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nascher
11-25-2004, 03:32 PM
Carl saves us maybe a high 3rd Round choice

HolmeZz
11-25-2004, 03:56 PM
Beautiful. I'm assuming there's absolutely no way he ends up playing half our offensive snaps, right?

nascher
11-25-2004, 04:46 PM
I Hope so !

The Bad Guy
11-25-2004, 04:58 PM
No, I doubt he'll come close to half the snaps.

He was only playing half the snaps the last few games and if he is missing 6 games because of injury there is no chance.

Good move because he has sucked balls.

tk13
11-25-2004, 05:54 PM
Good move I'd say. I'm not sure how much I like moving up but I'm afraid that by the time April rolls around I'm going to be pushing for Carl to trade up to get D. Johnson or Rolle, if we want to have a chance of doing that it'd be nice to have as many picks as possible....

Phobia
11-25-2004, 05:57 PM
That's fantastic news. Carl is now following my blueprint to success.

Next move: cut an aging veteran this season so we can absorb some of his accelerated bonus under 2004's cap.

jspchief
11-25-2004, 06:04 PM
That's fantastic news. Carl is now following my blueprint to success.

Next move: cut an aging veteran this season so we can absorb some of his accelerated bonus under 2004's cap.

Unfortunately, all the good candidates for that idea got shiny new contracts just last year.

Phobia
11-25-2004, 06:06 PM
Unfortunately, all the good candidates for that idea got shiny new contracts just last year.

So. None of them got unmanageable bonuses. We could cut Hicks, Holliday, and Woods tomorrow without busting the cap.

Skip Towne
11-25-2004, 06:10 PM
So. None of them got unmanageable bonuses. We could cut Hicks, Holliday, and Woods tomorrow without busting the cap.
I'd cut all three of them in that case.

tk13
11-25-2004, 06:13 PM
So. None of them got unmanageable bonuses. We could cut Hicks, Holliday, and Woods tomorrow without busting the cap.
Woods got a 5 million dollar bonus.... that'd be a large chunk of it right there if we do have 6 million in cap room. Actually I'd guess we have less than that after adding guys like Horn and Scanlon to the roster....

Phobia
11-25-2004, 06:38 PM
Scanlon counts roughly $100k to this season's cap. Horn maybe $300k. That's nothing.

But, we have to cut somebody soon, if we're going to. I think the deadline to apply bonuses to the current year's cap is sometime before week 14.

Count Alex's Losses
11-25-2004, 07:02 PM
They can't just do it before June 1st? I don't really follow up on how the cap works.

Phobia
11-25-2004, 07:10 PM
They can't just do it before June 1st? I don't really follow up on how the cap works.

If they cut these players before June 1st, their remaining bonus accelerates and hits entirely in 2005. If they wait until after June 1st, they can delay a portion of the bonus acceleration until 2006.

However, if they cut somebody NOW, which is after June 1st, 2004 (obviously) a portion of the accelerated bonus would count against THIS year's cap and a portion would count against the 2005 cap.

The Bad Guy
11-25-2004, 07:16 PM
The deadline to have stuff count for the 2004 cap happened already.

Phobia
11-25-2004, 07:21 PM
The deadline to have stuff count for the 2004 cap happened already.

No shit? I thought it was with 4 weeks left in the season.

Well, I guess I'll stop talking about that dumb idea, then. It was never really my idea, anyway. I think that idiot, Skip Towne came up with it.

tk13
11-25-2004, 07:28 PM
Well way to go capologist Phobia, thanks to you we're 10 million over the cap now. Great job, now we can raise ticket prices 15% to make up for your "oversight". I think headsnap is already hard at work on www.firephobia.com. Don't worry though, Rufus Dawes will be along to service you shortly.

the Talking Can
11-25-2004, 07:51 PM
well, that's good news....that could be a very high 3rd rounder

go bowe
11-25-2004, 07:59 PM
well, that's good news....that could be a very high 3rd rounderno, we'll win just enough games to screw up getting a high draft pick... :huh: :huh: :huh:

tk13
11-25-2004, 08:02 PM
well, that's good news....that could be a very high 3rd rounder
As of today that would be the 71st overall pick in the draft...

headsnap
11-25-2004, 08:29 PM
Well way to go capologist Phobia, thanks to you we're 10 million over the cap now. Great job, now we can raise ticket prices 15% to make up for your "oversight". I think headsnap is already hard at work on www.firephobia.com. Don't worry though, Rufus Dawes will be along to service you shortly.

:hmmm:

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Tribal Warfare
11-25-2004, 08:45 PM
No more leeway King Carl should be fired period

Miles
11-25-2004, 09:17 PM
I cant remember the details of the deal. Do we owe Philly a lower pick now or non at all?

tk13
11-25-2004, 10:08 PM
I cant remember the details of the deal. Do we owe Philly a lower pick now or non at all?
4th rounder I do believe...

Mr. Laz
11-25-2004, 10:09 PM
I cant remember the details of the deal. Do we owe Philly a lower pick now or non at all?
i'm not sure

we gave them a 4th round pick last year during the draft and a conditional pick next year.


the condition was playing time... now i guess he wont make that



for some reason i think it's a 5th round pick if he doesn't make the condition, but im not sure.



it was tooooooo much regardless