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alnorth
11-02-2004, 07:13 PM
1:15AM

(Rediculous, pathetic, worthless exit polls removed.)

Florida 99% reporting, Bush up by 5%

Bush has won Florida outright with no disputes or lawyers.

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Ohio 97% reporting, Bush up by 2%

Bush has also won Ohio, with a small possibility of a legal fight in the future.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 07:16 PM
Ohio race for President
22 of 11477 precincts - 0 percent
John F. Kerry Dem 82,188 - 56 percent
George W. Bush (i) Rep 63,438 - 43 percent
Michael Badnarik NP 388 - 0 percent
Michael Peroutka NP 226 - 0 percent

Patriot 21
11-02-2004, 07:17 PM
The actual results so far aren't mirroring the exits. :thumb:

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 07:18 PM
Florida race for President
1549 of 7241 precincts - 21 percent
George W. Bush (i) Rep 933,897 - 55 percent
John F. Kerry Dem 760,633 - 45 percent

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 07:19 PM
Those are AP numbers BTW

Patriot 21
11-02-2004, 07:19 PM
MM,

I'm watching this site...

http://election.sos.state.oh.us/results/SingleRaceSummary.aspx?race=PP

it isn't nearly as far along as your numbers.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 07:21 PM
CNN says that Florida in "trending" towards Bush.

With a disclaimer...better than 2000.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 07:21 PM
Bush is still up +11 with 23% counted in Florida, but again, the huge left-winger counties havent reported, that lead is going to be sliced at any minute.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 07:22 PM
MM,

I'm watching this site...

http://election.sos.state.oh.us/results/SingleRaceSummary.aspx?race=PP

it isn't nearly as far along as your numbers.

Patriot 21

Try this:

http://news.yahoo.com/electionresults

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 07:24 PM
Ohio race for President
30 of 11477 precincts - 0 percent
John F. Kerry Dem 83,567 - 56 percent
George W. Bush (i) Rep 65,704 - 44 percent

alnorth
11-02-2004, 07:26 PM
cnn has a nice county map you can use to see if the heavy right or left-wing counties report in. So far Florida is filled with light red, with the traditionally dark blue and dark red counties not reporting yet.

Patriot 21
11-02-2004, 07:28 PM
MM, Got it! Thanks!

alnorth
11-02-2004, 07:29 PM
In other news, this is looking like an absolutely TERRIFIC night for the GOP in congress. Too bad the close presidential race puts a damper on things. If this were a midterm, I'd be happy right now.

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 07:40 PM
Bush lead increasing in Florida - Gaiining in Ohio

chiefqueen
11-02-2004, 07:40 PM
Re Ohio the county in which Clevelend lies is being counted.

HolmeZz
11-02-2004, 07:41 PM
Bush lead increasing in Florida - Gaiining in Ohio

KEEP SPINNING, BABY.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 07:42 PM
The Democrat counties are still AWOL, but the heavy panhandle GOP counties are now beginning to come in, Bush still has 10%. If the GOP counties all report before the big blue counties, Bush will probably want closer to 15% to feel safe, because he sure as hell wont win by 10%

David.
11-02-2004, 07:42 PM
KEEP SPINNING, BABY.

STFU, it's true.....

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 07:42 PM
Bush lead increasing in Florida - Gaiining in Ohio

Kerry's early Ohio lead seems to all be coming from Cleveland.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 07:44 PM
In other news, Bush is doing EXTREMELY well among hispanics in Florida, better than in 2000.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 07:46 PM
Kerry's early Ohio lead seems to all be coming from Cleveland.


As expected.

I have a theory of how to call races early...whichever candidate's party surrogates have glassy eyes is the one who is losing. Earlier today they were all GOP...Lockhart was on and now his are glassy...Of course Bush's pollster has glassy eyes too.

I don't think anyone knows what's going to happen although to listen to Mehlman you'd think Bush has FL locked up - he's doing better among Hispanics, doing better in Dem areas, doing better in the I-4 corridor.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 07:46 PM
Fox is now beginning to suggest that the Florida exit polls could be radically incorrect, Bush is doing far better in Florida than the exit polls say he should.

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 07:47 PM
Up 13% in Florida - Still gaining fast in Ohio

alnorth
11-02-2004, 07:50 PM
There are very few GOP counties left missing in Florida. 13% is probably near the peak, its now a matter of hoping its enough to withstand the beating hell take when south Florida comes in.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 07:51 PM
Man, Susan Estrich has hardcore glassy eyes going right now...she seems pissy too...

siberian khatru
11-02-2004, 07:52 PM
Man, Susan Estrich has hardcore glassy eyes going right now...she seems pissy too...

I do a great Susan Estrich impression. I've been honing it 16 years. :)

alnorth
11-02-2004, 07:53 PM
The Republicans have now picked up one house seat thus far, with Kentucky #04 going to the GOP.

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 07:54 PM
I do a great Susan Estrich impression. I've been honing it 16 years. :)

I love it when she gets pissed, I think some of the heads just piss her off on purpose to have a laugh.

2bikemike
11-02-2004, 07:54 PM
There are very few GOP counties left missing in Florida. 13% is probably near the peak, its now a matter of hoping its enough to withstand the beating hell take when south Florida comes in.

Sounds a lot like the Chiefs/Colts game. Can the Red hang on after an early lead or will the Blue catch up.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 07:55 PM
Man, Susan Estrich has hardcore glassy eyes going right now...she seems pissy too...

:)

I noticed that. Maybe she'll storm off the set.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 07:56 PM
Ohio

Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
166,845 51% 0

Democratic Kerry
161,437 49%

Calcountry
11-02-2004, 07:57 PM
Bush is still up +11 with 23% counted in Florida, but again, the huge left-winger counties havent reported, that lead is going to be sliced at any minute.
You hope.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 07:57 PM
I do a great Susan Estrich impression. I've been honing it 16 years. :)


:shudder:

chiefqueen
11-02-2004, 07:58 PM
I just checked CNN Bush is now up 5,400 Cleveland & Columbus counties are being counted.

Bush is up by more the 350,000 in FLA.

siberian khatru
11-02-2004, 07:58 PM
:shudder:

Well, at least I don't do it in drag. :)

Calcountry
11-02-2004, 07:59 PM
Fox is now beginning to suggest that the Florida exit polls could be radically incorrect, Bush is doing far better in Florida than the exit polls say he should.
Could it be us conservatives revenge against the liberal media bias, to just lie to the exit pollers/???

Just a thought.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 07:59 PM
Yeah, this is absolutely the Chiefs-Colts game in FL...Hopefully Bush has Priest Holmes on his team...

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 07:59 PM
Well, at least I don't do it in drag. :)
that would be headsnap

Calcountry
11-02-2004, 08:00 PM
Man, Susan Estrich has hardcore glassy eyes going right now...she seems pissy too...
Hell hath no fury like a midget liberal bitch scorned.

siberian khatru
11-02-2004, 08:00 PM
that would be headsnap

ROFL

Yeah, I leave that to the pros.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 08:00 PM
You hope.

Like Hell I do, I'm a Republican, I'm just reporting the facts, because 4 years ago Bush had this huge lead, everyone called it for Bush, and then South Florida finally finished counting and screwed it all up.

I want that 13% driven up a bit higher before I can feel safe.

FAX
11-02-2004, 08:01 PM
Fox News seems highly pessimistic re: Bush. Any ideas out there as to why?

Best,

FAX

Patriot 21
11-02-2004, 08:02 PM
Hell hath no fury like a midget liberal bitch scorned.

I'd sure hate to haff to keep her in smokes....it'd haff to cost a fortune.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 08:03 PM
The GOP has picked up two more seats so far thanks to the Texas redistricting, winning both Texas #10 and Texas #11. That puts them to +3 in the house

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 08:03 PM
Hell hath no fury like a midget liberal bitch scorned.
That would explain Donna Shelalah

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 08:04 PM
Fox News seems highly pessimistic re: Bush. Any ideas out there as to why?

Best,

FAX


Because all the exit polling showed Kerry ahead (albeit slightly). Seems some of that exit polling has already been proven wrong and Bush is doing better.

But I still think it's going to be very, very tight and it can go either way. They're calling almost no states at this point.

Although on NBC they're saying that the GOP is acting like the news is very good.

FAX
11-02-2004, 08:05 PM
Because all the exit polling showed Kerry ahead (albeit slightly). Seems some of that exit polling has already been proven wrong and Bush is doing better.

But I still think it's going to be very, very tight and it can go either way. They're calling almost no states at this point.

Although on NBC they're saying that the GOP is acting like the news is very good.

Many thanks, Mr. RINGLEADER. What does your "gut" tell you re; POTUS?

Best,

FAX

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 08:06 PM
Bush still up big in Florida - Takes lead in Ohio - Here comes New Meixico and Wisconsin baby.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 08:07 PM
We are now learning why Bush is doing so much better than expected in Florida. Some of those middle of the state GOP counties have > 90% turnout!!!!!! :D

Holy hell, can you say motivation?

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 08:09 PM
My focus group of polling "experts" assured me that Bush was vulnerable in Florida.

I'm beginning to think they blew that one.

siberian khatru
11-02-2004, 08:10 PM
My focus group of polling "experts" assured me that Bush was vulnerable in Florida.

I'm beginning to think they blew that one.

Hell, Bush was "vulnerable" the entire election. He still is. But "vulnerable" does not necessarily = "loss."

alnorth
11-02-2004, 08:17 PM
Bush's lead has been cut in half with half those big blue counties we had been waiting for finally reporting in. Well have to hope that 7% hes got left can withstand the rest of the blue assault.

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 08:17 PM
Dem counties coming in Kerry gaining in Florida - Bush lead increasing in Ohio.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 08:21 PM
Hell, Bush was "vulnerable" the entire election. He still is. But "vulnerable" does not necessarily = "loss."

I forgot you were all hooched up.

;)

I should have been more clear--they said he was going to lose Florida.

siberian khatru
11-02-2004, 08:23 PM
I forgot you were all hooched up.

;)

I should have been more clear--they said he was going to lose Florida.

You make it sound so dirty. I've got the Olivia Newton-John mellow on. :)

BigOlChiefsfan
11-02-2004, 08:27 PM
NuMex has Bush leading by 1% with Bernalillo Co. reporting, and that'll be hard for any rural areas to overcome due to demographics. Good news from Ristra-land.

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 08:37 PM
I know it's early but I was looking at some of these exit polls and most are big time BS.

David.
11-02-2004, 08:42 PM
Missouri is looking close http://forums.breakthetrend.com/images/smilies/uhh.gif

alnorth
11-02-2004, 08:43 PM
The colorado electoral college reform has crashed and burned to a resounding NO! So, well still have a winner-take-all in Colorado.

BigOlChiefsfan
11-02-2004, 08:43 PM
Blogger updates, take 'em for what they're worth.

Big news from Florida. Broward County is mostly in, and Bush still leads statewide handily. Palm Beach is still zero, but it'll take a huge number to overcome Bush's lead. None of the Bush-loving Panhandle counties are in yet (correction: Walton County is mostly in, but it has a very small permanent-resident population; Bay, Okaloosa, and Escambia are the real players). I think Bush going to win the state by three to five percentage points, outside the "margin of litigation."

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 08:45 PM
Missouri is looking close http://forums.breakthetrend.com/images/smilies/uhh.gif
I know.

Half an hour ago, Kerre' led by 7,000, now they are reporting GWB by 8,000

alnorth
11-02-2004, 08:46 PM
Demint has now won in South Carolina, putting the GOP at +1 in the Senate.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 08:47 PM
You make it sound so dirty. I've got the Olivia Newton-John mellow on. :)

I'm thinking of that skin-tight black outfit in Grease...

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 08:47 PM
On Olivia--not you.

:)

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 08:48 PM
Blogger updates, take 'em for what they're worth.

Big news from Florida. Broward County is mostly in, and Bush still leads statewide handily. Palm Beach is still zero, but it'll take a huge number to overcome Bush's lead. None of the Bush-loving Panhandle counties are in yet (correction: Walton County is mostly in, but it has a very small permanent-resident population; Bay, Okaloosa, and Escambia are the real players). I think Bush going to win the state by three to five percentage points, outside the "margin of litigation."

BOCF:

Which blog?

The Corner?

BigOlChiefsfan
11-02-2004, 08:49 PM
MM -

http://www.vodkapundit.com/

Will Collier is in Georgia now, but a former Conch, I think he's worth reading. Stephen Green is out in Colorado.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 09:00 PM
Looking at the FL vote that has reported by county I see Kerry picking up about 260K votes if Broward, Miami-Dade and Palm Beach all go 2-1 against Bush (which they're not doing right now - Broward is 55-45, Miami-Dade is 65-35 and Palm Beach is 60-40 right now, thereabouts).

Of course Bush still has about 100K votes to get out of red counties and currently has a 250K vote lead so maybe he pulls it out.

Dunno at this point :shrug:

KC Jones
11-02-2004, 09:01 PM
Just heard on CNN that 250k of absentee ballots in Florida wont be counted until Thursday. The vast majority supposedly from Democratic counties.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 09:05 PM
Just heard on CNN that 250k of absentee ballots in Florida wont be counted until Thursday. The vast majority supposedly from Democratic counties.

The vast majority of which has historically gone GOP 2-1 (even though they are heavily Dem counties). The Republicans think they have another 150K of absentee ballots in the bag in FL. Again, can't vouch for it, but that's what it's done historically according to what I'm hearing.

On edit: It's possible that the past historical performance of the absentee ballots could be different since there was early voting...the reason they trended primarily GOP in the past was because you didn't have early voting so that could change. But, again, if it follows historical norms it is another 100-150K votes for Bush in FL.

jcl-kcfan2
11-02-2004, 09:09 PM
Looks like this one may be called early.

Bush seems to be picking up momentum here.

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 09:10 PM
Looks like this one may be called early.

Bush seems to be picking up momentum here.
NBC just called Arkansas and Utah for him

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 09:13 PM
I predict we pop the cork around 11:00 central.

David.
11-02-2004, 09:15 PM
Bush just won Missouri. I can sleep well now

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 09:15 PM
Bush just passed his totals from the last election I believe in Florida...Kerry is still a couple hundred thousand votes behind...

Boozer
11-02-2004, 09:16 PM
NBC just called Arkansas and Utah for him

Boy, Utah is a real surprise.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 09:16 PM
Bush just won Missouri. I can sleep well now


:clap: :clap: :clap:

BigOlChiefsfan
11-02-2004, 09:23 PM
CBS is focusing on NuMex now. I think Dan'll be broken hearted before it's all over. Santa Fe will come thru for him, but Albuqueque is gonna punk him for cigarettes all around Cell Block D.

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 09:24 PM
Bush just won Missouri. I can sleep well now

Also leading in Colorado, New Mexico, and Wisconsin. I'm smellin a landslide

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 09:29 PM
Also leading in Colorado, New Mexico, and Wisconsin. I'm smellin a landslide


I have been calling a big win for a long time now. But I tend to be rather optimistic...... But it is starting to look as I suspected it would.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 09:32 PM
Wishful thinking...

http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/corner.asp

THE WORD [KJL]
"Hearing it's possible that NJ will go back into play. Bush total nationally could be 52. " How sweet would that be?

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 09:34 PM
I have been calling a big win for a long time now. But I tend to be rather optimistic...... But it is starting to look as I suspected it would.

I for one, will be looking at the pollsters in a whole different light from now on. We should be hearing from Bush by 11:00 central.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 09:35 PM
chalk up another GOP house pickup, Texas #01 goes to the right wing.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 09:37 PM
for those wondering about NJ, it got called early back when the networks still thought the exit polls might be valid. Bush is still down, but hes cut Kerry down to 5% with 82% counted.

Logical
11-02-2004, 09:38 PM
I for one, will be looking at the pollsters in a whole different light from now on. We should be hearing from Bush by 11:00 central.Not to rain on your parade but it is earlly and there is no way it will be over that early.

siberian khatru
11-02-2004, 09:38 PM
chalk up another GOP house pickup, Texas #01 goes to the right wing.

Martin Frost's seat? Sweet.

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 09:40 PM
I for one, will be looking at the pollsters in a whole different light from now on. We should be hearing from Bush by 11:00 central.


I have become more and more skeptical of pollsters over the past few years. This year I have practically ignored them. I have not believed, save for maybe right after the Dem's convention, that this race has been as close as the polls and media are telling us.

I just don't buy it.

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 09:43 PM
Not to rain on your parade but it is earlly and there is no way it will be over that early.

Ya, I know but this has the potential to be a landslide.

Logical
11-02-2004, 09:51 PM
I have become more and more skeptical of pollsters over the past few years. This year I have practically ignored them. I have not believed, save for maybe right after the Dem's convention, that this race has been as close as the polls and media are telling us.

I just don't buy it.You will buy it in the morning. Trust me.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 09:53 PM
I wouldn't get cocky if I was a Bush fan...If he loses OH he's still likely to lose the election.

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 09:55 PM
Not to rain on your parade but it is earlly and there is no way it will be over that early.


Maybe he meant 11:00 Pacific Time.

Patriot 21
11-02-2004, 09:56 PM
You will buy it in the morning. Trust me.


Sorry Jim but sometime tonight I'm gonna walk outside, face the west, raise my right hand and flip the bird and shout out a great big fuq you to Kalifornia and their 54 (or whatever) EV's.

:toast:

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 09:56 PM
You will buy it in the morning. Trust me.


Maybe. But I am not buying now.

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 09:57 PM
Sorry Jim but sometime tonight I'm gonna walk outside, face the west, raise my right hand and flip the bird and shout out a great big fuq you to Kalifornia and their 54 (or whatever) EV's.

:toast:
55, flip them off one more time

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 09:58 PM
I wouldn't get cocky if I was a Bush fan...If he loses OH he's still likely to lose the election.

Yep.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 09:59 PM
I wouldn't get cocky if I was a Bush fan...If he loses OH he's still likely to lose the election.

Is it possible Bush could lose without Ohio? yeah, but likely? Actually, I dont think so, I believe he wins without Ohio. Bush is doing surprisingly well in the upper midwest, and in New Mexico. He only needs to pick up 20 EV's worth to replace Ohio, less than that actually since hes operating on a natural 8 point advantage from last year's map..

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 10:03 PM
Cal to Kerre' - no surprise

Idaho and Wyoming to GWB - No surprise

alnorth
11-02-2004, 10:03 PM
News Flash!

Vitter might win Louisiana TONIGHT!!!! NO RUNOFF!!!

Its not a done deal yet, but if he gets over 50% to kill the December runoff, that's huge.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 10:04 PM
Actually, Bush needs to win OH and CO and this is over.

I don't think Bush is going to win IA (he's down 4% and they haven't even started counting votes from Des Moines), he's not winning MN, WI or PA so there really isn't any way to make up OH. If he doesn't win CO he'll need to win two of NM, NH, or HI.

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 10:06 PM
Actually, Bush needs to win OH and CO and this is over.

I don't think Bush is going to win IA (he's down 4% and they haven't even started counting votes from Des Moines), he's not winning MN, WI or PA so there really isn't any way to make up OH. If he doesn't win CO he'll need to win two of NM, NH, or HI.
I show him up currently by 62,000 votes in WI

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 10:07 PM
Actually, Bush needs to win OH and CO and this is over.

I don't think Bush is going to win IA (he's down 4% and they haven't even started counting votes from Des Moines), he's not winning MN, WI or PA so there really isn't any way to make up OH. If he doesn't win CO he'll need to win two of NM, NH, or HI.

I think he's got a shot in WI and NM.

No way for PA.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 10:09 PM
I think he's got a shot in WI and NM.

No way for PA.

I also think CO is in. It's all Ohio.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 10:12 PM
FL is over. The most that Kerry can hope to squeeze out of the remaining counties is about 75K-100K. Bush is currently up almost 300K plus he has another 100K of absentee votes in the bag.

All eyes move to OH.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 10:12 PM
Texas #32 goes to the GOP, ending Martin Frost's political career.

Boozer
11-02-2004, 10:16 PM
I know history doesn't count for much anymore, but I'll reiterate...no Republican has ever won without Ohio, and it's looking like that state will be key again.

Hel'n
11-02-2004, 10:20 PM
Ohio too close to call. I've heard reports that people are still in line to vote. Florida... well, I figured Kerry would carry... but perhaps it is not meant to be...

Right now 210-199 Bush edge in EV...

Wow, it could come down to Ohio...

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 10:22 PM
FL is over. The most that Kerry can hope to squeeze out of the remaining counties is about 75K-100K. Bush is currently up almost 300K plus he has another 100K of absentee votes in the bag.

All eyes move to OH.

Ohio it is...

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 10:23 PM
Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
1,707,095 52% 0

Democratic Kerry
1,564,245 48% 0

59% precincts reporting - Updated 11:21 p.m. ET

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 10:27 PM
Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
1,707,095 52% 0

Democratic Kerry
1,564,245 48% 0

59% precincts reporting - Updated 11:21 p.m. ET
140,000 as a lead is hard to interpret when we don't know what precincts have yet to report in.

Fat Elvis
11-02-2004, 10:30 PM
140,000 as a lead is hard to interpret when we don't know what precincts have yet to report in.


Looks like the rural precincts are in....

http://network.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2004/general/by_county/pres/OH.html?SITE=YAHOOELN&SECTION=POLITICS

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 10:31 PM
Bush is still up 130K in OH...Half of Cuyohogogo County has reported. Kerry has another 125-150K in votes he's going to take out of that area (perhaps even a bit more depending on the precincts). In other areas Kerry will probably amass another 40K-75K. Bush, on the other hand, is going to harvest another 100-150K of votes.

So worst case scenario Kerry gets about another 225K in votes while Bush at worse gets another 100K. That would eat 125K out of the 130K lead the president now has.

Inspector
11-02-2004, 10:32 PM
Seems like the libs are kind of quiet.

Wonder whats up with that. Seems like they are usually pretty vocal on this forum.

Hope they are ok..........

alnorth
11-02-2004, 10:33 PM
God, now we know why Ohio is taking so damn long.

Some county prosecutor who ran unopposed got into legal trouble and withdrew from his race at the last moment, and now both parties were pressing write-in candidacies, and thats delaying things a bit since you cant use machines to count write-in results.

cdcox
11-02-2004, 10:33 PM
Fox reporting that predominantly Republican Hamilton county is going to be reporting late because of a write in race.

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 10:34 PM
Fox news is reporting that the majority of precincts yet to report are heavely GOP.

jcl-kcfan2
11-02-2004, 10:35 PM
WTH, they aren't calling FLA, but they are already calling the west coast as Dem??!?!?

I know it probably will be dem, but to call it with 0% votes is kinda wierd.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 10:37 PM
The Democrats just picked up Georgia #12, reducing the GOP gain to +4 in the house.

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 10:39 PM
Bush is still up 130K in OH...Half of Cuyohogogo County has reported. Kerry has another 125-150K in votes he's going to take out of that area (perhaps even a bit more depending on the precincts). In other areas Kerry will probably amass another 40K-75K. Bush, on the other hand, is going to harvest another 100-150K of votes.

So worst case scenario Kerry gets about another 225K in votes while Bush at worse gets another 100K. That would eat 125K out of the 130K lead the president now has.

At least we know now where all the jet loads of laywers are headed.

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 10:39 PM
ABC just called Florida for Bush.

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 10:39 PM
Mike McCurry(Senior Kerry Advisor) reporting a Ohio will be Kerry. Also said he'll enjoy President Elect Kerry talking about how he's going to change America.


LOL

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 10:41 PM
Ohio is going to go Bush.

No network is calling it, I am.

Miles
11-02-2004, 10:41 PM
CNN just said with 97% reported 52% bush, 48% kerry. Looks like Bush has FL. CNN still not calling it officially yet.

Frazod
11-02-2004, 10:41 PM
Who is the bitch on Fox talking about Ohio right now? Her voice makes me want to beat the shit out of somebody. :#

Sassy
11-02-2004, 10:42 PM
Hey Garcia...what's happening with OM?

KingPriest2
11-02-2004, 10:42 PM
Mike McCurry(Senior Kerry Advisor) reporting a Ohio will be Kerry. Also said he'll enjoy President Elect Kerry talking about how he's going to change America.


LOL


I been listening and watching where they are saying Bush is going to win Ohio.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 10:42 PM
Democrats pick up Illinois #08

Miles
11-02-2004, 10:43 PM
Who is the bitch on Fox talking about Ohio right now? Her voice makes me want to beat the shit out of somebody. :#


Her mannerisms are annoying as hell too.

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 10:43 PM
Hey Garcia...what's happening with OM?

The server move...poorly timed...but we're at the mercy of our space provider.

cdcox
11-02-2004, 10:44 PM
Who is the bitch on Fox talking about Ohio right now? Her voice makes me want to beat the shit out of somebody. :#

Susan Estrich, Dukakis' campaighn manager. Bitch on wheels. Basically your worst nightmare.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 10:44 PM
Fox news is reporting that the majority of precincts yet to report are heavely GOP.


That is NOT true and it will be EXTREMELY close. Kerry is doing much better in Cuyahogogo and Stark counties and can close the gap VERY quickly depending on the precincts that have reported.

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 10:44 PM
I been listening and watching where they are saying Bush is going to win Ohio.


I think he's going to win Ohio...and this election will be all but over.

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 10:44 PM
Who is the bitch on Fox talking about Ohio right now? Her voice makes me want to beat the shit out of somebody. :#


I would wager it is Susan Estrich (sp?). They had her on earlier.

She scares me.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 10:44 PM
Who is the bitch on Fox talking about Ohio right now? Her voice makes me want to beat the shit out of somebody. :#


Susan Estrich. Isn't she lovely?

Frazod
11-02-2004, 10:45 PM
Her mannerisms are annoying as hell too.

As is the concept of her very existance.

I think they said her name was Susan Estrich. If they show her again, I'm switching over to NBC. :grr:

bkkcoh
11-02-2004, 10:45 PM
Susan Estrich, Dukakis' campaighn manager. Bitch on wheels. Basically your worst nightmare.


She does better than a cold shower..... Causes some serious shrinkage....

Frazod
11-02-2004, 10:45 PM
I would wager it is Susan Estrich (sp?). They had her on earlier.

She scares me.

ALL women scare you. :D

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 10:45 PM
Who is the bitch on Fox talking about Ohio right now? Her voice makes me want to beat the shit out of somebody. :#

Earlier she was alternating between her Boston accent and some kind of weird Texan twang I had never heard before. I'm on Tivo so I don't get to hear her for another five minutes...

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 10:46 PM
CNN 197-188 BUSH
CBS 246-199 BUSH
FOX 210-144 BUSH Website
ABC 237-188 BUSH
NBC 207-199 BUSH

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 10:46 PM
ALL women scare you. :D
Rep

Frazod
11-02-2004, 10:47 PM
Earlier she was alternating between her Boston accent and some kind of weird Texan twang I had never heard before. I'm on Tivo so I don't get to hear her for another five minutes...

I'd take advantage of that to fast forward over her. I'd prefer to fast forward over her in a 18 wheeler.

jjjayb
11-02-2004, 10:47 PM
Susan Estrich. Isn't she lovely?

Good lord, can you imagine if her and James Carville had a child together. Scary thought.

Frazod
11-02-2004, 10:48 PM
Good lord, can you imagine if her and James Carville had a child together. Scary thought.

Nancy Pelosi? :hmmm:

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 10:48 PM
ALL women scare you. :D


True. But she REALLY scares me. Typically when I see her on tv I have to leave the room. Her eyes, and as someone mentioned her mannerisms, combined with that voice just make me shudder.

bkkcoh
11-02-2004, 10:49 PM
ABC on their web site has given Florida to Bush.

Boozer
11-02-2004, 10:49 PM
Nancy Pelosi? :hmmm:

ROFL

Boozer
11-02-2004, 10:50 PM
ABC on their web site has given Florida to Bush.http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/Elections2004/president.html


It's all about Ohio now.

Frazod
11-02-2004, 10:50 PM
True. But she REALLY scares me. Typically when I see her on tv I have to leave the room. Her eyes, and as someone mentioned her mannerisms, combined with that voice just make me shudder.

Without a doubt. They should cast her in the next Star Wars movie as Palpatine's squeeze. :D

patteeu
11-02-2004, 10:52 PM
This is so intense. This afternoon I had all but given up for Bush.

I made a bet that Bush would win Ohio several months ago (based on nothing but the desire to make a friendly $1 bet with a liberal friend from Ohio). I really want to win that $1 now!

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 10:53 PM
Without a doubt. They should cast her in the next Star Wars movie as Palpatine's squeeze. :D
Or squeezed by Jabba

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 10:53 PM
Without a doubt. They should cast her in the next Star Wars movie as Palpatine's squeeze. :D


If she gets offed with a light saber at the very beginning of the film, that alone would be worth the price of admission. And the cost of the DVD would be worth it even more so as I could watch it over and over again.

Frazod
11-02-2004, 10:54 PM
If she gets offed with a light saber at the very beginning of the film, that alone would be worth the price of admission. And the cost of the DVD would be worth it even more so as I could watch it over and over again.

I'll bet she could chew through a lightsaber blade. :spock:

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 10:55 PM
Or squeezed by Jabba


Good God! Her and Jabba in the same scene together? Could you get any more ugly and grotesque?



I shouldn't have just asked that......

Taco John
11-02-2004, 10:55 PM
This thing is over... I can see the writing on the wall.

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 10:55 PM
I'll bet she could chew through a lightsaber blade. :spock:



ROFL You are probably right.

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 10:56 PM
Good God! Her and Jabba in the same scene together? Could you get any more ugly and grotesque?



I shouldn't have just asked that......
Add a nude Donna Shelalah and Robert Reich in a thong

Frazod
11-02-2004, 10:57 PM
Add a nude Donna Shelalah and Robert Reich in a thong

MAKE IT STOP :eek:

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 10:57 PM
Carville-" I think Kerry is going to draw an inside straight."

Now he said "I think..."

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 10:58 PM
This thing is over... I can see the writing on the wall.

Kodachrome?

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 10:58 PM
Carville-" I think Kerry is going to draw an inside straight."

Now he said "I think..."
liar's poker

KCWolfman
11-02-2004, 10:58 PM
This thing is over... I can see the writing on the wall.
Is that inherent?

Taco John
11-02-2004, 11:00 PM
Laugh it up furball...

KingPriest2
11-02-2004, 11:00 PM
CNN just said with 97% reported 52% bush, 48% kerry. Looks like Bush has FL. CNN still not calling it officially yet.


CBS has called FL, CO, and NM

alnorth
11-02-2004, 11:00 PM
At this point, the KEY IS CLEVELAND. Cleveland is John Kerry's last hope, if that city does not wipe out Bush's lead, then itll be over.

KingPriest2
11-02-2004, 11:01 PM
Laugh it up furball...


Have you found the connection to the word smart yet?

Miles
11-02-2004, 11:01 PM
Carville-" I think Kerry is going to draw an inside straight."

Now he said "I think..."

I thought he said kerry need to draw an inside straight to pull it off. Not certain since im kind of casually watching while surfin the planet.

Boozer
11-02-2004, 11:01 PM
Laugh it up furball...

Poor leadership for four more years is no laughing matter, much less something to celebrate.

KingPriest2
11-02-2004, 11:02 PM
At this point, the KEY IS CLEVELAND. Cleveland is John Kerry's last hope, if that city does not wipe out Bush's lead, then itll be over.


I have been hearing Franklin and Johnson? around Columbus are deciding points as well.

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 11:02 PM
Add a nude Donna Shelalah and Robert Reich in a thong


:shake:

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:04 PM
CBS has called FL, CO, and NM

NM for Bush?

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:05 PM
I thought he said kerry need to draw an inside straight to pull it off. Not certain since im kind of casually watching while surfin the planet.


The second time...he used the word 'need'

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:05 PM
CNN 197-188 BUSH
CBS 246-199 BUSH
FOX 210-144 BUSH Website
ABC 237-188 BUSH
NBC 207-199 BUSH

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 11:05 PM
I gotta tell you...right now it is about 33/66 that Bush wins Ohio. If he wins it will be by hundreds or a few thousand votes.

Got a feeling he's going to get creamed with Cleveland results come in. To the tune of about 100,000 votes.

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 11:06 PM
NM for Bush?



I don't think so. But Fox has been going over some of the numbers, and it is still very close.

I doubt anything CBS puts up, even Texas as a Bush state.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 11:07 PM
Cleveland is coming in rapidly now. it's 2/3 counted, if you assume that the other 1/3 is identical (2 to 1 for kerry), Bush's lead goes down to 1%.

Then itll be a question of it theres enough votes left to knock out that last 1%

KingPriest2
11-02-2004, 11:07 PM
NM for Bush?


yes

Miles
11-02-2004, 11:08 PM
I gotta tell you...right now it is about 33/66 that Bush wins Ohio. If he wins it will be by hundreds or a few thousand votes.

Got a feeling he's going to get creamed with Cleveland results come in. To the tune of about 100,000 votes.

Yeah i think that estimate is pretty on. Bush seems to have the edge but its hardly over. Going to be close.

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:08 PM
Was gay marriage voted down in every state it was on the ballot?

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:09 PM
I gotta tell you...right now it is about 33/66 that Bush wins Ohio. If he wins it will be by hundreds or a few thousand votes.

Got a feeling he's going to get creamed with Cleveland results come in. To the tune of about 100,000 votes.

Cuyahoga

Kerry
282,406 63% 67% of precincts reporting

Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
163,732 37%

Updated: 12:03 a.m. ET

KingPriest2
11-02-2004, 11:09 PM
NM for Bush?


They took it away they did have it for awhile

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:09 PM
Was gay marriage voted down in every state it was on the ballot?


I think so.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 11:10 PM
GOP picks up Texas #02

All five of the seats which the GOP targetted for takeovers in Texas have been won.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:10 PM
They took it away they did have it for awhile

I think he'll get it, but that was awful early.

Miles
11-02-2004, 11:10 PM
CNN finally projected FL for Bush.

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:10 PM
I think so.


Haha

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:12 PM
Michael Barrone just went through a rambling explanation, but it sounded good for Bush.

Sideburn
11-02-2004, 11:12 PM
Was gay marriage voted down in every state it was on the ballot?
It was voted down here by a pretty large margin. Like 78% to 22%.

alnorth
11-02-2004, 11:13 PM
Cool, Bush bumped up a little back to 3%. Some uncounted GOP precincts must have just come in. At this point, Cleveland alone is insufficient for Kerry to win, but I'm not ready yet to say that Bush has it won.

bkkcoh
11-02-2004, 11:13 PM
CNN finally projected FL for Bush.


That had to kill CNN to project Florida to Bush.....

DAMN....

bkkcoh
11-02-2004, 11:15 PM
Was gay marriage voted down in every state it was on the ballot?

USA Today link (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/initiative.htm)

Early results show gay-marriage bans bulldozed to victory in Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah.

Sideburn
11-02-2004, 11:16 PM
According to Fox, Kerry has all but conceded Florida...time to head off to the DemocraticUnderground for some comedy.

Miles
11-02-2004, 11:17 PM
That had to kill CNN to project Florida to Bush.....

DAMN....

I seemed to get the impression they were being overly cautious since they called it wrong last time and looked bad.

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:17 PM
That had to kill CNN to project Florida to Bush.....

DAMN....


Yep...it's almost be a half hour since two other networks gave it to Bush.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:17 PM
Ohio

Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
2,166,221 52% 0

Democratic Kerry
2,032,314 48% 0

12:15am 11/3

InChiefsHell
11-02-2004, 11:19 PM
FNC still won't call Florida for Bush. I think they are just being extremely cautious due to last time. They will wait for 100% I bet...

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:20 PM
MAINE [Drew Cline]
Latest AP report, filed at 11:59, still says 2nd District too close to call.
Posted at 11:59 PM

Worth 1 Electoral College vote

InChiefsHell
11-02-2004, 11:20 PM
FNC also will not call California for Kerry...which is just stupid...

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:20 PM
WTF is a blog? I know it's internet related...but WTF?

ROYC75
11-02-2004, 11:22 PM
It's over, Bush wins.

Ohio, NM, and Alaska will go to Bush

Wisconsin is still winnable gor Bush as well.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:23 PM
Ohio

Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
2,166,221 52% 0

Democratic Kerry
2,032,314 48% 0

12:15am 11/3

Update at 12:21am

Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
2,193,201 52% 0

Democratic Kerry
2,047,462 48% 0

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 11:24 PM
FNC still won't call Florida for Bush. I think they are just being extremely cautious due to last time. They will wait for 100% I bet...


ABC and CNN have called it for crying out loud, there is little reason to hold off at this point.


ABC just called Colorado for W.

KingPriest2
11-02-2004, 11:24 PM
ABC-Not projected but the way it is looking

Also Maine has all 4 going to Kerry but abc has given him 3

Bush-237 so far
CO-9 leading by a nice margin
NM-5
Ohio-20
Alaska-3

274 projected



Kerry-195
Minn-10 leading by a nice margin
Mich-17
Hawaii-4
Washington-11

227 projected plus maine 1 228

Too close to call -Kerry leading by at lest 1 percent
Iowa-7
Wisc-10
NV-5
NH-4

254 to Kerry

Kerry is going to need Ohio to win but it does not look good

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:25 PM
CNN 197-188 BUSH
CBS 246-200 BUSH
FOX 210-144 BUSH Website
ABC 246-195 BUSH
NBC 246-206 BUSH

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:26 PM
WTF is a blog? I know it's internet related...but WTF?

It's basically just an Internet journal and they are constantly updated.

Try this one

http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/corner.asp

Or this one

http://www.instapundit.com/

Both are Conservative.

InChiefsHell
11-02-2004, 11:26 PM
ABC and CNN have called it for crying out loud, there is little reason to hold off at this point.


ABC just called Colorado for W.
Agreed. Methinks they are a bit gunshy about the large egg cassarole that was on their faces in 2000, but it is ridiculous. Every time Brit Hume mentions it, I swear he shudders...

...likewise the California thing. That one is an easy call for Kerry...

Miles
11-02-2004, 11:27 PM
CNN just called CO for Bush. No big suprise there. Just called Montana for Bush too.

They have it a 236 - 188

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:27 PM
10 hours to vote in Ohio in some places.

tk13
11-02-2004, 11:28 PM
On NBC they are reporting that people in Ohio are still in line to vote that have waited for over 10 hours....

headsnap
11-02-2004, 11:28 PM
Kerry is waiting on the results from the state of France.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:28 PM
Update at 12:21am

Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
2,193,201 52% 0

Democratic Kerry
2,047,462 48% 0

12:24am

Ohio

Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
2,229,971 51% 0

Democratic Kerry
2,100,293 48% 0
79% precincts reporting - Updated 12:24 a.m. ET

InChiefsHell
11-02-2004, 11:28 PM
It's over, Bush wins.

Ohio, NM, and Alaska will go to Bush

Wisconsin is still winnable gor Bush as well.
Barring any total weirdness, I agree. Looks like the Reps retain the house and Senate as well...they better damn well do something with it now.. :cuss:

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:29 PM
Cuyahoga coming in with more votes (Heavy Kerry county)

Democratic Kerry
322,798 65% 76% of precincts reporting

Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
175,288 35%

tk13
11-02-2004, 11:29 PM
On NBC they are reporting that people in Ohio are still in line to vote that have waited for over 10 hours....
....And that at the site where this reporter was reporting, that the final votes may not be cast until 3 am....

Miles
11-02-2004, 11:29 PM
On NBC they are reporting that people in Ohio are still in line to vote that have waited for over 10 hours....

Damn thats some dedicated people. Props to them.

InChiefsHell
11-02-2004, 11:30 PM
Kerry is waiting on the results from the state of France.
...and the mountains of Tora Bora... :)

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:30 PM
10 hours to vote in Ohio in some places.

That's a looooong time.

cdcox
11-02-2004, 11:31 PM
So, do they close the end of the line when the polls close, or do they let anyone saunter up to the end of the line at midninght?

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 11:31 PM
Just talked to someone who knows about such things...says Kerry has another 70K votes to get out of Cleveland and the rest of the picture is pretty much a wash (maybe Kerry gets a few more votes). Bush will win by 50K votes according to this person.

We'll see.

tk13
11-02-2004, 11:32 PM
Damn thats some dedicated people. Props to them.
Yeah I didn't catch all of it, but apparently that was one concern voiced there, that in such a close race right now it things might come down to who's supporters have the most endurance.....

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:33 PM
That's a looooong time.

And they won't take the paper ballot...fearing they'll be thrown out.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 11:33 PM
Oh yeah...and get ready to get a crash-course on provisional ballots.

"The important thing to remember about provisional ballots is that they are classified under the law as non-votes and must be proven to be legitimate."

OldTownChief
11-02-2004, 11:34 PM
Just talked to someone who knows about such things...says Kerry has another 70K votes to get out of Cleveland and the rest of the picture is pretty much a wash (maybe Kerry gets a few more votes). Bush will win by 50K votes according to this person.

We'll see.

With over 200,000 provisional votes to go through out there.

Sorry, didn't see your 2nd post.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:34 PM
Just talked to someone who knows about such things...says Kerry has another 70K votes to get out of Cleveland and the rest of the picture is pretty much a wash (maybe Kerry gets a few more votes). Bush will win by 50K votes according to this person.

We'll see.

FWIW

I was just "assured" that there is just not enough votes left in Ohio for Kerry as well.

Taco John
11-02-2004, 11:35 PM
This thing is over.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:35 PM
Oh yeah...and get ready to get a crash-course on provisional ballots.

"The important thing to remember about provisional ballots is that they are classified under the law as non-votes and must be proven to be legitimate."

Exactly.

Sideburn
11-02-2004, 11:36 PM
Fox just gave NH to Kerry.

Miles
11-02-2004, 11:36 PM
CNN now at 246 - 188

Sideburn
11-02-2004, 11:37 PM
Vitter wins in LA aswell...another seat

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:37 PM
CNN 246-188 BUSH
CBS 246-200 BUSH
FOX 210-144 BUSH Website
ABC 246-195 BUSH
NBC 246-206 BUSH

KingPriest2
11-02-2004, 11:37 PM
This thing is over.


Oh poor TJ starting to realize the truth yet?






I guess you aren't connected to the word smart just yet

alnorth
11-02-2004, 11:37 PM
Vitter wins! No run-off! Wow, I didnt expect that at all.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:37 PM
Ohio


Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
2,308,194 51% 0

Democratic Kerry
2,180,849 49% 0


82% precincts reporting - Updated 12:33 a.m. ET

Cuyahoga County
Updated: 12:26 a.m. ET

Democratic Kerry
322,798 65% 76% of precincts reporting

Republican Bush
(Incumbent)
175,288 35%

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 11:37 PM
This thing is over.


Nope.

Look for the Dems...after losing four senate seats and a handful of house seats to drag the presidency into the courts to challenge as many provisional ballots as they can find.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:38 PM
Vitter wins! No run-off! Wow, I didnt expect that at all.

Damn!

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:38 PM
Nope.

Look for the Dems...after losing four senate seats and a handful of house seats to drag the presidency into the courts to challenge as many provisional ballots as they can find.

Send lawyers guns and money....

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 11:39 PM
What's that get us to? 55 seats with two left to defend?

Garcia Bronco
11-02-2004, 11:39 PM
More gems from Dan Rather

"You can bet the double wide that Bush is going to win the election."

What a ****in asshole

Miles
11-02-2004, 11:40 PM
This thing is over.

Not giving up hope yet but yeah chances are not good. Ohio is looking like a mess so who knows what will happen there.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:40 PM
What's that get us to? 55 seats with two left to defend?

Right..I think.

B2chiefsfan
11-02-2004, 11:41 PM
More gems from Dan Rather

"You can bet the double wide that Bush is going to win the election."

What a ****in asshole


His bitterness is killing me.


ROFLROFLROFL

Frazod
11-02-2004, 11:41 PM
Fox just gave Ohio to Bush.

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:41 PM
FOX CALLS OHIO!!!!!

cdcox
11-02-2004, 11:41 PM
Ohio Bush called by Fox

Raiderhader
11-02-2004, 11:41 PM
Send lawyers guns and money....



Emphasis on the guns.


Let's shoot ALL of the lawers, Democrat and Republican.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
11-02-2004, 11:41 PM
Fox just projected Bush wins Ohio!

Michael Michigan
11-02-2004, 11:41 PM
:toast:

Sideburn
11-02-2004, 11:42 PM
w00t!

jjjayb
11-02-2004, 11:42 PM
Welcome to Ohio. The next Florida.

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 11:42 PM
Wow...Clark Cty is going heavy for Kerry in NV. Bush better win NM.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
11-02-2004, 11:43 PM
Holy Kraut!

I agree with Billy Kristol. As cautious as Fox has been so far tonight, they must have something that we haven't seen yet.

Wow!

RINGLEADER
11-02-2004, 11:43 PM
Kerry better pull this thing out or Terry McAuliffe is going to get lynched in Boston...

Taco John
11-02-2004, 11:43 PM
Oh poor TJ starting to realize the truth yet?






I guess you aren't connected to the word smart just yet



Seriously dude... That's all you got?

That's the problem when you smack someone as badly as I smacked this guy... They turn into high schoolers trying to prove they've got pubes...

We get it dude.