Putin calls US dictatorial

[Taco John]

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All you "conservatives" can jump off this guy's jock now. Like I've said all along: this man is no friend of the US.






Russia's Putin Calls U.S. Policy 'Dictatorial'

Fri Dec 3,12:03 PM ET

By Douglas Busvine

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) accused the United States on Friday of pursuing a dictatorial foreign policy and said mounting violence could derail progress toward bringing peace and democracy to Iraq (news - web sites).



Putin also criticized the West for setting double-standards on terrorism, pursuing Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Iraq while giving refuge to "terrorists" demanding Chechnya (news - web sites)'s independence from Russia.


The Kremlin leader's tough remarks came on a visit to former Cold War ally India, where he and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh issued a joint call for greater cooperation in stabilizing and rebuilding Iraq.


Unilateralism increased risks that weapons of mass destruction might fall into the hands of terrorists, and would stoke regional conflicts, Putin said in a hard-hitting speech to an invited audience.


"Even if dictatorship is packaged in beautiful pseudo-democratic phraseology, it will not be able to solve systemic problems," Putin said. "It may even make them worse."


Putin did not name the United States, but clearly had the administration of President Bush (news - web sites) in mind when he said policies "based on the barrack-room principles of a unipolar world appear to be extremely dangerous."


Russia was a vocal opponent of the U.S.-led war to oust Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), but has since joined efforts to rebuild Iraq's war-hit infrastructure. Moscow's assent was key to a recent Paris Club deal to write off most of Iraq's foreign debts.


MOUNTING VIOLENCE


Putin said he was worried by mounting violence and loss of life linked to operations by U.S.-led coalition forces in Iraq, and said these may disrupt plans to hold elections now scheduled for Jan. 30, 2005.


Again the Russian leader was not specific, but he appeared to be referring to the U.S. operation to crush die-hard insurgents in the Iraqi city of Falluja.


"This may put a question mark over holding of fair and democratic elections in Iraq early next year," he said.


Putin's speech echoed comments he made earlier to an Indian newspaper in which he said the war had turned Iraq into a breeding ground for terrorists.


"As had been the case with Afghanistan, Iraq turned into a major hotbed of a terrorist threat, a firing ground and incubator for militants," he told the Hindu newspaper.


He rounded on Britain for giving asylum to Akhmed Zakayev and the United States for giving refuge to Ilyas Akhmadov, spokesmen for Chechen separatist leader Aslan Maskhadov.


"Providing safe haven and support to terrorists, their accomplices and sponsors actually serves as a justification and, indeed, an encouragement of their crimes," Putin said.


Both men deny being terrorists. Maskhadov, regarded in the West as a moderate, led Chechnya to brief de facto independence during the 1990s before Putin ordered Russian troops to retake the turbulent North Caucasus province.


Putin, who backed India's bid for a United Nations (news - web sites) Security Council seat, said he had found in India a strong ally against terrorism.


"Terrorists benefit from the conflict of civilizations and religions," he told the hand-picked New Delhi audience. "Let it be known that our multi-confessional and multi-ethnic states will not be broken up."

[WoodDraw]

This coming from the former KGB member who has been cutting back democracy in his country in order to consolidate his own power. Uh, yeah.

[Calcountry]

Why shouldn't he? The Democrats have been doing that for 4 years.

[Rausch]

It should be obvious by now that Putin pillow-talked Bush...

[Cochise]

ZZZ

[Taco John]

ZZZ



Of course, the bigget follower in the herd finds no interest in this story.

[Taco John]

Our world position is being directly challenged by our buddy Pooty Poot, and Cochise can't find it within himself to find the same outrage when a liberal with absolutely zero power voices the same opinion.

Pooty Poot must have a nice jock if Cocheeze is that comfortable napping in it...

[patteeu]

Like I've said all along: this man is no friend of the US.

Haven't you taken just about every side of every issue "all along?"

Our country has been screwing up for a long time (wrt the desireable goal, IMO, of creating an alliance with Russia). The two biggest examples I can think of were taking the wrong side in the Kosovo conflict and failing to equate Chechyan seperatism with global Islamist militarism/terrorism. But having said that, we are where we are and at this point and I have to agree that Putin is not our friend as I'd hoped he'd be. But I don't think that makes Russia our enemy.

[the Talking Can]

here's Bush on the Dictator Putin:

"I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul."

I bet he whispers the same sweet nothings to the Saudi Princes.

[Raiderhader]

Our world position is being directly challenged by our buddy Pooty Poot, and Cochise can't find it within himself to find the same outrage when a liberal with absolutely zero power voices the same opinion.

Pooty Poot must have a nice jock if Cocheeze is that comfortable napping in it...


Or maybe he just cares more about what Americans say and think then some guy from another country?



I've never trusted Putin. His past in the KGB has assured that.

[BCD]

I'll have to say I really don't give a rats ass...

[2bikemike]

Frankly any leader that did not stand with us in Iraq IMHO is not a friend of the US.

It is my belief that all these cork suckers were more than willing to threaten Saddam in any number of resolutions but none were willing to do anymore than threaten. I believe that if every nation that signed on to the resolutions were willing to shoulder the burden of enforcing those resolutions then all this shit would be done over there.

Putin along with the other bastards can take a flying Fug!

[Taco John]

Haven't you taken just about every side of every issue "all along?"


Bullshit. If you're going to make the accusation, at least back it up with something other than allusion.

The fact is, I've been chiming in at the fact that so many people are all over Putin's jock like he's some great friend of the US, when he's really not. He's not with us, so he's against us, right?

[Taco John]

Or maybe he just cares more about what Americans say and think then some guy from another country?





Well, he'd be a moron if that's the case. "Some Guy" from another country happens to be one of the most influential people in the world, as where Jackass American With An Opinion (like you an me) have exactly no influence.

The fact is, this new position that Putin is taking is VERY significant and signals that France has an ally in their cause of finding an alliance to counterbalance the US. It appears that the Bush win is going to have worldwide political consequences. Buckle up. We haven't heard the last of this.

[Raiderhader]

Well, he'd be a moron if that's the case. "Some Guy" from another country happens to be one of the most influential people in the world, as where Jackass American With An Opinion (like you an me) have exactly no influence.

No influence except through our elections.....

We decided, get over it already.

The fact is, this new position that Putin is taking is VERY significant and signals that France has an ally in their cause of finding an alliance to counterbalance the US. It appears that the Bush win is going to have worldwide political consequences. Buckle up. We haven't heard the last of this.

You see, you act like this is some big new development. The Iraq war showed anyone who had there eyes open where the lines were drawn.

Russia is still a mess internally at this point. I would certainly keep my eye on them, but I would not act like all hell is breaking loose. Especially since this is really not a new development.

[patteeu]

Bullshit. If you're going to make the accusation, at least back it up with something other than allusion.

The fact is, I've been chiming in at the fact that so many people are all over Putin's jock like he's some great friend of the US, when he's really not. He's not with us, so he's against us, right?

Instead of overgeneralizing by saying things like "all you 'conservatives'", why don't you name names and back it up. I don't read every post on this message board, but I don't remember too many people being "all over Putin's jock." What I do remember are Bush supporters praising Putin when he says something positive about Bush and anti-Bush people praising Putin when he says something negative about Bush. I'm sure I could have missed it, but could you give me one example of someone being "all over Putin's jock?"

As for my comment about you being on every side of every issue "all along," I admit that it was just as innaccurate as what you said.

[patteeu]

You see, you act like this is some big new development. The Iraq war showed anyone who had there eyes open where the lines were drawn.

Russia is still a mess internally at this point. I would certainly keep my eye on them, but I would not act like all hell is breaking loose. Especially since this is really not a new development.

Exactly. This isn't a new development and I haven't noticed any conservatives around here acting like Russia has become our lock-step, fast friend.

[Logical]

TJ I do not recall the conservatives supporting Putin, I am not saying you are wrong but if a majority of them on this BB are supporting him can you name a few of them?

[KCWolfman]

TJ I do not recall the conservatives supporting Putin, I am not saying you are wrong but if a majority of them on this BB are supporting him can you name a few of them?
They didn't, it is just more drama.

Putin had some theory that Hussein backed bin Laden and after people like TJ were whining that no world leaders backed us, it was pointed out that he was wrong.

Granted Putin is no saint, but TJ is just blowing this out of proportion for the mere sake that he can say his 5,296th prediction has finally come true.

[BCD]

They didn't, it is just more drama.

Putin had some theory that Hussein backed bin Laden and after people like TJ were whining that no world leaders backed us, it was pointed out that he was wrong.

Granted Putin is no saint, but TJ is just blowing this out of proportion for the mere sake that he can say his 5,296th prediction has finally come true.Ah, yes...more blather from the drama queen...

[Loki]

this statement coming from a guy who has dropped most considerations of democracy in his own nation to consolidate his power base.

pot meet kettle.

cute.

:rolleyes:








ps: you gotta love the "EU" flag behind him in the picture...

[Jenson71]

I think he does put his political oppenents in jail...hmm, very democratic of him.

[WilliamTheIrish]

All you "conservatives" can jump off this guy's jock now. Like I've said all along: this man is no friend of the US.

I always thought he'd be a good ally to have against radical Islam. Still feel that way today. But I've never forgotten that he's former KGB and he's helping the Iranians become final solution bomb makers.

I don't feel that equates to 'Being on his jock'.

Putin is pissed because the Ukranian election fiasco that he helped mastermind has blown up in his face.

[Cochise]

Cochise calls Putin wierd-looking.

[MahiMike]

I've never trusted _______. Insert any politician's name here...

[Rausch]

here's Bush on the Dictator Putin:

"I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul."

I bet he whispers the same sweet nothings to the Saudi Princes.

Is she hot?

[Slayer]

I want to see what would happen to Russia, France, Japan, South Korea, etc if we just pulled every single soldier and every last piece of United States Military equipment out of the rest of the world. In fact, let's cut off all foreign aid, too. We will from now on be a nation that stays completely out of foreign affairs except for trade, which will not have extra benefits to any other nation. So we're out of NATO, the United Nations, everything. If someone decides to invade England, we'll just sit back and watch the war... If the United States is attacked by a country, we will destroy the country and make it into another State. Unconditional victory...they want to go to war, we will fight, destroy, and take ALL of their land: no negotiations, no questions asked. Any nation wishing to have special relations with the United States must turn its government over to us, ratify our Constitution, and get a 2/3 vote in both the House and Senate with Presidential approval to join as a number of states based on how large their country is.

[|Zach|]

I want to see what would happen to Russia, France, Japan, South Korea, etc if we just pulled every single soldier and every last piece of United States Military equipment out of the rest of the world. In fact, let's cut off all foreign aid, too. We will from now on be a nation that stays completely out of foreign affairs except for trade, which will not have extra benefits to any other nation. So we're out of NATO, the United Nations, everything. If someone decides to invade England, we'll just sit back and watch the war... If the United States is attacked by a country, we will destroy the country and make it into another State. Unconditional victory...they want to go to war, we will fight, destroy, and take ALL of their land: no negotiations, no questions asked. Any nation wishing to have special relations with the United States must turn its government over to us, ratify our Constitution, and get a 2/3 vote in both the House and Senate with Presidential approval to join as a number of states based on how large their country is.
Shut.

Up.

[alanm]

Here's a cute picture.

[Rausch]

I want to see what would happen to Russia, France, Japan, South Korea, etc if we just pulled every single soldier and every last piece of United States Military equipment out of the rest of the world. In fact, let's cut off all foreign aid, too. We will from now on be a nation that stays completely out of foreign affairs except for trade, which will not have extra benefits to any other nation. So we're out of NATO, the United Nations, everything. If someone decides to invade England, we'll just sit back and watch the war... If the United States is attacked by a country, we will destroy the country and make it into another State. Unconditional victory...they want to go to war, we will fight, destroy, and take ALL of their land: no negotiations, no questions asked. Any nation wishing to have special relations with the United States must turn its government over to us, ratify our Constitution, and get a 2/3 vote in both the House and Senate with Presidential approval to join as a number of states based on how large their country is.

Actually, I like this post...

[alanm]

Actually, I like this post... A little extreme but the kid's coming around. :)

[Slayer]

A little extreme but the kid's coming around. :)

A lot of that was sarcasm, but part of me wants that to happen for two reasons:

1) Imperialism -- My favorite concept :)

2) I'm tired of all these bleeding heart libs, commies, and terrorists from other countries trying to tell us how to run ours...we have enough of them over here, damnit!

[Jenson71]

Ah, yes. Imperialism would do us some real good...

The Might American Empire...

[Slayer]

Ah, yes. Imperialism would do us some real good...

The Might American Empire...

I'm comfortable with "The United States of Earth", but I guess a better name can be decided upon later.

Seriously, though, America needs to imperialize.