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Baby Lee
04-06-2006, 12:15 PM
Anyone else get a kick out of 'pretty sneaky Leonard' when he won Connect Four?

Kclee
04-06-2006, 12:28 PM
Anyone else get a kick out of 'pretty sneaky Leonard' when he won Connect Four?


Heh. And when Sawyer said he was going to open up a bunch of convience stores with all that food, then said he wondered if Sayid needed a job.

chiefs4me
04-06-2006, 03:21 PM
I thought it sucked....and what questions were answered...NONE.....please don't tell me they want us to believe this was all just someone's dream?????

Dartgod
04-06-2006, 04:21 PM
.....please don't tell me they want us to believe this was all just someone's dream?????
Boy, nothing gets by you.

Baby Lee
04-06-2006, 04:22 PM
I thought it sucked....and what questions were answered...NONE.....please don't tell me they want us to believe this was all just someone's dream?????
Just the opposite, they squelched that supposition by filtering it through Hurley's illness. Brilliant, IMO. Have Dave raise all the questions "how come your numbers are so important, the hatch, the lottery, the computer" "why haven't you lost weight" "why's this hot girl macking on you" and squash them all as the imaginings of an unwell dude.

chiefs4me
04-06-2006, 05:42 PM
Boy, nothing gets by you.






shut up darty..:harumph:

Mile High Mania
04-06-2006, 05:51 PM
I thought it was very funny when Hurley jumped all over Sawyer, it had a cartoonish feel to it with the tarp falling over them and Sawyer trying to crawl out only to be dragged back under. Good stuff.

BigOlChiefsfan
04-06-2006, 06:07 PM
I enjoyed last night's ep, esp. the end.

Meanwhile....I got a kick out of this:

http://www.islostarepeat.com/

Rausch
04-06-2006, 09:12 PM
I thought it was very funny when Hurley jumped all over Sawyer, it had a cartoonish feel to it with the tarp falling over them and Sawyer trying to crawl out only to be dragged back under. Good stuff.

Heh heh, porkchop kicked Sawyer's ass...

ChiefsFanatic
04-07-2006, 12:54 AM
Heh heh, porkchop kicked Sawyer's ass...

I think it was "Deep Dish" that set him off this time.

arrowheadnation
04-07-2006, 02:53 AM
That big question mark in the center of the map on the blast door has to be a centrofuge or something that produces a magnetic field powerful enough to bring down jets/planes/etc. How do I back this up? Remember earlier in the season when Jack and Sayid were exploring the hatch? The tunnel they were following ended at a wall that was magnetized. If you look at the map, one tunnel from every hatch goes toward the center question mark, and then ends. It's seems feasible doesn't it?

arrowheadnation
04-07-2006, 04:31 AM
Another thing that's obvious is that the map on the blast door was not drawn by one of the "others." It was drawn by somebody who commandeered (sp) the hatch much like the survivors have. Perhaps Desmond, perhaps Kelvin, or perhaps it was both of them...or perhaps it was somebody else. Check out the most recently updated translation of the map below. The labels on the map are mostly questions/assumptions/or guesses. Another dead giveaway is written vertically along the left side of the octagon. It says not to make a journey to this part of the island because you won't be back in time (108 on the countdown timer) to reset the counter. This shows you that it was one person that was in there ALONE.

Good gravy....I just can't get enough of this show.

<img src=http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/blastDoorMapOverlay.jpg>

donkhater
04-07-2006, 05:50 AM
Some points I keep thinking about:

1. Where the hell is Micheal?
2. If this isn't Hurley's imagination, then the blond chick is a mental patient masqurading as a therapists--potential creepiness.
3. Henry could be the boss of the 'others' and got caught on purpose to bring them down.
4. Where's Desmond? I know he said he was getting out of there, but to where? It's a freakin' island? Is he really an 'other'?
5. Did Henry tell the truth about not pushing the button?
6. Obviously food is getting dropped to whomever is in the hatch. Why no plane sightings.
7. How did Locke end up parylyzed?

There are some holes that need to be filled IMO.

Mile High Mania
04-07-2006, 06:38 AM
There are some holes that need to be filled IMO.

Tell me you haven't been watching since Episode 1... "holes, question marks and general confusion" by the viewers is the essence of LOST.

arrowheadnation
04-07-2006, 05:33 PM
1. Where the hell is Micheal?
----still off looking for Walt. Use your imagination...he's probably captured.

2. If this isn't Hurley's imagination, then the blond chick is a mental patient masqurading as a therapists--potential creepiness.
---creepiness is what makes this show so damn addictive.

3. Henry could be the boss of the 'others' and got caught on purpose to bring them down.
---perhaps, or he may not be an "other" at all. The person who drew the map was most likely not an "other."

4. Where's Desmond? I know he said he was getting out of there, but to where? It's a freakin' island? Is he really an 'other'?
---who knows, but don't forget that both Desmond and Dave told Jack and Hurley (respectively), "see you in another life." There's a connection there.

5. Did Henry tell the truth about not pushing the button?
---once again...who knows. Makes you want to watch next week though, doesn't it? The writers are geniouses.

6. Obviously food is getting dropped to whomever is in the hatch. Why no plane sightings.
Hence the lockdown. It was to keep people from going outside. As far as the survivors not seeing the plane, that leaves a little to the imagination. The plane may have been flying extremely high, so they couldn't see it. All they would have had to have done is use the huge magnet they used to bring down the plane to draw the parachute into the island.

7. How did Locke end up parylyzed?
---I believe in the first season he refers to it as an "accident." I want to say he was hit by a car, but I'm not sure. I'm sure we'll find out about it in a flashback (probably next season). 4 episodes left in season 2 and we just had a Lock-centric episode.

Now for my questions:
1.Why the hell haven't Claire and Kate showed everybody else (mainly Jack and Lock), the other hatch that they know about as well as "the others" disguises they found at that hatch?

2. Why don't they all just gang up on Sawyer when he's sleeping and take the damn guns away from him?

3. This is just a feeling I have...I'd bet my left nut that one of the survivors is an "other," and is actually working as an insider for the Hanso Corp. Who is it?

4. Who is the father of Sun's baby? It's one of the following: Jin, the Korean fellow that taught her English, or Michael...yes, Michael. Just wait til that baby comes out dark skinned and Jin goes AWOL.

BigOlChiefsfan
04-07-2006, 07:12 PM
4. Who is the father of Sun's baby? It's one of the following: Jin, the Korean fellow that taught her English, or Michael...yes, Michael. Just wait til that baby comes out dark skinned and Jin goes AWOL.

Don't forget, she was kidnapped by Sawyer/Charlie, knocked out w/a bag over her head. Who's to say that one of those two upstanding citizens didn't sneak in an unconcious-Sun boink while they had the chance. That baby might pop out with a full beard and a real bad attitude. Hurley might have to kick some preemie ass.

ChiefsFanatic
04-07-2006, 11:20 PM
Is the prisoner Kelvin maybe? Maybe that is why it took him a split second to memorize the numbers.

KingPriest2
04-13-2006, 01:42 PM
Lost Cast to be Culled by Catastrophe? 4/11/06

Lost star Naveen Andrews is terrified his character Sayid may be killed off, because the show is ending the second season with a catastrophic event.

The star claims the entire cast is on edge because of the volatile nature of the series.

He explains, "I know something catastrophic and violent is going to happen at the end of this season. So we all sort of sit around in fear.

"All of us are pretty concerned about being relieved of our duties over in Hawaii. It's the kind of job where you can't be too complacent.

"You can't just put your feet up and take it easy. It could happen at anytime."

ChiefsFanatic
04-16-2006, 11:20 PM
I was just watching season 4 of Alias on DVD, and in the 3rd episode Sydney is having a party for Weiss, and Charlie's song, You All Everybody, was playing on the stereo.

I know both of these shows were created by J.J. Abrams. I just thought it was a cool little detail.

ct
04-17-2006, 07:53 AM
4. Who is the father of Sun's baby? It's one of the following: Jin, the Korean fellow that taught her English, or Michael...yes, Michael. Just wait til that baby comes out dark skinned and Jin goes AWOL.

Don't forget, she was kidnapped by Sawyer/Charlie, knocked out w/a bag over her head. Who's to say that one of those two upstanding citizens didn't sneak in an unconcious-Sun boink while they had the chance. That baby might pop out with a full beard and a real bad attitude. Hurley might have to kick some preemie ass.

I feel pretty sure that Jin is the father. Last episode had an exchange b/n Locke and Rose. Rose knows that Locke was also 'healed' by the island, just as she was. Seems a pretty fair assumption that Jin was healed as well.

1. Where the hell is Micheal?
----still off looking for Walt. Use your imagination...he's probably captured.

Michael returns with the next new episode. Guess we'll find out then eh?

ChiefsFanatic
04-17-2006, 04:49 PM
I was just watching season 4 of Alias on DVD, and in the 3rd episode Sydney is having a party for Weiss, and Charlie's song, You All Everybody, was playing on the stereo.

I know both of these shows were created by J.J. Abrams. I just thought it was a cool little detail.

Maybe it was just me.

Guru
04-18-2006, 01:01 AM
I was just watching season 4 of Alias on DVD, and in the 3rd episode Sydney is having a party for Weiss, and Charlie's song, You All Everybody, was playing on the stereo.

I know both of these shows were created by J.J. Abrams. I just thought it was a cool little detail.


I heard about that but haven't seen a rerun of that episode yet to actually hear it.

Mecca
04-18-2006, 01:06 AM
My god I've never seen any of these shows.......I must really not be a TV buff.

ct
04-25-2006, 07:41 AM
New stuff coming out.

From an e-mail a friend sent me:

LOST Alternate Reality Game?
In the March 28th episode of the official LOST podcast, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse made references to a new online "mystery" endeavor that would include an updated Hanso Foundation site. Well, word is starting to leak out http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/the-lost-experience-alternate-reality-game-168184.php that there may be a LOST alternate reality game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game) launching soon. According to someone who bills themselves as an ABC insider:
"ABC, Channel 4 Television in the U.K, and Australia Channel 7 will launch the “Lost Experience,” a revolutionary interactive experience based on the international hit television series, “Lost”. Working together, more than 30 broadcasters from Europe, Africa, Asia Pacific and the Middle East will release clues with new information regarding the mystery and mythology of the island featured in the series. Fans looking to solve the puzzle will find audio, video, and text clues in locations around the world, along with an online community in which to connect and collaborate with others. Just like any other good mystery, clues can and will happen anywhere at anytime across multiple platforms."
Is this the same thing Cuse and Lindelof were talking about? There's already speculation, or at least hope, that the same minds behind A.I.'s The Beast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_%28game%29) , and the Halo 2 ilovebees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilovebees) alternate reality games might be bringing this "LOST Experience" to life. In fact, the cloudmakers (http://www.cloudmakers.org/) are already talking about forming again to take on this new game.
Of course, as a podcast focused on the mysteries, speculation and theories surrounding the show, LOSTCasts will be knee deep in this when it launches... if it launches. And we hope it does.


There's a new ABC website:

http://www.megalottojackpot.com/

This is the lotto that Hurley won. Take a look at the dates on some of the other winners' checks. Now add "images" to the end of the url.

http://www.megalottojackpot.com/images/

I'm especially interested in these, (but others are curious too):

http://www.megalottojackpot.com/images/willmakeyouhappy.jpg
http://www.megalottojackpot.com/images/dharma_progression.gif
http://www.megalottojackpot.com/images/easteregg.gif (you can also find this via a link on the main page, under "I saw the lights" image, but it's a hidden link)
http://www.megalottojackpot.com/images/winwasher.jpg (This washer/dryer set look familiar?)
http://www.megalottojackpot.com/images/tom_aire.jpg (does this guy look a bit familiar?)

That's all I got for now.

KingPriest2
05-03-2006, 01:39 PM
bump

Frazod
05-03-2006, 01:56 PM
I've just about had it with these assholes and their month-long breaks between new episodes - not to mention those tedious "imagine you're on a desert island recap" shows.

Tonight's episode damn well better be worth the wait. I'm poised to jump off the bandwagon. :mad:

Mile High Mania
05-03-2006, 03:11 PM
If you scroll over some of the words on that lottery URL, it takes you to other sites... move your cursor around and check it out. Just more madness.

Mile High Mania
05-03-2006, 03:14 PM
There's a URL link for Atlas Hosting in one of the words... I called it and some sleepy sounding guy named Chris answered. Odd... I asked what his affilliation to the show LOST is and he said there isn't one and while he hosts the megalotto URL, it was a spoof. So, it appears to be nothing more than a LOST fan with more time on his hands than those on the island.

Ari Chi3fs
05-03-2006, 03:50 PM
Luckily that Island Recap show, actually made me watch it, to catch up on the show. Now, after two years, having watched ONLY the island recap show... Im gonna watch a bit more. My wife loves the show, so its an opportunity to bond, i s'pose.

KingPriest2
05-03-2006, 04:26 PM
I've just about had it with these assholes and their month-long breaks between new episodes - not to mention those tedious "imagine you're on a desert island recap" shows.

Tonight's episode damn well better be worth the wait. I'm poised to jump off the bandwagon. :mad:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=138626

'Lost' producers lobby for scheduling change Topic Starter

KingPriest2
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Joined: Oct 2002
Location: KCMO I know there is the official thread but I thought this would be a exeception
'Lost' producers lI obby for scheduling change
Tuesday, April 4 2006, 20:50 BST - by Neil Wilkes


The producers of Lost are seeking a new scheduling model for the show in the US to curb the frequency of repeats.

Most US series, including Lost, typically air 22 new episodes each season over a period of 36 weeks, meaning that new episodes are often punctuated with repeats of old episodes.

US Lost fans have complained that having to wait many weeks for a new episode has ruined their enjoyment of the show.

24 has successfully avoided the problem by delaying its return from September to January each year before airing its full season without interruption.

Although Lost's broadcaster, ABC, is unwilling to adopt a similar strategy, show producers have come up with a compromise solution.

"We're lobbying ABC for when the show is on, it's on, and when it's off, it's off," exec producer Damon Lindelof told E! Online. "So, we want to air it in three acts next year. You know, blocks of seven, seven and eight. But in order to do that, we have to roll the show out in October instead of September, and hopefully that will work out."

BigOlChiefsfan
05-03-2006, 08:09 PM
Dang shame. Never shoot the cute women on an island. Doesn't he know that island lackanookie leads to onanism, or worse.

I assume this will all become clear later. For now it's pretty mysterious.

Mile High Mania
05-03-2006, 08:11 PM
Well ... I didn't see that coming until he took the gun from her and I thought "this is gonna take a left turn".

DMAC
05-03-2006, 08:46 PM
We have found the theme of the show. Everyone will slowly get shot over the next 10 seasons, which will end the show. And nothing will ever get answered or accomplished.

Bearcat
05-03-2006, 09:07 PM
I finally shook the addiction... haven't watched for a few weeks (well, probably only missed one new episode :rolleyes: ), and never even thought about it this week until seeing this thread.





So.... what happened?


:p

DMAC
05-03-2006, 09:12 PM
I finally shook the addiction... haven't watched for a few weeks (well, probably only missed one new episode :rolleyes: ), and never even thought about it this week until seeing this thread.





So.... what happened?


:pJust things that make you want to know more, you know, the usual.

Psyko Tek
05-03-2006, 09:18 PM
The Island has spoken....


people with DWI's and lesbian tendancies shall die

such is the law of the island

Chiefnj
05-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Who called the Hanso Foundation and what did it say?

chiefs4me
05-03-2006, 09:28 PM
OMG..he killed them both..wtf

redngold85
05-03-2006, 09:32 PM
I had to work tonight and my VCR didn't record the new episode

work + homework - NEW EPISODE OF LOST = pissed, angry, upset...

this is one of those equations with multiple answers

Bearcat
05-03-2006, 09:41 PM
I had to work tonight and my VCR didn't record the new episode

work + homework - NEW EPISODE OF LOST = pissed, angry, upset...

this is one of those equations with multiple answers

Doesn't ABC have that new feature on their website where you can watch the full episodes? You might check that out :shrug:

Mile High Mania
05-03-2006, 09:58 PM
I was curious to know if anyone called that Hanso #, I wasn't quick enough to write it down.

redngold85
05-03-2006, 10:18 PM
Doesn't ABC have that new feature on their website where you can watch the full episodes? You might check that out :shrug:

YOU, my friend, are my new hero...the only downside is it's updated every Thursday, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow...but that's earlier than I'd get to watch it otherwise

THANKS!

Psyko Tek
05-03-2006, 10:19 PM
I was curious to know if anyone called that Hanso #, I wasn't quick enough to write it down.


tried was busy
1-877-hanso org

Ari Chi3fs
05-03-2006, 10:24 PM
Michael obviously became an "other" somehow...

Frazod
05-03-2006, 11:17 PM
Michael obviously became an "other" somehow...

I'm thinking they sent him on a mission to free the captured guy and kill Ana Lucia (damn shame, but SHIT that was a great plot twist :eek: ) in order to get Walt back.

Or at least that's what they told him.

Great episode. I'm not so pissed now. That was worth the wait.

DaneMcCloud
05-03-2006, 11:19 PM
I guess it was a good episode, but IMO, it was totally predictable from the start. Oh well, it least it wasn't a repeat.

picasso
05-03-2006, 11:25 PM
I knew Anna Lucia was toast from the start but I didn't think that Hurleys psycho babe would get snuffed.

Guru
05-03-2006, 11:28 PM
I guess it was a good episode, but IMO, it was totally predictable from the start. Oh well, it least it wasn't a repeat.


So you knew from the start of the episode that Anna Lucia and therapist chick would die due to Michael shooting them. I don't beleive you. :harumph:

Rausch
05-03-2006, 11:33 PM
This was the most predictable show in weeks.

"The Other" always knew he was going to get out, and that said, someone would have to fug up or betray someone.

Once Michael showed up that became obvious. I'll admit that fatty's girl and Anna getting shot weren't, but "the other" was obviously sent there for some reason.

Rausch
05-03-2006, 11:34 PM
Oh, and my bet is that the guy they have locked up is the leader of "the others."

Makes perfect sense...

Guru
05-03-2006, 11:38 PM
Oh, and my bet is that the guy they have locked up is the leader of "the others."

Makes perfect sense...


That has been my feeling as well. They can still throw the curveball into that though. It seems so obvious that I bet it won't be the case.

DaneMcCloud
05-03-2006, 11:39 PM
I knew Anna Lucia was toast from the start but I didn't think that Hurleys psycho babe would get snuffed.

Well, if you take in consideration the fact that the producers publicly stated that people would die before the season finale, both Watros and Rodriguez got DUI's in the past few months, along with the fact that Watros has a Pilot deal in development, I would say YES :)

Guru
05-03-2006, 11:39 PM
Doesn't ABC have that new feature on their website where you can watch the full episodes? You might check that out :shrug:


If only all the networks would do this. Screw Itunes.

Rausch
05-03-2006, 11:40 PM
That has been my feeling as well. They can still throw the curveball into that though. It seems so obvious that I bet it won't be the case.

It makes absolutely no sense to kill a guy who's got "recon info."

For him to say he's in jeopardy means he's not.

And for Michael to be willing to shoot his peers to rescue the guy?

Rausch
05-03-2006, 11:41 PM
If only all the networks would do this. Screw Itunes.

Good luck with that, they've become the microsoft of downloadable content...

Guru
05-03-2006, 11:44 PM
Good luck with that, they've become the microsoft of downloadable content...


Gotta love the monopolies. :banghead:

ExtremeChief
05-03-2006, 11:53 PM
My DVR stopped recording right after Micheal said, "I'm sorry."

So then he killed Ana Lucia I gathered... what else happened?

Guru
05-03-2006, 11:55 PM
My DVR stopped recording right after Micheal said, "I'm sorry."

So then he killed Ana Lucia I gathered... what else happened?


He shot Hurly's crush twice in the abdomen. Then shot himself in the arm.

ExtremeChief
05-03-2006, 11:55 PM
Did Hurley's crush show up in the hatch and that's why he had to shoot her?

DaneMcCloud
05-03-2006, 11:56 PM
He shot Hurly's crush twice in the abdomen. Then shot himself in the arm.

Then he performed auto-fellatio and they cut to commercial.

Guru
05-04-2006, 12:20 AM
Did Hurley's crush show up in the hatch and that's why he had to shoot her?

Yep

BigOlChiefsfan
05-04-2006, 05:49 AM
Then he performed auto-fellatio and they cut to commercial.

Just a plot summary will suffice, probably don't need a blow by blow description. ba da boom psssh

Chiefnj
05-04-2006, 06:44 AM
It makes absolutely no sense to kill a guy who's got "recon info."

For him to say he's in jeopardy means he's not.

And for Michael to be willing to shoot his peers to rescue the guy?

How do you know Michael was rescuing the guy as opposed to setting up a war between the camps in order to save Walt.

cadmonkey
05-04-2006, 06:47 AM
Well WTF.

First off, f*ck Sawyer for doing the sneaky banging in the woods.

Second, apparently you shouldn't get drunk in Hawaii or else you'll be shoot and killed off a show.

tomahawk kid
05-04-2006, 07:04 AM
How do you know Michael was rescuing the guy as opposed to setting up a war between the camps in order to save Walt.


That's what I was thinking too.

Both seem to be viable possibilities.

The last 5 minutes of the show were crazy.

Baby Lee
05-04-2006, 08:18 AM
Second, apparently you shouldn't get drunk in Hawaii or else you'll be shoot and killed off a show.
I think my bona fides as a Lost-pologist are set pretty firmly.
But if Libby is indeed killed off, I'll be pissed.
Not so much because I like the character, but in the weeks before the DUI, the writers were talking up the big juicy role they had planned for her, and how her backstory would shake everything up.
Then she gets a DUI, and it's all out the window with their meticulously planned, 4 year story arc.
First concrete sign that they're not gonna deliver on their promise, all because some nudnick at ABC/Disney got his panties in a wad about an actor's personal life.

KCTitus
05-04-2006, 08:33 AM
I think my bona fides as a Lost-pologist are set pretty firmly.
But if Libby is indeed killed off, I'll be pissed.
Not so much because I like the character, but in the weeks before the DUI, the writers were talking up the big juicy role they had planned for her, and how her backstory would shake everything up.
Then she gets a DUI, and it's all out the window with their meticulously planned, 4 year story arc.
First concrete sign that they're not gonna deliver on their promise, all because some nudnick at ABC/Disney got his panties in a wad about an actor's personal life.

If so, this disappoints me somewhat. I realize that scripts get re-written and plot twists made for actor/actress changes, etc, but in this case, with so many subplots going on, it tells me the story is nearly as fine as they try to make it appear.

Baby Lee
05-04-2006, 09:18 AM
Semi-spoiler-ish interview with the writers. Won't get into specifics, except to note that it was posted IMMEDIATELY following last night's episode.

http://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049

Baby Lee
05-04-2006, 09:19 AM
Anyone else notice that JackDad's and Ana-L's fake names [Sarah and Tom] were the names of Kate and Jack's respective flashback loves.

ct
05-04-2006, 10:19 AM
Libby's not dead, Ana Lucia is. I knew AL was gettin bumped off, the writers have hinted about for awhile. But I did make the comment after Michael had shot them both, "Another reason to not drink and drive." I just thought it was pretty funny those 2 got whacked (or so they want us to think).

Michael obviously HAD to free "Henry", as instructed by The Others. He's trying to negotiate Walt's release. Of course, they won't, so the plot thickens.

ct
05-04-2006, 10:21 AM
Anyone else notice that JackDad's and Ana-L's fake names [Sarah and Tom] were the names of Kate and Jack's respective flashback loves.

I thought that was interesting too. So Jack's Dad has some 2nd life with that blonde chick down under maybe? He was telling her he wanted to see her. A daughter perhaps?

DaneMcCloud
05-04-2006, 11:08 AM
Libby's not dead, Ana Lucia is. I knew AL was gettin bumped off, the writers have hinted about for awhile. But I did make the comment after Michael had shot them both, "Another reason to not drink and drive." I just thought it was pretty funny those 2 got whacked (or so they want us to think).

Michael obviously HAD to free "Henry", as instructed by The Others. He's trying to negotiate Walt's release. Of course, they won't, so the plot thickens.

Well if Libby's not dead (as you say), how is that she's got a Pilot deal and a new TV series in development? She can't do both. IF she's not dead, she'll be dead soon. The producers have already said she's dead in a few articles and were worried about how it would look after both characters got DUI's (which happened AFTER their scenes were shot).

Libby is dead.

JakeT
05-04-2006, 12:10 PM
I thought that was interesting too. So Jack's Dad has some 2nd life with that blonde chick down under maybe? He was telling her he wanted to see her. A daughter perhaps?

Anyone want to bet that his daughter is Claire?

I hope they don't kill Libby yet we're still missing the story. If she dies now introducing her character was a complete waste.

ct
05-04-2006, 12:22 PM
Well if Libby's not dead (as you say), how is that she's got a Pilot deal and a new TV series in development? She can't do both. IF she's not dead, she'll be dead soon. The producers have already said she's dead in a few articles and were worried about how it would look after both characters got DUI's (which happened AFTER their scenes were shot).

Libby is dead.

I thought that was Michelle Rodrigez(Ana Lucia) who had the pilot.

BCD
05-04-2006, 12:22 PM
I think my bona fides as a Lost-pologist are set pretty firmly.
But if Libby is indeed killed off, I'll be pissed.
Not so much because I like the character, but in the weeks before the DUI, the writers were talking up the big juicy role they had planned for her, and how her backstory would shake everything up.
Then she gets a DUI, and it's all out the window with their meticulously planned, 4 year story arc.
First concrete sign that they're not gonna deliver on their promise, all because some nudnick at ABC/Disney got his panties in a wad about an actor's personal life.I thought Michelle Rodriguez got the DUI.

ct
05-04-2006, 12:24 PM
I thought Michelle Rodriguez got the DUI.

They both did, that's why it was so damn funny they both got shot. I don't think Libby, the blonde, is dead. Ana Lucia is done.

ct
05-04-2006, 12:24 PM
has anybody called the number?

1-877-hansorg
http://thehansofoundation.org

password is 'breaking strain'

ct
05-10-2006, 11:58 AM
the game continues...

http://www.slashfilm.com/article.php/20060509231408531

BCD
05-10-2006, 12:02 PM
They both did, that's why it was so damn funny they both got shot. I don't think Libby, the blonde, is dead. Ana Lucia is done.Heh. That is funny...

Mile High Mania
05-10-2006, 01:20 PM
play on that site and the time changes to "OB EY"... click it

ct
05-10-2006, 01:41 PM
play on that site and the time changes to "OB EY"... click it

never saw that, will try it

Dartgod
05-10-2006, 01:56 PM
play on that site and the time changes to "OB EY"... click it
How do you get it to change?

Mile High Mania
05-10-2006, 02:10 PM
Check this out. http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?threadID=1065808&forumStart=0

Ari Chi3fs
05-10-2006, 02:21 PM
play on that site and the time changes to "OB EY"... click it

Nice... I went to that other site... and I was given a code

HEIR APPARENT

Where would I use a code?

arrowheadnation
05-10-2006, 02:22 PM
Michael is not an "Other"

Mile High Mania
05-10-2006, 02:28 PM
I think you have to do the newsletter thing first, type a name and enter "breakingstrain" as the password with no " ". Then, go to the BIO click the second guy and in that bubble type Heir Apparent.

Mile High Mania
05-10-2006, 02:28 PM
The producers of LOST are probably laughing their asses at the hits these sites are getting... we're as nutty as those assclowns punching the numbers into the computer in the hatch.

Ari Chi3fs
05-10-2006, 02:31 PM
ok... found the place... I saw that area earlier... but it doesnt work with Firefox for some reason.

heh.

Ari Chi3fs
05-10-2006, 02:53 PM
good times.

chiefs4me
05-10-2006, 05:39 PM
The clip I saw on tv had Libby actually saying she was gone from the show, but the Lost fan site says that she was saved by the bullets from the blankets she had in front of her.......so...I guess tonight we find out..:thumb:

Rausch
05-10-2006, 05:43 PM
Michael is not an "Other"

:hmmm:

chiefs4me
05-10-2006, 07:07 PM
AH HAAAAAAAAA...did you all see michael's face..:D

BigOlChiefsfan
05-10-2006, 07:16 PM
Lost Lesson number one: Don't **** with Mr. Eko.

KChiefs1
05-10-2006, 07:23 PM
Michael has been brainwashed by "the others"...they are probably holding Walt over his head...

Mile High Mania
05-10-2006, 07:53 PM
I actually liked this episode very much... just when you think you don't know wtf is going on, they prove it.

Ari Chi3fs
05-10-2006, 09:21 PM
The dreams with Eko's bro is pretty wild... the whole sequence of finding this hatch was interesting. Kind of a shame that their wasnt recording capabilities so that they could have seen Michael murders last week.

Next weeks episode looks incredible.

Dartgod
05-10-2006, 09:24 PM
Kind of a shame that their wasnt recording capabilities so that they could have seen Michael murders last week.

How do you know there wasn't?

Ari Chi3fs
05-10-2006, 09:36 PM
How do you know there wasn't?

didnt appear to have been in the PEARL hatch... of course, there were video cameras in that hatch, too... so someone, somewhere could have recorded it.

Im sure it will pop up. I was kind of saying... a shame that Locke and Eko didnt see the recordings tonight.

arrowheadnation
05-10-2006, 10:15 PM
Did you see that the Hanso commercial changed this week? Has anybody visited www.sublymonal.com yet? It gives you the password: Heir Apparent and then directs you to the Hanso Foundation website. I still can't get into Hanso website. Been trying since the show got over.

Guru
05-10-2006, 11:23 PM
Did you see that the Hanso commercial changed this week? Has anybody visited www.sublymonal.com yet? It gives you the password: Heir Apparent and then directs you to the Hanso Foundation website. I still can't get into Hanso website. Been trying since the show got over.


Be patient with it. After letting it refresh for about 15 minutes, it started loading. Not much on the page yet but it will be a fairly interactive site from the looks of it. A lot of tid bits about the ERI Electromagnetic Research Initiative. :hmmm:

arrowheadnation
05-10-2006, 11:39 PM
Ok...I've found out a little more. This is creepy as hell. Rather than me trying to explain it all, just go here and it will walk you through it. It's creepy.

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Thehansofoundation.org#9_May_2006

Guru
05-10-2006, 11:51 PM
Ok...I've found out a little more. This is creepy as hell. Rather than me trying to explain it all, just go here and it will walk you through it. It's creepy.

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Thehansofoundation.org#9_May_2006


Bizarre stuff. I haven't been able to get that movie to load yet.

DMAC
05-11-2006, 12:02 AM
I just about cried for that fat man.

Rausch
05-11-2006, 12:28 AM
Michael has been brainwashed by "the others"...they are probably holding Walt over his head...

You think?

Baby Lee
05-11-2006, 05:48 AM
I'm sorry I forgot the blankets.

Chiefnj
05-11-2006, 07:50 AM
Good episode last night that answered some important questions.

Where is Sayid? You've got an army guy/torturer/electronics expert who has been way too far in the background. He should have been in the hatch to watch Michael and Libby. Locke should bring him to the new bunker to see if he can get the other tv's working, etc.

Baby Lee
05-11-2006, 08:53 AM
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x20/copcars.jpg
ROFL

ct
05-11-2006, 09:35 AM
The dreams with Eko's bro is pretty wild... the whole sequence of finding this hatch was interesting. Kind of a shame that their wasnt recording capabilities so that they could have seen Michael murders last week.

Next weeks episode looks incredible.

That will come in time. You know John is dyin to know if Henry pushed the button. Then Michael will be exposed.

picasso
05-11-2006, 11:11 AM
If nobody has done it yet:
On the Hanso site go to the newsletter signup and type in HEIR APPARENT then the screen freaks out and you start to get a message asking you if you can read what they are typing (type in yes) and then it asks for a password. The password is BREAKINGSTRAIN which then logs you onto the Dharma computer system with some log on info from Persephone, whoever the hell that is. Then it disappears.

KCTitus
05-11-2006, 11:24 AM
So I missed roughly half of last nights show...I was in the room, but on the phone and didnt hear much.

Did the monitoring room mean that pushing the button was just BS and the person doing it was just being watched? What, if anything, came out of the second orientation film?

picasso
05-11-2006, 11:36 AM
Type HEIR APPARENT in every location yu can on the website. It will give you a ton of cool info. Use BREAKINGSTRAIN as your password wherever you go. Freaky stuff.

Chief Chief
05-11-2006, 11:37 AM
I voted for Taylor Hicks cuz he's such a chick-magnet.

Chiefnj
05-11-2006, 12:06 PM
So I missed roughly half of last nights show...I was in the room, but on the phone and didnt hear much.

Did the monitoring room mean that pushing the button was just BS and the person doing it was just being watched? What, if anything, came out of the second orientation film?

The orientation film had a scientist that looked like the same scientist from the other film, but he gave a different name and he had a good hand. The guy in the first film appeared to have a prosthetic hand.

[Side note: from the various websites around there is some type of book for sale called Bad Twin related to LOST. I'm not sure how big of a role it plays, or if there is a theory about the island having people with twins on it, one good - one bad. Someone who goes to the sites and enters passwords, etc., can clue us in.]

In the film they say they are to observe the people in the swan and right down evertything they see. When they fill up a notebook with observations, they are to put it into a pneumatic tube that sends it to the people in charge. The people in the Swan are part of an experiment where they have to do certain acts or they believe something bad will happen.

Thus, it appears that entering the numbers was just a test to see if people would really do it. Locke got all pissed off about his meaningless life, but Eko told him he needed faith more than ever and explained his whole story with his brother and the plane, etc.

BCD
05-11-2006, 12:09 PM
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x20/copcars.jpg
ROFLWhoa. Thats ****ed up.

ct
05-11-2006, 12:28 PM
The orientation film had a scientist that looked like the same scientist from the other film, but he gave a different name and he had a good hand. The guy in the first film appeared to have a prosthetic hand.

[Side note: from the various websites around there is some type of book for sale called Bad Twin related to LOST. I'm not sure how big of a role it plays, or if there is a theory about the island having people with twins on it, one good - one bad. Someone who goes to the sites and enters passwords, etc., can clue us in.]

In the film they say they are to observe the people in the swan and right down evertything they see. When they fill up a notebook with observations, they are to put it into a pneumatic tube that sends it to the people in charge. The people in the Swan are part of an experiment where they have to do certain acts or they believe something bad will happen.

Thus, it appears that entering the numbers was just a test to see if people would really do it. Locke got all pissed off about his meaningless life, but Eko told him he needed faith more than ever and explained his whole story with his brother and the plane, etc.

The Pearl orientation film does imply that the Swan actions are meaningless, but does not specifically say that.

Interesting observation about the film Dr., I just assumed it was the same guy.

Regarding the Bad Twin book, that is the manuscript that Sawyer has been reading. Allegedly written by a guy on the plane who died in the crash. Check out these sites, for an 'official' response by the Hanso Foundation regarding the book:

http://www.slashfilm.com/article.php/20060509231408531

Real Newspaper Ad (http://newspaperads.philly.com/rop/ads.aspx?advid=408750&adid=2947506&cat=5804)

KCTitus
05-11-2006, 01:00 PM
Interesting...they should try to track down where the tubes go. I notice tubes coming out of the hatches opening opposite the ladder.

It was kind of funny when they discovered the hatch, I thought it was going to be next season before they made it in. I was amazed it only took 2 minutes to get in and down the shaft...quite a bit different than the first hatch.

Chief Chief
05-11-2006, 02:35 PM
Okay, I need your reponses to the following questions:

1) Which one is the most desperate housewife?

2) Which is the least desperate?

3) Which one turns you on the most?

4) Which one should be killed off and how?

5) Who killed Kenny?

Jus' wonderin'...

KChiefs1
05-13-2006, 12:48 PM
SPOILER ALERT! Major plotlines revealed!

Among the many theories that have been formulated to explain the island, the monster, the numbers, and the 666 additional mysteries lurking within ABC's Emmy-winning drama Lost, the most popular is that the passengers of Oceanic flight 815 are stuck in purgatory. But here in a lush thicket of jungle on Oahu, life bears a closer resemblance to a ring of hell reserved for torturing pretty Hollywood actors.

In the shadow of a crooked tree, Matthew Fox (Jack) and Evangeline Lilly (Kate) bat away hungry gnats dive-bombing their glistening skin. Outside the vine-choked doors of the hatch, Harold Perrineau (Michael) is being painted with sticky fake blood. And stomping through the underbrush is Josh Holloway (Sawyer), his dimpled mug pinched with panic. Things are a little crazy around here today, since sequences for the final four hours of Lost's brilliantly puzzling second season are being shot concurrently. And — oops — Holloway prepared for the wrong scene. Now he's cramming for a cumbersome mouthful of typical Sawyer snark. '''The artist formerly known as Henry Gale' — what is that?'' says the actor, shaking his head. He asks if he can ditch the tricky quip. Nope. Make it work, he's told.

And he does, though the scene itself ends tragically, with Jack and the gang learning that Ana Lucia (Michelle Rodriguez) and Libby (Cynthia Watros) have been shot — by Michael, no less, though he has pinned their murders on that duplicitous Gale guy. Now the stage has been set for a fateful confrontation with the ominous, jungle-dwelling Others in the two-hour May 24 season finale. ''Being the one who pulled the trigger was freaky,'' says Perrineau. ''The hatch used to feel like a safe haven. Now ghosts live there.'' Burying his wildly bearded face in his hands, he half jokes: ''Why am I doing this career? I don't have to kill anyone if I work construction!''
Such is the soul-searching that takes place when you're part of the most enigmatic enterprise on television. In fact, a visit to the set of the cult pop phenomenon suggests a new Big Theory for the show: Lost has become an allegory for itself. A group of people on an island, their fates shaped by unseen, life-threatening Others — namely, the show's Burbank-based writers, and the 15.3 million viewers who are simultaneously fascinated by and frustrated with its peekaboo plot development. ''I've never had a truer sense of not knowing what the hell is going on than I've had working on this show,'' says Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Mr. Eko). ''The only way you can influence your fate is to put your soul into your performance and hope it registers with the audience.''

If there were ever a time for Lost's cast to make a good impression, it would be now. In a clearing of crunchy grass, the nefarious Mr. Friendly (M.C. Gainey) twirls a bolo and barks at his fellow Others: ''Don't shoot! We need him.'' At the beach, long-lost button pusher Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick) chugs from a bottle of booze and spills a secret. (Hint: It's sick.) Down in the hatch, Eko mops up Libby's blood and speaks of damnation. And as they load their weapons, Jack and Sawyer bond over the memory of Ana Lucia. ''At least I get to kill somebody now,'' says Sawyer, cocking his shotgun with an emphatic crack. ''Brutal'' is how Naveen Andrews (Sayid) describes the finale. ''People here are scared. They want to know if they're going to survive.''

Fox, on the other hand, calls it ''mind-blowing. It leaves us scattered and vulnerable in the face of a larger foe — or who we think is a larger foe — and walks us right up to the start of next season.''

Executive producer Damon Lindelof vows a darker and more revealing finale than last year's still-unresolved Walt-napping, and that inconclusive peek into the hatch. This time, we'll see Walt again, learn what caused Oceanic flight 815 to crash, find out what that mysterious button actually does (if anything), and more. Lost co-pilots Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are already sweating the feedback. Their sophomore-season ambition was to spin a complex and surprisingly personal story that pushed the Lost saga to a defining moment. Now it's time to face the judges. ''I feel like we've been practicing a dive in anticipation of the Olympics,'' says Lindelof. ''But until we break through the surface, and hear the audience reaction, we won't know if we've executed it.''

Secrets and lies, scams and conspiracies, mystical visions and mind games, all embedded with densely coded allusions and other distracting tidbits — that's been the Matrix-y stuff of Lost's second year, one that was perfectly epitomized by the big reveal of the island's fabled monster: a tentacle of billowing black smoke, flickering with fleeting images. Lost used to be merely intriguing: Now it's about as shifty as a White House press conference. ''Season 1 was about 'Here we are,''' explains Lindelof. ''Season 2 has been going deeper: 'What is our reality? Are we really here? Is this even a place on the planet?'''

Lindelof and Cuse (who came aboard when co-creator J.J. Abrams left after Lost's seventh episode to direct Mission: Impossible III) began sussing out season 2 last spring by brainstorming the contents of the show's Pandora's box: the hatch, a quarantined bunker buried beneath the jungle. The producers always had some general ideas, but now they had specific names. Desmond. Alvar Hanso. Dr. Marvin Candle. The Dharma Initiative. And the button, a computer key that must be pushed every 108 minutes lest...something happen. ''When they pitched the button, my first reaction was 'No f---ing way!' And I mean that in a good way,'' says ABC Entertainment president Stephen McPherson, who denies rumors that the network mandated the hit series steer clear of the sci-fi side of the road. ''I'm constantly amazed by their imaginations.''

Lost's shepherds are also deep-thinking guys whose soulful concerns are imprinted on the show. Lindelof, 33, and Cuse, 47, both speak of spiritual awakenings during adulthood; they aspire to use Lost as a vehicle to tell stories of redemption and, according to Cuse, explore the question of ''how does one lead a life.'' During the show's conception, Lindelof was grappling with an array of internal debates prompted by the death of his father. At the same time, he was falling in love with his future wife, and finding the spiritual connection he was seeking through exposure to her Catholic beliefs. ''For me,'' he says, ''Lost is about meaning — and the search for meaning.''

For the actors tasked with embodying this journey, season 2 has required a risky leap of faith, and not just because they're usually kept in the dark about the plot. (Says Yunjin Kim, who plays Sun: ''When a character reaches some kind of redemption, perhaps it's time to start packing your bag.'') The cast was warned that new characters and an infusion of island mythology were likely to yield a different kind of show from season 1 — and less screen time. ''It hasn't been easy,'' says Dominic Monaghan (Charlie). ''I like to work. You just have to submit to the storytelling.'' Adds Daniel Dae Kim, who plays Jin: ''The challenge for all the actors now is to find our place in the mythology. Because clearly, if there is no place for us, we won't be around. The deaths on this show have shown that.''

Even the second season's central figures have wrestled with Lost's evolving texture, perhaps none more so than Terry O'Quinn, who has gone from boar-hunting mystic to hatch-trapped cosmic victim. ''I've told the producers that I miss the old John Locke,'' says O'Quinn. ''I wish he hadn't found those damn buttons sometimes. But these ups and downs reflect everybody's. You can't always choose the way things go. That's life.'' But those who persevere are rewarded with enlightenment. Holloway says he was baffled and bothered by all the fat jokes that producers were giving Sawyer to lob at Hurley (Jorge Garcia), not knowing they were setting the stage for Hurley's meltdown in April 5's trippy, I-see-imaginary-friends episode. Says Holloway: ''That's when I learned [to] trust these writers. They know what they're doing.''

Wellll...almost. They did cast Michelle Rodriguez as Ana Lucia, whose surly portrayal of the haunted cop polarized audiences. ''In the case of Michelle, there seemed to be a split in opinion over what she was like as an actor and what she was like as a character,'' concedes Cuse. But ''we feel Michelle fulfilled the role we wrote for her.'' Ana Lucia's death, he adds, was always part of the plan, and in fact, the Blue Crush star requested a one-year tour of duty. But her rough edges did scuttle plans for a romance with Jack, and contributed to the decision to make the May 10 episode a double homicide. Watros, however, wasn't initially marked for death: ''We worried [Ana Lucia's] death might not have the [same] emotional resonance as if we had killed a sympathetic character. By adding Libby to the death toll, it would really intensify the audience's feeling toward Michael going into the final episodes,'' explains Cuse, who denies that Rodriguez and Watros were targeted because of their much-publicized arrests for drunk driving. While producers declined to reveal their original intentions for Libby, they will say that Hurley's secret loony-bin admirer will pop up in Desmond's flashback in the season finale, as well as other characters' flashbacks next year. (While Watros recently shot a CBS comedy pilot, she'll still be available for future Lost episodes.)

Additional plans for Lost's third season are also taking shape. There will be new locations and new characters (one rumor has Desmond joining the cast full-time, but producers won't comment). The season's big theme sounds timely, twisty, and terrifying. Hints Lindelof: '''Us versus Them.' But who's the 'us,' and who's the 'them'?'' And perhaps the most promising tease of all for Lost fans will be a welcome change in ABC's erratic, repeat-heavy scheduling of the show, which the producers believe has hindered their serialized storytelling. McPherson doesn't disagree. ''The ideal schedule for this series would be to run for 22 consecutive weeks,'' he says. ''But we have a 35-week season. We are looking at a number of scenarios, like the possibility of three huge chunks.''

Of course, another theory could explain why Lost is down about 200,000 viewers from last year (and it's not just because it now faces American Idol's results show): Some viewers may simply have reached ambiguity overload. Truth is, Lost has to be judicious about plot development. Lindelof and Cuse say they would love to write the drama knowing that it had an end point, ideally about five seasons. But Cuse believes the show can survive on character-driven redemption tales for years, and both he and Lindelof recognize that Lost must deliver the goods, however long it's on the air. ''The more I hear about disgruntled Americans who believe there never was an exit strategy for Iraq, the more I understand why they want to know that the story we're telling has a...well, an exit strategy,'' says Lindelof. ''If they can't get answers to mysteries in real life, they most definitely want answers on their TV sets on Wednesday nights. And they deserve them.''

What those answers will be remains to be seen. Fox, at least, is willing to say what one of them won't be. ''Nobody is going to wake up on this show and mysteriously end up somewhere else.'' Promise? ''That's a promise.''

Told of Fox's pledge, Lindelof betrays a mischievous smirk. ''Well, then,'' he says, ''I guess we're going to have to do that.''

Like no show since The X-Files, Lost has inspired its fan base to become conspiracy-hunting, code-cracking sleuths hoping to find the Big Answer that explains the show. (They're currently playing the summertime Internet game The Lost Experience, which producers say reveals even more secrets about the Hanso Foundation.) We sifted through dozens of theories and ran five popular possibilities past Lost's producers and cast.

1. THE ISLAND IS PURGATORY

SYNOPSIS Oceanic flight 815 crashed. Everyone died. Some went to heaven, others to hell. The rest wound up in a dangerous purgatory, where they must work toward paradise — or risk tumbling into the inferno.

EVIDENCE FOR Everyone seems to have something for which they need to atone. So why would purgatory look like a Tahitian resort? Well, in the famous afterlife cosmology sketched by Dante, purgatory's highest point is the Garden of Eden.

EVIDENCE AGAINST Lost doesn't conform cleanly to any conventional explanation of purgatory. As for a more generalized application of the concept...well, that would be lame.

WHAT THEY SAY Debunked! Says Lindelof: ''We have said that this is not purgatory, but people don't want to believe it.... These human beings have hearts, and when those hearts stop beating, they are dead.''

2. IT'S ALL A HALLUCINATION

SYNOPSIS Reality on the island isn't exactly ''real.'' To boot: All characters are aspects of one person (usually attributed to Jack or potentially supernatural characters like Hurley and Walt); or everyone is still on the plane trying to survive massive turbulence by escaping into a mass delusion.

EVIDENCE FOR Hallucinations would neatly explain many things, like Walt's comic book polar bear and appearances by Jack's dad and Kate's horse. Also, conspicuous lit references like An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge suggest that not everything is what it seems...

EVIDENCE AGAINST ...or they could be red herrings, or serve another curious purpose. Also, Hurley's imaginary-friend episode, ''Dave,'' seemed to actually disprove hallucination theories. Besides, ''It's all a dream'' would have to be done brilliantly not to be a total cliché. And is Lost really going to rip off Dallas?

WHAT THEY SAY Debunked! (Sorta.) Carlton Cuse says that any hallucination theory that denies life-and-death stakes on the island isn't valid: ''You can't invest in the show if you think it's bulls---.''

3. IT'S A MUTANT HOTHOUSE

SYNOPSIS The most famous Internet theory argues that psychics are influencing the castaways for mysterious and possibly good reasons. British fan Andrew Smith's hypothesis is that the Dharma Initiative, as part of a sci-fi scheme to engineer war-free utopia, cultivated a group of superhuman beings (which may include some of the castaways) capable of wielding the island's electromagnetic energy.

EVIDENCE FOR Check it out for yourself at 4815162342.com. There are even cool illustrations.

EVIDENCE AGAINST Smith's theory — while inspired and well-researched — leans heavily on details from the orientation film. And as the May 10 episode suggested, Lost-ologists should reconsider the truthfulness of said film. Heck: Is Alvar Hanso even a real dude?

WHAT THEY SAY ''Incredibly imaginative, and obviously written by someone who watches very carefully,'' says Lindelof. ''But like all great closing arguments, it doesn't incorporate any moments from the show that wildly contradict it.''

4. HUMANITY IS ALMOST EXTINCT

SYNOPSIS A worldwide calamity (pandemic? nuclear war? meteor?) has wiped out the rest of humanity. By either happenstance or design, the Oceanic castaways survived the apocalypse.

EVIDENCE FOR Various pieces of Lost arcana could be interpreted as clues planted by the producers. In science, the catastrophe that killed the dinosaurs is called the ''K-T event.'' Does ''K-T'' = Kate? One K-T scenario posits that a star dubbed ''Nemesis,'' which orbits our sun, created some celestial bad weather that ultimately caused the death of T. rex and friends. In ''The Long Con,'' the words nemesis and sun are linked in dialogue between Sawyer and Charlie.

EVIDENCE AGAINST Those ''clues''? Crazy talk.

WHAT THEY SAY Even Sawyer has doubts. ''If the rest of the world is extinct,'' says Josh Holloway, ''then where did those Dharma supplies that dropped from the sky come from? Then again, this could be a big government experiment, and you know as well as I do [that] if we blow this world up, they're going to be in their little bunkers down there sipping cocktails. So maybe Dharma is part of that, and they're using the island to rebuild society — but better.''

5. MAD SCIENTISTS ARE TO BLAME

SYNOPSIS Passengers were brought to the island as guinea pigs in a wide range of experiments, like studying the effects of electromagnetic energy on humans. The monster (a.k.a. ''Cerberus'') is a watchdog whose primary job is to keep test subjects from straying outside the EM section of the island. The Others could also be test subjects...the scientists themselves...or a faction of ex-scientists who now oppose the experiments.

EVIDENCE FOR Electromagnetic energy may have healed Locke's legs, Rose's cancer, and Jin's infertility. The map in the hatch suggests a Dharma-explains-everything solution (that's where we got the Cerberus thing). And even if the map is bogus, the hatches and the Dharma supply drop suggest that an ''initiative'' is (or was) at work on the island.

EVIDENCE AGAINST ''The Other 48 Days'' episode clearly showed the plane crashing. Doesn't that seem like a really risky way to recruit lab rats?

WHAT THEY SAY This is the view most commonly held by the actors. Daniel Dae Kim thinks the castaways are part of ''a human ant farm'' run by the Dharma Initiative. Harold Perrineau's take is more ironic: He thinks scientists are using the island to test a new one-world religion. And Holloway has a darker view. ''The island is like a working machine. It's mobile, like the Death Star. That one thing — the button — keeps it from becoming the ultimate weapon.'' Then, flashing that dimpled Sawyer grin, he adds: ''Or whatever.''

Mile High Mania
05-17-2006, 07:09 PM
It's time...

BigOlChiefsfan
05-17-2006, 07:41 PM
junk...kerplunk

BigOlChiefsfan
05-17-2006, 07:52 PM
"they're not who they say they are...they're pretending"

Ari Chi3fs
05-17-2006, 08:09 PM
Next weeks episode is gonna rock.

ChiefsFanatic
05-18-2006, 01:58 AM
Next weeks episode is gonna rock.

I wanna see Sayid torture the hell out of Michael.
I wanna see Charlie finally score with Claire.
I wanna see Eko and Locke smash the crap out of each other [and I think I wanna see Locke win.]
I wanna see Sawyer be a hero.
I wanna Kate naked.
I wanna see Jack fall off his high horse.

AND I WANNA KNOW WTF IS REALLY GOING ON!

Guru
05-18-2006, 02:14 AM
I wanna see Sayid torture the hell out of Michael.
I wanna see Charlie finally score with Claire.
I wanna see Eko and Locke smash the crap out of each other [and I think I wanna see Locke win.]
I wanna see Sawyer be a hero.
I wanna Kate naked.
I wanna see Jack fall off his high horse.

AND I WANNA KNOW WTF IS REALLY GOING ON!


Well, it sounds like the viewers are finally going to get some answers next week. Of course, for every answer, there will probably be 3 new questions. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

KcMizzou
05-18-2006, 02:18 AM
I wanna see Sayid torture the hell out of Michael.
I wanna see Charlie finally score with Claire.
I wanna see Eko and Locke smash the crap out of each other [and I think I wanna see Locke win.]
I wanna see Sawyer be a hero.
I wanna Kate naked.
I wanna see Jack fall off his high horse.

AND I WANNA KNOW WTF IS REALLY GOING ON!$20 says you'll see one of those, if any.

ChiefsFanatic
05-18-2006, 02:26 AM
$20 says you'll see one of those, if any.

Any chance that one will be seeing Kate naked? I imagine Sawyer doing something heroic as the most likely. When Jack asked him why he was confessing about Ana, and he said something like "Cause Doc, you're the closest thing I have to a friend." it was one of the best moments of the year [for me]

KcMizzou
05-18-2006, 02:30 AM
Any chance that one will be seeing Kate naked? Well, I hope so, but I doubt it.

BCD
05-18-2006, 02:31 AM
I wanna see Sayid torture the hell out of Michael.
I wanna see Charlie finally score with Claire.
I wanna see Eko and Locke smash the crap out of each other [and I think I wanna see Locke win.]
I wanna see Sawyer be a hero.
I wanna Kate naked.
I wanna see Jack fall off his high horse.

AND I WANNA KNOW WTF IS REALLY GOING ON!Charlie has seen Kate naked. I want Kate and Claire in a 3-way!

BCD
05-18-2006, 02:33 AM
Next weeks episode is gonna rock.Yup. A lot of questions answered. Many more questions made. I have a good feeling that I'm going to be saying WTF a few times after next weeks finale.

Mile High Mania
05-18-2006, 05:44 AM
I'll bet nothing is really answered... just another damn tease with half answers, loosely connected associations and 12 more questions leading into Season 3.

kc1977
05-18-2006, 05:55 AM
I wanna see Sayid torture the hell out of Michael.
I wanna see Charlie finally score with Claire.
I wanna see Eko and Locke smash the crap out of each other [and I think I wanna see Locke win.]
I wanna see Sawyer be a hero.
I wanna Kate naked.
I wanna see Jack fall off his high horse.

AND I WANNA KNOW WTF IS REALLY GOING ON!

I wanna see Charlie get killed off.

Really - why would anyone want to see Charlie do anything - he has to be one of the most annoying, useless characters all time on any show.

ExtremeChief
05-18-2006, 07:50 AM
Anyone else see the ad for the Hanso Foundation, paid for by Jeep. The website addy is www.letyourcompassguideyou.com but it doesn't seem to want to load...

KCTitus
05-18-2006, 08:55 AM
"they're not who they say they are...they're pretending"

By far the most interesting line...So next week, 2 whole hours. Im hoping it's not 1hr 45 mins of crap followed by 15 minutes of 'answers'.

Baby Lee
05-18-2006, 08:59 AM
Can I get a wolf whistle for Alex the Krelboyne?

cadmonkey
05-18-2006, 09:03 AM
Do you think Sawyer told jack about getting it on with anna lucia because he thought "trapped in a net" meant he and kate did it, so he told him to get him back?

Chiefnj
05-18-2006, 09:17 AM
I wonder why they now want Kate, Jack and Sawyer. They had Kate once, could have taken Sawyer easily when he was floating around at sea, could have taken Jack numerous times, etc.

Eko seems to know Michael's secret.

They have to kill off a few more people to streamline the story a little better.

oldandslow
05-18-2006, 09:20 AM
Anyone else see the ad for the Hanso Foundation, paid for by Jeep. The website addy is www.letyourcompassguideyou.com but it doesn't seem to want to load...

yes, and it is truly screwed up...in a wierd way...be patient with it. It takes a while...and it wants you to "obey"

Bearcat
05-18-2006, 11:03 AM
I'll bet nothing is really answered... just another damn tease with half answers, loosely connected associations and 12 more questions leading into Season 3.


I read the 'next week's going to rock' and similar posts thinking what show you been watching the last 2 years? :spock:

Just watched this week's online, and it was pretty standard... Michael's a f***ing idiot and will probably get even more people killed.

The odd thing is that the boat was right there.... so I'm curious as to how they're going to get around what it's about, besides just ignoring it.

I don't generally like spoilers, but I kind of wish they had the preview of next week online... eh.

Mile High Mania
05-18-2006, 11:10 AM
Desmond is on the boat from what I've read. It's likely the boat he was sailing around the world in... I dunno.

We'll likely find out a potential reason why their plane crashed, I'm guessing they'll give us something to make us think that is the reason while it's just a ruse.

I wonder if it will end with something happening to Walt, while Locke smashes the computer causing the numbers to roll like crazy and the BAM... another plane crashes.

Mile High Mania
05-18-2006, 11:12 AM
Lots of wild ass rumors, speculations and spoilers here -> http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/forum?start=0&forumID=18&byThread=true

Chiefnj
05-18-2006, 11:48 AM
I don't generally like spoilers, but I kind of wish they had the preview of next week online... eh.

Try lostlinks.net or something like that. They have a preview of the season finale.

oldandslow
05-18-2006, 12:03 PM
If you truly want to be spoiled go to losttv-forum.com/forum...

then go to the spoilers section...

there are folks there that simply live the tv show - and know what they are talking about.

I used to read them but now stay in other sections because I found I did not like the show as much if I "knew" what was going to happen.

KChiefs1
05-18-2006, 12:27 PM
Lots of wild ass rumors, speculations and spoilers here -> http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/forum?start=0&forumID=18&byThread=true

http://www.putfile.com/essexben1/images

some interesting theories, observations & speculation:

a) the 4 names on the list have nothing in common other than they were the 4 remaining in the hatch after micheal shot the girls... for what ever reason and by some means- Klugh knew that... thats the important part of the list, not what they have in common...go back and watch- after the commotion in the swan hatch clears, whose in that circle of people... just the 4... its not like mike had to walk around and try to recruit them... they were the only 4 that knew outside of eko and locke- who have "more pressing" matters to attend to.

its got nothing to do withwho uis seeing things, or whos daddy does what... you are all thinking way too hard and forgetting to WATCH the show.

b) that boat- im pretty sure thats the boat mike wants- the other boat from before wouldnt get off the island, it would serve him no good because the others would just kidnap walt again- however, with it appearing on the shoreline, right when he is planning on leaving to GET walt is going to exclude him from the running on who is chosen to man this boat... the others are playing chess of sorts with mike... insuring they can get walt back.

c) note that klugh said that they CANT just go get henry back- another hint that the majority of the others cant cross the line???

As far as I can remember, Mike never called Hurley 'Hugo' before this episode. but Hugo was the name on the list so Mike calls him Hugo when he is trying to recruit him during the grave digging scene.
was Mike aware of this? did Hurley pick up on this?
if Mike screws up and calls Sawyer 'James' then the jig will be up adding more proof to Sayid's idea Mike had been comprimised.

KingPriest2
05-18-2006, 12:33 PM
http://www.putfile.com/essexben1/images

some interesting theories, observations & speculation:

a) the 4 names on the list have nothing in common other than they were the 4 remaining in the hatch after micheal shot the girls... for what ever reason and by some means- Klugh knew that... thats the important part of the list, not what they have in common...go back and watch- after the commotion in the swan hatch clears, whose in that circle of people... just the 4... its not like mike had to walk around and try to recruit them... they were the only 4 that knew outside of eko and locke- who have "more pressing" matters to attend to.

its got nothing to do withwho uis seeing things, or whos daddy does what... you are all thinking way too hard and forgetting to WATCH the show.
b) that boat- im pretty sure thats the boat mike wants- the other boat from before wouldnt get off the island, it would serve him no good because the others would just kidnap walt again- however, with it appearing on the shoreline, right when he is planning on leaving to GET walt is going to exclude him from the running on who is chosen to man this boat... the others are playing chess of sorts with mike... insuring they can get walt back.

c) note that klugh said that they CANT just go get henry back- another hint that the majority of the others cant cross the line???

As far as I can remember, Mike never called Hurley 'Hugo' before this episode. but Hugo was the name on the list so Mike calls him Hugo when he is trying to recruit him during the grave digging scene.
was Mike aware of this? did Hurley pick up on this?
if Mike screws up and calls Sawyer 'James' then the jig will be up adding more proof to Sayid's idea Mike had been comprimised.

I don't know if you have been paying any attention but the producers said everything has a reason.

Also he has heard Hugo's name before.

Baby Lee
05-18-2006, 12:36 PM
I don't know if you have been paying any attention but the producers said everything has a reason.

Also he has heard Hugo's name before.
I remember them reading the [I hope that someone finds my] Message in a Bottle, while on the raft and finding out 'Hugo Reyes' was one rich MFer. Can't remember if they figured out that Hurley was he.

ct
05-18-2006, 03:30 PM
My thoughts on why they want who they want:

Jack - Dr., an obvious reason, hence it may be something else. One of the Losties who have seen a vision on the island, his Dad.
Hugo - rich MFer, possible financier? Also, the numbers guy. Another who has seen a vision, his 'friend'.
Kate - Yet another who has seen a vision, the horse. Can't think of another reason other than she's a hottie, maybe "He" is bored, and wants a toy.
Sawyer - Slick con man, could be quite useful. Or perhaps just that he is a threat, and want to take him out.

Any other Losties who have seen a vision besides Jack, Hugo and Kate? Eko and Charlie had dreams, but not wakeful visions that I can recall. Shannon saw Walt, but they may have more to do with Walt's abilities than Shannon. Locke and Eko have both been face to face with 'da monster', but again I wouldn't call those visions.

Baby Lee
05-18-2006, 03:35 PM
My thoughts on why they want who they want:

Jack - Dr., an obvious reason, hence it may be something else. One of the Losties who have seen a vision on the island, his Dad.
Hugo - rich MFer, possible financier? Also, the numbers guy. Another who has seen a vision, his 'friend'.
Kate - Yet another who has seen a vision, the horse. Can't think of another reason other than she's a hottie, maybe "He" is bored, and wants a toy.
Sawyer - Slick con man, could be quite useful. Or perhaps just that he is a threat, and want to take him out.

Any other Losties who have seen a vision besides Jack, Hugo and Kate? Eko and Charlie had dreams, but not wakeful visions that I can recall. Shannon saw Walt, but they may have more to do with Walt's abilities than Shannon. Locke and Eko have both been face to face with 'da monster', but again I wouldn't call those visions.
Sayeed saw Walt too, but the visions of Walt were translucent and jumbled, while PappyJack, Black Beauty, and Dave were solid hallucinations.

ct
05-18-2006, 03:37 PM
Sayeed saw Walt too, but the visions of Walt were translucent and jumbled, while PappyJack, Black Beauty, and Dave were solid hallucinations.

Forgot Sayeed was there with Shannon too. Any other 'solid hallucinations' that I've forgotten?

I do recall Boone had quite a vision, but that was manually induced by Locke, so wouldn't really count that either.

JakeT
05-18-2006, 03:40 PM
My thoughts on why they want who they want:

Jack - Dr., an obvious reason, hence it may be something else. One of the Losties who have seen a vision on the island, his Dad.
Hugo - rich MFer, possible financier? Also, the numbers guy. Another who has seen a vision, his 'friend'.
Kate - Yet another who has seen a vision, the horse. Can't think of another reason other than she's a hottie, maybe "He" is bored, and wants a toy.
Sawyer - Slick con man, could be quite useful. Or perhaps just that he is a threat, and want to take him out.

Any other Losties who have seen a vision besides Jack, Hugo and Kate? Eko and Charlie had dreams, but not wakeful visions that I can recall. Shannon saw Walt, but they may have more to do with Walt's abilities than Shannon. Locke and Eko have both been face to face with 'da monster', but again I wouldn't call those visions.

That's interesting I've been trying to figure out why those 4. I can't quite remember but didn't Sawyer had some vision with a bore?

ct
05-18-2006, 03:44 PM
Sawyer did have an encounter with a boar, but many have had an encounter like that. Not sure about a vision.

Come to think of it, did a boar talk to him? :hmmm:

Baby Lee
05-18-2006, 03:46 PM
A few more observations
Ms. Klugh stated things have changed.
If Sawyer was so essential all along, why did they show him, blow up the raft and leave him for dead on the high seas?
The four 'needed' by Ms. Klugh were to four on the scene in the hatch after Locke skeedaddled with Mr. Ecko to find '?' d/t their concomitant dreams.

keg in kc
05-18-2006, 04:31 PM
The last few eps have just been amazing. I'm really getting into the show again. I just hope the cliffhanger(s) isn't too evil.

patteeu
05-18-2006, 05:27 PM
My guess on the cliffhanger is that the guys going with Michael will be taken captive by the Others while Sayed remains free in the jungle trying to figure out what to do about it.

KChiefs1
05-18-2006, 05:36 PM
the 4 names on the list have nothing in common other than they were the 4 remaining in the hatch after michael shot the girls

AZORChiefFan
05-18-2006, 07:45 PM
Can I get a wolf whistle for Alex the Krelboyne?

Here ya go!

Beatlemanu
05-19-2006, 01:33 PM
My guess on the cliffhanger is that the guys going with Michael will be taken captive by the Others while Sayed remains free in the jungle trying to figure out what to do about it.

You're probably right. Or maybe they will reveal that some of "the others" were actually on flight 815... probably not, but it might be interesting the find out who they are and why they are there.

Chiefnj
05-19-2006, 01:40 PM
the 4 names on the list have nothing in common other than they were the 4 remaining in the hatch after michael shot the girls

That doesn't make any sense to me. The list was drawn up before Michael was released. How would Clue/Klugh know who would be at the hatch; how Michael would release Fenry; who would be in the hatch to discover he was missing, etc. Clue/Klugh couldn't even give Michael an excuse as to why to bring those 4 alone, yet she could see into the future that those 4 would be in the hatch simultaneously for different reasons?

BigOlChiefsfan
05-24-2006, 08:30 PM
"I think I crashed your plane"

Mile High Mania
05-24-2006, 09:03 PM
Very interesting... several more WTF moments.

BigOlChiefsfan
05-24-2006, 09:03 PM
Well, I feel obligated to watch again next season, so their nefarious scheme worked.

Interesting little "Gift of the Magi" twist at the end.

Chief Chief
05-24-2006, 09:32 PM
I really enjoy coming to this site to read all your lame insights and pathetic questions...I have all the answers to the riddles and situations presented in "Lost"!

I do have to admit that I am absolutely stumped on this one mystery and I'm calling upon your so-called 'high' intellect and 'sharp' wits to solve it:

Just who exactly DID shoot J.R.?

KcMizzou
05-24-2006, 09:37 PM
I really enjoy coming to this site to read all your lame insights and pathetic questions...I have all the answers to the riddles and situations presented in "Lost"!

I do have to admit that I am absolutely stumped on this one mystery and I'm calling upon your so-called 'high' intellect and 'sharp' wits to solve it:

Just who exactly DID shoot J.R.?Well you're a charming little fella, aren't you?

Chief Chief
05-24-2006, 09:41 PM
Well, as a matter of fact, according to all the girls I've met, they'd agree with you on the "charming" and "fella"...but they'd totally say you're wrong regarding the "little"!!

morphius
05-24-2006, 09:50 PM
Well, as a matter of fact, according to all the girls I've met, they'd agree with you on the "charming" and "fella"...but they'd totally say you're wrong regarding the "little"!!
Right before they pat your head like all the other nice retards.

Raiderhater58
05-24-2006, 10:00 PM
Right before they pat your head like all the other nice retards.




HAHAHAHA

ChiefsKing
05-24-2006, 10:18 PM
The others are the good guys?

Guru
05-24-2006, 10:25 PM
The others are the good guys?


I didn't get that comment either.

Ari Chi3fs
05-24-2006, 11:12 PM
I believe that Desmonds Girlfriends, Dad has something to do with this. And Penny found out, learned about the island, and had those Russian dudes monitor for ElectroMagnetic buildup. Whitamore or whatever could be in charge of Dharma...

Who the **** knows though, eh?

The Pedestrian
05-24-2006, 11:19 PM
The others are the good guys?

Helluva superiority complex their little cult has, isn't it? What I don't get is how Desmond's ex-girlfriend could have known to look for the electro-magnectism without already knowing the location of the island. And if it was a conspiracy, why would she have the picture of her and him next to her bed if she wanted to keep him alive on that island?

The Pedestrian
05-24-2006, 11:21 PM
I believe that Desmonds Girlfriends, Dad has something to do with this. And Penny found out, learned about the island, and had those Russian dudes monitor for ElectroMagnetic buildup. Whitamore or whatever could be in charge of Dharma...

Who the **** knows though, eh?

It leaves the question of why Penny never went to visit, though.... Bah, this is going to be the reason I'll be watching the next season (and why I have a feeling that it'll be the last season).

Guru
05-24-2006, 11:23 PM
It leaves the question of why Penny never went to visit, though.... Bah, this is going to be the reason I'll be watching the next season (and why I have a feeling that it'll be the last season).


Rumor has it that the writers have this show planned out for 5 more seasons. :shake:

Guru
05-24-2006, 11:25 PM
Anybody checked out www.hansocareers.com yet? I don't really see why ABC is running all thes commercial for a fake company. I know there was a clue in the one they ran 2 weeks ago but I don't see anything is this weeks website.

The Pedestrian
05-24-2006, 11:30 PM
Rumor has it that the writers have this show planned out for 5 more seasons. :shake:

Perhaps they do...I just hope there's one helluva twist before things start to seem too redudant and stalled if that is the case.

Ari Chi3fs
05-24-2006, 11:33 PM
Anybody checked out www.hansocareers.com yet? I don't really see why ABC is running all thes commercial for a fake company. I know there was a clue in the one they ran 2 weeks ago but I don't see anything is this weeks website.


That is just marketing... if you looked at the ad, it said sponsored by Monster.com

A couple weeks ago, it was SubLYMONal.com which is sprite... and last weeks was a Jeep Ad, i believe.

Viral marketing at its finest. im sure we will be seeing more tv commerical tie-ins so that people watch more commercials instead of Tivoing them away.

beer bacon
05-24-2006, 11:59 PM
The others are the good guys?

They think of themselves as the good guys. Henry seems like the type that thinks the end justifies the means, and therefore wouldn't shirk at any foul deed needed in order to accomplish that end. The late Ethan and Goodwin seemed to be the same sort.

beer bacon
05-25-2006, 12:00 AM
Helluva superiority complex their little cult has, isn't it? What I don't get is how Desmond's ex-girlfriend could have known to look for the electro-magnectism without already knowing the location of the island. And if it was a conspiracy, why would she have the picture of her and him next to her bed if she wanted to keep him alive on that island?

I think Widmore labs is/was involved with Dharma/Hanso/the island at some point. Penelope would be able to at least access some sort of info about the island through her father and other connections with the company. Maybe her father planned out Desmond's trip, and she learned some details through him.

Rausch
05-25-2006, 12:16 AM
The themes have been laid out.

There are "good guys" and "bad guys" not based on their character but their actions.

All these characters have had choices, pinacles in their life, and based on these choices they are either worthy or not worthy of being taken by the others. The good have had opportunities to go wrong (or stay on the path) and the wrong have had opportunities to do good.

The idea of the inherent nature of man to be greedy and selfish and only dedicated to his own motives also plays into the idea of the button. To continue to push it requires the sacrifice of self (and perhaps sanity) to preserve the whole, while the motives to let the clock tick down are always selfish. Also, the idea of global warming/man-has-torched-the-ecosystem-and-now-it's-our-responsibility-to-right-it line of thinking.

Again, it's still a story about redemption, the reprocussions of our actions, and the moral journey of man.

The setting hasn't been solved because it's irrelevant. The idea is that everyone is less than the suggested 7 degrees of separation from everyone else. We're all connected. All of our decisions and actions count. Everything we do effects others in ways we don't realize at the time.

Our actions determine outcomes we can't imagine.

And even if Kate chugs days-old urine in a bottle she's still hot'ern teabagging a can of jalapenos...

Guru
05-25-2006, 12:24 AM
The themes have been laid out.

There are "good guys" and "bad guys" not based on their character but their actions.

All these characters have had choices, pinacles in their life, and based on these choices they are either worthy or not worthy of being taken by the others. The good have had opportunities to go wrong (or stay on the path) and the wrong have had opportunities to do good.

The idea of the inherent nature of man to be greedy and selfish and only dedicated to his own motives also plays into the idea of the button. To continue to push it requires the sacrifice of self (and perhaps sanity) to preserve the whole, while the motives to let the clock tick down are always selfish. Also, the idea of global warming/man-has-torched-the-ecosystem-and-now-it's-our-responsibility-to-right-it line of thinking.

Again, it's still a story about redemption, the reprocussions of our actions, and the moral journey of man.

The setting hasn't been solved because it's irrelevant. The idea is that everyone is less than the suggested 7 degrees of separation from everyone else. We're all connected. All of our decisions and actions count. Everything we do effects others in ways we don't realize at the time.

Our actions determine outcomes we can't imagine.

And even if Kate chugs days-old urine in a bottle she's still hot'ern teabagging a can of jalapenos...


Nice finish. :clap:

arrowheadnation
05-25-2006, 01:07 AM
I believe Widmore is in-cahoots with the Hanso Foundation. I believe there was an agreement that the Widmore Construction Company (seen in the backround when Driveshaft was taping a video) would "construct" the island for the Hanso Foundation and in return would receive revenues, fortune cookies, etc....I don't know. I believe we will not see much of Kate, Jack, nor Sawyer during the third season (much like Walt this season). The two men at the end were speaking Portugese, not Russian. That bird that flew out of the tree was saying "Hurley"....I turned my hearing impared captions on, and that's what it read. From what I've heard, the show creators are airing "Hanso Commercials" in 20 different countries and that fans will have to combine their various "findings" to figure things out. I know this paragraph is a mass of jumbled thoughts, but after watching that tonight.....I am indeed LOST.

Rausch
05-25-2006, 01:28 AM
Nice finish. :clap:

I know my audience... :)

keg in kc
05-25-2006, 01:57 AM
I loved it except for the very end.

And I swear I heard a deep, menacing voice say "Jin" when Jack was confronting Michael in the woods after they killed the Other.

Guru
05-25-2006, 02:25 AM
I loved it except for the very end.

And I swear I heard a deep, menacing voice say "Jin" when Jack was confronting Michael in the woods after they killed the Other.


I didn't catch that. I will have to rewind to that point and listen for it.

Chief Chief
05-25-2006, 06:40 AM
Just to clue ya'll in, this is the favorite joke of the writers of "Lost":

Question: How do you keep the viewers' attention?

Response: I don't know -- How?

(Repeat question and response ad infinitum)

KCTitus
05-25-2006, 07:13 AM
I had high hopes for this finale, but it paled in comparison to the 1 hour finale last year. Many questions were answered and they finally got into the hatch last year.

So what did we learn in 2 long hours separated by commercials every 10 minutes?

1. The button is apparently real and not real because you can 'shut it off'
2. The 'viewing' station isnt real
3. The Others do not live on the island

Desmond met and got a boat from Hurleys GF--I dont remember her name--to race around the world and her 'role' which was supposed to be explained in Desmond's 1.5 hour flashback wasnt. I guess the authors decided that explaing how she got from giving up the boat to mental institution was a waste of time (pause to snicker at the irony).

Advancing the plot line in the season finale didnt seem altogether important to the writers. I dont find either of the new story lines even remotely interesting. Ohhhh...Jack, Kate and Sawyer are going to the 'others' home and Hurley gets to stumble his butt back to camp to tell everyone else to 'stay away'. What of Sayed--we'll probably learn his fate come May 2007.

A couple of things occurred to me during one of the incessant commercials...why since the 'ghost/smoke' was revealed hasnt it been seen from since, but at the same time we got a new 'creature' in the hawk/eagle?

Now that the 'button' has been shutdown, what else is there to do for Locke and Eko? Build the church? That should make for riveting 3rd season.

keg in kc
05-25-2006, 07:20 AM
What of Sayed--we'll probably learn his fate come May 2007I didn't realize anything happened with Sayid. I thought I saw a shot of he and Jin/Sun on the boat towards the end.what else is there to do for Locke and Eko? If they're even alive.

There's a blurb on scifi.com's wire (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=36305) this morning, and apparently the themes for next year are....(drum roll)....learning about the Others...and.... .... romance.

Yay.

Anyway, while I enjoyed the episode, I have a problem grasping the whole Desmond storyline, or, rather, the timeline. The stuff in the stadium took place 3 years before the events on the island?

KCTitus
05-25-2006, 07:37 AM
I didn't realize anything happened with Sayid. I thought I saw a shot of he and Jin/Sun on the boat towards the end.If they're even alive.

Sayid landed on the shore where the 'huts' and other hatch were and searched the huts to find no one. He opened the previously guarded hatch doors and they were fake, the rock face was directly behind the doors. He starts the signal fire and that's when Jack realizes Walt set them up in a new location. This begs the question, was it just dumb luck that he didnt sail the way around opposite the dock where the Others took Jack and co?

There's a blurb on scifi.com's wire (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=36305) this morning, and apparently the themes for next year are....(drum roll)....learning about the Others...and.... .... romance.

Yay.

Ugh.

Anyway, while I enjoyed the episode, I have a problem grasping the whole Desmond storyline, or, rather, the timeline. The stuff in the stadium took place 3 years before the events on the island?

I got the same feeling...I felt like the Desmond flashback was a bit thrown together. The whole Penelope searching for the electromagnetic build up is terribly hokie. *edit* same with the 'foot' statue with 4 toes.

keg in kc
05-25-2006, 07:49 AM
Sayid landed on the shore where the 'huts' and other hatch were and searched the huts to find no one. He opened the previously guarded hatch doors and they were fake, the rock face was directly behind the doors. He starts the signal fire and that's when Jack realizes Walt set them up in a new location. This begs the question, was it just dumb luck that he didnt sail the way around opposite the dock where the Others took Jack and co? Dunno, but the Sayid shot I was talking about, on the boat, was in the montage towards the end, after Jack and co. were captured. So I think he just went back to the boat. I suppose that doesn't preclude him from sailing around the rocks to the dock. Wherever it is. Although it might be miles away from where the village was. I don't think that was established.

How is Hurley supposed to get back. He had a bag over his head the whole way there.

I kind of liked the giant 4-toed statue foot. It tosses the potential for mythology or lost civilization, that the island is maybe something more than dharmaland.

Chiefnj
05-25-2006, 08:02 AM
Do I have the Desmond story correct.

He was in the Scottish army but got tossed in jail and was dishonerably discharged. We aren't told why he was in jail except for that he didn't like to follow orders.

Prior to entering the Army he was in love with Penelope the daughter to a huge developer. The developer (Whitmore) didn't/doesn't like Desmond. He takes all the prison notes intended for Penelope and tries to buy off Desmond.

Desmond thinks he can win Whitmore's respect by winning a global yacht race. He lucks into Libby at a Starbucks who gives him her deceased husbands yacht.

Desmond races, gets in a bad storm, bumps his head and winds up on the Island with the CIA guy who taught Sayid how to torture.

Do we know how the CIA guy got on the island?

The CIA guy pushes the numbers daily but keeps Desmond in the dark and lies to him about the Island being contaminated and vaccines and airpacks, etc. Eventually Desmond pushes tough Mr. CIA guy and kills him with a simple bump on the head. That very same day during the struggle on the rocks, the countdown reached zero and by the time Desmond made it back to the hatch there was a buildup of nanometers that were released and caused the plane to crash.

I'm missing what exactly the key does. Does it serve the same function as entering the numbers?

Why wasn't Fenry alarmed when the sky turned colors and the piercing noise started, etc?

KCTitus
05-25-2006, 08:07 AM
Do I have the Desmond story correct.

You got it right...

The whole meeting of Libby and within hours(?), over a cup of coffee, she's giving him a sailboat that belonged to her dead husband. That kind of stuff happens to me at least semi annually.

Kclee
05-25-2006, 08:18 AM
You got it right...

The whole meeting of Libby and within hours(?), over a cup of coffee, she's giving him a sailboat that belonged to her dead husband.


Well, she was crazy.

Chiefnj
05-25-2006, 08:42 AM
You got it right...

The whole meeting of Libby and within hours(?), over a cup of coffee, she's giving him a sailboat that belonged to her dead husband. That kind of stuff happens to me at least semi annually.

Do you know if turning the key reset the system or turned it off completely?

The group of losties will be better served if Kate, Sawyer and Jack are all executed. They don't communicate enough to be effective leaders.

BCD
05-25-2006, 11:28 AM
I loved it except for the very end.

And I swear I heard a deep, menacing voice say "Jin" when Jack was confronting Michael in the woods after they killed the Other.I heard that, too. It certainly sounded like 'Jin', though I'm not sure if it wasn't just a noise...

keg in kc
05-25-2006, 11:34 AM
I heard that, too. It certainly sounded like 'Jin', though I'm not sure if it wasn't just a noise...I listened to it a few times. It seemed to be at least as much "Jin" as the bird's noise was "hurley". Or moreso. It may have been just a musical beat, but if it was, they sure made it stand out.

KingPriest2
05-25-2006, 12:10 PM
Jack may possibly be Alvar Hanso. Due to the fact that he has never been seen alone with an other, and no serious harm has come to him on his stay on the island. Jack is a good man witnessed by his sacrifice of immense amounts of blood to Boone to save his life. Alvar Hanso has been described as a "good man". Anytime he has been set back, it is easily explained. Like a fight with Ethan Rom where he couldn't win and used his wounds as proof that he had been bested. Ethan Rom may not have also known whom he was.
Could still look so young because of all the scientific pursuits of the Hanso foundation.

KCTitus
05-25-2006, 12:54 PM
Do you know if turning the key reset the system or turned it off completely?

The group of losties will be better served if Kate, Sawyer and Jack are all executed. They don't communicate enough to be effective leaders.

The little cover said 'System Shutdown' or something to that effect. Im guessing it was a power off type thing.

Rausch
05-25-2006, 02:30 PM
Also looks like I was right about the captured other being the boss man.

noa
05-25-2006, 03:01 PM
My impression as that the key blew up the entire hatch (which is why the door came flying down from the sky), so wouldn't Locke and Mr. Ecko have been killed?

buddha
05-25-2006, 03:04 PM
I kind of liked the four-toed statue. However, knowing the writers for this show, they won't come back to it. I agree with the earlier poster that wondered about what has happened with the killer cloud, the invisible beast, whatever was producing polar bears, etc. One of the most random elements on that island is the memories and continuity of the writers.

With that said, it's still one of the few shows on TV that I make a point to watch and actually look forward to.

However, if they kill off Evangeline Lilly at any point, they are toast!

Baby Lee
05-27-2006, 07:51 AM
Hummina!!!

http://members.shaw.ca/superpatriot/Stuff/Lost%20-%20Alex%20and%20Kate.jpg

keg in kc
05-27-2006, 08:06 AM
My impression as that the key blew up the entire hatch (which is why the door came flying down from the sky), so wouldn't Locke and Mr. Ecko have been killed?That was my impession as well (on both counts).

My question is how that would possibly help alleviate the geomagnetic buildup that the button was used to prevent.

And what was the original point of the swan? The button was a response to the accident, wasn't it?

Adept Havelock
05-27-2006, 12:40 PM
My impression as that the key blew up the entire hatch (which is why the door came flying down from the sky), so wouldn't Locke and Mr. Ecko have been killed?

I don't think the hatch "Blew up", but I belive there was a massive release of electromagnetic energy which propelled the weakened and loose pieces of the hatch into the air. I can't see the producers killing off both Locke and Eko. JMO.

KingPriest2
06-06-2006, 09:40 AM
Lost airs on ABC on Wednesdays at 9 p.m. EST. The series was renewed for a 3rd season. It will return in September for 6 episodes and then go in hiatus for 12 weeks and come back for 17 straight episodes.

KingPriest2
06-06-2006, 10:09 AM
Morrow: Actor: 'Lost' finale was swan song
By TERRY MORROW, morrow2@knews.com
June 3, 2006


Actor Harold Perrineau says he won't be back on "Lost" when it returns in the fall.
"As of so far, I am not back next season," says the actor whose character, Michael, sailed off with his son during the show's May 24 finale. "I am not off the show, but I am not back next season and I may not ever be back."




Perrineau, who has been central to the "Lost" storyline in recent weeks, says he is free to pursue other work. He is no longer under contract with "Lost."

Perrineau says producers told him weeks ago that he was being written off the show.

However, he also knew of a storyline idea in which Michael, once he got home, attempts to get back to the island. Apparently that storyline is not planned for next season, he says.

"I have no idea what is going on now," he says.

The actor, whose credits include the HBO series "Oz" and the "Matrix" film series, says he and his family have left Hawaii, where "Lost" is shot. He is now in New York City and mulling offers.

During the season finale, Michael and his son, Walt, were reunited before leaving the island on a boat. In recent episodes, Michael shocked viewers by murdering two of his fellow castaways (Michelle Rodriguez and Cynthia Watros) and leading others into a trap.

When Michael departed the island, he left behind three of the show's most popular characters - Jack, Kate and Sawyer - who were being held captive by The Others.

It was not clear whether Michael and Walt were actually going to leave the island and go home (as The Others had instructed them to do) or if they'd go back to their camp to get help.

"I watched the show, and even I was confused," says Perrineau.

"Sometimes what we get in the script is not what we see on the screen."

He says the parting shot of Michael and Walt leaving the island was "very clear" in the script. "There was no doubt we were going home," Perrineau says. "But when I watched it, I thought, 'Well, does he get off the island?'

"'Is he going to go out a couple of miles (into the sea) and turn around, come back and get help (for the hostages)?' Come on. Even I was confused by what I saw."

Perrineau says he was "a little confused" when producers told him that Michael was being written off.

"They explained to me how cool it was for someone to actually get off the island," he says. "It is cool, but it's not exactly what I saw in terms of the story."

KingPriest2
06-06-2006, 10:11 AM
Lost's Andrews Joins The Brave One
Source: Variety, The Hollywood Reporter June 2, 2006


Warner Bros. Pictures has set Lost star Naveen Andrews and Mary Steenburgen to join Jodie Foster and Terrence Howard in The Brave One, the Neil Jordan-directed thriller about a woman struggling to recover from a brutal attack by setting out on a dark psychological and physical journey for revenge and justice.

WB is co-financing with Village Roadshow Pictures, and Joel Silver is producing with Susan Downey. Production is slated for August, and the film will be released by WB on June 22, 2007.

Andrews will play the man who's engaged to marry the victim (Foster), while Howard plays a police officer. Steenburgen is the victim's boss at the newspaper for which she writes

BCD
06-06-2006, 10:11 AM
Lost airs on ABC on Wednesdays at 9 p.m. EST. The series was renewed for a 3rd season. It will return in September for 6 episodes and then go in hiatus for 12 weeks and come back for 17 straight episodes.So, that would mean, NO Lost from November thru January. I love the 17 consecutive episodes, but I hate the fact that I'll have to wait 3 months to get to that...

DMAC
06-06-2006, 10:36 AM
So, that would mean, NO Lost from November thru January. I love the 17 consecutive episodes, but I hate the fact that I'll have to wait 3 months to get to that...You will have football to keep you company. :)

KCTitus
06-06-2006, 10:46 AM
So Michael and Walt's ride off into the sunset was it for that story.

KingPriest2
06-06-2006, 10:54 AM
please highlight.

06/05 - I'm hearing [that Desmond will be back next season.] Source: Kristin on E!Online
05/29 - Summary of spoilers given by Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse: Next season, we will understand the real ramifications of Desmond activating the failsafe and what that did. The central issue of season three will be what did happen. It sounds like Desmond's coming back. They said they want him back, we want to know why he was in prison, we want to know what happened when he turned that key that affected the entire island. That will become very important. The island was visible but only for an instant. It was also visible for an instant on 9/22/04 when the plane crashed. The foot statue represents the history and archeology of the island. Season three will explore what happened on the island before Dharma arrived in the late 70's and who was there. The smoke monster will definitely be back in Season three. There is a good chance we saw the monster this year and didn't realize we were looking at it. By the end of next year we will realize what it was and when we saw it. Why did the Others take Jack, Kate and Sawyer? Where is their home? That will be the story told over the first six episodes. Season 3 will also be about the main characters and their relationships. They want to service the relationships next year more than the mythology. How Locke got in the wheelchair, how Jack got his tattoos will be revealed in Season three. Source: Lost Podcast
05/26 - I just received some exclusive intel on the new characters joining Lost. In addition to the two female roles, the show is also adding a new hunk. Descriptions are: Female, 30s, with leadership qualities. Female, early 20s, very attractive. Male, Latino, early 20s, handsome, mysterious quality. My guess? These are some of the "background" survivors that Carlton Cuse told me would emerge next season. Source: The Ausiello Report
05/26 - Next season will be about the Others, as led by the oblique Henry Gale (played by Michael Emerson, who will join the regular cast). Mr. Cuse listed what viewers will learn about the Others by this time next year: "Who are these people? How many of them are there? What is their history? What are they trying to accomplish?" Source: New York Times
05/25 - Producers of ABC's hit series Lost [...] told SCI FI Wire that it sets up the upcoming third season, which will focus more on romance—and on the mysterious Others. "The Others are an important part of season three, and there's a lot of mysteries and a lot of questions about the Others that the audience is going to be curious about going into season three," said executive producer Carlton Cuse in an interview. "And those are the things we're going to explore." Cuse added: "There will definitely be some new characters on the show next year... Obviously, Michael Emerson, who plays Henry Gale, he's someone who's going to be very prominent in the show next year." Fans were also introduced to a new character who promises to figure in next season's storylines: Penelope Widmore, played by Sonya Walger. [...] "I'm excited about love in season three," said executive producer Bryan Burk, adding: "Don't forget now the people have been on the island for 60-plus days. They're now obviously more familiar with each other. ... The concept of love is there, and... it weaves its way through all of our characters. It's going to be much more prevalent in season three." Source: Sci Fi Wire
05/24 - Carlton Cuse reveals: I will say that the next season is a lot about the Others. There's a lot of mysteries about the Others that we'll be getting into next year. [We will see more of Alex next season.] Source: E! Online
05/24 - According to the Hollywood Reporter, ABC's Lost is on the hunt for two new actresses to join the cast for Season 3, now that the show's distaff ranks have been quickly depleted by the twin killings of Michelle Rodriguez's Ana Lucia and Cynthia Watros' Libby. Source: TV Guide Online
05/24 - [Chances to see Ana-Lucia in flashbacks are] slim to none, according to Carlton [Cuse]. "Never say never, but we feel like we told her story," he reveals. "Her arc had a beginning, middle and an end." "You will [eventually] find out what happened to Cindy," [says Cuse.] Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide
05/22 - Harold Perrineau is not a regular for next season. He could be back as a guest star (à la Walt this season) but not as a regular cast member. Source: Kristin on E!Online
05/17 - Michael Emerson (Henry Gale) [...] is returning next season as a series regular. Source: The Ausiello Report
05/16 - [In Season 3,] there will be new locations and new characters (one rumor has Desmond joining the cast full-time, but producers won't comment). The season's big theme sounds timely, twisty, and terrifying. Hints Lindelof: "'Us versus Them.' But who's the 'us,' and who's the 'them'?" Source: Entertainment Weekly
05/14 - Damon Lindelof [reveals]: Libby's got this mysterious backstory, of which we've only given you the tip of the iceberg. We know she's spent some time in the mental institution with Hurley, and the idea of killing her before she had an opportunity to explain how she got there... we have a master plan for how we're going to tell that story, but it's all posthumous. You'll start to learn Libby's moves through flashbacks over the course of the next season. So we're not done with Cynthia, but Libby is dead. Source: The Ausiello Report
05/03 - Lindelof & Cuse: The growth of Malcolm David Kelly (Walt) will be addressed in the 3rd season. You can expect to see more of Rousseau next year, but the story of the wrecked research vessel, it will be coming at some point but we can't guarantee it'll be in Season 3. We'll be introducing new characters in Season 3, so you'll be getting fresh flashbacks. You'll probably see fewer flashbacks of our original characters as we begin to move toward certain inevitabilities. You will learn more about some of the other survivors next year. Also, where the new characters come from in Season 3 is going be part of the fun and anticipation over the summer, and hopefully by the end of the finale you'll be getting some sense of who those characters might be. We are going to produce the next 22 hours of Lost in Season 3. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide
04/25 - I've heard that a few actors will no longer be contracted as series regulars [next season] -- but that doesn't mean we won't see them again. Source: Kristin on E!Online
11/28 - Writer/Supervising producer Javier Grillo-Marxuach reveals (note that this is a summary of the spoilerish things he revealed): You have not seen the last of Dharma, but it's going to be a little while before you find out a little bit more. The Dharma Initiative was a communal research facility on the island. A lot of scientists and free-thinkers got together to do a lot of different kinds of research: psychiatry, zoology - and remember that with the zoology of the film you saw some polar bears. It's possible there were some animal aggression studies going on there, as well as human psychology experiments and a whole variety of other things. The Dharma Initiative was founded by two peacenik Grad students who were trying to get to the bottom of a lot of mysteries about human behavior. There are six bunkers on the island, and they were devoted to a lot of different kinds of research. That's going to open up a lot of different avenues for us to tease you with what the kind of research was, and how it's evolved now that the Dharma Initiative seems to have fallen into disrepair. A lot has happened on the island and the Dharma Initiative is just the tip of the iceberg... Source: The Official Lost Magazine, Issue 2, Jan/Feb 2006
09/19/2005 - From Damon Lindelof: There is going to be a flashback story that fully explains the significance of all [Jack's] tattoos and puts it into the framework of what was happening in his life when he got them. Source: Kristin on E!Online

ct
06-06-2006, 11:55 AM
Do I have the Desmond story correct.

He was in the Scottish army but got tossed in jail and was dishonerably discharged. We aren't told why he was in jail except for that he didn't like to follow orders.

Prior to entering the Army he was in love with Penelope the daughter to a huge developer. The developer (Whitmore) didn't/doesn't like Desmond. He takes all the prison notes intended for Penelope and tries to buy off Desmond.

Desmond thinks he can win Whitmore's respect by winning a global yacht race. He lucks into Libby at a Starbucks who gives him her deceased husbands yacht.

Desmond races, gets in a bad storm, bumps his head and winds up on the Island with the CIA guy who taught Sayid how to torture.

Do we know how the CIA guy got on the island?

The CIA guy pushes the numbers daily but keeps Desmond in the dark and lies to him about the Island being contaminated and vaccines and airpacks, etc. Eventually Desmond pushes tough Mr. CIA guy and kills him with a simple bump on the head. That very same day during the struggle on the rocks, the countdown reached zero and by the time Desmond made it back to the hatch there was a buildup of nanometers that were released and caused the plane to crash.

I'm missing what exactly the key does. Does it serve the same function as entering the numbers?

Why wasn't Fenry alarmed when the sky turned colors and the piercing noise started, etc?

This is the biggest question in my mind.

KingPriest2
09-28-2006, 01:31 PM
Anyone watch last night? it was a recap but it was different from the others

Pretty cool

Starts next week.

Ari Chi3fs
09-28-2006, 01:32 PM
im so ready for this. Woo Hoo... it was nice to see the recap. Good shit.

DMAC
09-28-2006, 01:35 PM
im so ready for this. Woo Hoo... it was nice to see the recap. Good shit.I am thinking it can't get much better than the first part of last season (the discovery of the bunker and the button).

But who knows.

Calcountry
09-28-2006, 02:22 PM
THis is my first post in this thread, and it is a thread that needs to be closed, along with the stupid show. I wish they would cancel the dumb thing.

Adept Havelock
09-28-2006, 03:09 PM
THis is my first post in this thread, and it is a thread that needs to be closed, along with the stupid show. I wish they would cancel the dumb thing.


Great. Another person who doesn't realize 1) The TV has a channel selector and off switch, and 2) No one is forcing them to click on a thread just because it's there.

Calcountry
09-28-2006, 05:36 PM
Great. Another person who doesn't realize 1) The TV has a channel selector and off switch, and 2) No one is forcing them to click on a thread just because it's there.Great, another self aggrandizing asshole who likes to grandstand at any opportunity.

I was just trying to make my opinion about the stupidity of the show known or is it not appropriate to voice this within said thread after it has made the rounds for over a year?

Secondly, the timing of the post coincided with a lot of thread closings.

Go blow some sunshine off of your own ass next time, because, Great, another person who knows how to put dick weeds on iggy.

Adept Havelock
09-28-2006, 06:54 PM
Great, another self aggrandizing asshole who likes to grandstand at any opportunity.

I was just trying to make my opinion about the stupidity of the show known or is it not appropriate to voice this within said thread after it has made the rounds for over a year?

Secondly, the timing of the post coincided with a lot of thread closings.

Go blow some sunshine off of your own ass next time, because, Great, another person who knows how to put dick weeds on iggy.



Huh. Struck a nerve, I guess... LMAO

I'm not the one suggesting something other people enjoy should be shut down just because I don't like it.

Sounds like you need a serious dose of getting over yourself as well.

banyon
10-04-2006, 06:51 PM
No one excited about the Season 3 premiere in 10 minutes?

Frazod
10-04-2006, 06:54 PM
No one excited about the Season 3 premiere in 10 minutes?

Oh yeah. I'm heading over to the neighbor's house to watch it on his 62" HDTV. :thumb:

I hope Michael gets eaten by some vile sea creature. Slowly. :#

banyon
10-04-2006, 06:55 PM
Oh yeah. I'm heading over to the neighbor's house to watch it on his 62" HDTV. :thumb:

I hope Michael gets eaten by some vile sea creature. Slowly. :#

I'm with ya.

Like a Dharma Initiative Brand Shark for instance? :evil:

irishjayhawk
10-04-2006, 07:07 PM
Interesting start.

By the way, did anyone see the YouTube video that put together the whole Dharma "mini-game" videos and gave some background into the show?

Just curious. IF you'd like I'll dig up the link.

noa
10-04-2006, 07:09 PM
Interesting start.

By the way, did anyone see the YouTube video that put together the whole Dharma "mini-game" videos and gave some background into the show?

Just curious. IF you'd like I'll dig up the link.

I'd be interested.

irishjayhawk
10-04-2006, 07:14 PM
I'd be interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVSuoSjcXmg

banyon
10-04-2006, 07:15 PM
Yeah, who knew that a section of Overland Park was teleported onto the Lost Island?

Fairplay
10-04-2006, 07:40 PM
I would give Kate my own 2 week treatment. :dom:

JBucc
10-04-2006, 07:42 PM
This show sucks. You should all quit watching before you get sucked in and will be let down when it's canceled after this year and all the stupid unanswered questions that the writers don't even know the answers too will never be resolved. Oops too late.

banyon
10-04-2006, 08:02 PM
Okay, so any ideas on how they know all of that s*** about Jack?



Oh and STFU JBucc.

WEIRDWOLF
10-04-2006, 08:07 PM
Booooo!!! There were more commercials then show. I really want to like this show but they are making it impossible. It needs to step it up or this is it as far as I'm concerned.

Frazod
10-04-2006, 08:10 PM
Allright. Who the hell was the blond woman who was in the cage with Jack? She looked familiar. Was she in somebody else's flashback, or am I just remembering her from another show?

Fairplay
10-04-2006, 08:22 PM
I think Carl is one of the others. Take a hit for the team.

Sawyer still plays the role of the putz getting knocked around while trying to act bad.

It looked like the others had fun with Kate.

Obviously they are trying to get information from them.

Maybe Jack talks a lot in his sleep and they found out about his past.
That girl just had a whole notebook of Darma papers in her hand so Jack would think she had a dossier on him.

They all woke up at the beginning of the show. So maybe they were in a subconscious state to try to make them blab info. Remember the shots in their arms? Advanced medicine could do some mind games to them, wierd science. Thats a theory.

banyon
10-04-2006, 08:23 PM
Allright. Who the hell was the blond woman who was in the cage with Jack? She looked familiar. Was she in somebody else's flashback, or am I just remembering her from another show?

I don't think so. At first I thought she was Desmond's ex from the end of last season, but she's not.

The actress is Elizabeth Mitchell (listed as "Juliet") and she's not listed in any other episode on imdb.

Maybe they missed it too though.

Frazod
10-04-2006, 08:28 PM
I don't think so. At first I thought she was Desmond's ex from the end of last season, but she's not.

The actress is Elizabeth Mitchell (listed as "Juliet") and she's not listed in any other episode on imdb.

Maybe they missed it too though.

Yeah, I just checked IMDB myself. She looks familiar because I've seen her in other stuff (she was the mother in the movie Frequency).

banyon
10-04-2006, 08:31 PM
So, is Juliet going to turn on them b/c Ben (henry Gale) basically was going to let her drown?

She gave him a look that felt like she was pretty pissed.

Frazod
10-04-2006, 08:33 PM
So, is Juliet going to turn on them b/c Ben (henry Gale) basically was going to let her drown?

She gave him a look that felt like she was pretty pissed.

Hell, who knows?

I'm seriously considering not watching this any more and just picking up Season 3 on DVD 11 months from now. Damn waiting and commercials are driving me nuts. :banghead:

Fairplay
10-04-2006, 08:35 PM
The next show i should time the commercials from 8:00 to 9:00 and find out how much time the network is subjecting us to these commercials.

banyon
10-04-2006, 08:36 PM
I think Carl is one of the others. Take a hit for the team.

Sawyer still plays the role of the putz getting knocked around while trying to act bad.

It looked like the others had fun with Kate.

Obviously they are trying to get information from them.

Maybe Jack talks a lot in his sleep and they found out about his past.
That girl just had a whole notebook of Darma papers in her hand so Jack would think she had a dossier on him.

They all woke up at the beginning of the show. So maybe they were in a subconscious state to try to make them blab info. Remember the shots in their arms? Advanced medicine could do some mind games to them, wierd science. Thats a theory.

Carl might be one of the Tailie kids they picked up earlier.

Like your skepticism that they don't actually have a dossier though.

ChiefsFanatic
10-04-2006, 08:40 PM
Hell, who knows?

I'm seriously considering not watching this any more and just picking up Season 3 on DVD 11 months from now. Damn waiting and commercials are driving me nuts. :banghead:

Yeah, I always let TiVo get quite a bit ahead before I start watching.

Fairplay
10-04-2006, 08:45 PM
Another theory:

The shows past suggested that Jack has problems. His wife dumped him and his father thinks he needs counseling. Mental problems?

Hurley was in an institution. So was that girl who died last season. But she acted like a pyschologist. So maybe Jack was also in the institution. Maybe a lot of the passengers on that flight are mental patients that were transported on an airplane. Crazy man. Theorys can be wild sometimes.

Maybe the others have good reason to be afraid of them.
Locking them up might not be a bad idea.

Frazod
10-04-2006, 08:48 PM
Yeah, I always let TiVo get quite a bit ahead before I start watching.

I normally do, but I was really jonesing to see this episode. I'll wait until 9:00 next week and watch it without commercials.

Guru
10-04-2006, 11:16 PM
Wow. One episode in and I am already considering dumping this show after 2 seasons of watching. This felt Like a complete waste of my time.

Fruit Ninja
10-04-2006, 11:26 PM
Hell, who knows?

I'm seriously considering not watching this any more and just picking up Season 3 on DVD 11 months from now. Damn waiting and commercials are driving me nuts. :banghead:after downloading shows on the computer, i cannot watch regular tv with commercials, i just wait til they go out on torrents a few hours later, and download. Commercial free EVERYTIME.

Guru
10-04-2006, 11:27 PM
after downloading shows on the computer, i cannot watch regular tv with commercials, i just wait til they go out on torrents a few hours later, and download. Commercial free EVERYTIME.
You Pirate you!!! :thumb:

ChiefFan31
10-04-2006, 11:38 PM
This show fuggin rocks :rockon:

I had to watch here at work. I have watched all others using Tivo. Commercials do suck. They are the main reason I dont watch much regular TV.

At least this new blonde has a nice rack. I find that to be important in my TV shows :D

I thought it was a really good episode. It is obviously wide open and can go in many diff directions right now.


I was up and yelling at the TV at Jack..He got knocked the F out by a woman in one punch!!!

ChiefFan31
10-05-2006, 03:39 AM
Okay, so any ideas on how they know all of that s*** about Jack?

I was thinking about that. They dont. She knew about his father because he told her, and they knew about Jack and his ex-wife because they got that off of Kate.

She had bloodied wrists, and a look on her face like they had already questioned her. She didnt get them from eating that lovely beachside lunch with that googly eyed freak Henry Gayle.

That did F me up at first, but after thinking about it. It was just a bluff. Its all part of the head F they are doing to the three of them.

Wait a tick...shit...how did they know about his med school and finishing a year early and all that...Hmmmmm

Guru
10-05-2006, 04:15 AM
This show just isn't fun to watch anymore. Five minutes between commercials. Strange hiatus times. Answer one question just to generate 10 more.

Next weeks episode had better be more entertaining as I probably will dump it if it is as crappy as last night ep.

KingPriest2
10-05-2006, 10:20 AM
Oh yeah. I'm heading over to the neighbor's house to watch it on his 62" HDTV. :thumb:

I hope Michael gets eaten by some vile sea creature. Slowly. :#


Ah, just to let you know I was watching it on a 137" projector screen

Awesome looking it is I tell you.

Frazod
10-05-2006, 10:21 AM
Ah, just to let you know I was watching it on a 137" projector screen

Awesome looking it is I tell you.

:moon:

KingPriest2
10-05-2006, 10:22 AM
Hell, who knows?

I'm seriously considering not watching this any more and just picking up Season 3 on DVD 11 months from now. Damn waiting and commercials are driving me nuts. :banghead:


You can watch it online.

KingPriest2
10-05-2006, 10:23 AM
This show just isn't fun to watch anymore. Five minutes between commercials. Strange hiatus times. Answer one question just to generate 10 more.

Next weeks episode had better be more entertaining as I probably will dump it if it is as crappy as last night ep.


I did not think there were too many commercials.

KingPriest2
10-05-2006, 10:24 AM
Wow. One episode in and I am already considering dumping this show after 2 seasons of watching. This felt Like a complete waste of my time.


Give it some time.

KingPriest2
10-05-2006, 10:24 AM
Another theory:

The shows past suggested that Jack has problems. His wife dumped him and his father thinks he needs counseling. Mental problems?

Hurley was in an institution. So was that girl who died last season. But she acted like a pyschologist. So maybe Jack was also in the institution. Maybe a lot of the passengers on that flight are mental patients that were transported on an airplane. Crazy man. Theorys can be wild sometimes.

Maybe the others have good reason to be afraid of them.
Locking them up might not be a bad idea.

We will see.