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mlyonsd
11-03-2004, 11:32 AM
I think Powell will leave. Other then that I think everyone else stays.

HC_Chief
11-03-2004, 12:01 PM
I hope Powell remains... every leader needs a dissenting voice; someone who sees things from a differing perspective.

I'd like to see Rumsfeld go. He bungled Iraq; from taking Chalabi's advice (disarm & disband Iraqi military), to interfering in tactical decisions on the ground. We cannot afford to have a micro-manager in charge of defense. We need someone with a clear set of <i>strategic</i> objectives that will allow the military to complete <i>tactically</i> by the means the <b>military</b> deems necessary.

ChiTown
11-03-2004, 12:04 PM
I hope Powell remains... every leader needs a dissenting voice; someone who sees things from a differing perspective.

I'd like to see Rumsfeld go. He bungled Iraq; from taking Chalabi's advice (disarm & disband Iraqi military), to interfering in tactical decisions on the ground. We cannot afford to have a micro-manager in charge of defense. We need someone with a clear set of <i>strategic</i> objectives that will allow the military to complete <i>tactically</i> by the means the <b>military</b> deems necessary.

I have no problem with dissenting voices, but Powell is a weak leader, IMO. His views on world politics are too fragile for me. I really hope he's gone, along with Rumsfeld.

Warrior5
11-03-2004, 12:11 PM
I bet Giuliani is appointed to some cabinet position.

KCTitus
11-03-2004, 12:13 PM
I hope Bush appoints a couple of Halliburton board members.

ChiTown
11-03-2004, 12:25 PM
I hope Bush appoints a couple of Halliburton board members.

What the hell do you want? I mean, Cheney is already the VP...... ;)

Baby Lee
11-03-2004, 12:33 PM
Guiliani would be a far superior AG to Ashcroft.

Amnorix
11-03-2004, 12:38 PM
Guiliani would be a far superior AG to Ashcroft.

My dead cat would be too... :cuss:

Amnorix
11-03-2004, 12:39 PM
Really the only question is whether Powell runs out before he gets kicked out.

That relationship long ago turned sour, IMHO. Powell doesn't buy into this neo-con crap, or Rummy's revamping of the military.

ChiTown
11-03-2004, 12:46 PM
Really the only question is whether Powell runs out before he gets kicked out.

That relationship long ago turned sour, IMHO. Powell doesn't buy into this neo-con crap, or Rummy's revamping of the military.

I love the neo-con stuff. Cracks me up everytime I hear/see it. It's the libbies revenge term.

Amnorix
11-03-2004, 01:01 PM
I love the neo-con stuff. Cracks me up everytime I hear/see it. It's the libbies revenge term.

:spock: Obviously you haven't heard of The American Conservative, or whatever the name of that magazine is, endorsing KERRY for President, because they desperately wish to rid conservatism of this neo-con agenda.

Make no mistake about it, "traditional" conservatives are NOT happy with neo-cons. Right now, of course, Bush and the neo-cons own the Republican Party lock, stock and barrel, so it's irrelevant, but don't think for a second that there aren't significant elements within conservative intellgentsia that are NOT happy about this.

KCTitus
11-03-2004, 01:02 PM
What is a neo-con exactly?

mlyonsd
11-03-2004, 01:03 PM
What is a neo-con exactly?

Duh, anyone that would vote Republican.

ChiTown
11-03-2004, 01:13 PM
What is a neo-con exactly?

According to the CSM...

Radicals... (http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/neocon101.html)

Frankie
11-03-2004, 01:42 PM
I bet Giuliani is appointed to some cabinet position.
Why else do you think he's been licking Bush's behind left and right?

mlyonsd
11-03-2004, 01:43 PM
Why else do you think he's been licking Bush's behind left and right?

Wouldn't that be a different part of the anatomy?

God, I'm having fun today.

HC_Chief
11-03-2004, 01:51 PM
Interesting.

FWIW I took the 'Are you a neoconservative?' quiz on that site.... seems I'm in the same camp as Powell: "Realist". Funny, I've always considered myself a realist... this is the first example of a pseudo test that affirmed it :D hehe

Baby Lee
11-03-2004, 01:54 PM
Why else do you think he's been licking Bush's behind left and right?
For all your talk of honor, you do an AWFUL lot of demeaning those you oppose sexually.

John_Wayne
11-03-2004, 01:54 PM
I think John McCain should be made the Ambassador to Nepal. I can't stand his dumb ass.

KC Jones
11-03-2004, 02:07 PM
According to the CSM...

Radicals... (http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/neocon101.html)

I think what that CSMonitor article fails to differentiate are some key differences between traditional conservative values and neo-conservative values. Gone is the concept of controlling spending or of having a small government or a smaller government role in peoples lives. Neoconservatives believe strongly in expanding the policing and investigative powers of the Federal government.

Iowanian
11-03-2004, 02:11 PM
I think Ashcroft is gone.

I think that would be a great idea.

Powell and Rumsfeld can stay or go.......I really don't care.