PDA

View Full Version : Official NFL Mock Draft Summary Thread


jAZ
11-23-2004, 07:47 AM
As you are cruising the net and dreaming of next season, if you come across a mock draft showing the Chiefs picking a player, put the link and the results on this thread.

jAZ
11-23-2004, 07:48 AM
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

12. Kansas City Chiefs: Marlin Jackson, CB, Michigan

Despite having one of the worst defenses in the NFL in 2003 the Chiefs made virtually no changes in personnel on that side of the ball, instead only brining in a new defensive coordinator in Gunther Cunningham. Big mistake. You can have the best jockey in the world but if you're riding a donkey you aren't going to win the Kentucky Derby. Simply put, Kansas City just doesn't have the horses on defense. Marlin Jackson was sensational early in his career but struggled as a junior when he was moved to safety. Now a senior, Jackson is having the type of year everyone knew he was capable of and has established himself firmly behind Antrel Rolle as the #1 rated corner in this draft. In reality the Chiefs can pretty much go anywhere on defense with this pick, from the defensive line to the secondary to even linebacker. A sleeper here though could be an impact wide receiver since Johnnie Morton and Eddie Kennison are both average at best, but if the team doesn't do something to upgrade the defense fans just may begin to mutiny. In fact, the theme of the Kansas City Chief's 2005 offseason should be titled "Defense, Defense, Defense!"

jAZ
11-23-2004, 07:48 AM
http://www.gbnreport.com/2005projection.htm

9 Kansas City Marlin Jackson CB Michigan

40 Kansas City Dan Cody DE Oklahoma

jAZ
11-23-2004, 07:49 AM
http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/mock_draft.htm

12. Kansas City Chiefs LB Ahmad Brooks Virginia*

- The Chiefs will not be able to hide this pick from anyone, as everyone knows that the Chiefs have to address their defense. Brooks is arguably the second best linebacker in the nation and has started to get hot as the season goes on. He’s a versatile ‘backer who has the size and strength to play inside, but the agility to rush the passer. He’s even returned a few punts and played wide receiver on Hail Mary’s for the Cavs.

jAZ
11-23-2004, 07:50 AM
http://www.insidetheeagles.com/2005mockdraft.htm

18 KC Marlin Jackson CB 6'1" 200 Michigan

jAZ
11-23-2004, 07:51 AM
http://heardsfootballreport.com/mockdraft.html

12. KANSAS CITY LANCE MITCHELL ILB OKLAHOMA

Coach
11-23-2004, 07:52 AM
http://heardsfootballreport.com/mockdraft.html

12. KANSAS CITY LANCE MITCHELL ILB OKLAHOMA

Uh, the Johnson kid from Texas is a better option than Mitchell is IMHO. He's a playmaker. But that's just my opinion.

jAZ
11-23-2004, 08:52 AM
Uh, the Johnson kid from Texas is a better option than Mitchell is IMHO. He's a playmaker. But that's just my opinion.
Seems as though that mock agrees, since they had Johnson going 6 picks before we selected.

;)

jAZ
11-23-2004, 08:57 AM
Now a senior, Jackson ... has established himself firmly behind Antrel Rolle as the #1 rated corner in this draft.
Interesting that the guy behind the #1 rated CB is also the #1 rated CB.

If that's the case then the Chiefs might actually have won 2 Super Bowls in our history.

suds79
11-23-2004, 09:18 AM
http://draftnotebook.com/draft_projection.htm

13. Chiefs - WR Braylon Edwards, Michigan.

Of course we'll be picking a lot higher than that.

jAZ
11-27-2004, 09:37 AM
http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2005/mockdraft.shtml

1. San Francisco 49ers - Matt Leinart, QB, USC
2. Miami Dolphins - Aaron Rodgers, QB, Cal
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami
4. Oakland Raiders - Mike Williams, WR, USC
5. San Diego Chargers - Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma
6. Cleveland Browns - Alex Barron, OT, Florida St.
7. Chicago Bears - Mark Clayton, WR, Oklahoma
8. Arizona Cardinals - Cadillac Williams, RB, Auburn
9. Kansas City Chiefs - Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas

jAZ
11-27-2004, 09:39 AM
http://football.about.com/cs/nfldraft/a/bl_mockdraft.htm

1. San Francisco 49ers- Aaron Rogers*, QB California
If the 49ers lock up the top slot, they should take a potential franchise quarterback to build around, but I would be surprised if they didn’t trade out of the pick to avoid paying the salary a quarterback would command from the top slot. If they do move down, they could be targeting an offensive tackle, or even a running back.

2. Miami Dolphins – Matt Leinart*, QB USC
The Dolphins have a second-round pick invested in A.J. Feeley, but with a new regime coming in, look for them to bring in their own guy to groom. Leinart has said he will return for his senior year, but if USC wins a national championship, he would have little left to accomplish at the collegiate level and could very well change his mind. A running back like Cedric Benson, Ronnie Brown or Carnell Williams are possibilities as well.
3. Carolina Panthers – Alex Barron, OT Florida State
This may be a bit high for any of the offensive linemen in this draft, so the Panthers could be looking to move down as well. The addition of a left tackle like Barron would allow Jordan Gross to move back to the right side where he is more effective.

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Carnell Williams, RB Auburn
The Bucs are near the bottom of the league when it comes to running the ball, so a running back makes sense here, especially if they can have their pick of Williams, teammate Ronnie Brown, and Cedric Benson out of Texas. These three prospects rank very closely in overall talent, but in my view, Brown’s skills translate best to the NFL. I wouldn’t be surprised, however, to see any of the three picked first at their position.

5. Tennessee Titans - Derrick Johnson, OLB Texas
The Titans could use someone to fill the hole left by Jevon Kearse at defensive end, but if Johnson is still available at this point, they would be foolish to pass on him. Keith Bullock is a tremendous playmaker on the right side, and Johnson would likely step right into a starting role opposite him, giving the Titans a devastating combination on the outside. Johnson looks to me like one of those special players that come along very rarely, so he may not be around this long.

6. Washington Redskins – Matthias Kiwanuka*, DE Boston College
The Redskins have played very well on the defensive side of the ball, but they are missing a speed rushing defensive end that can consistently get to the quarterback. If Kiwanuka comes out, he would be Washington’s best option. He is very quick off the ball and has amazing agility to go along with natural pass-rushing skills.

7. Dallas Cowboys (from Buffalo) – Antrel Rolle, CB Miami (Fla)
Injuries have exposed a lack of depth in the Cowboys secondary, and Terrence Newman has struggled at times this year. The addition of Rolle would take some of the pressure off Newman and give Dallas a solid pair of young corners to work with. Other areas of concern that could be addressed with this pick include a pass rushing defensive end, a nose tackle to take the pressure off La’Roi Glover, or even an outside linebacker if Johnson should happen to still be on the board.

8. Oakland Raiders – Cedric Benson, RB Texas
The Raiders have a lot of question marks, so there are a lot of directions they could go here. But Benson is a perfect fit for Norv Turner’s power running style of offense and the Raiders could mask some of their deficiencies on offense with his abilities. Auburn’s Ronnie Brown would be a good fit here also.

9. Dallas Cowboys – Erasmus James, DE Wisconsin
Somewhere during the first round, the Cowboys must address their pass rush by either adding a speed-rushing defensive end or picking up a nose tackle that can occupy blockers. James is the type of player that can single-handedly alter a game. He has a great first step combined with power and athleticism that make him a challenge to handle one-on-one.
10. Kansas City Chiefs - Marlin Jackson, CB Michigan
This could be a tough decision between two Michigan products with Braylon Edwards still on the board, but the Chiefs have got to do something to address their defense this time around. Jackson is a very versatile player with great size and athletic ability.

jAZ
11-27-2004, 09:41 AM
http://condraft.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=1145

Consensus Draft Services
Mock Draft 2005
Updated: November 24, 2004
By: Adam Steinebach (#1Lionsfan)

1) Miami Dolphins- Aaron Rodgers QB California 6' 198lbs.
Miami is in dire need of more than one position at this point. Of course, with the loss of Ricky Williams, running back would probably take precedence over Quarterback. However, to this point there are no running backs worthy of the 1st overall selection. Look for The Dolphins to attempt a trade down to acquire a middle 1st round pick and some additional as well. Aaron Rogers is the most accurate passer in the Nation right now, throwing for over 75% for the season. He has sharp vision, and very instinctive decision making abilities. He makes the players around him better, and the Dolphins have been scrambling for a starting caliber Quarterback since Dan Marino retired.


2) San Francisco 49ers- Derrick Johnson LB Texas 6’4” 235lbs.
The Niners are looking to improve their defense. If Julian Peterson is back next year, I still think this will be the player they take. Offensively they have a lot of solid building blocks with players like Tim Rattay, Kevan Barlow, Brandon Lloyd, and Eric Johnson. However, on the defensive side of the ball the have holes on top of holes. They could use a corner, a safety, a defensive tackle, as well as both outside and inside linebackers. They take the best defensive player available. Derrick is definitely that. He has prototypical size and speed, he’s a great tacklers, has sure hands for a LB, and is the kind of player who motivates his crew. Very much in the mold of Derrick Brooks, he is an all-around player who will be successful against any sort of competition.

3) Carolina Panthers- Alex Barron OT Florida State 6’6” 315lbs.
The Panthers fall from grace this year comes as no surprise to many. Their offensive line has teetered even since last year. They were able to manage with a pound-it-out running game and a sub-sufficient passing game, but with the departure of 3 of their 5 starting offensive linemen, they will be looking to replace with more solid talent. Alex has a huge frame with room to actually get bigger. He has good footwork and is very solid against not only the pass, but also plays the run very well. It’d be a surprise to take anything but offensive line here.

4) Oakland Raiders- Mike Williams WR N/A 6’5” 238lbs.
Mike is easily the top talent at receiver in this or any draft for that matter. It simply does not get better than his size, speed, athleticism, and ability. He is going to be an absolute star at the NFL level. Patience is a virtue, but we will see him selected early in 2005. Oakland is now able to add a big play threat to supplement their less talented offense. They will still need to establish a solid run game, and eventually get a future starting QB, but this is a great place to start for any struggling offense.

5) Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Carnell Williams RB Auburn 5’11” 208lbs.
The man they call Cadillac. Tampa has been hurting for a running game since…well…forever. They’ve dabbled with talents like Warrick Dunn, Mike Alstott, and Michael Pittman, but none are really the franchise 1000 yard back that they really need to help set up Coach Gruden’s west coast offense. Caddy is a very fast, very powerful rusher who rarely puts the ball on the ground and has great overall ball-handling skills. He has superb vision and a very nice, explosive, first step. He is easily the best running back in the draft this year and should prove a solid starter for some time. The Bucs still need to add depth and strength along the offensive line, so he may have a slow start. In time, however, he will establish himself as a premiere back in the NFL.

6) New Orleans Saints- Antrel Rolle CB Miami 6’1” 202 lbs.
The New Orleans Saints are a team on the ropes right now. Few teams in the NFL have been non-competitive as many times in the previous ten years as they have. This year, they may need to plan on a new coach, and a lot of new roster moves. With the secondary still very much developing into the teams strongest field, and the rest of the team still rebuilding, I would expect them to take the best player available. At this point you have to assume that that player is Antrel Rolle. Antrel is a very physical defender who is extremely talented both in coverage and against the run. His size and his ability to jam receivers easily at the line of scrimmage make him one of the most feared defenders in the nation. He’s not going to blow your mind with a great forty time, or an outstanding short shuttle, but regardless, he’s the best defensive back in the draft. The Saints simply won’t be able to pass on a talent of this caliber, no matter what position he plays.

7) Arizona Cardinals- Cedric Benson RB Texas 6’2” 212lbs.
The Cardinals are finally starting to establish a pertinent offensive unit. They have their QB, their wide receivers, and their offensive line. The only thing missing from their offensive attack is a young, potent running game. Something that Cedric has the potential to bring. Last time they drafted a running back in the first round, they were burned. Now, with offensive mastermind Dennis Green at the helm, things will be different. Cedric is a little bigger than Caddy, but lacks the outright speed that is revered by so many NFL teams nowadays. He has excellent strength and sheds would-be tacklers with ease. There are two aspects of his game that need badly to be worked with, which is his motivation and his ball-handling skills. Both are things that are coachable, and Denny Green does a great job of doing it.

8) Tennessee Titans- Braylon Edwards WR Michigan 6’2” 210 lbs.
Perhaps a surprise pick here. But Derrick Mason is getting a little older now, and Tyrone Calico has yet to fulfill expectations. Drew Bennett has shown promise, but their receivers are still outright lacking. With a top 10 pick, they are going to want an immediate playmaker. Braylon is one of the most exciting players to watch in all of college football. He has the ability to make the spectacular ones with what appears to be little effort. He has been injury free for the most part, and has a great mixture of size and speed. The one concern from him going into the NFL is his ability to become a consistent force. He has had incidents when he dropped a couple in a row, and his hands are somewhat suspect. He tends to disappear for quarters at a time.

9) Chicago Bears- Rodrique Wright DT Texas 6’5” 315lbs.
A worthwhile addition to a still developing defensive line, Rod Wright is easily the best DT in this year’s class. He has better than ideal size, and is a great pass rusher much like Warren Sapp of the Oakland Raiders. The Bears added Tommy Harris last spring, but they have still got holes along their interior line. The defensive ends are certainly coming into their own, as well as the LB corps. Secondary has a couple of question marks at Free safety and Corner, but another effective pass-rusher will make the sub-par secondary look phenomenal.

10) Dallas Cowboys (Buf)- Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston College 6’8” 260lbs.
The Cowboys are in desperate need of a pass-rushing specialist. The pick in the top ten thanks to last seasons trade with the Buffalo Bills. They will certainly need it. Marcellus Wiley is has been a monumental disappointment this year. They really need to add an effective pass rusher to take the heat off their top notch secondary. Once a team establishes a good pass-rush, coupled with a great secondary, turnovers start to happen by themselves. Dallas is very close to getting to that point. Kiwi will be the final piece of the puzzle. And if you want to talk about puzzle. What about this guy? 6’8” tall with a seven foot wingspan, giving short Quarterbacks fits. He is currently listed at 260lbs, but he has a lot of room to improve his weight. He’s the epitome of a pass-rushing specialist, and if that’s all Dallas gets out of him, they’ll be happy with the results.

11) Washington Redskins- Erasmus James DE Wisconsin 6’4” 260lbs.
The Redskins are currently sporting the #1 defensive unit in the land. That, however, is all going to change this offseason. With Renaldo Wynn tossing around the option of retiring, as well as various inadequacies along the defensive line, Erasmus James would fit well and offer an all-around talent to be reckoned with. He has helped his draft stock easily more than any other player in the NCAA right now, and is still looking like a first rounder. His ability to get past the O-line is uncanny. His carnivorous attitude and impeccable slight of hand makes him a coming attraction to the NFL. He is sure to make a difference at the next level. The one question hanging over his head is whether or not he can stay healthy for 16 games.

12) Kansas City Chiefs- Marlin Jackson CB Michigan 6’1” 199lbs.
DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE! Please DO NOT trade down, DO NOT take a receiver or a running back. Help your bloody defense to evolve. They have some good building blocks; Scott Fujita, Eddie Freeman, Junior Siavii, Ryan Sims, Eric Hicks. These are some good players. But then look at the secondary; Eric Warfield- William Bartee- Greg Wesley- Jerome Woods. Obviously there are some discrepancies here. Marlin will come in and have the ability to rotate from CB to S playing either position equally well. He gives the Chiefs another dimension. Aside from the fact that there has never been a better name in the history of all names, Marlin Jackson has talent too! He is a superb coverage corner, despite common misconception that he can only hit. He has absolutely blazing straight line speed, which will help him out in the combines. He is as solid a tackler as you can possibly ask for from a 200lbs corner. There are a lot of doubters that question Marlin’s ability at the next level. Please believe me when I tell you, this kid has all the talent he needs to be the second CB off the board.

Mr. Laz
11-27-2004, 11:31 AM
12) Kansas City Chiefs- Marlin Jackson CB Michigan 6’1” 199lbs.
DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE! Please DO NOT trade down, DO NOT take a receiver or a running back. Help your bloody defense to evolve
ROFL ROFL even this guy can see the disaster train coming down the track.









:deevee: :deevee:

Mr. Laz
11-27-2004, 11:38 AM
http://www.nflfans.com/draft/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=1&showtopic=19850&fromblock=yes

7. Kansas City Chiefs- Braylon Edwards-WR-Michigan

- Kansas City has to spend at least one high pick on defense, but they also have to address an aging receiving core. Edwards has out played his competition this season and has shown an increased concentration and work ethic. His senior season alone propels him into the top 10.

CanadaKC
11-27-2004, 01:23 PM
Lazarus...that's the new NFLdraftblitz mock ...and I usually highly respect them..but they're getting a little ridiculous this time around.
If they think the Cowboys are honestly going to pass on any offensive player (as they still have a very good D), and we're going to pass on any defensive player...then their credibility automatically goes straight out the window. The Cowboys would probably take Cadillac Benson...while we will definitely nab Johnson, Rolle, or Jackson.

tk13
11-27-2004, 01:34 PM
http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2005/mockdraft.shtml

1. San Francisco 49ers - Matt Leinart, QB, USC
2. Miami Dolphins - Aaron Rodgers, QB, Cal
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami
4. Oakland Raiders - Mike Williams, WR, USC
5. San Diego Chargers - Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma
6. Cleveland Browns - Alex Barron, OT, Florida St.
7. Chicago Bears - Mark Clayton, WR, Oklahoma
8. Arizona Cardinals - Cadillac Williams, RB, Auburn
9. Kansas City Chiefs - Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas
That's my favorite one so far... I just can't imagine DJ dropping that far though. However, I do think that technically we're drafting 7th overall going into this weekend so who knows....

Mr. Laz
11-27-2004, 01:36 PM
Lazarus...that's the new NFLdraftblitz mock ...and I usually highly respect them..but they're getting a little ridiculous this time around.

If they think the Cowboys are honestly going to pass on any offensive player (as they still have a very good D), and we're going to pass on any defensive player...then their credibility automatically goes straight out the window. The Cowboys would probably take Cadillac Benson...while we will definitely nab Johnson, Rolle, or Jackson.

i understand, but how many of us thought we pass on so much defense in the past few drafts as well?

as for Jackson, i believe he's had some legal issues. Im not sure he fits Vermeil's "profile"


we'll see :shrug:

LiL stumppy
11-27-2004, 02:51 PM
We will probably draft a 3rd string RB from some un heard of school because Dick can trust him.

HolmeZz
11-27-2004, 02:58 PM
Lazarus...that's the new NFLdraftblitz mock ...and I usually highly respect them..but they're getting a little ridiculous this time around.
If they think the Cowboys are honestly going to pass on any offensive player (as they still have a very good D), and we're going to pass on any defensive player...then their credibility automatically goes straight out the window. The Cowboys would probably take Cadillac Benson...while we will definitely nab Johnson, Rolle, or Jackson.

- There's no Cadillac Benson. There's Carnell 'Cadillac' Williams and Cedric Benson.
- They Cowboys wouldn't take an running back this year. They just took Julius Jones in the 2nd round last year and they seem to like him a great deal.
- The Cowboys defense isn't that great. Their corners are weak and their DLine could use help. That's why they'll go after Antrel Rolle or Anttaj Hawthorne.
- Where do you want them to draft on offense? Their OLine's good, they have depth at WR already, they have a young TE, a young RB, and a young QB.

jspchief
11-27-2004, 03:11 PM
I'll use this thread to go on the record as saying Marlin Jackson is a bad pick. I don't think he's that good. He benefits from the players around him.

If we can't get Rolle, then it's Johnson or Braylon Edwards for my wish list.

jAZ
11-27-2004, 06:12 PM
http://www.nflfans.com/draft/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=1&showtopic=19850&fromblock=yes

7. Kansas City Chiefs- Braylon Edwards-WR-Michigan

- Kansas City has to spend at least one high pick on defense, but they also have to address an aging receiving core. Edwards has out played his competition this season and has shown an increased concentration and work ethic. His senior season alone propels him into the top 10.
5. Dallas Cowboys- Derrick Johnson-LB-Texas

- Dallas may not have a huge need for a linebacker, but they cannot let the most complete player in the draft pass them by. Johnson will find a spot on the Cowboys starting lineup and will not disappoint. He's forced 8 fumbles this season and averaged 4 interceptions a year his sophomore and junior seasons. Derrick is the most complete linebacker most people have ever seen.

Well Gawd Damn!

I want THAT guy!