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NewChief
11-30-2004, 06:40 AM
Not that the Packers are Superbowl bound or anything, but they seem to do just fine with their defensive rookies. Ahmad Carroll (20th pick overall) is starting for them in the secondary. He recovered a fumble for a touchdown last night. The fumble was caused by another rookie. They also held the Rams to 17 points. It must be nice to have a front office with an eye for defensive talent.

KCTitus
11-30-2004, 06:43 AM
Isnt this the same front office that presided over the KC defenses of the 90's?

MichaelH
11-30-2004, 06:44 AM
I was thinking the same thing while watching last night's game.
There are many teams doing what the Chiefs apparently cannot. The Panthers defense has lost so many starters on defense, it's hard to keep track. Yet they held Tampa Bay to just 14 points on Sunday. The same team that gutted our starters for 34 points.

MichaelH
11-30-2004, 06:48 AM
Isnt this the same front office that presided over the KC defenses of the 90's?

It is to an extent, I guess. One could argue that if the same talent evaluators exist from the 90's, they have lost their abilities.

NewChief
11-30-2004, 06:51 AM
The thread title should read:
"Packers making do with rookies and our castoffs."

I forgot about Truluck recording a sack last night as well.

the Talking Can
11-30-2004, 07:04 AM
Isnt this the same front office that presided over the KC defenses of the 90's?

Didn't Banarama used to have a hit on the radio?

DaWolf
11-30-2004, 07:13 AM
Kurt Schottenheimer is their DB coach.

Actually wasn't Mike Sherman getting ripped for screwing up with some personnel moves? He was on the hot seat earlier this year before this win streak.

Winning heals all...

KCTitus
11-30-2004, 07:18 AM
One could argue that if the same talent evaluators exist from the 90's, they have lost their abilities.

Explain to me, how that is possible. Did they suddenly forget about how to find defensive talent?

MichaelH
11-30-2004, 07:32 AM
Explain to me, how that is possible. Did they suddenly forget about how to find defensive talent?

I wish I knew the answer. It is pretty clear that while some emphasis went to the defense, only the offense got better since Vermiel took over. Whatever the answer is, the Chiefs need to find balance, plain and simple.

the Talking Can
11-30-2004, 07:32 AM
Explain to me, how that is possible. Did they suddenly forget about how to find defensive talent?

How can I answer that with anything but "Yes."?

oldandslow
11-30-2004, 07:36 AM
With the exception of Marty Schott. I think he made the difference.

He was in the war room - perhaps he had more influence on the King than DV, GC, etc on the picks.

KCTitus
11-30-2004, 07:42 AM
oldandslow gets the gold star for the day...of course it's the HC's that made the difference. The HC tells the front office who he wants and they make sure and sign the guy.

Been that way since year 1 of the 5 year plan.

the Talking Can
11-30-2004, 07:45 AM
oldandslow gets the gold star for the day...of course it's the HC's that made the difference. The HC tells the front office who he wants and they make sure and sign the guy.

Been that way since year 1 of the 5 year plan.

oh, so LJ was DV's choice...now I understand

KCTitus
11-30-2004, 07:46 AM
oh, so LJ was DV's choice...now I understand

Yes and Greg Hill was Marty's...

ROYC75
11-30-2004, 07:47 AM
It is almost a cardinal sin if the Chiefs plays rookies...

Almost....