we have the Others with Walt... the french chic, the dude from the race around the world and Michael out and about in the jungle.

We haven't seen much in the way of freaking animals like the shark or polar bear in a while either.

Baby Lee
01-26-2006, 02:43 PM
When Charlie had his dream with his mom and Claire as saints, did anyone flash back to the Seinfeld episode with "You've got to see the Bayy-Beee!!!"

Bearcat
01-26-2006, 05:26 PM
Of course, it'll be 10 episodes before the next interaction, but I'm willing to wait after last night's episode.

Only 9 to go :)

I don't mind that it's not nonstop action... I like the flashbacks, for the most part, but all the who-likes-who is getting a bit too sitcom for me. I did like Lucia's "you hittin' that?" to go against Hurley/what's her name's tip-toeing.

ct
01-27-2006, 12:37 PM
What did everyone think of last night's episode?

Any ideas where Hurley remembers Libby from?

She's a psychiatrist, he used to be in a psych ward.

JakeT
01-27-2006, 12:45 PM
She's a psychiatrist, he used to be in a psych ward.

good call - I've always been thinking she was one of the others. She also got really nervous when Hurley asked her where he knew her from

I guess that was the highlight of this weeks episode

every week I wonder whether I should remove this Lost thing from my tivo but for some strange reason I keep going

BigMeatballDave
01-27-2006, 12:59 PM
When Charlie had his dream with his mom and Claire as saints, did anyone flash back to the Seinfeld episode with "You've got to see the Bayy-Beee!!!"
ROFL No, I didn't. But, that is ****ing hilarious!

banyon
01-27-2006, 01:26 PM
good call - I've always been thinking she was one of the others. She also got really nervous when Hurley asked her where he knew her from

Yeah, and that Hurley stepping on her foot thing was a load of s***. Hurley was the last one on the plane and she was in the tail! I've heard some speculation that she might've been at the psych ward, but as another patient, and a compulsive liar to boot. Either way, it will make for an interesting development.

tomahawk kid
01-27-2006, 01:43 PM
Yeah, and that Hurley stepping on her foot thing was a load of s***. I've heard some speculation that she might've been at the psych ward, but as another patient, and a compulsive liar to boot. Either way, it will make for an interesting development.

Was Hurley being in the psyche ward part of his flash back episode?

I must have missed that.

banyon
01-27-2006, 02:25 PM
Was Hurley being in the psyche ward part of his flash back episode?
I must have missed that.

They never directly say that he was a patient, but you infer it from a couple of things. First, when he visits the ward to see the guy who mutters the numbers to himself, the staff says that it's good to see him again, but in kind of an uneasy way. He also makes a big deal of of it when someone (Charlie I think) calls him crazy. It upsets him more than such an offhand remark should. He's also very relieved when Rousseau confirms that he's not crazy because she says the numbers ruined her life too. (I think most of this was in "Numbers" which re-airs next week...maybe that's not a coincidence that they chose that specific show to rerun)

I think it's more likely that Libby was a patient. That would explain why they only had incidental contact and Hurley didn't particulary notice or remember her. If she had been a doctor, particularly his doctor, it seems like they'd know each other better. But like I said, either was is interesting.

ct
01-30-2006, 12:15 PM
They never directly say that he was a patient, but you infer it from a couple of things. First, when he visits the ward to see the guy who mutters the numbers to himself, the staff says that it's good to see him again, but in kind of an uneasy way. He also makes a big deal of of it when someone (Charlie I think) calls him crazy. It upsets him more than such an offhand remark should. He's also very relieved when Rousseau confirms that he's not crazy because she says the numbers ruined her life too. (I think most of this was in "Numbers" which re-airs next week...maybe that's not a coincidence that they chose that specific show to rerun)

I think it's more likely that Libby was a patient. That would explain why they only had incidental contact and Hurley didn't particulary notice or remember her. If she had been a doctor, particularly his doctor, it seems like they'd know each other better. But like I said, either was is interesting.

Hurley also mentioned to Jack that he was in a psych ward, when he was trying to tell Jack about the numbers. Definitely no coincidence that the 'Numbers ' episode will re-air before another new episode. Hurley and Libby are about to take center stage, along with I suspect Danielle and/or the computer/timer.

Yeah, and that Hurley stepping on her foot thing was a load of s***. Hurley was the last one on the plane and she was in the tail! I've heard some speculation that she might've been at the psych ward, but as another patient, and a compulsive liar to boot. Either way, it will make for an interesting development.

Good point about the seating arrangements. Only way Hurley steps on her foot is if she is up and moving around. Agree that it's a good possibility she was a patient, and is not really a psychiatrist.

Rausch
02-01-2006, 06:48 PM
Is there a new episode on this evening?...

arrowheadnation
02-01-2006, 07:22 PM
No...it's a repeat.

Chiefnj
02-09-2006, 08:21 AM
Bump if anyone still watches.

I enjoyed last nights episode as it put the characters back in character.

KCTitus
02-09-2006, 08:28 AM
Bump if anyone still watches.

I enjoyed last nights episode as it put the characters back in character.

Yeah, it was pretty good...but like the episode before, the best part was the previews for next week.

You think they let the clock get to zero?

Chiefnj
02-09-2006, 08:34 AM
Yeah, it was pretty good...but like the episode before, the best part was the previews for next week.

You think they let the clock get to zero?

I don't know. It seems like half the trailers for new episodes always show the clock at, or near zero. Could be. It is Jack's only element of power that he has left over Locke.

KCTitus
02-09-2006, 08:47 AM
I don't know. It seems like half the trailers for new episodes always show the clock at, or near zero. Could be. It is Jack's only element of power that he has left over Locke.

True...well, it was an interesting dynamic shift last night. Sawyer reverting to season 1 form and Charlie working with him as the 'bad guys' now. Looks like Charlie is headed back to the darkside. Definately gives room for more plot angles.

angel
02-09-2006, 09:15 AM
Yeah, it was pretty good...but like the episode before, the best part was the previews for next week.

You think they let the clock get to zero?
The preview showed it at zero

I'm still skeptical, though-- maybe it's Locke having a nightmare... my friends and I predicted that they wouldn't let it hit zero until the season finale, and then we'd have to wait until next season to find out what happens.

Baby Lee
02-09-2006, 09:24 AM
http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/img/90x94/characters/cytolliver.jpg
1. My my my, Miss Stubbs.

2. So where does the appearance of a younger, less worn Kate's mother, in the diner, put Sawyer's long con in the metastory?

3. Where's Locke's knife collection?

KevB
02-09-2006, 09:54 AM
http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/img/90x94/characters/cytolliver.jpg
1. My my my, Miss Stubbs.

2. So where does the appearance of a younger, less worn Kate's mother, in the diner, put Sawyer's long con in the metastory?

3. Where's Locke's knife collection?

Thanks for the Miss Stubbs reference....that was driving me crazy trying to come up with where I'd seen her before. Now I'm disappointed in myself for not remembering immediately.

keg in kc
02-09-2006, 09:56 AM
I'm starting to lose interest for some reason. Haven't missed an ep yet, but I can't remember half of last night's.

KevB
02-09-2006, 09:58 AM
Bump if anyone still watches.

I enjoyed last nights episode as it put the characters back in character.

Agreed. It was getting to the point that it seemed to be catering to the audiences' desire to "like" every character (except Charlie, who they turned into a raving lunatic).

Here's the part from last night's show that just didn't make sense. Jack is a relatively even keeled guy. How would he go from wanting guns to exact some revenge - to clearly having some reservations about who kidnapped Jin - to looking for blood? That line of thought for Jack just didn't fit.

KevB
02-09-2006, 09:59 AM
I'm starting to lose interest for some reason. Haven't missed an ep yet, but I can't remember half of last night's.

I was in that boat, very frustrated frankly.......but last night's ep raised it back up a notch.

Chiefnj
02-09-2006, 11:16 AM
Here's the part from last night's show that just didn't make sense. Jack is a relatively even keeled guy. How would he go from wanting guns to exact some revenge - to clearly having some reservations about who kidnapped Jin - to looking for blood? That line of thought for Jack just didn't fit.


I don't think Jack is even keeled at all. He's always extra intense. In flashbacks he's running stairs in stadiums because he's bothered at work, he takes on all the difficult and hopeless cases. On the island he's the first to run off half cocked to find Claire or Michael. He takes on all leadership roles without any thought - do an inventory of food and don't share any of it, he'll keep the key to the gun case, etc.

SithCeNtZ
02-09-2006, 12:25 PM
The pictures from last nights trailer show that the clock that hits zero does not have the same amount of digits as the clock they are resetting in the hatch.

ct
02-09-2006, 01:36 PM
http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/img/90x94/characters/cytolliver.jpg
1. My my my, Miss Stubbs.

...

L'il help here?

Baby Lee
02-09-2006, 01:42 PM
L'il help here?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0225332/

KevB
02-09-2006, 03:21 PM
I don't think Jack is even keeled at all. He's always extra intense. In flashbacks he's running stairs in stadiums because he's bothered at work, he takes on all the difficult and hopeless cases. On the island he's the first to run off half cocked to find Claire or Michael. He takes on all leadership roles without any thought - do an inventory of food and don't share any of it, he'll keep the key to the gun case, etc.

Even keeled is probably the wrong characterization. He perceives himself and thoughtful and fair. I think he tends to fly off the handle initially, as you stated above, but after some thought a cooler head prevails. I felt like his "after some thought" moment was the discussion with Ana Lucia about her possible involvement with the kidnapping. Having said all that, he may not have cooled off from his encounter with the others yet, and is still looking for any reason to light into them.

banyon
02-15-2006, 08:17 PM
WTF? The Dharma Initiative has their own brand of Ranch dressing?

ROFL

DMAC
02-15-2006, 09:09 PM
I knew something would happen to where nothing would happen with the timer:banghead:

KcMizzou
02-15-2006, 09:17 PM
I knew something would happen to where nothing would happen Kinda sums up the whole series.

DMAC
02-15-2006, 09:44 PM
Kinda sums up the whole series.
I was so excited...I mean, it was there. What was there, a bird, a rocket ship....?? Was there anything else?

Psyko Tek
02-15-2006, 10:04 PM
I was so excited...I mean, it was there. What was there, a bird, a rocket ship....?? Was there anything else?



no they look like egyptian hyroglyphics(sp) to me
saw the bird and obelisk

Fish
02-15-2006, 10:15 PM
Torture competition: Sayid vs. Bauer

Fairplay
02-15-2006, 10:19 PM
Screen shot


http://www.realmcrafter.com/media/lost.jpg

Guru
02-15-2006, 10:49 PM
Torture competition: Sayid vs. Bauer

Bauer wins hands down. Sayid let emotion into the equation.

Chiefnj
02-15-2006, 10:49 PM
Henry Gale, hot air balloon, from Minnesota.

Someone's been skipping down the yellow brick road.

Guru
02-15-2006, 10:50 PM
I knew something would happen to where nothing would happen with the timer:banghead:

That was crap. Made me want to turn it off when they allowed that to happen. Zero is zero damnit. :cuss:

KingPriest2
02-15-2006, 11:06 PM
I knew something would happen to where nothing would happen with the timer:banghead:


Go back and rewatch that part.

Machinery was starting up in the background and you did see the clock to override it he his ALT CRTl DEL and it brought it back i

If he didn't then something might have happened

So we still don't know what will happen because something might happen.

Guru
02-15-2006, 11:27 PM
Go back and rewatch that part.

Machinery was starting up in the background and you did see the clock to override it he his ALT CRTl DEL and it brought it back i

If he didn't then something might have happened

So we still don't know what will happen because something might happen.

I heard the machinery starting up. I wanted it to be over. The end of the numbers.

banyon
02-16-2006, 12:16 AM
Damn. He hit CTRL ALT DEL, just when they were about to hit a 7-BAR-7 jackpot.

ChiefsFanatic
02-16-2006, 01:31 AM
Henry Gale, hot air balloon, from Minnesota.

Someone's been skipping down the yellow brick road.

He should have been from Kansas. I doubt if anyone else caught that.

Good 'ol Uncle Henry.

How about the look in his eyes when Jack pulled Sayid off of him. Classic.

banyon
02-16-2006, 02:13 AM
Found this photo on the "Lost" site

pretty freaky. compare to the next post.

banyon
02-16-2006, 02:14 AM
See anything familiar?

Guru
02-16-2006, 03:03 AM
OK, so forget the buttons and let'em die. LOL

OmahaChief
02-16-2006, 06:34 AM
Along with Joannie Stubbs from Deadwood another classic HBO character showed up on Lost last night. Brother Justin from Carninvale was the army dude that made Sayid toture Tarik.

Mile High Mania
02-16-2006, 07:04 AM
That dude looked old - was he not the blonde headed cell mate of Sean Penn in the movie Bad Boys back in the 80s? The one that had the boom box blow up on him?

I think we're about to see the island (for the most part, the key players) turn on Jack. I like Sayid's character a lot.

Dartgod
02-16-2006, 07:29 AM
That dude looked old - was he not the blonde headed cell mate of Sean Penn in the movie Bad Boys back in the 80s? The one that had the boom box blow up on him?
Yep, same guy I think.

Did anyone else notice the picture of the girl he had? It sure looked like a very young Kate to me.

Baby Lee
02-16-2006, 07:31 AM
So, was the stare from Henry Gale as the armory door closed;
1. an indication that he is indeed an 'Other.'
or
2. just a reflection of how Sayid's beating him made him a new enemy?

I love how they walk the edge of what's fact and what's perception.

cadmonkey
02-16-2006, 07:48 AM
Torture competition: Sayid vs. Bauer


Sayid without a doubt. When he said the line "Something in me has always been able to do this. I am a Tourturer" made him a f*cking bad ass!

cadmonkey
02-16-2006, 07:54 AM
So, was the stare from Henry Gale as the armory door closed;
1. an indication that he is indeed an 'Other.'
or
2. just a reflection of how Sayid's beating him made him a new enemy?

I love how they walk the edge of what's fact and what's perception.

I have a feeling that he is an "other" but will never break and make the survivors, besides Sayid, believe his story. Jack will convince Looke to let him out and he'll f*ck up something.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was put in that trap on purpose to make his "I am alone" story seem more believable.

Fairplay
02-16-2006, 08:02 AM
What did that guy mean when he said he was in mining of the non-mettalic kind, or something like that.

Also those hieroglyph symbols on the wall supposively mean 'Cause to Die'. I read that on another board.

Also that whole frog thing with Sawyer was strange. Seems they walked a long ways just for him to kill it. Can the noise of those little critters go that far?

MOhillbilly
02-16-2006, 08:05 AM
but it is true what sayid said about every shovel full and where the dude buried his wife. shit like that is branded in your brain forever and sure as shit 2 weeks after.

cadmonkey
02-16-2006, 08:08 AM
but it is true what sayid said about every shovel full and where the dude buried his wife. shit like that is branded in your brain forever and sure as shit 2 weeks after.

when he wasa saying that I thought he was going to crack. Very proud to see he didn't let his emotions take over.

and yes, you would remember every shovel full out as well as every shovel full back in.

Kclee
02-16-2006, 08:12 AM
Yep, same guy I think.

Did anyone else notice the picture of the girl he had? It sure looked like a very young Kate to me.

Yep, wasn't his name Tweety? He was also in Shawshank.

ct
02-16-2006, 08:17 AM
That dude looked old - was he not the blonde headed cell mate of Sean Penn in the movie Bad Boys back in the 80s? The one that had the boom box blow up on him?

I think we're about to see the island (for the most part, the key players) turn on Jack. I like Sayid's character a lot.

Highlander

MOhillbilly
02-16-2006, 08:26 AM
when he wasa saying that I thought he was going to crack. Very proud to see he didn't let his emotions take over.

and yes, you would remember every shovel full out as well as every shovel full back in.

i thought he did kinda get alittle faraway and showed some signals that he isnt going to make it.

deadbabyseal
02-16-2006, 08:32 AM
Highlander
There can be only one.

Chiefnj
02-16-2006, 08:33 AM
Are we in for a bunch of damn repeats again?

At the end of the episode I watched they said "coming soon on Lost" not "next week on Lost".

cadmonkey
02-16-2006, 08:35 AM
Are we in for a bunch of damn repeats again?

At the end of the episode I watched they said "coming soon on Lost" not "next week on Lost".


the next new episode is March 1st. I think next week is the replay of the pilot episode

Chiefnj
02-16-2006, 08:37 AM
the next new episode is March 1st. I think next week is the replay of the pilot episode

The wimps are afraid to go up against American Idol, which by the way has some very impressive eye candy this year.

Dartgod
02-16-2006, 08:39 AM
the next new episode is March 1st. I think next week is the replay of the pilot episode
Dammit, I'm getting tired of this shit. Why in the f*** can they not show us more than three new episodes without two or three week breaks in between. That's the most infuriating thing about this show, IMO.

cadmonkey
02-16-2006, 08:44 AM
The wimps are afraid to go up against American Idol, which by the way has some very impressive eye candy this year.


Very much so!!! Nice looking crop this year.

ct
02-16-2006, 10:36 AM
Our boy from Minnesota has no accent, eh? Sayid is right on the $, this boy is lying.

From a friend who reads up on the Lost boards:

Henry Gale, Dorothy's uncle from Wizard of Oz. Oz himself who ended up in Oz when his air balloon was caught in a storm.

Henry Gale was also an important physicist in the first half of the 20th century. He worked in the fields of astrophysics and in magnetism. He died 11-16-42.

beer bacon
02-16-2006, 10:39 AM
The wimps are afraid to go up against American Idol, which by the way has some very impressive eye candy this year.

If God is just a meteor will impact directly on whatever forsaken building holds American Idol.

banyon
02-16-2006, 01:40 PM
Yep, same guy I think.

Did anyone else notice the picture of the girl he had? It sure looked like a very young Kate to me.

That wasn't the CO with the picture, it was just some soldier in the back of the truck escourting Sayid. Could be Kate though.

Baby Lee
02-16-2006, 01:41 PM
That was crap. Made me want to turn it off when they allowed that to happen. Zero is zero damnit. :cuss:
My longstanding hypothesis is that the ticker is an exercise in behavioral modification. And, in that vein, what happened last night was perfectly plausible.
You have these guys inputting numbers every 108 minutes. When there are a limited number [say, just Desmond, or just Desmond and his predecessor] of enterers, that keeps them from having a lot of free time to explore/discover/uncover.
There is no reason to enter the numbers, except for the warning. They're not maintaining anything. They're not protecting anything. They're just following orders.

Zero means zero is a false standard for one of two meanings.

If there really is something bad that is to happen, you'd want to make the missing of the entry window reversible for as long as possible. Things were whirring, noise was being made, something was transpiring. Entering the code stopped it.

If there isn't something bad about to happen [simply an experiment/control measure], you'd want to give the appearance of something bad pending, in the off-chance the subjects test the system and let it go to zero.

Think of it like when Pops threatened to use the belt on you. Sometimes he'd just mention the belt. Sometimes you pushed it, and he'd have to start unbuckling it. If you really pushed it, he'd take it off and crack it a bit. But his aim was to get you back into line.

Don't you think Locke et al are more convinced than ever that the numbers have to be entered?

"You should'a seen it, rumblin' and whirrin' and shakin and all these strange symbols. D@mned if I'll come close to letting that happen again."

banyon
02-16-2006, 01:45 PM
So, was the stare from Henry Gale as the armory door closed;
1. an indication that he is indeed an 'Other.'
or
2. just a reflection of how Sayid's beating him made him a new enemy?

I love how they walk the edge of what's fact and what's perception.

Given the "Henry Gale" Wizard of Oz connection, I think the guy might be the leader of the Others or of the Dharma Initiative. He would be the "man behind the curtain" so to speak.

The look was definitely Ethan-esque. On top of that, you could see that he really 1. wanted to know where he was (or how the Losties got in the damn hatch), and 2. Changed his persona quickly when he felt he might be able to get the advantage on Sayid, when he was asking if he had lost someone too. 3. He also seemed to know that Rousseau would kill him immediately.

But you are right. Those things being said, they still walked the tightrope and played it so that it could go the other way too.

banyon
02-16-2006, 01:49 PM
What did that guy mean when he said he was in mining of the non-mettalic kind, or something like that.

Also those hieroglyph symbols on the wall supposively mean 'Cause to Die'. I read that on another board.

Also that whole frog thing with Sawyer was strange. Seems they walked a long ways just for him to kill it. Can the noise of those little critters go that far?

Yeah he said he mined "non-metallic" metals. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-metal) (a lazy source), something's either a metal or it isn't, so that's BS.

The symbols are an imperative/causative, so it's more like "DIE!", the command.

I think the frog has to do with Walt somehow. He is trying to communicate with the Losties. He has some strange abilities like with the bird flying into the windows and stuff. Maybe he's in the underwater hatch, and that's why he appeared to be soaking wet to people in their visions.

Baby Lee
02-16-2006, 01:56 PM
Yeah he said he mined "non-metallic" metals. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-metal) (a lazy source), something's either a metal or it isn't, so that's BS.
Non-metallic MIN-ER-ALS.

banyon
02-16-2006, 02:07 PM
Non-metallic MIN-ER-ALS.

Yeah...that's what he said. :redface: oops.

keg in kc
02-16-2006, 02:10 PM
I thought last night's was actually one of the best in a while. It didn't seem like it was an hour long, for one thing; I really got into the story. 'course, I've always found Sayid's storyline to be one of the most interesting and Clancy Brown's one cool dude.

Baby Lee
02-16-2006, 02:16 PM
The references to Oz;

A reference to Australia's nickname?

A tip of the hat to Mr. Eko's and Michael's prior work?

Rausch
02-16-2006, 02:27 PM
That wasn't the CO with the picture, it was just some soldier in the back of the truck escourting Sayid. Could be Kate though.

It was Kate's "Dad" from the recruitment office...

Baby Lee
02-16-2006, 02:31 PM
It was Kate's "Dad" from the recruitment office...
The recruitment office where Sayid's picture was on the TV in the Background.

banyon
02-16-2006, 02:55 PM
why the hieroglyphs?

Does anyone think they are going to go all
historical/Masonic global conspiracy on us?

(i.e., the Dharma initiative has been working (and making ranch dressing) since Ancient Egypt)

MOhillbilly
02-16-2006, 02:56 PM
why the hieroglyphs?

Does anyone think they are going to go all
historical/Masonic global conspiracy on us?

Devil worshipers?

banyon
02-16-2006, 02:59 PM
Devil worshipers?

That might fit with the "antichrist" theory.

I don't think they are going that way though. Why let Aaron & Claire escape if that's true.

Of course it looks like the next episode will answer a lot of questions about what happened to Claire.

ct
02-16-2006, 03:43 PM
...
Also that whole frog thing with Sawyer was strange. Seems they walked a long ways just for him to kill it. Can the noise of those little critters go that far?

My guess is that it's a poisonous tree frog, so now Sawyer is gonna get sick. Here comes Jacko to the rescue, but only after a much drama queenish standoff, and thus ends Sawyer's brief run as Sheriff.

ct
02-16-2006, 03:46 PM
The references to Oz;

A reference to Australia's nickname?

A tip of the hat to Mr. Eko's and Michael's prior work?

Lost me there, what's that?

Baby Lee
02-16-2006, 03:53 PM
Lost me there, what's that?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118421/

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje
Harold Perrineau

Chiefnj
02-16-2006, 03:54 PM
Lost me there, what's that?

They were actors on the show OZ.

Another loose Wizard of Oz connection: when Dorothy first runs away from home and meets Marvelo/Oz he takes out a crystal ball and says it was from the ancient Egyptian queens or gods. Later they see heiroglyphics on the countdown numbers.

ct
02-16-2006, 04:26 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118421/

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje
Harold Perrineau

Thank you! That's the 2nd time I've missed connections with an actor's prior work. Guess I don't watch enough TV. :)

ct
02-22-2006, 04:21 PM
re-airing of the pilot 2nite, but a friend linked me to this, thought it was interesting.

http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8740

Chiefnj
02-22-2006, 04:45 PM
I'm about done with the show.

The show needs continuity. I read that it is a repeat tonight, followed by one new episode next week and then 2 or 3 repeats again. One new episode a month? Screw that.

angel
02-22-2006, 04:47 PM
luckily for me, during the month of re-runs, I'll be in another country on vacation, so I won't be sad about it

but that does suck that it'll be so long between new episodes, but that's what you get for being hooked on a TV show, you have to bow to the producer's whims

KingPriest2
02-24-2006, 12:42 PM
'Lost' Findings


EW senior writer Jeff Jensen solves the show! (Or so he thinks...) Disagree with him? Then post your own best guesses about the hatch, the Dharma Initiative, and other mysteries





Every month EW will turn to our shadowy operative inside the world of Lost for insight. Burn this when you're done. The truth is out there.

1. THE ISLAND: It's Alive!
Our theory of Lost begins with the question posed in the pilot by smack-addled rocker Charlie: ''Guys...where are we?'' Some have argued that the island could be a hallucination — ''A Psychological Shipwreck,'' to use the title of an 1879 short story by Lost-linked author Ambrose Bierce. Or an alien twilight zone. It's tempting to go with ''limbo'' — an elastic enough idea to corral the show's incredible coincidences and odd details, like a smoke monster and a band of child-swiping Others. But we believe the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 aren't stuck in a mass delusion or a satanic mousetrap. They're alive on the island. A haunted island. And it was made that way by the Dharma Initiative.

2. THE DHARMA INITIATIVE: Head Games
What we know about Dharma is incomplete at best, utterly bogus at worst. According to a choppy ''orientation film'' found in the hatch, Dharma founders Gerald and Karen DeGroot established a research facility on the island in the 1970s to conduct experiments in meteorology, zoology, electromagnetism, psychology, and parapsychology — a dubious science that believes the brain houses mind-over-matter powers. (Think X-Men, Jedi Knights, and sci-fi author Robert Heinlein, whose 1941 short story Lost Legacy is about kids realizing their psychic potential under the tutelage of — COINCIDENCE ALERT! — Ambrose Bierce.) Our theory is that intentionally or not, the Dharma team pulled loose psychic powers from one of its test subjects — skip to No. 5 for the answer about who that might be — with disastrous results. How? With fear. Where? Where else, down in...

3. THE HATCH: Human Testing
The orientation film claims the hatch was originally used to study the island's ''unique'' electromagnetic energy. And indeed, there is a curious wall that seems to be humming with the stuff. But the filmstrip also states that the DeGroots were following B.F. Skinner, a psychologist famous for his Skinner boxes: controlled environments used to study animal behavior. Folks, the hatch is a human Skinner box.

Why wasn't this mentioned in the orientation film? Because the orientation film is part of the experiment! The film was fiction, designed to induce paranoia and fear and observe the test subject's reaction. What Dharma was studying was the behavior every Lost fanatic engages in: the human imperative to organize seemingly random details into some kind of order. The problem is that someone — someone we haven't seen or met yet — was put in the hatch and had a psychic break of world-altering proportions.

4. THE NUMBERS: Those Damn Yankees!
It has been Lost's most baffling conundrum: the seemingly inexplicable connection between Hurley's havoc-causing Lotto picks — 4 8 15 16 23 42 — and the hatch's computer code. This is a two-part riddle. First, the original purpose of the numbers: Skinner box experiments require test subjects to execute empty tasks, like pulling levers or, say, inputting digits into a computer. The Dharma-ites chose the sequence because...they were big Yankee fans, and each number correlates to a retired Yankee jersey. But the second question is far more important: What purpose do the numbers serve now? There are lots of out-there (and fun) ways to go with this, but the truth is that the numbers don't do anything. The ''cursed'' digits are just one more sinister detail in Dharma's elaborate sleight of hand intended to freak out test subjects. The problem was that extreme stress on the subject in the hatch combined with the electromagnetic energy down there to jar loose some suppressed psychic powers. And it jarred them loose in the wrong individual. In that explosive moment, the once meaningless digits were encoded with devilish life. Hence, Hurley's bad luck, and a virus that is rewriting reality on the island.

5. THE ANSWER TO 'LOST': The Island Is Haunted by a Powerful Psychic
The Dharma experiments resulted in the creation of a potent disembodied being. A being deeply steeped in pop culture — think about all the novels, comic books, and random flotsam that make up the DNA of Lost — and powerful enough to bring those bits of pop culture to life. Someone who imprinted his consciousness on the island. Someone whose radioactive corpse was walled up in the hatch. Someone named Aaron.

So how did the Oceanic crew end up on the island? Aaron summoned them, because he has as-yet-undetermined uses for each of them...and he needed a new body. The body of a then-unborn baby. Claire's baby. Which is why the Others (Aaron's followers) have tried to kidnap her child. And why they had to snatch poor, psychic Walt — remember that dead bird from season 1? — who was the only one with the ability to see through their plan.

Of course, the castaways could all be dead. It could be a mass hallucination. The Others could be trying to secure franchise rights to the Twilight Zone Dairy Queen. But this is our story, and we're sticking to it. At least until the start of the next episode.

KingPriest2
02-24-2006, 12:44 PM
The Buddhism of `Lost'

By Maureen Ryan
Published February 19, 2006


There are a million theories about "Lost." That's one of the show's key strengths: Just about every fan of the show has his or her own idea about what's transpiring on that mysterious island, and events on "Lost" can be interpreted to support as many theories as viewers can come up with.

But this season, a truly compelling explanation of the island happenings has emerged: Episodes aired in the fall revealed that the island is an experiment run by a collective known as the Dharma Initiative. Dharma is the word used to describe the collected teachings of the Buddha.

"What's going on here? Is mainstream TV really making a meaningful foray into the Buddhist world? Or is it merely rummaging through the thrift store of Buddhist terminology for the odd hat or trinket with which to play dress up?" Dean Sluyter writes in the current issue of the Buddhist magazine Tricycle. There's reason for Sluyter's wariness; he notes that the last time the word "dharma" was prominently mentioned on TV, "it turned out to mean a cute blond hippie girl married to an uptight yuppie named Greg."

But Sluyter noted other Buddhism-related clues in the show: The computer that must be tended to every 108 minutes may be a reference to the 108-bead string, or mala, that some Buddhist practitioners use during meditation.

And he sees John Locke, the enigmatic character played by Terry O'Quinn, as a man with a lot of relevance to Buddhism: "Thanks to O'Quinn's gravitas, when flashbacks reveal Locke as a loser," Sluyter writes, "we accept his emergence in the forward action as the macho paramilitary survivalist of his own dreams, the warrior-sage who may well prove to be the salvation of his people. Yes, even schmendricks like us may rise to be bodhisattvas," or enlightened beings.

An ABC publicist said that neither of the show's main day-to-day executive producers, Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof, is a Buddhist. Still, Sluyter notes in his piece that, aside from tossing about words such as dharma, the show does address core issues that sound familiar to anyone on the Buddhist path.

"To be lost is to be stripped of the cozy but confining assurance that you're on course, on a tidy, logical trajectory from Point A to Point B," he writes. "If you're really going somewhere new (toward enlightenment, let's say), any concept you have of the destination or the path" that you'll end up on "is necessarily an ignorant concept."

"Whenever we practice" Buddhist concepts such as meditation and mindfulness, Sluyter concludes, "we must be willing to get lost, to cast off the moorings of what we know or think we know."

KingPriest2
02-24-2006, 12:51 PM
'LOST' ON MYSTERIOUS ISLE

TV's latest phenom is awash with theories, questions and very few answers

By PHIL KLOER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/19/2006
It's not just Jack and Kate and Mr. Eko who are "Lost."

It's everyone who watches ABC's addictive TV series, which has moved past mere hit to flat-out phenomenon. And the more you watch, or think about it — or if you're really nuts, the more hours you spend trolling the Internet trying to figure it out — the more lost you are.

Like Seth Miller of Smyrna. Every week that there's a new episode (9 p.m. Wednesdays), Miller, 29, takes notes on the show. As soon as it's over, he posts his theories and observations on his Web log, www.mostlymuppet.com.

"It really challenges you," he says. "Part of the fun of the show is who can come up with the craziest theories or connect the weirdest dots or find the double meanings."

At its simplest level, "Lost" is about several dozen survivors (sometimes called "Lostaways") of a plane crash on a tropical island where the laws of reality have gone off the rails. We don't know what is and isn't a clue, or what is and isn't significant to the big picture: The polar bear? The lottery numbers? The logo on the shark? The Dharma Initiative?

In an attempt to hack through the jungle of the show's mythology, we offer the "Lost" Lists, a partial guide to the different ways the show has viewers hooked.



Significant names
1. John Locke. Named for the 17th-century English philosopher who wrote about the state of nature and the need for civilization to administer laws through a social contract, paralleling in some ways the character.
2. Rousseau. A crazy Frenchwoman on "Lost" and a famous French philosopher in history. Rousseau, like Locke, wrote about the need for a social contract to overcome the brutality of our natural impulses.
3. Jack Shephard. The doctor looks after the Lostaways as if they were his flock of sheep; the name has a benevolent symbolism (although Jack's need to save everyone is portrayed as a compulsion). His father was named Christian Shephard (Christ as shepherd), yet Christian (the dad) was a pretty nasty guy.
4. Aaron. Claire's baby, possibly named for Moses' brother. In the Old Testament, Aaron was instrumental in leading the Hebrews out of captivity in Egypt.
5. Mr. Eko. Possibly a homage to author Umberto Eco. Eco's 1995 novel, "The Island of the Day Before," is not much like "Lost" but does involve a shipwreck, survival issues, a character with a mysterious brother (like Mr. Eko) and confusion over what is real.

Father issues
Is it significant or just coincidence that so many of the Lostaways had serious problems with their fathers?
1. Fugitive Kate thought her father was her stepfather and killed him; he may have abused her.
2. Jack's father was an emotionally abusive alcoholic.
3. Locke's father conned him into donating a kidney, then rejected him.
4. Shannon's rich father died but didn't leave her any money.
5. Sawyer's father killed his mother, then committed suicide.
6. Walt's father, Michael, signed away his legal rights and didn't see the boy for nine years.
7. Baby Aaron's father (Claire's boyfriend) split before he was born.

The big picture: Theories
1. Purgatory/afterlife. They all died, and this is some form of afterlife. The producers have said this is not the case.
2. The Experiment. It's a social psychology experiment being run by the Dharma Initiative that went wrong, or something like that.
3. It's the End of the World as We Know It. Maybe the entire outside world was destroyed, and these people were brought here to start anew. By God? A cabal of scientists? Unknown forces?
4. Electromagnetism mumbo jumbo. Some science-minded fans think electromagnetism is the key to a lot. There's something to this, but a lot of the Internet discussions will make your head hurt.
5. Time/space/dimension jump. The flight may have started in Australia in 2005, but there's been nothing to indicate events on the island are happening in our world, in the present time. "Lost" is a sealed, self-referential world.
6. It's all the dream of one character. No way. If this turns out to be the case, the outcry will be deafening.

Unsolved mysteries
When it's all over, these had better be explained:
1. How everybody is connected.
2. Where the island really is.
3. The polar bear.
4. How Locke can walk after being in a wheelchair.
5. The lottery numbers.
6. Exactly how the pilot (of the plane) was killed in the pilot (episode).
7. Why Hurley doesn't lose weight, week after week.
8. The monster or monsters, aka "Lostzilla."

Lostaways who killed someone
1. Sayid
2. Mr. Eko
3. Ana Lucia
4. Jack
5. Charlie
6. Sawyer
7. Kate

Recurring motifs
1. Eyes. Many episodes open with an extreme close-up of an eye. Locke said he had looked into the eye of the island. Etc.
2. Games. Kate and Jack played golf, Walt and Locke played backgammon, Kate and Sawyer played the drinking game "I Never," Locke played Risk in a flashback. Maybe the whole thing is one big game. Discuss.
3. Leg injuries. Locke was a paraplegic before the island healed him. Boone's leg is crushed when the plane falls out of the tree. Jack's wife almost was a paraplegic after her car crash. Michael hurt his leg badly before he was on the island. And so on.

Those weird whispers
Transcriptions are supplied by fans who record the jungle whispers, analyze them and post them on the Net. Believe 'em or don't.
1. Before Ana Lucia shoots Shannon: "Shannon, she likes the guy, she likes the guy. Shannon, your life and time is up. Help me. Meet me on the other side. Her song. ... I don't think you should tell her when she comes ... Who's the guy? Fire Lucia. The brothers that help us. Are you done with it? Her song."
2. When Ana Lucia and Mr. Eko are in the jungle: "Who's this in the woods? Sawyer, Ana. I'm in someone's dream. Ich weiss nicht (German for "I don't know"). She's heavy. Black rock. Bring the boy."

Back story connections
1. Hurley owned the box company Locke worked for.
2. Shannon's father was in the SUV that hit Sarah, the woman who became Jack's wife. Jack chose to save Sarah's life in the ER, and Shannon's father died as a result.
3. Jack's dad met Sawyer in a bar, and they exchanged philosophies.
4. At least twice, one character appears on a TV set in the background during another Lostaway's back story. (Hurley appears in Jin's story, and Sayid appears in Kate's story.)
5. Kate's waitress mom served Sawyer in a diner.

'Lost' tunes
1. "Make Your Own Kind of Music" by "Mama Cass" Elliott. Played in the Season 2 opener inside the hatch.
2. "La Mer." Sung by now-dead-character Shannon. It's best known in its English version "Beyond the Sea" by Bobby Darin and others. The lyrics were also written on a map of the island.
3. "I Shall Not Walk Alone" by the Blind Boys of Alabama, played over the final scene in a first season episode about Sawyer.
4. "Walkin' After Midnight" by Patsy Cline. Kate played it on the turntable in the hatch.
5. "Redemption Song" by Bob Marley. Sawyer sang a few lines when he was on the raft trying to escape.
6. "You All Everybody" by Drive Shaft. Charlie's fictional rock band's one big hit, it's come up several times.


The 'Lost' Library: Extracurricular reading
1. "The Third Policeman" by Flann O'Brien, an obscure Irish surrealist, shown briefly in Desmond's belongings in the hatch. The book is very strange with possible but tenuous connections to "Lost." Plus, the hero turns out to be dead, adding fuel for the (discredited?) theory they're all dead.
2. "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" by Ambrose Bierce. A short story in which reality is really a fantasy of a man who is dying. Major clue, said some when it popped up. Nah, the writers are messing with us, said others.
3. The Bible. Mr. Eko found one on the island that turned out to contain a piece of film; in a later episode, he recites the 23rd Psalm.
4. "A Wrinkle in Time," the classic children's sci-fi novel by Madeleine L'Engle, and "Watership Down" by Richard Adams. Sawyer was seen reading both; significance unclear.
5. "Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad and "Lord of the Flies" by William Golding have been referred to in dialogue.
6. Fans think a number of books have partly inspired "Lost," including "The Stand" by Stephen King, "The Island of the Day Before" by Umberto Eco and "Mysterious Island" by Jules Verne.

KingPriest2
02-24-2006, 12:54 PM
The Ultimate Lost Theory (in brief-ish)
Feb. 18, 2006. 01:00 AM
MALENE ARPE


Of all the hundreds of theories on the web that aim to explain the intrigues of Lost, this one caught our eye as the most complex, inventive and somehow believable.

A lengthy and illustrated explanation appears at http://tinyurl.com/9r883.

In an email exchange, we contacted "theorist" Andrew Smith of Northhampton, England. Smith is a graphic designer who loves Lost because of "the broad and excellent cast of characters, the usual love triangles, the production values, the soundtrack that holds the drama together and the way it pretends NOT to be sci-fi — so it's okay to like it and not feel like a geek."

Smith's theory is based on actual science, primarily the works of two scientists: Nobel Prize winner Hannes Alfvιn, who worked with electromagnetism and was interested in the "green flash," a phenomenon that sometimes occurs at sunset; and Hans Oersted, who discovered electromagnetism in 1820.

Alfvιn plus Hans O. equals Alvar Hanso, founder of Lost's "Dharma Initiative." Voila.

Here, in Smith's own words, is his theory:

"Our heroes were brought back to the island of their birth to continue a project which began in secret back in 1968. The Dharma Initiative — a group of scientists funded by Hanso (an ex-arms-dealer-turned-pacifist) — was set up to develop a weapon that would halt the arms race and the madness of mutually assured destruction at the height of the Cold War.

"The project was sabotaged and much of it was disbanded by the U.S. Army, but not before the children were sent out into the world undetected and the weapon was sealed behind concrete in the hatch.

"The weapon that Dharma had developed — the Collective Consciousness — uses electromagnetism to control objects and to induce visions in vulnerable minds. The CC is a few scientists with wires attached to their heads. The ultimate aim of the CC was eventually realized: with the effect of a massive EMP (electromagnetic pulse) bomb, the CC destroyed electrical equipment the world over."

Are you with him thus far? "The world would assume it was a natural disaster — a polar reversal — as anticipated by the Oersted satellite in '99. The result would be to permanently set technology back a hundred years, before WMDs. The plane never actually crashed. They were given a rollercoaster ride by the CC, and then knocked out. When they came to on the island, it was some time (maybe years) later; debris had been flung around the island to make it look like a crash."


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`I imagined my brother being ... dropped into a car cruncher, which would then squash him into a cube'
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Remember the compass not working on the island? The poles have switched.

With the technology hinted at in the Orientation film (and Hurley's comic), Smith believes, the CC scientists are able to remotely control objects, such as cars, galleons, planes and lottery balls, and are also able to induce visions in weakened minds, such as those that are drunk, drugged, exhausted or sick.

Smith posits that the Orientation film and what Desmond says is false and only meant to ensure the crashies type in the numbers every 108 minutes for three purposes: to provide a focus for the community, to protect the hatch/power-supply/scientists and to download information from the Oersted satellite.

Smith does not place any large significance on the numbers themselves: "The numbers that are input are intrinsically meaningless; more telling is the fact that the numbers get larger and that they total 108. The numbers getting larger suggests units of time; 108 minutes was the time it took astronaut Yuri Alexeyevich Gagarin to orbit the earth....

"The purpose of the Dharma Initiative was world peace; its means were a number of defensive weapons to protect the island including the mechanical monster, sharks, the black fog and probably more stuff to come."

"They're back on the island to continue the Dharma project: Walt will eventually become part of the CC; Hurley will input the numbers for the rest of his life. The finale will be our heroes realizing all of these secrets — that their whole lives (their foster parents, their coincidences, their good/bad luck, their jobs, their disabilities and their travel plans) were engineered around this project. Some will choose to stay. Others will leave. The End!

"To summarize further still: Science is playing God in order to bring peace. But do the ends justify the means?"

Umm, wow. And you thought of this how?

"My theory stems from the scene where Locke is being dragged along the ground towards a hole," Smith continues. "It just so happens that my poor older brother has to wear iron calipers on his legs. Years ago, when he was getting on my nerves, I imagined him being picked up by a large electromagnet — the kind you get in dumps — and dropped into a car cruncher, which would then squash him into a cube.

"When I saw Locke being dragged along by his legs, I started to think about electromagnetism, etc. I realize this must sound quite weird, but I do love my brother and I am pretty normal."

KingPriest2
02-24-2006, 01:00 PM
Fans Of 'Lost' Keep On Looking For Clues To Its Meaning As It Gets More Muddled
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'Lost' characters Eko, left, and Jack look puzzled with the mysteries of life on a not-so-deserted island. So are their fans here in the real world.

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Unraveling the mysteries, symbolism and hidden meanings in "Lost" has become great sport for many couch potatoes.

This confounding tale of survivors stranded on a strange island could have easily become just a cult favorite, but it's the biggest offbeat hit since "The X-Files."

The ultimate water-cooler series, ABC's "Lost," which airs at 9 p.m. Wednesdays, has a devoted fan base that spends hours online and on telephones with friends, family and co-workers analyzing each episode, looking for clues to what it all means.

Hundreds of Web sites are devoted to pondering every scene, character and plot development. Some theories are so deep you have to laugh.

For example, check out www.

4815162342.com for "The Ultimate Theory." This proposes that the island where the survivors are stranded was part of an experiment by scientists who feared Earth's magnetic field was in danger of reversal.

Apparently, a rip in the "electrosphere" would have cataclysmic effects like those described in "Ghostbusters."

You know: "A disaster of biblical proportion. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies, rivers and seas boiling, 40 years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes, human sacrifice."

In addition, "DOGS AND CATS living together - mass hysteria!"

We're more than halfway through the second season, and the mystery of "Lost" has only gotten thicker and more convoluted.

And it's only going to get more muddled. After looking back over this season's episodes and studying several of the fan Web sites - and listening to co-workers endlessly discuss what's going to happen next - I had a vision of future episodes.

I'm sure it wasn't a flashback because there was nothing about my past involved.

I can't be 100 percent certain, but I think we might see the following:

Socrates Redux: Hurley and Charlie discover a deep canyon filled with mismatched socks. Meanwhile, Locke finds another fragment of a tape from the Dharma project. It discloses that scientists were pursuing a theory that a wormhole connects all the washers and dryers in the world.

Out of Time: The Frenchwoman returns and leads Jack to what appears to be a diary that belonged to Amelia Earhart. On another part of the island, Jack finds what appears to be a satchel belonging to D.B Cooper.

Meanwhile, back down the hatch, Locke discovers 18 minutes of audiotape in an envelope marked "Rosemary Woods."

A Three-Hour Tour: In a flashback, we learn that as a child Hurley was fascinated by reruns of "Gilligan's Island," and his lucky numbers - 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 - add up to the exact number of times the Skipper said "Little Buddy."

Meanwhile, back down the hatch, Locke is shown reading "The Complete Adventures of Curious George" (a moment guaranteed to send millions of fans to chat rooms).

Goodbye, Oz: Fed up with Charlie, the castaways finally banish him from their spot on the island. Jack realizes he has been on the island too long when Sawyer starts looking good to him.

Meanwhile, down in the hatch, Locke plays a CD of Charlie's band, DriveShaft, backward and discovers it means absolutely nothing.

In the jungle, Charlie finds red shoes, tries them on, clicks his heels and disappears.

"COMMANDER IN CHIEF": In a sudden move, ABC yanked "Commander in Chief" from its Tuesday night schedule, replacing it with reruns of "According to Jim" and "George Lopez."

The political drama starring Geena Davis is scheduled to return April 18.

The sitcom reruns will continue until March 7, when a short-run comedy, "Sons & Daughters," will fill the 9 p.m. slot on Tuesdays.

"Commander in Chief" has not been canceled and will return for seven episodes, ABC officials say

Mile High Mania
02-24-2006, 01:13 PM
Interesting theories indeed... but, I think #1689 is the most likely to be true.

ct
02-24-2006, 02:55 PM
Q. What is the significance of the individual numbers of the satellite code number: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42?
A. There is no intrinsic significance of the numbers beyond the show. They are not an obscure occult reference or have any scientific/mathematical relevance whatsoever. They are the passcode that stops the satellite from zapping the hatch - the security system to protect the island and its secrets. Within the realms of me making things up about Lost: the fact that the numbers get larger suggests arithmetic progression; the numbers are minutes adding up to 108 minutes (the time it takes the satellite to orbit the earth); the satellite is asked to perform a task at 4 minutes, then 8 minutes later, then 15 minutes later and so on, but what that is probably doesn't matter.

This is pretty deep. So a satellite in orbit passes directly over the island every 108 minutes. It is instructed to perform 'tasks' at time intervals of 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42 minutes during it's orbit. Wonder what geographic points of the globe the satellite might pass over at these intervals? Specific global regions of power, to support information gathering or electromagnetic disruption tasks for the world peace initiative. :hmmm: :shrug:

So say they are on an island in the pacific, which seem a reasonable guess, then the 4 and 12 minute marks of orbit could be west/east coast north america.

4 = West coast N.A.(L.A./Seattle/Silicon Valley)
12(4+8) = East coast N.A.(Washington D.C./NYC)
27(4+8+15) = Western Europe(London/Paris, perhaps Berlin)
43(4+8+15+16) = Moscow/Middle East
66(4+8+15+16+23) = Bejing/Tokyo
108(4+8+15+16+23+42) = LOST Island.

kcfanXIII
02-24-2006, 02:57 PM
hey, just saw the pilot of this show the other night on tv. not bad, but could do with fewer commericals. might have to rad this thread, and start watching.

Mile High Mania
02-26-2006, 08:44 PM
Check this out... it's a vid of the dream deal that Charlie had a few episodes back, but check out the bird... it looks like one of the 'others', check out the face.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6344215419730491458&q=LOST+episode

Who has time to dig into these scenes?

KcMizzou
02-26-2006, 08:46 PM
Check this out... it's a vid of the dream deal that Charlie had a few episodes back, but check out the bird... it looks like one of the 'others', check out the face.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6344215419730491458&q=LOST+episode

Who has time to dig into these scense?Heh. Interesting.

angel
03-01-2006, 08:20 PM
Anyone watching see the first ten minutes and can fill me in on what happened?

KMBC was down until 8:10, and I missed out on ten minutes, and I need to know what I missed... please

Kclee
03-01-2006, 09:00 PM
Check this out... it's a vid of the dream deal that Charlie had a few episodes back, but check out the bird... it looks like one of the 'others', check out the face.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6344215419730491458&q=LOST+episode

Who has time to dig into these scenes?



Heh. Jackass.

DMAC
03-01-2006, 09:05 PM
Anyone watching see the first ten minutes and can fill me in on what happened?

KMBC was down until 8:10, and I missed out on ten minutes, and I need to know what I missed... please
Ditto, that English chick was hangin out with the Dharma folks? When? What the heck?

undercover
03-01-2006, 09:50 PM
did anyone else get the impression that Mr. Echo is an other?

AirForceChief
03-01-2006, 10:09 PM
did anyone else get the impression that Mr. Echo is an other?

Nope. And unless the whole background episodes of Mr. Echo were lies, then the writers don't want us too, either...

What is up w/ the infection. Why should you off your kid if their infected? Wouldn't it be too late, even if you did? Seems everyone has held that baby anywho...

ChiefsFanatic
03-02-2006, 12:15 AM
Ditto, that English chick was hangin out with the Dharma folks? When? What the heck?

Did you mean Australian chick?

Frazod
03-22-2006, 07:07 PM
Bump. New episode tonight. FINALLY. This Sopranoesque new-episode-whenever-we-feel-like-it attitude is well past pissing me off, but I'm still watching.

BigOlChiefsfan
03-22-2006, 09:03 PM
Holey Moley, next week will make 2 new episodes in a row. We'll have to watch re-runs til August to make up for it.

Good ending tonite. I don't like that balloon/other yokel one bit.

Bearcat
03-22-2006, 09:58 PM
I thought a lot of it was predictable... we already knew the guy was an 'other' by the way he tried turning Locke against Jack in the previous episode, so it was obvious he was sending the cop out to a trap or a pack of dogs or something.

I hope the pregnancy thing doesn't mean we're in this for another 9 island-months :eek:

Next week looks good though... maybe the first one worth watching in... :hmmm:

Chiefnj
03-22-2006, 10:10 PM
I thought a lot of it was predictable... we already knew the guy was an 'other' by the way he tried turning Locke against Jack in the previous episode, so it was obvious he was sending the cop out to a trap or a pack of dogs or something.

I hope the pregnancy thing doesn't mean we're in this for another 9 island-months :eek:

Next week looks good though... maybe the first one worth watching in... :hmmm:

It looks like they find his balloon next week. An elaborate trap??

The best line was when Hale said "you guys have trust issues." The lostees keep everything from each other. Last week Kate and the gals go find the medical hatch with disguises and it appears that they didn't tell anyone. Jack and Locke try to keep Hale a secret from everyone. How the hell do they keep everyone out of the hatch? It's the only hot shower on the island with comfy beds. Wouldn't the other 30+ castaways tell Jack and Locke to F off and use the damn place?

Frazod
03-22-2006, 10:44 PM
Charlie's turned into quite the little prick. I kept thinking Ana Lucia was going to punch him in the face.

Good episode. Hopefully next week's will be better. And hopefully after that, we won't have to wait six months for the next one. :grr:

ChiefsFanatic
03-22-2006, 11:59 PM
Charlie's turned into quite the little prick. I kept thinking Ana Lucia was going to punch him in the face.

Good episode. Hopefully next week's will be better. And hopefully after that, we won't have to wait six months for the next one. :grr:

Good for Charlie. All he wanted was to be included. He saved Claire's baby, shot Ethan, and generally tried to be a help wherever he could.

ChiefsFanatic
03-23-2006, 12:01 AM
When Hale gave his little speech about sending them into a trap, I would have broken his nose and dragged his ass back to the safe.

Just because he knows where a balloon is, does not mean it is his balloon. He probably helped kill the people who crashed.

Frazod
03-23-2006, 12:06 AM
When Hale gave his little speech about sending them into a trap, I would have broken his nose and dragged his ass back to the safe.

Just because he knows where a balloon is, does not mean it is his balloon. He probably helped kill the people who crashed.

They didn't give Sayid nearly enough time alone with that asshat.

And speaking of people who need to die, I really can't believe any group of people would tolerate somebody like Sawyer. Personally, I'd torture him to reveal the locations of his various stashes and then slit his friggin throat (must conserve ammo).

ChiefsFanatic
03-23-2006, 12:10 AM
They didn't give Sayid nearly enough time alone with that asshat.

And speaking of people who need to die, I really can't believe any group of people would tolerate somebody like Sawyer. Personally, I'd torture him to reveal the locations of his various stashes and then slit his friggin throat (must conserve ammo).

I think Sawyer has just enough Alpha Male in him that Jack and Locke think he may be useful later.

Frazod
03-23-2006, 12:14 AM
I think Sawyer has just enough Alpha Male in him that Jack and Locke think he may be useful later.

Jack and Locke seem intimidated by him. I'm not sure why Sayid and Echo put up with his crap, though. Either could bust his ass in a second. Hell, Ana Lucia could probably f#ck him up, too.

And BTW, WHERE THE HELL IS MICHAEL? :spock:

Mile High Mania
03-29-2006, 08:16 PM
So, anyone got a clue as to what just happened to the hatch? Looks like the timer stopped and a voice was giving a message through the speakers, but you couldn't hear it until the final countdown...

Interesting.

DMAC
03-29-2006, 09:07 PM
good show! now only 5 more crappy shows til the next good one!!

Mile High Mania
03-29-2006, 09:20 PM
Next week is new I thought?

Psyko Tek
03-29-2006, 10:20 PM
Did anynody else jus about sh*t ewhen the doors came down on locke's legs?

damn had to be one hell of a feeling. Get back all you have lost just to lose it again doing something stupid.

any body catch any of the blaklight symbols?

all I could make out were question marks

DMAC
03-29-2006, 10:34 PM
Next week is new I thought?It is. I was just impying that usually nothing really happens in the shows, and you leave knowing the same as when you came in. ...or something like that

Guru
03-29-2006, 10:54 PM
Did anynody else jus about sh*t ewhen the doors came down on locke's legs?

damn had to be one hell of a feeling. Get back all you have lost just to lose it again doing something stupid.

any body catch any of the blaklight symbols?

all I could make out were question marks


I have been googling to see if anyone deciphered those. Nothing yet.

schneider221
03-29-2006, 10:59 PM
to me it looked like a map the island with i think 6 things (hatches)in a circle with a big one in the middle.

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/blastDoorMap.jpg

Psyko Tek
03-29-2006, 11:11 PM
to me it looked like a map the island with i think 6 things (hatches)in a circle with a big one in the middle.

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/blastDoorMap.jpg


you think it's desmond's map?
and wtf is he any way

love to know which is the med hatch where the aussie chick was

and wtf is michael? is he an "other" now

is kate a trophy girl for alpha males?
she was woulda done jack tonight

just more questions, need some payoff

arrowheadnation
03-30-2006, 02:21 AM
Here are pics from tonights episode.

<img src=http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/blastDoorMapOverlay.jpg>

<img src=http://www.thehatchonline.com/images/dharmadoor.jpg>

<imc src=http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/galeLicense.jpg>

arrowheadnation
03-30-2006, 02:22 AM
<img src=http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/galeLicense.jpg>

Guru
03-30-2006, 02:35 AM
Hey, look.... Warren Moon has been found on Lost. When did he move to Minnesota?

arrowheadnation
03-30-2006, 02:42 AM
Did you all notice that the chick that Lock was doing the home inspection for was Sayid's woman. These writers are friggin brilliant.

Guru
03-30-2006, 02:44 AM
Damn, I can't beleive I missed that. You are right.

wilas101
03-30-2006, 08:41 AM
my damned dvr quit recording right at the end so I missed a part.

When sayid was saying that Henry's alibi all checked out he said something about never believing him "and".....

Thats where I cut off. Did they dig up the grave or something and find that driver's license? What did I miss there at the end?

ct
03-30-2006, 08:46 AM
my damned dvr quit recording right at the end so I missed a part.

When sayid was saying that Henry's alibi all checked out he said something about never believing him "and".....

Thats where I cut off. Did they dig up the grave or something and find that driver's license? What did I miss there at the end?

He dug up the grave, and it was not a woman buried there, but a man. A man named Henry Gale, then showed this...

http://www.jayandjack.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/galeLicense.jpg

VERY good show last night!!

chagrin
03-30-2006, 08:46 AM
you think it's desmond's map?
and wtf is he any way


Desmond has reseurfaced on "24" as a German Intel Agent, seriously - but he doesn't go by Desmond, obviously.

oldandslow
03-30-2006, 10:29 AM
Here are some easier to read translations on the map

" Ut Sit Magna Tamen Certe Lenta Ira Deorum Est- The wrath of the gods may be great, but it certainly is slow

Cogito Ergo Doleo - I think therefore I am depressed

Malum consilium quod mutari non potest - It's a bad plan that can't be changed.

Sursum Corda- Lift up your hearts

Credo nos in fluctu eodem esse - I think we're on the same wavelength

aegrescit medendo- It becomes worse for the remedies employed.

Hic Sunt Dracones- here there be dragons ( a reference to the monster?)

I also see three perfect square roots the square root of 16,64 and 225 which are 4,8 and 15. These are on a hatch which seems to be called “the flame”.

Oh, and Ursus maritimus is the scientific name for polar bear.

The plane that flew over Locke's head was an Oceanic plane.

Also, a few weeks back, Sayid and Hurley heard a Glenn Miller song on the transceiver. Glenn Miller disappeared in a plane over the ocean during WWII.

Baby Lee
03-30-2006, 10:36 AM
Hic Sunt Dracones- here there be dragons ( a reference to the monster?)
Here there be Dragons (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0152017054/002-3307010-3168840?v=glance&n=283155)

Dartgod
03-30-2006, 10:46 AM
Malum consilium quod mutari non potest - It's a bad plan that can't be changed.
Sounds like Carl's 5...er, 10...ummm, 17? year plan. Could the Other's be Chiefs fans?

Baby Lee
03-30-2006, 03:58 PM
Say what you will, Lost fans have a work ethic.

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Blast_Door

Clint in Wichita
03-30-2006, 04:03 PM
Some savant decoded pretty much the entire map. This must be what Trekkies do in their spare time:

Mile High Mania
03-30-2006, 04:43 PM
The time and detail put into the research on these sites is amazing AND it makes me ask the question... are these fans or people behind the scenes of the show feeding us?

BigOlChiefsfan
03-30-2006, 06:31 PM
Look at those LOST fans standing over on that grassy knoll. Hey, wait a minute...

ChiefsFanatic
03-31-2006, 05:19 AM
Jack and Locke seem intimidated by him. I'm not sure why Sayid and Echo put up with his crap, though. Either could bust his ass in a second. Hell, Ana Lucia could probably f#ck him up, too.

And BTW, WHERE THE HELL IS MICHAEL? :spock:

Jack was all up in Sawyer's head when he told him "When I need the guns, I'll get the guns."

It was nice to see Sawyer get knocked down a peg.

Also, it looks like I was right. Just because the prisoner knew where a balloon was, didn't make it his balloon.

arrowheadnation
03-31-2006, 08:59 AM
Here's the best one yet. I believe it will appear in TV guide this week.
<img src=http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~andorfc/door2.jpg>

KCTitus
03-31-2006, 11:04 AM
A good episode, I guess...I did reveal what I had already assumed that 'Gale' was an Other and then the 'map' was revealed.

Somethings that have withered on the vine...such as:

Why didnt Kate and the gal with the baby let anyone know about the medical hatch and the disguises?

Why was Eko cutting down the trees he 'liked' and what is he doing wit them. Aside from Eko talking to 'Gale', he's been a non factor this season since he burned the plane.

Hurley and the blonde's interaction happened in one show and that was it. Why does he think he knows her?

Once I saw the 'map' revealed, I knew it would only be 24 hours before someone had it all 'decoded'.

Chiefnj
03-31-2006, 11:12 AM
A good episode, I guess...I did reveal what I had already assumed that 'Gale' was an Other and then the 'map' was revealed.

Somethings that have withered on the vine...such as:

Why didnt Kate and the gal with the baby let anyone know about the medical hatch and the disguises?

Why was Eko cutting down the trees he 'liked' and what is he doing wit them. Aside from Eko talking to 'Gale', he's been a non factor this season since he burned the plane.

Hurley and the blonde's interaction happened in one show and that was it. Why does he think he knows her?

Once I saw the 'map' revealed, I knew it would only be 24 hours before someone had it all 'decoded'.

I can't understand why the 20+ other castaways aren't always in line for the bathroom or shower in the hatch.

Psyko Tek
03-31-2006, 11:38 AM
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1178388_3_0_,00.html

interactive version of map from entertainment weekly

KCTitus
03-31-2006, 11:42 AM
I can't understand why the 20+ other castaways aren't always in line for the bathroom or shower in the hatch.

Another good point...I've heard that mentioned before.

ct
03-31-2006, 01:03 PM
A good episode, I guess...I did reveal what I had already assumed that 'Gale' was an Other and then the 'map' was revealed.

Somethings that have withered on the vine...such as:

Why didnt Kate and the gal with the baby let anyone know about the medical hatch and the disguises?

Why was Eko cutting down the trees he 'liked' and what is he doing wit them. Aside from Eko talking to 'Gale', he's been a non factor this season since he burned the plane.

Hurley and the blonde's interaction happened in one show and that was it. Why does he think he knows her?

Once I saw the 'map' revealed, I knew it would only be 24 hours before someone had it all 'decoded'.

Looks like this one gets front burner next week. Hurley starts to see visions, like many others have, and the blonde "psychiatrist" is shown trying to help him.

Also, regarding the "trust issues", Kate and Claire know of another hatch, the medical facility, and the tailies know of yet another, where they were holed up for awhile. But how long until these idiots start comparing notes?

cadmonkey
03-31-2006, 02:34 PM
I just found a new Dharma instruction video for Hatch #5

http://www.dharma.quantym.net/index2.php

ct
03-31-2006, 03:18 PM
that video looks totally bogus

Fish
03-31-2006, 03:24 PM
that video looks totally bogus

agreed......

ct
03-31-2006, 03:28 PM
remove the index2.php, and see more weird stuff

ct
03-31-2006, 03:35 PM
looks like a fan site only, for fun

Fairplay
04-05-2006, 09:19 PM
Alrighty then, i thought tonights episode was nothing short of excellent.
In fact the last 3 episodes before are finally getting this series into a higher gear.
The writing on it is excellent.
Of course, the loyal followers of this show get fed up quickly with the reruns. Understandably so.

Hurley is maybe squirrely?

Hurley should have sex with the sexy therapist, even though shes a pshyco :) ....Maybe he didn't even win all that money?
Even if he did. Whats he going to do with it on the island? Buy it? Doubt it...............

I knew that one dude was a bad guy............maybe hes a good guy in wolfs clothing but maybe hes really good?

I love how this show answers questions...but bring up questions about other things.

I hope this show finally cuts down on the re-run crap and appreciates the viewers enough to make more episodes.

Im asking too much...nevermind.

ct
04-06-2006, 11:42 AM
The whole Hurley's imagination episode was hilarious I thought! Seemed like it was written specifically to mess with all the on-line Losties, and the thoeries flying around. I was just crackin up!

keg in kc
04-06-2006, 11:43 AM
great ep last night

Chiefnj
04-06-2006, 11:59 AM
I thought the 60 seconds of Sayid interrogating Henry was good and the rest of the episode lame filler.

DMAC
04-06-2006, 12:46 PM
I thought the 60 seconds of Sayid interrogating Henry was good and the rest of the episode lame filler.really? Last nights really had my attention. I thought it was one of the best. Same with last weeks. I enjoyed the question answer with Locke and "Henry Gale". Making the island seem like more than just an island. Almost like there is something supernatural to it all. Very impressive. :thumb: