PDA

View Full Version : Merry Christmas!...Oh, and BTW, you're fired...


mikey23545
12-08-2004, 12:58 PM
Well, I've seen my company piss on a lot of decent people since I've been with them, but I always thought I was immune because I'm so damn hard-working and conscientious....

Oops.

The district supervisor popped in for an unannounced visit today, asked to see me at lunchtime, and informed me that throughout the entire chain of dialysis clinics, my position was being eliminated. When I asked when this decision was made, she told me they had been mulling it over for weeks, and just today made the final call. So, without any notice I was told my position no longer existed, and could I get my belongings together....Oh, she did allow as to how I was one of the finest employees she had ever had work for her.

I think I'll have a beer.

KCTitus
12-08-2004, 01:00 PM
That's cold...a couple of years ago, I got word from my managment that I had to cut my staff in half right around this time. At least I waited until the end of January to tell them.

MichaelH
12-08-2004, 01:01 PM
WOW! Sorry to hear that. That sucks anytime, more so around the holidays. Drink several beers and then piss in her gas tank. :)

chiefs4me
12-08-2004, 01:06 PM
That sucks,,,how do people have the nerve to do something like this 2 weeks before christmas, and no notice,,just leave today. I hope they get lumps of coal from santa.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:06 PM
WOW! Sorry to hear that. That sucks anytime, more so around the holidays. :)

Yeah, this place has a way with timing. A little over two years ago this same bitch fired my wife on her birthday...The day after we closed on our current house...She claimed that my wife (an RN) pointing out several things the clinic was doing which happened to be against Medicare regs proved she was "bad for the morale of the unit"....

milkman
12-08-2004, 01:06 PM
Management sucks.

They could have given you a heads up that they were considering elimination of the position.
But all they care about is the almighty dollar.

People don't mean jack.

When I was laid off from my previous job, I was notified by phone, on my way home, on my last day on the job.

chiefs4me
12-08-2004, 01:07 PM
WOW! Sorry to hear that. That sucks anytime, more so around the holidays. Drink several beers and then piss in her gas tank. :)


piss hell,,,,pour in some sugar:thumb:

Cochise
12-08-2004, 01:08 PM
It sucks, but so often I think suits only care about reducing headcount rather than spending the time to decide who deserves to keep their position and such. Of course if they were selective they would open themselves up to lawsuits regarding their decisions too. But.. still.

Sounds like you are maintaining a good humor about the situation which is good. Best of luck, the market isn't bad anymore from what I hear. I am sure you will make out fine.

chiefs4me
12-08-2004, 01:08 PM
Yeah, this place has a way with timing. A little over two years ago this same bitch fired my wife on her birthday...The day after we closed on our current house...


oh then you owe her,,,,need any ideas just pm me,,,,

ROYC75
12-08-2004, 01:08 PM
Ouch, not a nice gift, you been a bad boy this year ?




Good Luck !

RedNFeisty
12-08-2004, 01:09 PM
Damn, I am sorry man. I just got fired in November, a week before my birthday. I can certainly relate to how you must be feeling right now. I did get offered a job today, we are now just sorting out the salary. Best of luck to you in your search, and in the holiday season.

morphius
12-08-2004, 01:09 PM
It really sucks that the end of the year is also Christmas time, since that is when companies seem to like to make their cuts. It is one of my pet peeves that companies think this is the time for change, and for the most part, most companies don't start hiring until Jan, so that is a double whammy for many people.

Hopefully you can find something soon!

ENDelt260
12-08-2004, 01:10 PM
That's cold...a couple of years ago, I got word from my managment that I had to cut my staff in half right around this time. At least I waited until the end of January to tell them.
I'm not sure I would like that better. If'n I got cut in December, I'd know not to spend a bunch of cash on Christmas. In January, the damage is done. Then I'd be left w/ a CC bill and no paycheck to pay it with.

MichaelH
12-08-2004, 01:10 PM
Sometimes things are blessings in disguise. It may not seem that way now, trust me, I know. I was laid off in May of 2003 three days after my Dad died and one day after I found out my wife was pregnant with our second child. It all works out in the end.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:11 PM
Thanks for the wellwishes everyone...I was always hoping I would never have to go back to selling my body again, but....


Hell, that's why God gave us two kidneys, right?

chiefs4me
12-08-2004, 01:11 PM
Ouch, not a nice gift, you been a bad boy this year ?




Good Luck !


I want that big yellow present under your tree,,,,,,;)
no really,,nice tree

ChiTown
12-08-2004, 01:11 PM
No notification at all? They asked you to leave the same day you were fired? Go see a labor lawyer, and I mean right away. You might be able to get some kind of severance package (assuming they didn't give you anything already).

ptlyon
12-08-2004, 01:12 PM
Sorry to hear that mikey

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:14 PM
No notification at all? They asked you to leave the same day you were fired? Go see a labor lawyer, and I mean right away. You might be able to get some kind of severance package (assuming they didn't give you anything already).


They gave me all my vacation and sick time (which, since I had a heart attack a few months ago, amounts to almost nothing) and a whole week of severance pay....

Oh, and a hearty pat on the back....

KCTitus
12-08-2004, 01:15 PM
Thanks for the wellwishes everyone...I was always hoping I would never have to go back to selling my body again, but....

So you know all about this, huh....

http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=105962

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:16 PM
So you know all about this, huh....

http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=105962



ROFL

chiefs4me
12-08-2004, 01:17 PM
A heart attack also,,,,,,Best wishes to your family,,and Merry Christmas,,,,I hope things REALLY turn for the good for you.

ChiTown
12-08-2004, 01:18 PM
They gave me all my vacation and sick time (which, since I had a heart attack a few months ago, amounts to almost nothing) and a whole week of severance pay....

Oh, and a hearty pat on the back....

Leave, and go contact a labor lawyer right away. The fact that they are whacking you, only months after a heart attack is bad. Are you over 40? Dude, you got a case, especially if your record is spotless and your production is good.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:19 PM
A heart attack also,,,,,,Best wishes to your family,,and Merry Christmas,,,,I hope things REALLY turn for the good for you.

Thanks, though I gotta mention my cardiologist told me that overexposure to commas may have caused my cardiac event in the first place...

go bowe
12-08-2004, 01:19 PM
best wishes, mikey...

there's always tommorrow...

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:19 PM
Leave, and go contact a labor lawyer right away. The fact that they are whacking you, only months after a heart attack is bad. Are you over 40? Dude, you got a case, especially if your record is spotless and your production is good.

Do you think in a right-to-work state it would be worth doing?

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:22 PM
I have always had spotless reviews, as far as that goes, and yes, I am over 40....

ChiTown
12-08-2004, 01:25 PM
Do you think in a right-to-work state it would be worth doing?

Yes.

I worked for one of the largest privately held oil companies in the US for 12 years. I had to hire and fire people all the time. The one thing we never did was casually fire someone over 40, nor did we ever fire anyone within a year of them being seriously ill. Both areas are huge red flags for Labor Lawyers looking for a case. When's the last time you had a performance review, and do you have a copy?

Amnorix
12-08-2004, 01:26 PM
No notification at all? They asked you to leave the same day you were fired? Go see a labor lawyer, and I mean right away. You might be able to get some kind of severance package (assuming they didn't give you anything already).

Very unlikely, assuming it was at-will employment. "They can hire and fire for any reason or no reason, so long as it is not a discriminatory reason." That's the catch-phrase for at-will employment, and it works both ways. An at-will employee need not give 2 weeks notice -- they can just get up and leave their desk and never return whenever they want to. Of course, whether you get a good recommendation from them if you do that is another question.

Ultra Peanut
12-08-2004, 01:28 PM
Oh, she did allow as to how I was one of the finest employees she had ever had work for her.Awesome. That should hold you over while your family becomes homeless and starves to death.

Amnorix
12-08-2004, 01:30 PM
First off, I'm sorry about your losing your job.

Second, right to work states are different, though I don't know much about them.

40 is the magic number for age discrimination claims, so if you might have a claim depending on the circumstances.

ChiTown -- sounds like your company was very conservative in its hiring/firing decisions, at least if you were in an at-will state. Not necessarily a bad thing, fo course, but it doesn't mean anyone over 40 or who was recently sick can sue and win.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:32 PM
Yes.

I worked for one of the largest privately held oil companies in the US for 12 years. I had to hire and fire people all the time. The one thing we never did was casually fire someone over 40, nor did we ever fire anyone within a year of them being seriously ill. Both areas are huge red flags for Labor Lawyers looking for a case. When's the last time you had a performance review, and do you have a copy?


My reviews always take place in late November, and curiously this year it was late and hadn't taken place yet...

So my last one would have been last year's, and I could probably get a copy, but I think Amnorix is on the right track. I don't think there's much to be done about it.

I can't believe this is probably the only time I ever agreed about something with that damn liberal Amnorix... :)

Mr. Kotter
12-08-2004, 01:33 PM
Sorry dude; that blows. :shake:

Hopefully you'll bounce back quickly; sometimes opportunities are masked as setbacks...

If that's not the case, I know a guy named Guido who may be able to "take care" of da biatch for you. :hmmm:

Seriously though; best wishes and good luck. Try to have a good holiday anyway, man.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:33 PM
You know, now that I think about it, between my heart attack, getting fired, and the Chief's season, this has been one helluva year for me....

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:35 PM
Sorry dude; that blows. :shake:

Hopefully you'll bounce back quickly; sometimes opportunities are masked as setbacks...

If that's not the case, I know a guy named Guido who may be able to "take care" of da biatch for you. :hmmm:

Seriously though; best wishes and good luck. Try to have a good holiday anyway, man.

Thanks, SD...I don't plan on letting this get me down...Sure, it's a crummy time of year for it to have happened, and a shitty way for them to do it, but I will overcome!


:thumb:

Oxford
12-08-2004, 01:36 PM
I have always had spotless reviews, as far as that goes, and yes, I am over 40....

Do you have copies of the reviews? If they are kept in your personnel file, get them. Have your former boss write you a letter of recommendation considering what she said about you. Yes, I'd talk to a couple of attorneys about their thoughts. Having said that, a EEOC suit may get you blackballed from other employment in your area. If you think you have been wronged, then I'd take steps to find out why.

Got my first "escorted out of the building @ 33" and then after I closed on my house a couple of years later.

Watch for them trying to fill your position also.

ChiTown
12-08-2004, 01:36 PM
First off, I'm sorry about your losing your job.

Second, right to work states are different, though I don't know much about them.

40 is the magic number for age discrimination claims, so if you might have a claim depending on the circumstances.

ChiTown -- sounds like your company was very conservative in its hiring/firing decisions, at least if you were in an at-will state. Not necessarily a bad thing, fo course, but it doesn't mean anyone over 40 or who was recently sick can sue and win.

No doubt, they were very conservative.

My real point being, that a labor lawyer can really paint a nasty picture of what's going on to his employer. They don't need a lot of ammunition to fire their rounds. Sometimes, the mere fact that a lawyer will contact an employer might get them to negotiate some sort of settlement that Mikey may never have had the opportunity to get had he not pursued legal advice.

Food for thought.....and best of luck to you, Mikey.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:36 PM
Hey, on the bright side, I'm going to get to 3000 posts faster than I thought I would!

Ultra Peanut
12-08-2004, 01:37 PM
You know, now that I think about it, between my heart attack, getting fired, and the Chief's season, this has been one helluva year for me....And hurricanes?

Seriously, dude. That sucks ass.

Sure-Oz
12-08-2004, 01:38 PM
I am sorry to hear that, that is such bullshit that they pondered this for weeks. I guess it's time to collect unemployment until you find a new one? Goodluck!

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:38 PM
Thanks for the advice, one and all!

I may go ahead and least do a little checking into the legal side of things...Couldn't hurt...

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 01:39 PM
And hurricanes?

Seriously, dude. That sucks ass.

Hell, that's right! I forgot about the hurricanes!

Damn, I do deserve one big ol' pity pot....

Bwana
12-08-2004, 01:40 PM
Sorry to hear that bud. Take a few weeks off, enjoy yourself and go get um.

ChiTown
12-08-2004, 01:40 PM
Thanks for the advice, one and all!

I may go ahead and least do a little checking into the legal side of things...Couldn't hurt...

That's the beauty of this board - it's never short on opinions.

Seriously, best of luck in whatever you do.

Chi
~Hates companies that aren't remotely honest to their people

ENDelt260
12-08-2004, 01:46 PM
You know, now that I think about it, between my heart attack, getting fired, and the Chief's season, this has been one helluva year for me....
Don't forget the hurricane...

ENDelt260
12-08-2004, 01:47 PM
And hurricanes?

Seriously, dude. That sucks ass.
Of course, Psicosis beats me.

ENDelt260
12-08-2004, 01:49 PM
Hopefully you'll bounce back quickly; sometimes opportunities are masked as setbacks...

I remember when I found myself unemployed in May. Then in June found myself making $20K more at a new job.

I really gotta sit down and write my old boss a thank you letter.

bogie
12-08-2004, 01:59 PM
Sorry about the news. It's tough to get laid off. I know you don't care, but it's a tough decision when to lay someone off. If you do it before Christmas you're a dick for doing before Christmas. If you do it after Christmas you're a dick because you waited till they spent all of their hard earned money. If you give someone advanced notice that their position may be eliminated, you can pretty much count on that persons job performance and ethics to go out the window. The sad thing is, I'm sure you are a great employee and don't deserve this. Did they offer any severence?

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 02:09 PM
If you give someone advanced notice that their position may be eliminated, you can pretty much count on that persons job performance and ethics to go out the window.

First of all, when I do a job, I do it well no matter the circumstance. It doesn't how much or little I'm being paid, or anything else. It's just a matter of pride.

Secondly, I have always given notice before leaving an employer. Is it too much to ask for the same thing in return?

alpha_omega
12-08-2004, 02:14 PM
piss hell,,,,pour in some sugar:thumb:

...Or a nice 2 part epoxy mixture!!!!!

shakesthecat
12-08-2004, 02:30 PM
Sorry to hear this mikey!

Good luck! :thumb:

Braincase
12-08-2004, 02:31 PM
Mikey, be sure to contact the other folks at the other sites and verify that the position was eliminated there as well. You might find out that they kept the 27 year old hotties, and fired the weak-hearted old farts (I'm a charter member of that club myself).

memyselfI
12-08-2004, 02:32 PM
I'd love to point out that the economy and job situation is supposedly improving....

but I know too many folks like yourself to know better. Myself included. So, good luck to you in finding a job that pays comparably or better. You'll need it. And forget a lawsuit...these days unless you have video or audio of a someone doing something wrong to you then you won't win.

Hopefully this will open more and better doors for you and soon...

stevieray
12-08-2004, 02:38 PM
I'd love to point out that the economy and job situation is supposedly improving....

but I know too many folks like yourself to know better. Myself included. So, good luck to you in finding a job that pays comparably or better. You'll need it. And forget a lawsuit...these days unless you have video or audio of a someone doing something wrong to you then you won't win.

Hopefully this will open more and better doors for you and soon...

They prolly fired you because it was cheaper than paying for you to go the doctor every other month.

ptlyon
12-08-2004, 02:40 PM
They prolly fired you because it was cheaper than paying for you to go the doctor every other month.

how come you changed your name back, Stevie?

stevieray
12-08-2004, 02:42 PM
how come you changed your name back, Stevie?

:hmmm: after we lost avatars, i kinda wanted to go back to the SRV avi...

bogie
12-08-2004, 02:42 PM
First of all, when I do a job, I do it well no matter the circumstance. It doesn't how much or little I'm being paid, or anything else. It's just a matter of pride.

Secondly, I have always given notice before leaving an employer. Is it too much to ask for the same thing in return?

Please don't take offence, it wasn't my intention. Now is not the time for me to discuss the other side of the story. Getting terminated sucks, period. Especially if your job performance doesn't warrent termination. I know you'll bounce back and I'm sorry for the company's terrible timing.

ptlyon
12-08-2004, 02:43 PM
:hmmm:

didn't you change it from stevieray to FDE?

NewChief
12-08-2004, 02:47 PM
Check with your union ;)


Seriously, that sucks mikey. We definitely have our political differences, and I may have called you a psycho from time to time, but getting layed off really sucks.

As others have pointed out, have faith and things will probably work out for the best in the end. Good luck to you.

ptlyon
12-08-2004, 02:47 PM
:hmmm: after we lost avatars, i kinda wanted to go back to the SRV avi...

Oh, I see.

Hope things are going well for you now Bud.

stevieray
12-08-2004, 02:48 PM
Oh, I see.

Hope things are going well for you now Bud.


Thanks man, I can't complain. Life is good.

ptlyon
12-08-2004, 02:50 PM
Thanks man, I can't complain. Life is good.

Good deal!

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 02:56 PM
Hey, this is the thread where you feel sorry for me...No hijacking!

ptlyon
12-08-2004, 02:57 PM
Hey, this is the thread where you feel sorry for me...No hijacking!

We've felt sorry for you. Now it is time to move on to another subject. :D

Good luck Mikey.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 02:58 PM
I'd love to point out that the economy and job situation is supposedly improving....

but I know too many folks like yourself to know better. Myself included. So, good luck to you in finding a job that pays comparably or better. You'll need it. And forget a lawsuit...these days unless you have video or audio of a someone doing something wrong to you then you won't win.

Hopefully this will open more and better doors for you and soon...

Ah, the economy here in Florida is smokin'...This was just one of those things that happens sometimes.

Just a little ol' thing called life. Thanks for the wellwishes. Same back at ya.

Jenson71
12-08-2004, 02:58 PM
Well, now you have an excuse to not spend time and money on Christmas gifts for a bunch of people...

Seriously, good luck... :thumb:

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 02:59 PM
We've felt sorry for you. Now it is time to move on to another subject. :D

Good luck Mikey.

I can't believe my 15 minutes is up already.

ENDelt260
12-08-2004, 02:59 PM
You should burn the building down.

Get your Swingline out first, tho.

R&GHomer
12-08-2004, 03:03 PM
Sorry to hear that. I know all to well how bad that sucks.

ChiTown
12-08-2004, 03:04 PM
You should burn the building down.

Get your Swingline out first, tho.

Dartgod
12-08-2004, 03:06 PM
I did get offered a job today, we are now just sorting out the salary.
Is Clint going to be your boss? Because if he is I don't think that "job" is going to pay much. Money, that is...

Dartgod
12-08-2004, 03:09 PM
I'd love to point out that the economy and job situation is supposedly improving.....
Leave it to Duh-nese to see this as an opportunity to bash the Bush administration. :shake:

Sorry to hear about this mikey. Sounds like you have the right attitude and will bounce right back. :thumb:

Hydrae
12-08-2004, 03:18 PM
Just curious, it sounds like you were in a pretty specialized job in the medical field. Just because this company is phasing out this position, the need should still be there, right? Maybe this would be an opportunity to start a business in this field and offer the services to those same customers. You know there is a number of qualified people available at the moment!

tk13
12-08-2004, 03:54 PM
Well that sucks mikey, best of luck to you getting things back together. Now you can start up that career chasing hurricanes that you've always yearned for... :)

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 04:23 PM
I wonder if the Chief's front office needs any help?.....

memyselfI
12-08-2004, 04:24 PM
I wonder if the Chief's front office needs any help?.....

You performed labotomy reversal on your last job?

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 04:24 PM
And of course, the Star will have to replace Ivan Carter, right?....

:)

tk13
12-08-2004, 04:25 PM
Don't forget the Notre Dame job is wide open.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 04:26 PM
You performed labotomy reversal on your last job?

Yes...When successful, it allows people to figure out butterfly ballots....
:)

Fairplay
12-08-2004, 04:27 PM
Sorry to learn of your unfortunate situation. I hope only good things turn out because of it. Silver linings are out there bud.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 04:27 PM
Don't forget the Notre Dame job is wide open.

Nah, I would have to look for more of an entry level coaching job...Like Missouri, for example...

ENDelt260
12-08-2004, 04:55 PM
Don't forget the Notre Dame job is wide open.
Haha. I'm soooo calling a sports radio station.

"No, man... I'm tellin' you! The new front runner is mikey23545!"

Skip Towne
12-08-2004, 05:00 PM
Nah, I would have to look for more of an entry level coaching job...Like Missouri, for example...
Good one!!

SECTION11
12-08-2004, 05:29 PM
I got laid off 8 days after September 11th.

1) I'll never forget it.
2) It's been one of the best things that could have ever happened to me. Got a better job, for a better boss, for more money.

It's a golden opportunity.

Calcountry
12-08-2004, 05:37 PM
Well, I've seen my company piss on a lot of decent people since I've been with them, but I always thought I was immune because I'm so damn hard-working and conscientious....

Oops.

The district supervisor popped in for an unannounced visit today, asked to see me at lunchtime, and informed me that throughout the entire chain of dialysis clinics, my position was being eliminated. When I asked when this decision was made, she told me they had been mulling it over for weeks, and just today made the final call. So, without any notice I was told my position no longer existed, and could I get my belongings together....Oh, she did allow as to how I was one of the finest employees she had ever had work for her.

I think I'll have a beer.
Do you want me to beat her up? :p

Dartgod
12-08-2004, 06:33 PM
Yes...When successful, it allows people to figure out butterfly ballots....
:)
Ziiiiing!

Logical
12-08-2004, 06:49 PM
mikey,

I know you do not like me, but I still want to express my sadness at hearing of your news. Going to a dialysis clinic every two weeks for my checkups (I do home peritoneal dialysis) I know what great and caring people working at these facilities.

I hope you find a new clinic quickly, best of wishes.

Vlad.

2bikemike
12-08-2004, 06:54 PM
Wow that sucks. Hope thing work out for the better!

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 06:57 PM
mikey,

I know you do not like me, but I still want to express my sadness at hearing of your news. Going to a dialysis clinic every two weeks for my checkups (I do home peritoneal dialysis) I know what great and caring people working at these facilities.

I hope you find a new clinic quickly, best of wishes.

Vlad.

Well, I am a little too harsh sometimes...I dislike your takes on the Chiefs, not you...

Thanks.

Frankie
12-08-2004, 08:19 PM
Man that really sucks. Hope you'll find a better job soon and flaunt it in her face.

Nzoner
12-08-2004, 09:15 PM
Just curious, it sounds like you were in a pretty specialized job in the medical field. Just because this company is phasing out this position, the need should still be there, right? Maybe this would be an opportunity to start a business in this field and offer the services to those same customers. You know there is a number of qualified people available at the moment!

I agree.

Don't know your complete situation Mikey but if there's anyway to take your specialty and become a thorn in their side,go for it.

Personally,I did this 14 years ago,and created competition for a company that all but forced me to quit.Believe me,it is a great feeling.

Keep your head up and good luck to you and yours.

mikey23545
12-08-2004, 09:32 PM
Well guys, I once again want to thank everyone for their kind thoughts and wishes. I will plow right through this speed bump, believe me.

And now, even though it's only 10:30 here in the east, I think I might hit the sack. It's been a long day terminated by a bunch of beer.

See ya tomorrow....I should have time to log a post or two... :)

Inspector
12-08-2004, 09:34 PM
I'm losing a bunch of my people on Dec 17th. Second round of layoffs this year.

We booted a bunch last year about this time.

Yep, seems like companies use December as a time to eliminate jobs. That sucks.

Good luck man. Hope something better comes along.

Michael Michigan
12-09-2004, 01:04 AM
mikey,

I know you do not like me, but I still want to express my sadness at hearing of your news. Going to a dialysis clinic every two weeks for my checkups (I do home peritoneal dialysis) I know what great and caring people working at these facilities.

I hope you find a new clinic quickly, best of wishes.

Vlad.


None of us like you. Stop looking for sympathy on Mikey's thread.

;)

Rausch
12-09-2004, 01:55 AM
None of us like you. Stop looking for sympathy on Mikey's thread.

;)

If not for him, who will compete with me for d!ckhead contrarian on this BB?

Frankie
12-09-2004, 08:34 AM
If not for him, who will compete with me for d!ckhead contrarian on this BB?

Ahem,.... (Cough), (Cough)...!
;)

Frankie
12-09-2004, 08:38 AM
And now, even though it's only 10:30 here in the east, I think I might hit the sack. It's been a long day terminated by a bunch of beer.


Don't forget the pit stop on your race to the bed.

Dartgod
12-09-2004, 09:18 AM
I agree.

Don't know your complete situation Mikey but if there's anyway to take your specialty and become a thorn in their side,go for it.

Personally,I did this 14 years ago,and created competition for a company that all but forced me to quit.Believe me,it is a great feeling.

Keep your head up and good luck to you and yours.
I would imagine starting your own dialysis clinic would be next to impossible. The cost of equipment alone would be prohibitive.