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tk13
11-23-2004, 01:06 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/10250469.htm

Vermeil sets team's whiny tone

JASON WHITLOCK


Grumpy old men were in style just a year ago. Their maturity, wisdom and patience were hailed as critical ingredients that could ignite a professional sports organization to success. Florida Marlins manager Jack McKeon and Chiefs head coach Dick Vermeil were seen as pro sports' new breed.

Now, a year later, grumpy old men look like grumpy old men.

Bill Parcells' Dallas Cowboys are 3-7. So is Joe Gibbs' Washington team. Vermeil's Chiefs entered Monday night's game against the defending champion New England Patriots with a 3-6 record and left Arrowhead Stadium with an identical record to the Cowboys and Washington.

Patriots 27, Chiefs 19.

NFL coaches in their 60s look lost and totally out of place.

Vermeil's Chiefs are the biggest disappointment. Coming off a 13-3 season, the Chiefs were expected to contend for the Super Bowl. Instead, midway through the season they're fighting for respectability. Regardless of the Chiefs' final record, that respectability will elude them if the Chiefs players continue to mimic their whiny, grumpy football coach.

Football teams often mirror their head coaches. Vermeil and his coaching staff have spent much of the season whining about officiating and whining about every piece of misfortune. The Chiefs, perhaps because of the constant whining of the coaching staff, are one of the most penalized teams in the NFL.

Vermeil, his staff and his players whine about every call. Monday night, with the nation watching, the Chiefs complained about every perceived missed pass-interference call. Trent Green threw an interception in the end zone just before halftime. He was trying to squeeze the ball into tight end Tony Gonzalez, who was covered by two defenders. Even before New England safety Rodney Harrison was tackled, Gonzalez and Green hunted down a referee and demanded to know why Harrison wasn't called for holding Gonzalez.

The ref should have asked Green why he ever threw the ball to Gonzalez. T.G. was never open. Not for the slightest second. Green made an error, but he blamed the official for it.

“You saw the play, didn't you?” Vermeil said disgustedly. “I'm not going to say anything about it.”

He added: “It was a low throw.”

That's typical Chiefs behavior. Vermeil can't believe the Chiefs aren't at the top of the AFC West and in playoff contention. It can't be his fault. He's not willing to take responsibility for Kansas City's failure. It shouldn't be a surprise that his players are unwilling to shoulder responsibility.

This all began last off-season. The Chiefs finished last season losing four of their last eight games, including a playoff game at home. With nine players selected to the Pro Bowl, the Chiefs celebrated in Hawaii as if they'd won the Super Bowl. No one took responsibility for last year's failure.

The Chiefs have a Super Bowl hangover… without the Super Bowl.

The offensive players blamed the defensive players. The defensive players blamed Greg Robinson. No one looked in the mirror, including KC's grumpy coach.

You have to wonder whether Vermeil is the right coach to move the Chiefs forward. His message has worn thin. I'm not sure he has the necessary energy or emotion to ignite this football team next season. Coaching in the NFL is for young men with lots and lots of energy. Vermeil might also be too nice for this situation. The Chiefs need a coach to come in and strike fear in the players. The Chiefs are financially committed to some underachieving players for next season. Jerome Woods, Greg Wesley, John Browning, Eric Hicks and William Bartee all received new contracts last offseason.

It's going to be difficult to overhaul KC's roster.

Kansas City's best offensive players are all well-established veterans. Will Shields, Willie Roaf, Trent Green and Priest Holmes are nearing the end of their careers or moving out of their prime years. Brian Waters and Tony Gonzalez are in their prime.

Besides Jared Allen, the Chiefs don't have any young players waiting in the wings. Running back Larry Johnson, the former first-round pick, must be one of the worst first-round picks in the history of the franchise. And that's saying something. For the second week in a row, without an injured Priest Holmes, Johnson didn't take an offensive snap. Derrick Blaylock carried the load for 60 minutes. The Chiefs have accomplished nothing this season and haven't set up anything for next year.

I'm sure Vermeil and his players will be whining about these facts all offseason.

2bikemike
11-23-2004, 01:40 AM
I have to say I agree with Whitlock on this one. I think DV should step down at the end of the year. I fear he has lost this team. I watched the same thing with both Marty and Gunther.

wazu
11-23-2004, 01:45 AM
Brilliant article. Whitlock is back.

booger
11-23-2004, 01:51 AM
DV has said all along that he would only coach the team as long as he was healthy and thought he was leading them in the right direction.

I'm sure he wouldn't want to go out on a note like this, but it will be an interesting next 2 months in KC.

Now if only the Hunt Children could talk daddy into poopcanning carl and co.

booger
11-23-2004, 01:52 AM
I don't really care for whitlock, but i can't argue with a damn thing in this article.

Douche Baggins
11-23-2004, 01:54 AM
The other thing I don't like about Dick is that he doesn't run full-speed practices. It's clear that our defense suffers from it.

tk13
11-23-2004, 01:59 AM
The other thing I don't like about Dick is that he doesn't run full-speed practices. It's clear that our defense suffers from it.
I just don't think he worked the guys as hard this year, gave them too many days off and such, I don't like that. That's the one constant for sure with him, he's always worked guys hard to the point where they've wanted to revolt or file a grievance with the league. I guess guys like Roaf and Priest get banged up and need rest, but I just don't think everybody can rest too much in the preseason and then come back and not miss a beat like Priest or Tony...

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:02 AM
Training camp needed to be survival of the fittest on Defense, they all pretty much equally suck. Just let them beat the shit out of each other and see who wants to play. OOPSSIE POOPSIE FORGOT WE GAVE THE TWO SAFTIES 33 billion dollar contracts

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:02 AM
I hope Tony Pena learned what shitty training can do

2bikemike
11-23-2004, 02:03 AM
I just don't think he worked the guys as hard this year, gave them too many days off and such, I don't like that. That's the one constant for sure with him, he's always worked guys hard to the point where they've wanted to revolt or file a grievance with the league. I guess guys like Roaf and Priest get banged up and need rest, but I just don't think everybody can rest too much in the preseason and then come back and not miss a beat like Priest or Tony...

There is definately a lack of dicipline on this team. Way too many penalties and brain farts. I think its time to start shaking up the line up. If you fug up you sit.

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:05 AM
Oh sweet Chiefsplanet chatroom kicks rear!

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:07 AM
There is definately a lack of dicipline on this team. Way too many penalties and brain farts. I think its time to start shaking up the line up. If you fug up you sit.


There's never been any accountability with the chiefs. Just F up all the time, it doesn't matter on the field or in the front office, you will keep your job. Unless your a mouthy punter

tk13
11-23-2004, 02:08 AM
I hope Tony Pena learned what shitty training can do
He has, Baird has said that next spring training is going to be fundamental boot camp for the Royals.... the Chiefs probably need to do the same thing, especially on defense.

There you go, d'penz, a Royals post to make you happy.

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:09 AM
How many more losses do we need to look at getting johnson from texas

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:10 AM
it's about that time to turn our attention to the royals anyway

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:11 AM
Actually it's my time to start watching ku basketball, and hoping they implode on national TV

Douche Baggins
11-23-2004, 02:12 AM
Demonpenz, you light up my life.

tk13
11-23-2004, 02:21 AM
it's about that time to turn our attention to the royals anyway
89 days until pitchers and catchers report! It's nice how baseball and football seasons kind of run together. The Super Bowl on Feb. 6th or whenever, baseball starts two weeks later... and while you're wading through preseason baseball you have the NCAA tourney to keep you company. Ahhh sports. :)

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:23 AM
89 days until pitchers and catchers report! It's nice how baseball and football seasons kind of run together. The Super Bowl on Feb. 6th or whenever, baseball starts two weeks later... and while you're wading through preseason baseball you have the NCAA tourney to keep you company. Ahhh sports. :)

The cycle continues until you realize you've wasted your life away watching sports. On my deathbed I my last gasp will tell my family to make sure and update my fantasy roster.

KcMizzou
11-23-2004, 02:24 AM
Actually it's my time to start watching ku basketball, and hoping they implode on national TVAmen, brother.

By God, if I don't have something to root for, I'll find someone to root against.

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:24 AM
I think Kwika mitchell can play alittle bit. I don't have the hate that everyone else has for him here. I want to see Fox play more though

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:25 AM
I saw Mitchell make a play where he actually flowed to the ball well and make a tackle. I thought sims was in the backfield more than ususal. I also thought the safteys and corners still had dicks in their mouths.

KcMizzou
11-23-2004, 02:25 AM
I just don't think he worked the guys as hard this year, gave them too many days off and such, I don't like that. That's the one constant for sure with him, he's always worked guys hard to the point where they've wanted to revolt or file a grievance with the league. I guess guys like Roaf and Priest get banged up and need rest, but I just don't think everybody can rest too much in the preseason and then come back and not miss a beat like Priest or Tony... Well, we now have 10 preseason games to prepare for '05.

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:26 AM
What the hell was up with the false starts tonight, your playing at HOME. Oh and kennison, if you don't know the count peak in at the mother grabbin snap

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:27 AM
If Kris Wilson can play half as good as Tony G, i wouldn't mind trading for somebody to help on D

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:28 AM
I don't think fujita has played well this year. There were a couple mistakes by him tonight. One was he didn't get deep enough and he let a WR camp right behind him. We need some playmakers

Demonpenz
11-23-2004, 02:35 AM
My fantasy team officially went to shit as soon as priest got injured

Dick Bull
11-23-2004, 02:49 AM
My fantasy team officially went to shit as soon as priest got injured

me too.

I did pick up blaylock, but we all know how that is going.

KcMizzou
11-23-2004, 02:55 AM
me too.

I did pick up blaylock, but we all know how that is going.I wonder...

Will Priest still do us a favor and retire?

DenverChief
11-23-2004, 03:14 AM
I wonder...

Will Priest still do us a favor and retire?

a favor? :spock:

KcMizzou
11-23-2004, 03:16 AM
a favor? :spock: Some moron posted a thread with that as the title after Blaylock did so well against the Saints.

"Will Priest do us a favor and retire?" Heh...

DenverChief
11-23-2004, 03:22 AM
Some moron posted a thread with that as the title after Blaylock did so well against the Saints.

"Will Priest do us a favor and retire?" Heh...

*whew* thought you had gone off the deep end :)

KcMizzou
11-23-2004, 03:32 AM
*whew* thought you had gone off the deep end :) Hell no... Anyone who wants to ship Priest off after one good game by a back-up HB... *sigh*

Well, I won't insult them any more.. because I can't remember who posted it. But I'd say they were over-reacting just a bit.

cookster50
11-23-2004, 04:28 AM
Yep, I agree with Big JW. I'm tired of the excuses. CP and DV must go, and please, take AS with you!

Otter
11-23-2004, 04:37 AM
I really don't care what the hell this team does for the rest of the season and quiet frankly I'm sick of hearing what Peterson is going to do to fix the situation because he can't follow through.

He's had his chance, now go away.

However, Whitlock had some quotable quotes:

"Running back Larry Johnson, the former first-round pick, must be one of the worst first-round picks in the history of the franchise. And that's saying something".

"The Chiefs have a Super Bowl hangover without the Super Bowl".

I officially don't give a shit about this team anymore. Maybe next season but I've had it for awhile.

the Talking Can
11-23-2004, 05:34 AM
"The Chiefs have a Super Bowl hangover… without the Super Bowl."


holy crap is that true...

MichaelH
11-23-2004, 05:46 AM
"The Chiefs have a Super Bowl hangover… without the Super Bowl."

It must be the water in KC. :)

Tuckdaddy
11-23-2004, 05:55 AM
I hope DV walks and so does Carl. We clearly have no direction and are not getting any better. Why should he stay one more year at his age? Give the team to Al, Gun or my personal choice would be the d coordinator of the Pats.