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chiefqueen
10-23-2004, 08:06 AM
On ESPN they just stated that St. Louis or Boston won the World Series on 4 ocasions that were Presidential election years. All four times the Democrats won the WH.

RINGLEADER
10-23-2004, 10:55 AM
Well, the last time the Red Sox won the White House there was a worldwide pandemic so maybe this isn't such a wise game to play.

Although I also heard some statistic that said that everytime the Redskins win their last home game before the election the GOP wins and everytime they lose the Dem wins...or something like that.

BigRedChief
10-23-2004, 11:02 AM
On ESPN they just stated that St. Louis or Boston won the World Series on 4 ocasions that were Presidential election years. All four times the Democrats won the WH.Talk about some bad information.jeeeezzz:cuss:


Cards won the World Series in 1964, 1968 . And a Republican won in those years. Even when they won in 1982 the republicans took control of congress.

I'm not wasting my time going back further to check...Denise is on her own...

Chief Henry
10-23-2004, 11:28 AM
Cardinals in SIX. And the republicans will gain SIX
in the Senate...

Saggysack
10-23-2004, 11:33 AM
Talk about some bad information.jeeeezzz:cuss:


Cards won the World Series in 1964, 1968 . And a Republican won in those years. Even when they won in 1982 the republicans took control of congress.

I'm not wasting my time going back further to check...Denise is on her own...

A republican won in 64? :spock:

I thought the Cards won in 67, not 68? Didn't they lose in 68?

Cochise
10-23-2004, 12:36 PM
Cardinals won in 1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982.

Red Sox last won in 1918, previously won in 1916, 1915, 1912.

Of these years, there were elections in 1912 (Wilson - D), 1916 (Wilson - D), 1944 (Roosevelt - D), 1964 (Johnson - D).

chiefqueen
10-23-2004, 01:06 PM
Didn't the Detriot Tigers win it all in '68? (The year Denny McClain won 30.)

Michael Michigan
10-23-2004, 01:12 PM
Well, the last time the Red Sox won the White House there was a worldwide pandemic so maybe this isn't such a wise game to play.

Although I also heard some statistic that said that everytime the Redskins win their last home game before the election the GOP wins and everytime they lose the Dem wins...or something like that.

http://www.snopes.com/sports/football/election.asp

FOOTBALL + ELECTION

Did you know....??

The Washington Redskins have proved to be a time-tested election predictor. In the previous 15 elections, if the Washington Redskins have lost their last home game prior to the election, the incumbent party has lost the White House. When they have won, the incumbent has stayed in power.

This election year, that deciding game takes place on Sunday, October 31 ... vs. Green Bay.

* On 30 October 2000 the Washington Redskins lost a Monday night game at home to the Tennessee Titans, 27-21, presaging a loss for the incumbent Democratic party. Since President Bill Clinton had already been elected to the constitutionally-mandated maximum of two terms in office, the 7 November 2000 presidential election pitted Democratic Vice-President Al Gore against Republican Governor George W. Bush of Texas. In the closest (and most controversial) presidential election since 1876, Governor Bush gained the White House by the slim margin of five electoral votes, thereby fulfilling the Redskin prophecy.


* On 27 October 1996 the Washington Redskins defeated the Indianapolis Colts at home, 31-16, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Sure enough, in the 5 November 1996 general election, Democratic President Bill Clinton won re-election over his Republican challenger, Senator Bob Dole of Kansas.


* On 1 November 1992 the Washington Redskins lost to the New York Giants at home, 24-7, predicting a similar loss for the incumbent Republicans. As expected, in the 3 November 1992, Republican President George H. W. Bush lost his re-election bid to Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas.


* On 6 November 1988 the Washington Redskins edged the New Orleans Saints at home, 27-24, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans. As President Ronald Reagan had already been elected twice, the 8 November 1988 election once again matched a sitting Vice-President, Republican George H. W. Bush, against a challenger, Democratic Governor Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts. True to form, Vice-President Bush emerged victorious.


* On 5 November 1984 the Washington Redskins bested the Atlanta Falcons in a Monday night home game, 27-14, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans. The next day, President Ronald Reagan handily defeated his Democratic challenger, former Vice-President and Senator Walter F. Mondale of Minnesota, winning re-election with an electoral vote landslide.


* On 2 November 1980 the Washington Redskins were trounced at home by the Minnesota Vikings, 39-14, predicting a loss for the incumbent Democrats. As expected, on 4 November 1980 President Jimmy Carter failed in his re-election bid, losing to his Republican opponent, former California governor Ronald Reagan.


* On 31 October 1976 the Washington Redskins were spooked by the Dallas Cowboys in a Halloween Day home game, losing 20-7 and predicting a loss for the incumbent Republicans. Two days later, on 2 November 1976, Democratic Governor Jimmy Carter of Georgia unseated President Gerald Ford (who had been appointed Vice-President after the resignation of Spiro Agnew in 1973 and became chief executive in 1974 after President Richard Nixon also resigned).


* On 22 October 1972 the Washington Redskins edged the Dallas Cowboys, 24-20, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans. The 7 November 1972 election resulted in the electoral vote landslide re-election of President Richard Nixon over the Democratic nominee, Senator George McGovern of South Dakota.


* On 27 October 1968 the Washington Redskins lost a close game to the New York Giants, 13-10, predicting a loss for the incumbent Democrats. Since President Lyndon B. Johnson had announced several months earlier that he would not seek another term as president, the 1968 election was a contest between sitting Vice-President Hubert Humphrey and a former Vice-President, Republican Richard Nixon. In a mirror of the Redskins game, the Democrats lost in a close contest (the two candidates were separated by a slim 0.6% margin in the popular vote).


* On 25 October 1964 the Washington Redskins beat the Chicago Bears, 27-20, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. As predicted, on 3 November 1964 President Lyndon Johnson (who had ascended to the White House after the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963) won a landslide victory over Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona.


* On 30 October 1960 the Washington Redskins were pasted at home by the Cleveland Browns, 31-10, predicting a loss for the incumbent Republicans. President Dwight D. Eisenhower had already served two terms, so Vice-President Richard Nixon took up the Republican mantle against Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts in the 8 November 1960 presidential election. Like the Redskins, the Republicans lost; unlike the Redskins, the Republicans made the contest a very close one. (Kennedy bested Nixon by a mere 0.2% margin in the popular vote.)


* On 21 October 1956 the Washington Redskins soundly defeated the Cleveland Browns at home, 20-9, predicting a win for the incumbent Republicans on 6 November 1956. And, for the second straight election, the Republicans and their standard-bearer, Dwight D. Eisenhower, prevailed over the Democratic nominee, Adlai Stevenson.


* On 2 November 1952 the Washington Redskins lost a squeaker to the Pittsburgh Steelers at home, 24-23, predicting a similar loss for the incumbent Democrats. President Harry S. Truman declined to run for re-election (he had already served eight years), leaving the field open for former Illinois governor Adlai Stevenson to stand against the Republican candidate, General Dwight D. Eisenhower. The Democrats' loss on 4 November 1952 was not nearly as close as the Redskins' had been.


* On 31 October 1948, the Washington Redskins walloped the Boston Yanks at home, 59-21, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Two days later, In one of the most stunning political upsets in U.S. history, President Harry S. Truman (who had assumed office in 1945 when President Franklin D. Roosevelt died shortly after beginning his fourth term) defeated his Republican challenger, Governor Thomas E. Dewey of New York.


* On 5 November 1944, the Washington Redskins trimmed the Cleveland Rams at home, 14-10, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. And win the Democrats did, as President Franklin D. Roosevelt secured an unprecedented fourth term by defeating the Republican nominee, Thomas Dewey, on 7 November 1944.


* On 3 November 1940, the Washington Redskins thrashed the Pittsburgh Pirates (forebears of today's Steelers team) at home, 37-10, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Likewise, Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt became the first (and only) three-term president as he thrashed Republican challenger Wendell Willkie of New York (a former Democrat who had never held high elected office) on 5 November 1940.


* Going back to 1936 puts us beyond the beginnings of the Washington Redskins, as that year the Redskins franchise was still playing in Boston. Nonetheless, their knack for foretelling the outcome of presidential elections was already in place. On 1 November 1936 the Boston Redskins downed the Chicago Cardinals at Fenway Park, 13-10, predicting a win for the incumbent Democrats. Two days later, President Franklin D. Roosevelt won his re-election over Republican Governor Alf Landon of Kansas.

That is as far back as the streak goes. In 1932 the Washington Redskins were neither the Redskins nor a Washington team: they were the Boston Braves, and they played in Braves Field, which they shared with the National League baseball team of the same name. On 6 November 1932 they won at home against the Staten Island Stapletons, 19-6, a result that should have foretold a presidential victory for the incumbent Republican party. Neither the Redskins' team name nor their predictive powers were yet evident, however, as President Herbert Hoover lost to his Democratic challenger, Governor Franklin Delano Roosevelt of New York on 8 November 1932

What do we make of all this? Nothing. We see it as coincidence, as evidence that anyone who tries long and hard enough can find apparent patterns in any collection of data. But for those who believe in this sort of thing, the Redskins' last home game before the 2 November 2004 election is a Halloween Day contest against the Green Bay Packers Republican supporters will be rooting for the Redskins, and Democratic supporters will become Cheeseheads for a day.

Lomax
10-23-2004, 03:50 PM
In every year since 1860, when a Republican has won the election for president, he has gone on to take office. Really. You can look it up.

Calcountry
10-23-2004, 04:20 PM
On ESPN they just stated that St. Louis or Boston won the World Series on 4 ocasions that were Presidential election years. All four times the Democrats won the WH.
Its crap.

kc hopeful
10-26-2004, 06:44 AM
Didn't the Detriot Tigers win it all in '68? (The year Denny McClain won 30.)


But it was Lolich that was murder. :shake: