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ENDelt260
11-16-2004, 03:53 PM
ABC apologizes for provocative 'MNF' intro

Nov. 16, 2004
SportsLine.com wire reports

NEW YORK -- ABC apologized Tuesday for a steamy intro to Monday Night Football after receiving complaints from viewers and the NFL.

The spot featured a naked Nicollette Sheridan jumping into the arms of Terrell Owens.

Before the Philadelphia-Dallas game, ABC showed Owens and Sheridan in an empty locker room in an attempt to spoof the network's Desperate Housewives. Sheridan, who stars in the show, was wearing only a towel and provocatively asked Owens to skip the game for her.

After she dropped her towel, he agreed to be late for the contest and hugged her. Then the shot panned out to two more stars of Desperate Housewives, Teri Hatcher and Felicity Huffman, watching the scene unfold on a television and commenting on desperate women.

"We have heard from many of our viewers about last night's MNF opening segment and we agree that the placement was inappropriate," ABC said in a statement. "We apologize."

The NFL called the intro "inappropriate and unsuitable for our Monday Night Football audience."

"While ABC may have gained attention for one of its other shows, the NFL and its fans lost," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.

AP NEWS
The Associated Press News Service

Copyright 2004, The Associated Press, All Rights Reserved

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7894523

ENDelt260
11-16-2004, 03:54 PM
I'd say I was scarred for life by the intro... if I hadn't been watching it at the titty bar.

HC_Chief
11-16-2004, 03:54 PM
Pussies

ROYC75
11-16-2004, 04:01 PM
:shake:

The Rick
11-16-2004, 04:02 PM
This thread is worthless without pictures!

Bwana
11-16-2004, 04:04 PM
Pussies

Yep

Miles
11-16-2004, 04:05 PM
Damn people have gotten oversensitive

Dr. Facebook Fever
11-16-2004, 04:05 PM
Desperate Housewives is retarded.

ENDelt260
11-16-2004, 04:05 PM
Desperate Housewives is retarded.
B&

Demonpenz
11-16-2004, 04:08 PM
guess we won't get to see the intro with johnny morton and the guys on queer as folk.

2bikemike
11-16-2004, 04:10 PM
Damn I miss all the good stuff.

BIG_DADDY
11-16-2004, 04:10 PM
Whatever, what is this Islam now?

Calcountry
11-16-2004, 04:15 PM
ABC apologizes for provocative 'MNF' intro

Nov. 16, 2004
SportsLine.com wire reports

NEW YORK -- ABC apologized Tuesday for a steamy intro to Monday Night Football after receiving complaints from viewers and the NFL.

The spot featured a naked Nicollette Sheridan jumping into the arms of Terrell Owens.

Before the Philadelphia-Dallas game, ABC showed Owens and Sheridan in an empty locker room in an attempt to spoof the network's Desperate Housewives. Sheridan, who stars in the show, was wearing only a towel and provocatively asked Owens to skip the game for her.

After she dropped her towel, he agreed to be late for the contest and hugged her. Then the shot panned out to two more stars of Desperate Housewives, Teri Hatcher and Felicity Huffman, watching the scene unfold on a television and commenting on desperate women.

"We have heard from many of our viewers about last night's MNF opening segment and we agree that the placement was inappropriate," ABC said in a statement. "We apologize."

The NFL called the intro "inappropriate and unsuitable for our Monday Night Football audience."

"While ABC may have gained attention for one of its other shows, the NFL and its fans lost," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.

AP NEWS
The Associated Press News Service

Copyright 2004, The Associated Press, All Rights Reserved

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7894523
There I sat, with my 11 year old Daughter, and 7 year old son. I deliberately tuned in the show to see some football hype and I got a Bitch teaching my kids how to fug arround.

They should have just as well had a wardrobe malfunction.

Raiderhader
11-16-2004, 04:16 PM
guess we won't get to see the intro with johnny morton and the guys on queer as folk.


ROFL

tk13
11-16-2004, 04:16 PM
Do they not show commercials for the show during the game? What's the difference?

ENDelt260
11-16-2004, 04:19 PM
Do they not show commercials for the show during the game? What's the difference?
The commercials don't tarnish TO's squeaky clean image.

Demonpenz
11-16-2004, 04:22 PM
It would be so bad, but it was a white woman

ENDelt260
11-16-2004, 04:54 PM
Keitz was offended.

He's talking about it now.

memyselfI
11-16-2004, 04:57 PM
Sorry for posting the other thread, I didn't see this one.

I thought it was completely inappropriate and UTTERLY hypocritical considering the outrage over Janet's half second boob flash.

My 8 year old said 'what was that' and I just said it was supposed to be a joke. I'm sure he's fine but I thought it was just completely ridiculous.

Rausch
11-16-2004, 05:02 PM
There I sat, with my 11 year old Daughter, and 7 year old son. I deliberately tuned in the show to see some football hype and I got a Bitch teaching my kids how to fug arround.

They should have just as well had a wardrobe malfunction.

Violence = OK.

Titties = not OK.

I hate parties like that...

Demonpenz
11-16-2004, 05:04 PM
i just wish the intro was longer, i couldn't even get a good crank to it

gblowfish
11-16-2004, 05:08 PM
guess we won't get to see the intro with johnny morton and the guys on queer as folk. Who'd drop the towel first???

LiL stumppy
11-16-2004, 05:30 PM
There just boobs,their kids are going to see them sooner or later.

ENDelt260
11-16-2004, 05:40 PM
Sorry for posting the other thread, I didn't see this one.

Damn you!! You know you're supposed to meticulously study the front page before posting a new thread!

The Rick
11-16-2004, 05:43 PM
This thread is no longer worthless...

Brando
11-16-2004, 05:54 PM
I know how to solve all these controversies. Start showing porn on Prime-Time TV. Sheeit start putting it on Saturday mornings too. Then maybe children can be returned to their rightful place in the salt mines.

Logical
11-16-2004, 05:56 PM
:rolleyes:

How pathetic that they apologized for the intro.

Brando
11-16-2004, 05:58 PM
How else are you supposed to get people to listen to John Madden ramble for three hours?

Logical
11-16-2004, 05:59 PM
The commercials don't tarnish TO's squeaky clean image.
ROFL:clap:

Bwana
11-16-2004, 05:59 PM
Sorry for posting the other thread, I didn't see this one.

I thought it was completely inappropriate and UTTERLY hypocritical considering the outrage over Janet's half second boob flash.

My 8 year old said 'what was that' and I just said it was supposed to be a joke. I'm sure he's fine but I thought it was just completely ridiculous.

Prude

RedNFeisty
11-16-2004, 05:59 PM
I'm pretty upset that I didn't get to see her tits.

ENDelt260
11-16-2004, 06:01 PM
I'm pretty upset that I didn't get to see her tits.
That's why you gotta watch the game at the titty bar.

"Hey, look... there's a broad that's 15 years younger than the one on TV... and she's facing me."

Bwana
11-16-2004, 06:01 PM
I'm pretty upset that I didn't get to see her tits.

ROFL You and I both. Red...............the anti- D neise.

Brando
11-16-2004, 06:01 PM
That's why you gotta watch the game at the titty bar.

"Hey, look... there's a broad that's 15 years younger than the one on TV... and she's facing me."

I thought that Goatboy was the main attraction at the strip club that you frequented.

memyselfI
11-16-2004, 06:03 PM
ROFL You and I both. Red...............the anti- D neise.

Oh, I'd be all for seeing her boobs if it was Cinemax or HBO. Or 10 pm at night...

or if it were my 12 year old who I'd be embarrassed but not shocked. But for my 8 year old it was just alittle too much to have to explain before a football game.

RedNFeisty
11-16-2004, 06:03 PM
That's why you gotta watch the game at the titty bar.

"Hey, look... there's a broad that's 15 years younger than the one on TV... and she's facing me."

Why would you be watching the game!?!

RedNFeisty
11-16-2004, 06:04 PM
ROFL You and I both. Red...............the anti- D neise.

We each have our own likes and dislikes!!

Brando
11-16-2004, 06:05 PM
Oh, I'd be all for seeing her boobs if it was Cinemax or HBO. Or 10 pm at night...

or if it were my 12 year old who I'd be embarrassed but not shocked. But for my 8 year old it was just alittle too much to have to explain before a football game.
I was poundin' the ol' meat wagon by that age. I wouldn't be surprised if he was embarrassed just because he was watching it with his mom in the room.

ENDelt260
11-16-2004, 06:06 PM
Why would you be watching the game!?!
I'm talented... I can do two things at once.

Not to mention... apparently, 7pm at a Tucson titty bar ain't the best time to see the top-notch girls.

Jenson71
11-16-2004, 06:06 PM
I was poundin' the ol' meat wagon by that age. I wouldn't be surprised if he was embarrassed just because he was watching it with his mom in the room.

At 8?

memyselfI
11-16-2004, 06:10 PM
I was poundin' the ol' meat wagon by that age. I wouldn't be surprised if he was embarrassed just because he was watching it with his mom in the room.

No, that would be my 12 year old. My 8 year old has walked in the room at inopportune moments (twice last year) so he fully knows what was going on in the innuendo of the scene.

BIG_DADDY
11-16-2004, 06:13 PM
No, that would be my 12 year old. My 8 year old has walked in the room at inopportune moments (twice last year) so he fully knows what was going on in the innuendo of the scene.

Kid's ruined for life.

Jenson71
11-16-2004, 06:14 PM
No, that would be my 12 year old. My 8 year old has walked in the room at inopportune moments (twice last year) so he fully knows what was going on in the innuendo of the scene.

oh my...oh my...

Jenson71
11-16-2004, 06:16 PM
The shrieks of "OSAMA!! OSAMA!!" from down the hallway awoke little Billy late that night...

Brando
11-16-2004, 06:16 PM
At 8?
Sorry man I was a late bloomer :thumb:

LiL stumppy
11-16-2004, 06:17 PM
At 8?

ROFL

rocks
11-16-2004, 06:27 PM
I called ABC to complain that they didn't show TO bend'er over the bench. They called me cras!

Count Alex's Losses
11-16-2004, 06:28 PM
The shrieks of "OSAMA!! OSAMA!!" from down the hallway awoke little Billy late that night...

ALLAH! ALLAH! ROFL

Michael Michigan
11-16-2004, 06:36 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/eo/20041116/lthumb.076722f1e1e7ba739279efa942bb3af3

Calcountry
11-16-2004, 06:36 PM
It would be so bad, but it was a white woman
We all know they like that Dark meat.

Calcountry
11-16-2004, 06:38 PM
Violence = OK.

Titties = not OK.

I hate parties like that...
The NFL is a game.

The Octogon, now there is violence.

Calcountry
11-16-2004, 06:39 PM
Oh, I'd be all for seeing her boobs if it was Cinemax or HBO. Or 10 pm at night...

or if it were my 12 year old who I'd be embarrassed but not shocked. But for my 8 year old it was just alittle too much to have to explain before a football game.
I agree with you on this point.

Taco John
11-16-2004, 06:44 PM
Oh, I'd be all for seeing her boobs if it was Cinemax or HBO. Or 10 pm at night...

or if it were my 12 year old who I'd be embarrassed but not shocked. But for my 8 year old it was just alittle too much to have to explain before a football game.



Quit preaching your family values to me, libby.

Calcountry
11-16-2004, 06:56 PM
Quit preaching your family values to me, libby.
ROFL , I must admit it is odd coming from her.

I think she IS the Devil's advocate.

Ultra Peanut
11-16-2004, 07:09 PM
guess we won't get to see the intro with johnny morton and the guys on queer as folk.:LOL:

philfree
11-16-2004, 08:20 PM
Nothing was shown but what irks me is T.O. putting his team second. There's no room for that in football and the message was bad IMO.

PhilFree :arrow:

stevieray
11-16-2004, 08:22 PM
Nothing was shown but what irks me is T.O. putting his team second. There's no room for that in football and the message was bad IMO.

PhilFree :arrow:

It must have been a documentary.

philfree
11-16-2004, 08:26 PM
It must have been a documentary.


Pretty much...........


PhilFree :arrow:

Inspector
11-16-2004, 08:27 PM
The shrieks of "OSAMA!! OSAMA!!" from down the hallway awoke little Billy late that night...
ROFL ROFL

Nzoner
11-16-2004, 08:29 PM
Damn I miss all the good stuff.

I missed it too until now that is (http://www.wfaa.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=www.wfaa.com/041115_2000mnfopen_wz.wmv)

:thumb:

Thig Lyfe
11-16-2004, 08:34 PM
Naked women + anything = good!

Who's helping you with your math, ENDelt? David?

Mile High Mania
11-16-2004, 08:35 PM
Sure, it danced on the line... but, what doesn't dance on the line in prime time? The same parents bitching about their kids seeing this probably sent them to their rooms to play video games... like Grand Theft Auto.

2bikemike
11-16-2004, 08:43 PM
After watching the clip that Nzoner linked I didn't find anything wrong with that. You can't see anything. Sure the implications were there but hell you see that on commercials and TV shows all day long.

Get over it!

digi2fish
11-16-2004, 08:55 PM
There just boobs,their kids are going to see them sooner or later.

well, in fact the kids are seeing them very soon.
those are the source of their food....
:rolleyes:

Nzoner
11-16-2004, 09:43 PM
After watching the clip that Nzoner linked I didn't find anything wrong with that. You can't see anything. Sure the implications were there but hell you see that on commercials and TV shows all day long.

Get over it!

Agreed,besides when it comes to Nicolette I could look at her all day in Noises Off and now that I've done a search I've got to see her in a movie called Raw Nerve,sorry can't post that link here I may get written up.

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/sharon-stone/scanss/sheridann/nsb3432.jpg

Miles
11-16-2004, 09:51 PM
Im sure everyone has been eagerly awaiting to hear what whitlock has to say on this matter so here it is... ;)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/041116

By Jason Whitlock
Special to Page 2

Explain this: Janet Jackson's lovely, surgically-enhanced breast, exposed for the briefest of seconds, is a Super Bowl outrage worthy of condemnation from this country's highest power, NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue. But a naked, blonde Desperate Housewife jumping into the lusting arms of Terrell Owens is the perfect way to kickoff Monday Night Football?

Explain this: Joe Horn grabbing a cell phone, Chad Johnson making a sign, T.O. shaking pom-pons and Warren Sapp skipping through the opposition's pre-game calisthenics are the kind of showboating and self-promotion the NFL wants to avoid. But a naked, blonde Desperate Housewife talking Terrell Owens into missing an NFC East clash is the perfect way to promote Monday Night Football?

You can't. Neither can the NFL. Nor can ABC. The league issued a statement on Tuesday, calling the network's opening of Monday night's Philadelphia-Dallas clash "inappropriate and unsuitable."

ABC, meanwhile, apologized for the risqué lead-in after it heard complaints from a number of offended viewers.

Doesn't change a thing. It happened. Millions of people saw it, right there in prime time. And ABC, by issuing the apology Tuesday amid controversy, received the free publicity it wanted for its Housewives on Sundays.

Look, I wasn't among the offended ones. I was shocked and stunned. And jealous. As long as we're trying to explain these obvious NFL hypocrisies, I'd like someone, please, to also explain to me why Justin Timberlake and Terrell Owens land all of the good jobs.

The spoof on ABC's wildly popular, night-time drama, "Desperate Housewives," caught me -- and I'm sure everyone else -- totally off guard. I was jogging along on a treadmill at the downtown Hyatt Hotel in New Orleans when, out of the corner of my eye, I saw T.O., in full uniform, standing in the locker room with a wet, towel-clad blonde. I heard T.O. say something about "what's buried underneath that pool," and then I saw the naked, blonde Desperate Housewife drop her towel and leap into T.O.'s sure hands.

Uncertain of what I'd just witnessed and looking for an excuse to cut my workout 30 minutes short, I jumped off the treadmill, ran up to my room and frantically started calling all of my friends who might have been watching MNF.

My friend Ivan, a huge sports fan, TiVos everything. But this time, he didn't tune in in time to catch the whole opening. He only caught the ending, when the naked, blonde Desperate Housewife dropped towel and buried herself in T.O.'s arms.

"Hmmm,'' he said. "I bet there are some Cowboys' fans who didn't appreciate seeing that."

Yeah, they got a little more than Hank Williams Jr.

Now, my friend Jimmy The Freak, a deputy sheriff and moonlighting comedian, saw the whole thing.

"It was classic buck in the big house!'' screamed The Freak. "It was a new-millennium remake of that old Ken Norton movie, 'Mandingo'."

Now, I may not always understand The Freak's analogies, at least he confirmed what I saw. Yes, ABC opened its telecast of "Monday Night Football," the NFL's regular-season showcase, with the league's No. 1 showboat showboating for TV ratings. One of the NFL's most-reprimanded stars participated in a sexually-titillating spoof designed to shock TV viewers.

Nicollette Sheridan
Even without her towel, Nicollette Sheridan drew stares at this month's American Music Awards.

Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake wanted to shock and titillate and promote. Joe Horn, Chad Johnson and Terrell Owens just want to promote themselves. What they do after a big play isn't remotely shocking or titillating.

How can the league stand against orchestrated end-zone celebrations and tolerate pre-game titillation at the same time? How can the league legislate how many players can do the Lambeau Leap after a touchdown, and tolerate Monday night nudity at the same time?

How can the league complain about the negative images depicted on the fictional show "Playmakers" and tolerate the depiction of T.O. as a libido-driven wide receiver at the same time?

The NFL, after the fact, has condemned the Monday night opening. But somebody had to know it was happening, either in the league office or at the Eagles' headquarters.

Truth is, every time T.O. poses on the Cowboys' star in the end zone, every time Warren Sapp prances through somebody's pre-game warmups, every time Joe Horn makes an in-game cell-phone call, the cameras are there at the ready, front and center. Nobody thinks they should pan away from it.

The truth, too, is that each network that televises the NFL uses the football broadcasts to promote its other programming. And was what ABC showed in the MNF opening any racier than what appears each week on "Desperate Housewives?"

You can't be a little bit pregnant. The NFL is nothing more than a long-running soap opera. It's operated for the sole purpose of driving TV ratings by any entertainment means necessary.

It's unfair to ask Janet, Justin, Joe, Chad and Terrell to play by rules the league and the networks are unwilling to follow. If the NFL gets its wish, the league will be airing games soon on every day of the week except Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays. Football's TV nation already just went through a 19-day stretch of televised, Division-I NCAA and NFL games.

Football has reached its TV saturation point. To be different and compelling, I guess we can expect to see more showboating and titillation.

Just don't be surprised if everybody remains a little hypocritical about it.

Coach
11-16-2004, 10:15 PM
So uh.... anyone want to take a guess what MNF might do on the Pats/Chiefs game?

Jenson71
11-16-2004, 10:20 PM
So uh.... anyone want to take a guess what MNF might do on the Pats/Chiefs game?

They should tie something into the sorryeverybody.com places. Each executive will show up holding a piece of paper. "We're sorry, world, for showing that intro."
"We're sorry, Denise, for making you explain what sex is to your 8 year old."
"We're sorry, male viewers, that we didn't show the front side."

tk13
11-16-2004, 10:29 PM
So uh.... anyone want to take a guess what MNF might do on the Pats/Chiefs game?
I'm guessing they'll advertise ABC's new hit series "Spermswap", and show Al Saunders and Bill Belichick's sperm fertilizing the same female egg, creating quite possibly the most dangerously well rounded coach in the history of the league.

Rausch
11-16-2004, 11:08 PM
Naked women + anything = good!

Who's helping you with your math, ENDelt? David?
ROFL

Brando
11-17-2004, 12:01 AM
So uh.... anyone want to take a guess what MNF might do on the Pats/Chiefs game?
Extreme Makeover Home Edition with Lamar and Carl talking about the stadium falling apart and LJ sharing his tear-jerking story.
Then Ty takes Carl to Sears to pick up a new defense.

Ari Chi3fs
11-17-2004, 12:07 AM
well Nicolette Sheridan was so hot back in the day, remember "The Sure Thing" with John Cusack?

http://www.impawards.com/1985/posters/sure_thing.jpg

I think ABC did this promo to help TO squash rumors that HE IS TEH GHEY!!1!1

a spandex wearing- sack huggin nut loving fag0.

go bowe
11-17-2004, 12:09 AM
I'm guessing they'll advertise ABC's new hit series "Spermswap", and show Al Saunders and Bill Belichick's sperm fertilizing the same female egg, creating quite possibly the most dangerously well rounded coach in the history of the league.ROFL ROFL ROFL

too bad we can't get that guy to coach the chiefs!! ROFL ROFL ROFL

Brando
11-17-2004, 01:08 AM
The bad news is that they will plant the sperm in Anna Nicole Smith. When he grows up he will have bigger breasts than Mark Mangino.

David.
11-17-2004, 01:39 AM
Naked women + anything = good!

Who's helping you with your math, ENDelt? David?

asshole ROFL

Pitt Gorilla
11-17-2004, 02:29 AM
:rolleyes:

How pathetic that they apologized for the intro.I agree. How PC can we possibly get? Nothing "bad" was shown, yet a few homos get upset over the suggestion?!? What the hell is going on in this country?

BTW,
We have to endure 30 hard-on pill commercials during the game, but one set of almost-titties makes us mad? I just don't get it.

splatbass
11-17-2004, 03:05 AM
All this outrage over a bare back? These people need to get a life. I'm really sick of all this self-righteous indignation over nothing. There are sitcoms on in that same timeslot that show more than that.

Rain Man
11-17-2004, 09:14 AM
Off-topic, but I've had fantasies since the age of about 13 about an all-naked women's football league.

Thig Lyfe
11-17-2004, 04:43 PM
Off-topic, but I've had fantasies since the age of about 13 about an all-naked women's football league.

Who hasn't?

ENDelt260
11-17-2004, 04:48 PM
I missed it too until now that is (http://www.wfaa.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=www.wfaa.com/041115_2000mnfopen_wz.wmv)

:thumb:
Well, now I've heard the sound.

Buried under that pool? WTF? Guess I need to watch more DH. I have no clue what they're talking about.

penguinz
11-17-2004, 04:54 PM
This is BS. Nothing was shown. There is more implied sexually in the Coors Twins comercials than here.

brent102fire
11-17-2004, 06:47 PM
Big F'n Deal! I've seen alot more than that on tv. If you don't like it, turn the channel :shake:

Nzoner
11-17-2004, 06:58 PM
Off-topic, but I've had fantasies since the age of about 13 about an all-naked women's football league.

I remember in 1978 getting Queen's album Jazz and pulling out the full color poster of the all-naked women's Bicycle Race,what a wonderful prize,sure beat the hell out of Cracker Jacks.

KcMizzou
11-17-2004, 07:00 PM
Big F'n Deal! I've seen alot more than that on tv. Fake orgasms during shampoo ads, for instance...

Demonpenz
11-17-2004, 07:00 PM
2 chicks mudwrestling

Raiderhader
11-17-2004, 07:21 PM
Kid's ruined for life.


No sh!t. Hell, I'd be ruined for life if I walked in on Denise making love to the Iranian sausage (or to anything else for that matter).

tk13
11-18-2004, 02:19 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041118/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_mnf_fallout_3

Dungy: 'MNF' Intro Racially Offensive

Wed Nov 17, 8:25 PM ET

By The Associated Press

If ABC hoped to generate a little bit more buzz for "Monday Night Football" and "Desperate Housewives," its steamy intro to the Dallas-Philadelphia game sure did the trick.

Two days after the network aired the segment featuring Eagles star receiver Terrell Owens and actress Nicollette Sheridan, coaches and players were still talking about it.

Reaction ranged from amusement to anger. Indianapolis Colts (news) coach Tony Dungy found it racially offensive.

"To me that's the first thing I thought of as an African-American," Dungy said Wednesday.

"I think it's stereotypical in looking at the players, and on the heels of the Kobe Bryant incident I think it's very insensitive. I don't think that they would have had Bill Parcells or Andy Reid or one of the owners involved in that," he added, a reference to the coaches in the game.

ABC's intro showed Sheridan wearing only a towel and provocatively asking Owens to skip the game for her as the two stood alone in a locker room. She drops the towel and jumps into Owens' arms. Owens is black and Sheridan is white.

"If that's what we have to do to get ratings, I'd rather not get them," Dungy said. "I realize that ratings pays us in this league, but if that's what we have to do, I'm willing to take a pay cut."

Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb wasn't quite as vocal, saying he didn't find the segment offensive and believed people were overreacting. (Owens wasn't at practice Wednesday, excused for what the team said were personal reasons.)

"Some people do different things," McNabb said. "Not saying that my wife would allow me to do that, but it's just something that was done, and you move on."

The segment drew complaints from viewers and the NFL. ABC Sports apologized for using the introduction to promote its show, "Desperate Housewives." Dungy's comment, however, was the first that mentioned race. He also said the segment played off stereotypes of athletes.

"That athletes are sexual predators and that that stuff is more important than what's going on on the field. That a guy was more concerned with that than the game, that's a terrible message to send," Dungy said. "I'm particularly sensitive to that. It could have been any player and I would have been outraged, but being an African-American, it particularly hurt me."

A decade ago Dungy was outspoken about the lack of black coaches in the NFL. There are currently five, including Dungy and Lovie Smith, whose Bears will face Dungy's Colts on Sunday.

"I thought it was in bad taste also," Smith said. "You could say that it was pretty close to pornographic, so any time that happens on prime time, something is wrong."

But Smith didn't find it racially offensive.

"I really can't go that far," he said. "I saw a naked lady with an athlete, period. Black, white, that doesn't really matter an awful lot to me."

Dungy said ABC had asked the Colts, who played on Monday night last week, "to do some things I thought would make our players look a little bit silly (although) nothing like that."

"We kind of declined," he said.

Some players were also shocked.

"My mouth dropped when I saw that," said Washington tight end Mike Sellers, who was watching the game with his wife. "I said, 'Did they actually plan this on TV?'"

But at least one of his teammates wasn't bothered.

"I thought it was kind of cool, myself," linebacker Marcus Washington said. "I enjoyed the skit."

KcMizzou
11-18-2004, 02:23 AM
What the hell? The fact that this has turned into such a big deal, just blows me away.

Thank you, Janet Jackson.

Infidel Goat
11-18-2004, 08:35 AM
So uh.... anyone want to take a guess what MNF might do on the Pats/Chiefs game?

I'm hoping that one of the wilderbeasts from "Lost" swallows Billicek, Dillon, and Brady.

It might be our only hope.

--Infidel Goat

ENDelt260
11-18-2004, 10:30 AM
Tony Dungy's an idiot.

BIG_DADDY
11-18-2004, 10:51 AM
"I think it's stereotypical in looking at the players, and on the heels of the Kobe Bryant incident I think it's very insensitive. I don't think that they would have had Bill Parcells or Andy Reid or one of the owners involved in that," he added, a reference to the coaches in the game.



What's the matter Dungy, you pissed because all your players are going after white women? If you are then why don't you just come out and say it instead saying something assinine like this. Yea their going to put a commercial together showing Nicollette Sheridan jumping on that old fat ass Tuna, give me a break. This accomplished exactly what they wanted it to do, they got a ton of free publicity for Desperate Housewives.

Rain Man
11-18-2004, 10:55 AM
I'm not sure how Dungy sees that as a race thing. I think it was kind of stupid from an NFL perspective of having a player say he'll be late for a game to have sex, but that has nothing to do with race.

Next week, you can bet that we'll have one male person without breasts sitting on a white sound stage singing, "Are you ready for some football?"

R&GHomer
11-18-2004, 11:02 AM
I wouldn’t say that I was offended, but I was a little taken back by it at the time. After watching it again, I don’t see anything at all wrong with it. These people need to lighten the fugg up. This is just stupid, with all the tawdry commercials and Tv shows these days they chose to pick on this one.

memyselfI
11-18-2004, 11:06 AM
Perhaps some of the fervor from the RR is that this white woman was standing naked in front of black man wearing only a cross...

that certainly is not my problem with the segment. I think it was a perfectly fine scene given HBO or Cinemax or even at 10 pm at night during the actual show...

but not given the time of day and the fact that it was a football game and the NFL had said it was cleaning up its act.

I think Dungy is on to something as far as the stereotype of black player/blonde trophy...certainly I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it because I'm sure those writing the skit were fully aware of the dynamic and USED it. Dungy's Kobe example just being the most recent but OJ/Nicole certainly is the most well known.

BIG_DADDY
11-18-2004, 11:38 AM
Perhaps some of the fervor from the RR is that this white woman was standing naked in front of black man wearing only a cross...

that certainly is not my problem with the segment. I think it was a perfectly fine scene given HBO or Cinemax or even at 10 pm at night during the actual show...

but not given the time of day and the fact that it was a football game and the NFL had said it was cleaning up its act.

I think Dungy is on to something as far as the stereotype of black player/blonde trophy...certainly I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it because I'm sure those writing the skit were fully aware of the dynamic and USED it. Dungy's Kobe example just being the most recent but OJ/Nicole certainly is the most well known.

Yea wouldn't want to acknowledge what everybody already knows. Black athletes love white women, oh the humanity. It's the white women thing you have a problem with isn't Denise? Those bitches get all the good guys and leave women like you all the scraps.......er uh I mean the Iranian Sausages. Bitches.

Rausch
11-18-2004, 11:40 AM
Dungy is a tool...

Brock
11-18-2004, 01:00 PM
It sure is great that as a country we are back to caring about stupid bullshit again.

splatbass
11-18-2004, 05:37 PM
Perhaps some of the fervor from the RR is that this white woman was standing naked in front of black man wearing only a cross...

that certainly is not my problem with the segment. I think it was a perfectly fine scene given HBO or Cinemax or even at 10 pm at night during the actual show...

but not given the time of day and the fact that it was a football game and the NFL had said it was cleaning up its act.




But it's ok for them to show Viagra commercials and beer commercials with women in bikinis? That is what bothers me about this, the hypocrisy. Ther NFL says it isn't appropriate, but they sure think those commercials are ok (since they make money off of them). I think if they are going to act like prudes they should extend that to advertisers that pay for the broadcasts, or stop acting like they care about stuff like this.

Raiderhader
11-18-2004, 05:40 PM
Yea wouldn't want to acknowledge what everybody already knows. Black athletes love white women, oh the humanity. It's the white women thing you have a problem with isn't Denise? Those bitches get all the good guys and leave women like you all the scraps.......er uh I mean the Iranian Sausages. Bitches.

Heh heh heh.

Braincase
11-18-2004, 06:02 PM
Anybody wanna bet on whether FOX, CBS, or ABC start running their halftime shows/opening spiels/game promos past censors to insure they don't offend anybody? No freakin' way.

All this is just abiding by the ol' IT purchasing mantra - it's easier to apologize than to ask permission.

Expect more of the same...

ENDelt260
11-18-2004, 06:32 PM
All this is just abiding by the ol' IT purchasing mantra - it's easier to apologize than to ask permission.

IT? Hell, I adopted that philosophy as a child. Before I knew jack shat about computers.

Raiderhader
11-18-2004, 06:57 PM
Anybody wanna bet on whether FOX, CBS, or ABC start running their halftime shows/opening spiels/game promos past censors to insure they don't offend anybody? No freakin' way.

All this is just abiding by the ol' IT purchasing mantra - it's easier to apologize than to ask permission.

Expect more of the same...



My Dad advocates that philosophy for marriage and sales.