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jAZ
12-03-2004, 12:30 AM
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041128/REPOSITORY/411280388/1037/NEWS04

Vote affirming segregation opens old racial wounds
Bid to change constitution narrowly lost


By MANUEL ROIG-FRANZIA
The Washington Post


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November 28. 2004 8:00AM


TUSCALOOSA, Ala. - On that long-ago day of Alabama's great shame, then-Gov. George Wallace stood in a schoolhouse door and declared that his state's constitution forbade black students to enroll at the University of Alabama.

He was correct.

If Wallace could be brought back to life to reprise his 1963 moment of infamy outside Foster Auditorium, he would still be correct. Alabama voters made sure of that on Nov. 2, refusing to approve a constitutional amendment that would have erased segregation-era wording requiring separate schools for "white and colored children" and eliminated references to the poll taxes once imposed to disenfranchise blacks.

The vote was so close - a margin of fewer than 1,850 votes out of 1.38 million cast - that an automatic recount will take place tomorrow. But, with few expecting the recount to change the result, the amendment's saga has dragged Alabama into a confrontation with its segregationist past that illuminates the sometimes uneasy race relations of its present.

There are competing theories about the defeat of Amendment 2, the measure that would have taken "colored children" and segregated schools out of Alabama's constitution. One says latent, persistent racism was to blame; another says voters are suspicious of all constitutional amendments; and a third says it was not about race but about taxes.


The amendment had two main parts: the removal of the separate-schools language and the removal of a passage - inserted in the 1950s in an attempt to counter the Brown v. Board of Education ruling against segregated public schools -that said Alabama's constitution does not guarantee a right to a public education.

Leading opponents, such as Alabama Christian Coalition President John Giles, said they did not object to removing the passage about separate schools for "white and colored children." But, employing an argument that was ridiculed by most of the state's newspapers and by legions of legal experts, Giles and others said guaranteeing a right to a public education would have opened a door for "rogue" federal judges to order the state to raise taxes to pay for improvements in its public school system.

(more at link)

patteeu
12-03-2004, 10:01 AM
Leading opponents, such as Alabama Christian Coalition President John Giles, said they did not object to removing the passage about separate schools for "white and colored children." But, employing an argument that was ridiculed by most of the state's newspapers and by legions of legal experts, Giles and others said guaranteeing a right to a public education would have opened a door for "rogue" federal judges to order the state to raise taxes to pay for improvements in its public school system.

Sounds like an extremely reasonable argument to me. That it was ridiculed by the state's left wing press and legions of liberal lawyers doesn't impress me. One need look no further than the Kansas City publc school system to see that federal judges have no qualms about imposing taxes in the name of financing public education. Having language in your state constitution explicitly stating that public education is a right can only make this judicial abuse easier to rationalize.

KCWolfman
12-03-2004, 10:04 AM
Let's attempt to humiliate those in states that didn't vote our way while we deride others for attempting to humiliate those they didn't vote their way.

http://www.cardhouse.com/travel/az/billboards/boardquit.jpg
With all this time away, one would think better material could have been had.

Cochise
12-03-2004, 10:05 AM
I hope the libs keep the "F*** middle America" attitude up for a long time to come. It's very productive for us.

Calcountry
12-03-2004, 11:48 AM
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041128/REPOSITORY/411280388/1037/NEWS04

Vote affirming segregation opens old racial wounds
Bid to change constitution narrowly lost


By MANUEL ROIG-FRANZIA
The Washington Post


-------------------------------------------------------------
November 28. 2004 8:00AM


TUSCALOOSA, Ala. - On that long-ago day of Alabama's great shame, then-Gov. George Wallace stood in a schoolhouse door and declared that his state's constitution forbade black students to enroll at the University of Alabama.

He was correct.

If Wallace could be brought back to life to reprise his 1963 moment of infamy outside Foster Auditorium, he would still be correct. Alabama voters made sure of that on Nov. 2, refusing to approve a constitutional amendment that would have erased segregation-era wording requiring separate schools for "white and colored children" and eliminated references to the poll taxes once imposed to disenfranchise blacks.

The vote was so close - a margin of fewer than 1,850 votes out of 1.38 million cast - that an automatic recount will take place tomorrow. But, with few expecting the recount to change the result, the amendment's saga has dragged Alabama into a confrontation with its segregationist past that illuminates the sometimes uneasy race relations of its present.

There are competing theories about the defeat of Amendment 2, the measure that would have taken "colored children" and segregated schools out of Alabama's constitution. One says latent, persistent racism was to blame; another says voters are suspicious of all constitutional amendments; and a third says it was not about race but about taxes.


The amendment had two main parts: the removal of the separate-schools language and the removal of a passage - inserted in the 1950s in an attempt to counter the Brown v. Board of Education ruling against segregated public schools -that said Alabama's constitution does not guarantee a right to a public education.

Leading opponents, such as Alabama Christian Coalition President John Giles, said they did not object to removing the passage about separate schools for "white and colored children." But, employing an argument that was ridiculed by most of the state's newspapers and by legions of legal experts, Giles and others said guaranteeing a right to a public education would have opened a door for "rogue" federal judges to order the state to raise taxes to pay for improvements in its public school system.

(more at link)
How many Hispanic and African Americans, did Clinton nominate to Secretary of State?

How many "people of color" did Clinton nominate to top Cabinet posts?

Ironic, when HW Bush always said he wouldn't "sign a quota bill".

Could it be, that the Conservative philosophy is the one that best lends itself to becoming successful?

Whether I am rich or poor, I detest the premise that I need the government to enact some program to insure my success.

KCTitus
12-03-2004, 12:21 PM
Whether I am rich or poor, I detest the premise that I need the government to enact some program to insure my success.

Hater.

Bearcat2005
12-03-2004, 12:57 PM
Let's attempt to humiliate those in states that didn't vote our way while we deride others for attempting to humiliate those they didn't vote their way.

http://www.cardhouse.com/travel/az/billboards/boardquit.jpg
With all this time away, one would think better material could have been had.
Good call!

stevieray
12-03-2004, 01:02 PM
Look up which states are the most and least charitable. Then compare those states average income levels.

After that, look up which states have the highest abortion rate.

Calcountry
12-03-2004, 02:53 PM
Hater.
Lover. smmmmmmmmmmmmmmooooch. :p ROFL

jAZ
12-03-2004, 03:50 PM
Look up which states are the most and least charitable. Then compare those states average income levels.

After that, look up which states have the highest abortion rate.
http://www.topalli.com/blue/

Saulbadguy
12-03-2004, 03:52 PM
http://www.topalli.com/blue/
ROFL

http://www.topalli.com/blue/blue/baseball.gif

StcChief
12-06-2004, 08:55 AM
Since there isn't a salary cap in baseball to level the playing field this is not a good stat.

Boozer
12-06-2004, 08:58 AM
Since there isn't a salary cap in baseball to level the playing field this is not a good stat.

Oh yeah?? Well, YOU'RE not a good stat because...er...IN YOUR FACE!!!




Man, you are so burned.

Cochise
12-06-2004, 09:53 AM
jAZ leading the way in stupidity (as usual)

Boozer
12-06-2004, 10:09 AM
jAZ leading the way in stupidity (as usual)

Still pissed that he stole your title?