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Gaz
12-08-2004, 10:57 AM
I expect this to be a runaway.

xoxo~
Gaz
Prepared for a landslide.

Mr. Kotter
12-08-2004, 11:03 AM
Defense. Any Defense.

Questions? :hmmm:

:cuss:

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

milkman
12-08-2004, 11:03 AM
I think we need a FB.
T-Rich isn't getting any younger, and Omar Easy hasn't shown that he can handle the position.




just kidding.

HC_Chief
12-08-2004, 11:05 AM
NO draft picks used on O this year. The D needs a complete overhaul... it's going to take pretty much everything we've go to get the job done.

Retain what we've got.... add a wideout (or replace Morton). Jerry Porter would be good in this offense.

Mr. Kotter
12-08-2004, 11:06 AM
NO draft picks used on O this year. The D needs a complete overhaul... it's going to take pretty much everything we've go to get the job done.

Retain what we've got.... add a wideout (or replace Morton). Jerry Porter would be good in this offense.


Seeeeeee!!!!

It's UNANIMOUS; quick, delete this damn poll, before CP sees it. :cuss:

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Damn it, Carl! :cuss:

milkman
12-08-2004, 11:10 AM
Seeeeeee!!!!

It's UNANIMOUS; quick, delete this damn poll, before CP sees it. :cuss:

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Damn it, Carl! :cuss:

Clearly, the team needs to focus on defensive needs, but to ignore the offense altogether would be rediculous.

This team needs a quality WR with speed and good hands.

HC's suggestion of Porter is a good one.

Rain Man
12-08-2004, 12:53 PM
Looking at the poll results, I'm impressed at the massive intellect that is present on this board.

And the rest of you too, for agreeing with me.

Mr. Kotter
12-08-2004, 12:56 PM
Clearly, the team needs to focus on defensive needs, but to ignore the offense altogether would be rediculous.

This team needs a quality WR with speed and good hands.

HC's suggestion of Porter is a good one.

I agree with HC? But get a WR in FA, in my view....there we need someone NOW.

Saulbadguy
12-08-2004, 12:56 PM
Depends on where we draft, who is available when we draft, and who we are going to go after in free agency.

If Derrick Johnson is off the board, and Braylon Edwards is on the board, I say draft Braylon.

As far as using "all of our draft picks on defense", I don't see the sense in that. When you get in the late rounds we should be getting BAA. I don't think a 7th round CB is going to see much playing time this year, or even the next.

Gaz
12-08-2004, 12:56 PM
Aw, come on. Isnít anyone going to vote to TE? Woodson shut down Gonzalez on Sunday, so it is clear that Gonzo sucks and we need a new TE.

Is Antonio Gates available?

xoxo~
Gaz
Disappointed at how Gonzalezís shortcomings are glossed over on the Planet.

Cormac
12-08-2004, 12:56 PM
We can't just ignore the offense in the draft this year.....unfortunately! Our youth is on D, our aging players are on O. It's a horrible catch 22 situation.

KCTitus
12-08-2004, 01:00 PM
Aw, come on. Isnít anyone going to vote to TE? Woodson shut down Gonzalez on Sunday, so it is clear that Gonzo sucks and we need a new TE.

Is Antonio Gates available?

xoxo~
Gaz
Disappointed at how Gonzalezís shortcomings are glossed over on the Planet.


Once DV starts qualifying his praise of Tony....


~has learned well today~

Saulbadguy
12-08-2004, 01:01 PM
Aw, come on. Isnít anyone going to vote to TE? Woodson shut down Gonzalez on Sunday, so it is clear that Gonzo sucks and we need a new TE.

Is Antonio Gates available?

xoxo~
Gaz
Disappointed at how Gonzalezís shortcomings are glossed over on the Planet.

Heath Miller, TE, UVA.

KCTitus
12-08-2004, 01:01 PM
I think we need a FB.
T-Rich isn't getting any younger, and Omar Easy hasn't shown that he can handle the position.

just kidding.

You had better be kidding...you have no 'logical football knowledge' otherwise you would know that KC needs a backup for Omar.

nmt1
12-08-2004, 01:02 PM
We can't just ignore the offense in the draft this year.....unfortunately! Our youth is on D, our aging players are on O. It's a horrible catch 22 situation.

You've pretty much summed up my view with this statement. People are fooling themselves if they think drafting only defensive players is going to fix the defense. Look at how many of our draft picks have ended up starting from day one. I'm having a hard time remembering any. Neither the draft or free agency are be all end all solutions to our problems on defense.

Chieficus
12-08-2004, 01:02 PM
Considering that Roaf ain't gettin' any younger and that Wellbourn and Bober are okay, but probably not the long term solution, I'd say OT, and then WR...

Of course, with the injuries to our aforementioned tackles and the oppourtunity for Black and maybe Sampson to display what they have, my opinion could be swayed otherwise...

patteeu
12-08-2004, 01:04 PM
NO draft picks used on O this year. The D needs a complete overhaul... it's going to take pretty much everything we've go to get the job done.

Retain what we've got.... add a wideout (or replace Morton). Jerry Porter would be good in this offense.

The Chiefs should get the players they need wherever they find them (FA or draft), but as a general rule we need immediate help on defense and we need youth on offense. That suggests, IMO, that FA might be a better place to find defensive help and the draft (especially the later rounds) should tend to be more offensive.

If all other things are equal, then take a defender. But when all is said and done, we need to have a draft that is at least balanced (if not weighted a little toward offense).

Mr. Laz
12-08-2004, 01:08 PM
wide receiver is pretty obvious our #1 offensive need

followed by depth at RT and QBotF



the real question is WHEN do you take offense at all?



defense first imo



when can we afford to take offense?

Chieficus
12-08-2004, 01:10 PM
wide receiver is pretty obvious our #1 offensive need

followed by depth at RT and QBotF



the real question is WHEN do you take offense at all?



defense first imo



when can we afford to take offense?

The poll does say Draft or FA...so it doesn't so much have to be a matter of "take"...

Gaz
12-08-2004, 01:12 PM
We should be able to pick up a solid WR in FA. Not a superstar, perhaps, but a solid player to compete with Morton & Kennison for a starting WR spot.

xoxo~
Gaz
Would save the BIG FA money for MLB or CB.

Mr. Laz
12-08-2004, 01:12 PM
The poll does say Draft or FA...so it doesn't so much have to be a matter of "take"...

take/sign


whichever, when do we start investing resources in offense when our defense has so many great needs.

SPchief
12-08-2004, 01:23 PM
Really, what we need is a quality running back in the first round. I mean preist aint getting any younger. :)
















j/k

Iowanian
12-08-2004, 01:23 PM
I see several positions in need of "assessment" if not attention.

LT......Roaf is slipping
#1 WR
RT.......can the existing choice of Welbourne, Bober, Black, Williams, Sampson become solid starters at either Tackle?
QBotF.....Damn Brees for coming out of his shell this year......
FB.........Richardson has been great, but isn't getting any younger, and has had injury problems.....I'd like a solid rookie to learn from him for a year or two.
RB.........Blaylock is gone..........need a #3...alot of FA options here.

philfree
12-08-2004, 02:55 PM
We should be able to pick up a solid WR in FA. Not a superstar, perhaps, but a solid player to compete with Morton & Kennison for a starting WR spot.


I don't why I think it but isn't Issac Bruce gonna be FA this year? He would be fantastic acquisition for this offense.


PhilFree :arrow:

HolmeZz
12-08-2004, 03:08 PM
In FA:

- Sign Ed Hartwell
- Sign a corner
- Sign a young Tackle
- Sign a WR who can compete for a starting spot

Draft:

- Derrick Johnson, LB, round 1
- Bryant McFadden, CB, round 2
- Chris Henry, WR, round 3
- a quarterback, round 4

Spicy McHaggis
12-08-2004, 03:33 PM
I don't why I think it but isn't Issac Bruce gonna be FA this year? He would be fantastic acquisition for this offense.


PhilFree :arrow:

How old is Bruce though? I agree for a short term solution he would be great but I'm not crazy about the fact that our entire offense is a short step from retirement.

HC_Chief
12-08-2004, 03:35 PM
No wonder Bruce is kicking so much ass this year... contract season!! Damn him! I drafted Holt and Bruce gets all the damn receptions and TDs :grr:

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-08-2004, 03:36 PM
I expect this to be a runaway.



...for a Center?




:p

Rausch
12-08-2004, 03:58 PM
We should be able to pick up a solid WR in FA. Not a superstar, perhaps, but a solid player to compete with Morton & Kennison for a starting WR spot.

xoxo~
Gaz
Would save the BIG FA money for MLB or CB.


I think Marvin Harrison would blow our offense wide open, and odds are he does hit the market.

The main reason I'd push for Harrison is because his signing would be a bigger improvement at the position than any other FA could provide. He's a consistent producer, catches EVERYTHING, and keeps double coverages off of guys like Gonzo and Kennison.

You sign MH and our offense is finally COMPLETE.

After that spend every other penny and draft pick on LB and Secondary...

Rausch
12-08-2004, 04:12 PM
Um, nevermind....

Go defense!

InChiefsHell
12-08-2004, 04:22 PM
I think we need a FB.
T-Rich isn't getting any younger, and Omar Easy hasn't shown that he can handle the position.




just kidding.

Hey, mon, don' be dissin' on my mon Omar...mon...

philfree
12-08-2004, 04:29 PM
I think Marvin Harrison would blow our offense wide open, and odds are he does hit the market.


By John Clayton
ESPN.com

The Indianapolis Colts on Wednesday achieved their second contract milestone of the season, reaching agreement on a seven-year, $67 million extension with wide receiver Marvin Harrison.


Marvin Harrison
Wide Receiver
Indianapolis Colts
Profile


2004 SEASON STATISTICS
Rec Yds TD Avg Long YAC
67 870 12 13.0 59 200




Harrison, who was scheduled to enter free agency after this season, is guaranteed $22 million between now and 2006 and received a $6 million signing bonus. He is making $5.56 million this season.


Earlier this year, the Colts locked up quarterback Peyton Manning with a seven-year, $98 million deal that included a $34 million signing bonus.


Harrison, 32, is considered one of the best receivers in the league and is the focal point of the Colts' powerful offense. He draws consistent double coverage and allows Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokley to excel against single coverage.


The structure of Harrison's contract will allow enough flexibility for the Colts to try to find a way to keep running back Edgerrin James. There is a $7 million roster bonus that can be converted into a signing bonus in order to lower Harrison's cap number in 2005 to around only $3.2 million.


There also is a $10 million flexible roster bonus that can be converted into signing bonus to help the salary cap in 2006.


The Harrison deal is considered the best ever given to a wide receiver. Randy Moss had the previous best deal for a player at the position, an eight-year, $75 million contract that included $18 million in guarantees.


The surprising part about Harrison's contract is that he received it at age 32. Though many top receivers have some of their best seasons in their 30s, a lot of teams don't like giving big-money deals to older receivers.


The Colts had no problem doing this because Harrison has been such a valuable part of their offense along with the fact he is one of the best-conditioned athletes on the team.


Negotiations concluded Tuesday night and the deal was sent into the league office Wednesday morning for approval. Once it was approved, it went into the league's salary cap system.


Harrison's agent, Tom Condon, was unavailable for comment.


Condon also negotiated Manning's deal, which was the most given to any quarterback.


Along with James, Stokley will be among the Colts' next targets for re-signing. He's a free agent after this season.


Although the contract technically has $23 million of guarantees, the deal counts only as $22 million because the Colts lowered $1 million of his remaining contract to fit it into this year's cap.

Senior writer John Clayton covers the NFL for ESPN.com


PhilFree :arrow:

Rausch
12-08-2004, 04:31 PM
Nothing like salt in the wound...

philfree
12-08-2004, 04:38 PM
Nothing like salt in the wound...

It really wasn't intended that way. If I'd of noticed the thread I would of posted it instead of the atricle. Does anyone know if Bruce is indeed a FA after this year? He could come in and play any of the WR positions in our O from day one. And play them better then anyone we have on the team. Bruce, Kennison and Morton in a 3 wide would be tough to stop.

PhilFree :arrow:

Rausch
12-08-2004, 04:40 PM
Bruce, Kennison and Morton in a 3 wide would be tough to stop.

PhilFree :arrow:

He's a damned good 1st WR. Not as good as MH, but damned good. I'd love it. But I don't know if he's a FA. I'm not sure what the Lambs cap situation is either...

ArrowheadHawk
12-08-2004, 05:19 PM
can you say _efence thats what we need...but porter would be cool

Logical
12-08-2004, 05:59 PM
LOL at KCTitus, have you soured on Easy?