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Saulbadguy
12-12-2004, 07:47 PM
:ksu: is 6-0
:KU: is 6-0
The Shuckers are 5-0

Pretty cool. :ksu: has a very good chance of ending up undefeated in non-conference play.

DJay23
12-12-2004, 07:56 PM
:ksu: is 6-0
:KU: is 6-0
The Shuckers are 5-0

Pretty cool. :ksu: has a very good chance of ending up undefeated in non-conference play.
Luckily KSU basketball has taken a page from KSU football in the scheduling department. How's the RPI?

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-12-2004, 07:59 PM
How's ESU doing...? Washburn? Cloud County Community College?

Saulbadguy
12-12-2004, 08:01 PM
Luckily KSU basketball has taken a page from KSU football in the scheduling department. How's the RPI?
44th in RPI, 66th in Sagarin Ratings. On the bubble, baby!

Saulbadguy
12-12-2004, 08:01 PM
How's ESU doing...? Washburn? Cloud County Community College?
Division 1..:)

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-12-2004, 08:04 PM
Division 1..:)
yea...I know. Just playin.'


How is ESU doing though? Do you know?

DJay23
12-12-2004, 08:05 PM
44th in RPI, 66th in Sagarin Ratings. On the bubble, baby!
Out of curiosity, who have those wins come against? That seems like a pretty high RPI considering I don't recall any impressive wins coming from the Little Apple.

Saulbadguy
12-12-2004, 08:06 PM
yea...I know. Just playin.'


How is ESU doing though? Do you know?
ESU is ranked 19th in the Nation, and are 7-0. Washburn is 8-1, and ranked 9th in the Nation. Pitt State is undefeated as well, but unranked.

So I guess the Bods have the State of Kansas only loss throughout Division 1 and Division 2. Don't know about JUCO.

WilliamTheIrish
12-12-2004, 08:07 PM
44th in RPI, 66th in Sagarin Ratings. On the bubble, baby!


First non con road win in 2 years.

God, I hope Woolly can get us an upper division finish.

Saulbadguy
12-12-2004, 08:08 PM
Out of curiosity, who have those wins come against? That seems like a pretty high RPI considering I don't recall any impressive wins coming from the Little Apple.

North Dakota State University
Denver
Washington State
Arkansas Pine-Bluff
Oakland
@Wyoming

Pretty high RPI all things considered, but its still early in the season, so it RPI and all that really don't matter.

Saulbadguy
12-12-2004, 08:08 PM
First non con road win in 2 years.

God, I hope Woolly can get us an upper division finish.
Did you hear about the finish? I guess Fred Peete fired 8 points off in the last 40 seconds to win us the game.

WilliamTheIrish
12-12-2004, 08:13 PM
Did you hear about the finish? I guess Fred Peete fired 8 points off in the last 40 seconds to win us the game.

Listened to it right here at work last night.


I missed the last 3 minutes though. That's when all the action took place.

Place was busy last night.

DJay23
12-12-2004, 08:17 PM
North Dakota State University
Denver
Washington State
Arkansas Pine-Bluff
Oakland
@Wyoming

Pretty high RPI all things considered, but its still early in the season, so it RPI and all that really don't matter.
Right, it's early yet, but I actually think wins against patsies are no better for you with the tournament selection comittee than losses against quality opponents.

I don't know, it's anybody's guess how the conference schedule will shake out, but here's how I see it:

Okie State
KU
Texas
OU
Iowa State
Tech
Nebraska
Mizzou
K-State
Colorado
A&M
Baylor

Just like in football, the power of the Big XII is in the south. Iowa State looks like a strong team right now, maybe even better than OU.

Saulbadguy
12-12-2004, 08:57 PM
Right, it's early yet, but I actually think wins against patsies are no better for you with the tournament selection comittee than losses against quality opponents.

I don't know, it's anybody's guess how the conference schedule will shake out, but here's how I see it:

Okie State
KU
Texas
OU
Iowa State
Tech
Nebraska
Mizzou
K-State
Colorado
A&M
Baylor

Just like in football, the power of the Big XII is in the south. Iowa State looks like a strong team right now, maybe even better than OU.
I, and many other fans, are just stoked about our record and some semlance of hope. What really irks me is just about all of our wins have been come from behind victories. We won't come from behind like we do when we start facing good teams, so the time is NOW to start improving.

IMO here is how the Big XII pans out:

KU
OSU
Iowa State
OU
Texas
KSU
Texas Tech
Nebraska
Colorado
Mizzou
A&M
Baylor

I think the middle of the pack will be a Clusterfvck though...

ChiefsFire
12-12-2004, 09:46 PM
ROCKKKKKKKKKKKKK CHALKKKKKKKKK

mcan
12-12-2004, 11:42 PM
In the NCAA, those cinderella teams happen every year... I would absolutely LOVE to see KSU go to the tourney and make a splash... Go Cats!

Andoverer
12-13-2004, 05:21 AM
Wichita State beat the Big East's Providence on their home court 90-86. I'm damn proud of that.
I bet they didn't see THAT coming

Lzen
12-13-2004, 07:57 AM
KSU is 43rd in the RPI. Their strength of schedule is ranked 208, though. But hey, I'm not gonna knock on that. When you're a struggling program trying to rebuild (heh, Woolridge has been doing that for 3 or 4 years now) you need to schedule some patsies to get your confidence up.

Oh, and that game against North Dakota St. doesn't count according to the RPI. They only count Div. I games.

Here are KSU's opponents on the season and their RPI rankings.
Denver RPI 99
Washington St. RPI 166
Arkansas PB RPI 256
Oakland RPI 150
Wyoming RPI 107

ROYC75
12-13-2004, 08:02 AM
North Dakota State University
Denver
Washington State
Arkansas Pine-Bluff
Oakland
@Wyoming

Pretty high RPI all things considered, but its still early in the season, so it RPI and all that really don't matter.


What's this ? No Jingo Tech or Hillsdale U ? :rolleyes:

KSU has a basketball team ? :hmmm:

Keep climbing the trees Kittens, maybe someday you can soar with the Hawks . :thumb:

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 08:58 AM
KSU is 43rd in the RPI. Their strength of schedule is ranked 208, though. But hey, I'm not gonna knock on that. When you're a struggling program trying to rebuild (heh, Woolridge has been doing that for 3 or 4 years now) you need to schedule some patsies to get your confidence up.

Oh, and that game against North Dakota St. doesn't count according to the RPI. They only count Div. I games.

Here are KSU's opponents on the season and their RPI rankings.
Denver RPI 99
Washington St. RPI 166
Arkansas PB RPI 256
Oakland RPI 150
Wyoming RPI 107
NDSU is a Division 1 team...this was their first year. Its an error in their programming...but no complaints here. They'd likely drop our RPI..ROFL

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 08:59 AM
What's this ? No Jingo Tech or Hillsdale U ? :rolleyes:

KSU has a basketball team ? :hmmm:

Keep climbing the trees Kittens, maybe someday you can soar with the Hawks . :thumb:
Thats what we are doing, climbing the trees. Gotta get the W's no matter what, and start filling up the stadium. Noone expects them to win a National Title this year, so obviously KU and KSU has different expectations. Besides, how does KU stand a chance at winning it all without Rich Scanlon at PG?

Lzen
12-13-2004, 09:24 AM
Besides, how does KU stand a chance at winning it all without Rich Scanlon at PG?

ROFL

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-13-2004, 09:40 AM
ESU is ranked 19th in the Nation, and are 7-0. Washburn is 8-1, and ranked 9th in the Nation. Pitt State is undefeated as well, but unranked.

So I guess the Bods have the State of Kansas only loss throughout Division 1 and Division 2. Don't know about JUCO.
nnnniiiiiccccccceeeee..........

Washburn's loss was to Kansas wasn't it? That cancels it out then...

bobbything
12-13-2004, 09:45 AM
Washburn's loss was to Kansas wasn't it? That cancels it out then...
That was an exhibition game.

ROYC75
12-13-2004, 09:53 AM
Thats what we are doing, climbing the trees. Gotta get the W's no matter what, and start filling up the stadium. Noone expects them to win a National Title this year, so obviously KU and KSU has different expectations. Besides, how does KU stand a chance at winning it all without Rich Scanlon at PG?

Oh wow, I was starting to believe a little bit of your post until you posted about Scanlon, how can I believe you now ? :rolleyes:

KU has there work cut out for them to win it all, they have the talent, can they stay focused and play together as a team in the end ?

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 09:53 AM
nnnniiiiiccccccceeeee..........

Washburn's loss was to Kansas wasn't it? That cancels it out then...
Washburn lost to Rockhurst College, IIRC. In other news, the Lady Blues and Lady Hornets are both vying for the #1 spot in the Nation.

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 09:54 AM
Oh wow, I was starting to believe a little bit of your post until you posted about Scanlon, how can I believe you now ? :rolleyes:

KU has there work cut out for them to win it all, they have the talent, can they stay focused and play together as a team in the end ?
I countered your dumb post with my dumb post..cancels each other out.

ROYC75
12-13-2004, 09:58 AM
I countered your dumb post with my dumb post..cancels each other out.


Really, my post was more dead on than yours. Kitty State has had some weak teams and played weak teams, But progress is being made, I long for the days when KU had a rival in the state playing basketball.

Keep climbing the tree little kitty ! :thumb:

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 10:06 AM
Really, my post was more dead on than yours. Kitty State has had some weak teams and played weak teams, But progress is being made, I long for the days when KU had a rival in the state playing basketball.

Keep climbing the tree little kitty ! :thumb:
You mean you DON'T think Scanlon can play the point?

ROYC75
12-13-2004, 10:14 AM
You mean you DON'T think Scanlon can play the point?


OK, how dumb do you want to be today ?

WarCry!
12-13-2004, 10:17 AM
Wichita State beat the Big East's Providence on their home court 90-86. I'm damn proud of that.
I bet they didn't see THAT coming


Wichita State is a better team than KSU and has a higher RPI right now - 36th I think. Also, NO way does KSU get to the tourney - UNLESS they somehow manage to win the Big 12 tourney - which ain't gonna happen. WSU on the other hand, I'm calling it right now, WILL make the dance and will win at least one game once they get there. THey are going to have a VERY GOOD year. So far, the whole MVC has had a great season - Creighton, NI, SIU and WSU all have a chance to make the tourney - which will it be???

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 10:22 AM
Wichita State is a better team than KSU and has a higher RPI right now - 36th I think. Also, NO way does KSU get to the tourney - UNLESS they somehow manage to win the Big 12 tourney - which ain't gonna happen. WSU on the other hand, I'm calling it right now, WILL make the dance and will win at least one game once they get there. THey are going to have a VERY GOOD year. So far, the whole MVC has had a great season - Creighton, NI, SIU and WSU all have a chance to make the tourney - which will it be???
Another reason I dislike Shuckers...^^^

WSU fans always say they have a better team than KSU. Too bad they can't prove that when it comes to game time. Scoreboard, biatch.

All the Shucker fans said they would make the tourney last year too...whoops, yeah, you made the NIT and lost. Good job.

Finally, I have to hear how good the MVC is every year. Whens the last time an MVC team made the Final four? Face it, the MVC is the farm conference for the Big XII. We might trade you SIU for Baylor one day, but until then you are just a bunch of scrubs.

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 10:23 AM
OK, how dumb do you want to be today ?
Just messing with you Roy. Don't take it personally. ;)


I'm looking forward to the Cats-Hawks game at Bramlage...hopefully you will eat your words! :)

Andoverer
12-13-2004, 10:36 AM
Another reason I dislike Shuckers...^^^

WSU fans always say they have a better team than KSU. Too bad they can't prove that when it comes to game time. Scoreboard, biatch.

All the Shucker fans said they would make the tourney last year too...whoops, yeah, you made the NIT and lost. Good job.

Finally, I have to hear how good the MVC is every year. Whens the last time an MVC team made the Final four? Face it, the MVC is the farm conference for the Big XII. We might trade you SIU for Baylor one day, but until then you are just a bunch of scrubs.


WSU is kicking butt right now. KSU sucks! KU is over rated!

Wow that felt good...it's been a long time since all three Kansas schools could throw basketball smack at each other! :thumb:

jAZ
12-13-2004, 10:37 AM
Washington State

Beating a Dick Bennett team is always a reasonably high quality win. They always outplay their talent level and play ugly but tough defense.

ROYC75
12-13-2004, 10:47 AM
WSU is kicking butt right now. KSU sucks! KU is over rated!

Wow that felt good...it's been a long time since all three Kansas schools could throw basketball smack at each other! :thumb:

Shockers ? They haven't had a quality team since the days of Drieling,Livingston,Carr and Sherrod, what was it, 1981 or 82 ? If Drieling would have played to his potential, they could have been Final Four that year.

Don't get me wrong, they have had good teams, but that one was a talented group.

Braincase
12-13-2004, 11:02 AM
Shockers ? They haven't had a quality team since the days of Drieling,Livingston,Carr and Sherrod, what was it, 1981 or 82 ? If Drieling would have played to his potential, they could have been Final Four that year.

Don't get me wrong, they have had good teams, but that one was a talented group.

How dare you forget Karl Papke!

Andoverer
12-13-2004, 11:05 AM
Shockers ? They haven't had a quality team since the days of Drieling,Livingston,Carr and Sherrod, what was it, 1981 or 82 ? If Drieling would have played to his potential, they could have been Final Four that year.

Don't get me wrong, they have had good teams, but that one was a talented group.

Actually they were a decent team during the mid and late eighties too.
Xavier McDaniel was their best player during that time period.
Mark Turgeon may have finally got them turned around.

The eighties were a fun time to be a college basketball fan in Kansas.
WSU, KSU and KU were all near the same level of competitiveness and one year they all three were in the NCAA tournament.
Oh yes, I remember now. Wichita State beat KU.

ROYC75
12-13-2004, 11:10 AM
Actually they were a decent team during the mid and late eighties too.
Xavier McDaniel was their best player during that time period.
Mark Turgeon may have finally got them turned around.

The eighties were a fun time to be a college basketball fan in Kansas.
WSU, KSU and KU were all near the same level of competitiveness and one year they all three were in the NCAA tournament.
Oh yes, I remember now. Wichita State beat KU.

I know, that sucked, A Darnell Valentine team fell ... What a SHOCKER that was.

Xman was good, too bad he came along after the deep tourney run Livingston and Carr made.

Turgeon is going to be a very good coach some day.

Braincase
12-13-2004, 11:11 AM
Actually they were a decent team during the mid and late eighties too.
Xavier McDaniel was their best player during that time period.
Mark Turgeon may have finally got them turned around.

The eighties were a fun time to be a college basketball fan in Kansas.
WSU, KSU and KU were all near the same level of competitiveness and one year they all three were in the NCAA tournament.
Oh yes, I remember now. Wichita State beat KU.

X arrived Fall of '81. WSU beat KU @ The Battle of New Orleans in Spring '80 IIRC. The only other time I recall the Shocks beating KU was in '86 and Manning was hurt that game.

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 11:18 AM
Oh, im so stoked about being 6-0..just had to post this:

CASPER, Wyo. - Reggie Miller. Tracy McGrady. Fred Peete?

Peete stole an inbound pass, then scored eight points in the last 41 seconds, including a spinning layup with one second left to lift Kansas State to a 64-61 come-from-behind victory over Wyoming Saturday night in the Wyoming Shootout.

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 12:06 PM
ROOKIES OF THE WEEK
Fred Peete, Kansas State, So., G, 6-4, 200, Memphis, Tenn./NE Oklahoma A&M JC Peete had 16.5 points per game on 59.1 percent shooting in KSU's two come-from-behind victories. The sophomore guard's top effort was a 24-point outing on 10-for-13 shooting in a 64-61 win at Wyoming. He scored 12 points in the last four minutes, including the Wildcats' last eight points. He had a 3-pointer to tie the game with 25 second remaining, followed by another trey with six seconds left to clinch the win. Peete also averaged 4.0 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 1.5 steals in two games.

ENDelt260
12-13-2004, 12:07 PM
UMR beat up on some bible college.

ROYC75
12-13-2004, 12:09 PM
UMR beat up on some bible college.


Damn bullies !

Mr. Kotter
12-13-2004, 12:10 PM
I thought there were even two years back in the 80s when all three teams made the Sweet 16....

Saulbadguy
12-13-2004, 12:13 PM
I thought there were even two years back in the 80s when all three teams made the Sweet 16....
1981
WSU and KSU made the Elite Eight
KU made the Sweet Sixteen (lost to WSU)

Saulbadguy
12-14-2004, 05:44 PM
Ok, I just did some more checking and

The Entire State of Kansas, throughout Mens Division 1 AND Division 2 Basketball is...brace yourselves..

39-1

This includes Kansas (2), Kansas State, Wichita State (received AP Top 25 votes), Washburn (7), Emporia State (13), and Pittsburgh State (23).

Womens basketball isn't doing too badly either. Washburn and Emporia State are ranked #1 and #2 in the nation, respectively. Kansas State is ranked #22.

tk13
12-14-2004, 05:58 PM
Ok, I just did some more checking and

The Entire State of Kansas, throughout Mens Division 1 AND Division 2 Basketball is...brace yourselves..

39-1

This includes Kansas (2), Kansas State, Wichita State (received AP Top 25 votes), Washburn (7), Emporia State (13), and Pittsburgh State (23).

Womens basketball isn't doing too badly either. Washburn and Emporia State are ranked #1 and #2 in the nation, respectively. Kansas State is ranked #22.
What about Fort Hays State?

Saulbadguy
12-14-2004, 06:04 PM
What about Fort Hays State?
Well shucks. I forgot about them. I forget them, since they are not in the MIAA yet. They are 7-2.

So..I correct myself, 46-3.

Saulbadguy
12-15-2004, 05:58 AM
Well shucks. I forgot about them. I forget them, since they are not in the MIAA yet. They are 7-2.

So..I correct myself, 46-3.
They beat Rockhurt college by 30 some points last night, and Rockhurst beat Washburn by 1 when WU was ranked #3rd in the country. FHSU might be getting in to the rankings anytime soon...

So, the state of Kansas is 47-3. That is one less loss than MU.

Skip Towne
12-15-2004, 06:45 AM
This thread is a waste of electrons. All you pretenders know there is only one real basketball team in Kansas.

Bearcat
12-15-2004, 07:02 AM
So, the state of Kansas is 47-3. That is one less loss than MU.

ROFL

Saulbadguy
12-15-2004, 07:04 AM
This thread is a waste of electrons. All you pretenders know there is only one real basketball team in Kansas.
I'm sorry you can't take joy in knowing that Kansas is a great basketball state. Don't try to either, Arkansasan.

Skip Towne
12-15-2004, 07:22 AM
I'm sorry you can't take joy in knowing that Kansas is a great basketball state. Don't try to either, Arkansasan.
Sorry, I call 'em like I see 'em. Coming from behind to nip second rate schools does not make a team good. Prove it then talk.

Saulbadguy
12-15-2004, 07:28 AM
Sorry, I call 'em like I see 'em. Coming from behind to nip second rate schools does not make a team good. Prove it then talk.
We're trying, we're trying. Its still improvement. Last years Wildcat team would have peed all over their legs when getting down like this years team has. I'm excited. Besides, this thread isn't about Kansas State. Its about the "Entire state of Kansas", DII included.

Skip Towne
12-15-2004, 07:41 AM
We're trying, we're trying. Its still improvement. Last years Wildcat team would have peed all over their legs when getting down like this years team has. I'm excited. Besides, this thread isn't about Kansas State. Its about the "Entire state of Kansas", DII included.
You'll end up sittin' in the corner crying like you always do. Remember us having to endure all that Heisman crap before Sprawls shat himself?

Saulbadguy
12-15-2004, 07:44 AM
You'll end up sittin' in the corner crying like you always do. Remember us having to endure all that Heisman crap before Sprawls shat himself?
I'd have to say K-States basketball team is having a better start than K-States football team. Besides, my expectation level for the bball team isn't a national title, a conference title, or some sort of individual honor. All I want from this team is some sort of post-season play, be it the NCAA Tourney or the NIT.

I know you realize that :KU:'s and :ksu:'s expectations are quite a bit different this year.

ENDelt260
12-15-2004, 10:41 AM
Pittsburgh State (23).

It's Pittsburg State.

Saggysack
12-15-2004, 04:06 PM
I can't believe Wichita St. recieved 3 votes. Puts them at 38th nationally. They better lock up Turgeon to a long high priced salary or else he will be gone in less than 2 years IMO.

If Turgeon leaves I would seriously like to see Steve Eck at Redland Community College come in and take his place. Eck has been gold with every program he has been involved with. His overall coaching career record is, 505-66.

royr17
12-15-2004, 04:50 PM
How is the K-State basketball team doing this year ?

warpaint99
12-15-2004, 06:29 PM
hey saul . they took down the kstate/wyoming game download link at kstatefans.

What uncool assholes. It was just last minutes of the game. College basketball= corporate assholes.

Saulbadguy
12-15-2004, 07:15 PM
hey saul . they took down the kstate/wyoming game download link at kstatefans.

What uncool assholes. It was just last minutes of the game. College basketball= corporate assholes.
So you are "endoman" eh? Do me a favor and don't post my links again. Nothing personal, but KStatefans wrecks my bandwidth when I post things like that. On Chiefsplanet, people don't care about K-State, so not many people download it.

Saulbadguy
12-15-2004, 07:16 PM
How is the K-State basketball team doing this year ?
Undefeated, 6-0.

warpaint99
12-15-2004, 07:18 PM
thanks for posting it.

Saulbadguy
12-15-2004, 07:19 PM
thanks for posting it.
No prob..glad you enjoyed it.

royr17
12-15-2004, 08:08 PM
Well sorry to bust your bubble Saul, but the Wildcats first loss will come against the Jayhawks. :p

Saulbadguy
12-15-2004, 08:09 PM
Well sorry to bust your bubble Saul, but the Wildcats first loss will come against the Jayhawks. :p
Kentucky Wildcats have already lost! :p


Actually, there are some games i'm somewhat worried about.

December 28th vs Rutgers and December 21st vs Northern Illinois.

Other than that I say its smooth sailing until Conference season starts. We very well could be 17-2/16-3 when we play KU.

Saulbadguy
12-18-2004, 09:18 PM
KSU goes on to 7-0, as does KU. WSU wins tonight as well to go to 6-0.

ENDelt260
12-31-2004, 03:14 PM
Dangit. I was really looking forward to coming on here today and posting that UMR had beaten Emporia State.

Alas, we lost 79-60.

Saulbadguy
01-01-2005, 10:22 AM
Dangit. I was really looking forward to coming on here today and posting that UMR had beaten Emporia State.

Alas, we lost 79-60.
Thats ok. KSU went down on Tuesday to Rutgers. WSU and KU are still undefeated as of right now. KU plays GT at 1:30.

Braincase
01-01-2005, 10:24 AM
Thats ok. KSU went down on Tuesday to Rutgers. WSU and KU are still undefeated as of right now. KU plays GT at 1:30.

Yep, and to be frank, I'm not optimistic. Unless we can get our 3-point shooters to make the rain fall, I think KU will go down today.

Pitt Gorilla
01-01-2005, 10:53 AM
Thats ok. KSU went down on Tuesday to Rutgers. WSU and KU are still undefeated as of right now. KU plays GT at 1:30.Is Rutgers any good?

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 11:55 AM
Yep, and to be frank, I'm not optimistic. Unless we can get our 3-point shooters to make the rain fall, I think KU will go down today.
WHA? KU lose? What a defeatist you are. Well, realistically, without Dub, it could happen.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 01:21 PM
WHA? KU lose? What a defeatist you are. Well, realistically, without Dub, it could happen.
I didn't think we'd win with Wayne.

KU playing like scared little girls on offense. They're lost without Dub. I was hoping it would be a close game that teaches the freshmen some lessons. Looks like everyone needs a lesson or two.

Doesn't help that Tech is a REALLY good defensive team.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 01:29 PM
We for sure need rid of that stupid Hi-Lo offense.

bobbything
01-01-2005, 01:36 PM
We for sure need rid of that stupid Hi-Lo offense.
Yeah, cuz it do them any favors in the tourney last year. I mean, an Elite 8 showing. Pffft...

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 01:39 PM
Yeah, cuz it do them any favors in the tourney last year. I mean, an Elite 8 showing. Pffft...
Yeah, genious, and the motion offense got us to the final four the two previous years. pffft...

bobbything
01-01-2005, 01:43 PM
Gooden, Collison, Hinrich got KU to the final four. Miles, Langford, and Simien, while good players, are not Gooden, Collison, and Hinrich.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 01:53 PM
Gooden, Collison, Hinrich got KU to the final four. Miles, Langford, and Simien, while good players, are not Gooden, Collison, and Hinrich.
Something else you probably don't know is that Illinois new coach changed them away from the Hi-Lo to the motion offense. Have you noticed where they are ranked?

bobbything
01-01-2005, 01:54 PM
KU wouldn't be any better than they are now with a "motion" offense.

WilliamTheIrish
01-01-2005, 01:55 PM
Your squad is undefeated.

Shut up, Skip.



Happy New Year.

royr17
01-01-2005, 01:57 PM
WTF is going on with us, how can we let these guys put points up so easy on us.

I mean come on Jarrett Jack drives and gets hack and he still makes the shot.

Come on guys get your act together and start playing some ball.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:00 PM
Your squad is undefeated.

Shut up, Skip.



Happy New Year.
Not for long. Eat shit. Happy New Year

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:04 PM
Thank God for the 3 ball.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:05 PM
The hi-low only works if you have at least 2 big men who can pass and score from the outside. Simien can do any of it, though he's more suited for post play. Beyond him, no one is clearly a good second choice. Moody is solid, but doesn't inspire fear from other teams. Jackson has shown flashes, but he's been inconsistent. Giles is a great athlete, and will someday be the guy primarily down low. Kaun seems like more of a project at this point.

Most teams' answer: double Simien, make KU shoot over the top, leave guys like Moody, Jackson, Kaun, Niang, et al. alone to brick shot after shot.

KU's run last year was as much a result of Giddens getting hot down the stretch, and Graves' ability to place nice lobs over the top to Simien as well as improved defense. Graves was a tremendous passer, he was just a head case in every other aspect of the game.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:07 PM
Thank God for the 3 ball.
I heard that.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:08 PM
C'mon KU pull ahead!

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:09 PM
The hi-low only works if you have at least 2 big men who can pass and score from the outside. Simien can do any of it, though he's more suited for post play. Beyond him, no one is clearly a good second choice. Moody is solid, but doesn't inspire fear from other teams. Jackson has shown flashes, but he's been inconsistent. Giles is a great athlete, and will someday be the guy primarily down low. Kaun seems like more of a project at this point.

Most teams' answer: double Simien, make KU shoot over the top, leave guys like Moody, Jackson, Kaun, Niang, et al. alone to brick shot after shot.

KU's run last year was as much a result of Giddens getting hot down the stretch, and Graves' ability to place nice lobs over the top to Simien as well as improved defense. Graves was a tremendous passer, he was just a head case in every other aspect of the game.
You also have to be physical to run it and we aren't. We'll get blown out without the 3.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:15 PM
You also have to be physical to run it and we aren't. We'll get blown out without the 3.
I liked Roy's offense. Take the ball out of the net and send it up court FAST, then look for the inbounder as a trailer for an easy lay-up. Oddly one of the knocks on Roy was always that he didn't recruit physical guys, and Self was just the opposite.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:20 PM
This game to watch= :eek:

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:21 PM
I liked Roy's offense. Take the ball out of the net and send it up court FAST, then look for the inbounder as a trailer for an easy lay-up. Oddly one of the knocks on Roy was always that he didn't recruit physical guys, and Self was just the opposite.
Exactly. And Self didn't have any problem beating us with his thugs. I can't wait till he gets us some.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:23 PM
Self's problem at Illinois was getting his players motivated.
But he would recruit some great talent.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:23 PM
Exactly. And Self didn't have any problem beating us with his thugs. I can't wait till he gets us some.
Jackson is supposed to be one of those. Just a muscle in a jersey.

It's funny, Giles gives a little push to a player in the post and gets called for the foul, and Langford gets poked in the eye during the shot on the play before and no call.

Sometimes refs key in on certain guys too much.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:25 PM
If Dickie V thinks it's loud in there now, wait till KU takes the lead.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:28 PM
KU just can't take the lead!

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:28 PM
:cuss:

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:33 PM
Quit jackin around with these guys already and score!

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:35 PM
Yes we know Simien's out already.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:36 PM
Unbelievable.

WilliamTheIrish
01-01-2005, 02:36 PM
OMG..

Bynum

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:37 PM
My grandma could walk out on the court and the KU fans would go nuts.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:37 PM
Is there an echo in here?

WilliamTheIrish
01-01-2005, 02:37 PM
Jack is just abusing everybody.

Demonpenz
01-01-2005, 02:38 PM
that dunk was sick

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:40 PM
What a game !! Somebody knock Jack out!!

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:43 PM
What a game !! Somebody knock Jack out!!
I USED to have a lot of respect for him. Great basketball player. But when he did that "shush" motion after that 3, I wanted to punch him in the face. That's bush league right there. Just score and get back on D.

Great game. I'm happy with the effort without Simien. I thought this would be a loss for sure.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:43 PM
F*k me!

Demonpenz
01-01-2005, 02:45 PM
free basketball!

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:45 PM
WTF no inside game.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:47 PM
Someone's liable to get killed in this game. Very intense down low. At least the refs are letting them go for the most part (except for Giles).

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:47 PM
Jack can GFH.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:48 PM
lol!

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:49 PM
WTF no inside game.
Nope, thank you Hi-Lo.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Scenscher is the goofiest looking mother fu*ker I've ever seen on a basketball court.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:50 PM
KU (Nows our chance to pull ahead!) here goes....CHOKE! :#

Demonpenz
01-01-2005, 02:52 PM
sensure looks like napolean dynimite

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:52 PM
Scenscher is the goofiest looking mother fu*ker I've ever seen on a basketball court.
He reminds me of Bill Walton.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:52 PM
Inexcusable for Langford to take that 5 second call. That could turn that game. A possible 4 point, 2 possession swing.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:54 PM
He reminds me of Bill Walton.
I thought that at first, but Walton was at least smooth. This guy is so gawky and herky jerky.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:55 PM
3 points whoopee, not like KU will pull ahead.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 02:55 PM
I can't believe we're watching hoops on New Years Day. We're typical KU fans.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:56 PM
Catch me im fainting!

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:57 PM
3 points whoopee, not like KU will pull ahead.
Nice pass Jack you BITCH!

Schensher is a moron. he took that hook shot from way too far out.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 02:59 PM
The heart attack kids.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 02:59 PM
I can't believe we're watching hoops on New Years Day. We're typical KU fans.
Because Bowl games are largely anticlimactic and boring anyway.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:00 PM
KEEEEIIIITHHH!!!!!!

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 03:00 PM
F**K YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Demonpenz
01-01-2005, 03:00 PM
lankford is experienced. Ku has to remember that there is 2 seconds left

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 03:00 PM
Story board on this game. :) _ :mad: _ :hmmm: then_ :p _ :huh: _ :grovel: = :)

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:01 PM
What a ****ING GAME!!!!

Go back to Georgia and sodomize your cousins you dirty WHORES!

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:03 PM
I'm expecting my downstairs neighbor to come up here and strangle me in a minute.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 03:03 PM
Its going to be a l o o o o n n n n n g 3.3 seconds.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 03:03 PM
I'm expecting my downstairs neighbor to come up here and strangle me in a minute.



Post your last wishs quickly then.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:04 PM
Its going to be a l o o o o n n n n n g 3.3 seconds.
Gotta press

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 03:04 PM
Woo Hoo

Lzen
01-01-2005, 03:04 PM
WOoOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! JACK TRAVELLLED!@@@!!!!!

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 03:04 PM
:) ROFL ROFL ROFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:05 PM
Jarrett Jack is a straight BITCH! Take your cocky ass and remember how you felt when you left THE PHOG!

Lzen
01-01-2005, 03:05 PM
Galindo has a chance to redeem himself for the missed FTs earlier. C'mon Alex, you've played a great game. Just make FTs.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 03:06 PM
ITS OVER BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 03:06 PM
That game about made me sick!

Lzen
01-01-2005, 03:06 PM
Game over, KU wins!!!! Wow, down 16 and they scrapped their way back in it. Incredible win for KU without Simien.

Lzen
01-01-2005, 03:07 PM
Jarrett Jack is a straight BITCH! Take your cocky ass and remember how you felt when you left THE PHOG!

I know what you mean. I hate that fugger. :cuss:

Lzen
01-01-2005, 03:08 PM
What a ****ING GAME!!!!

Go back to Georgia and sodomize your cousins you dirty WHORES!


ROFL C'mon, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. :p

Lzen
01-01-2005, 03:09 PM
That game about made me sick!

I know what you mean. I need to take a nap now. I'm exhausted.
:)

Baby Lee
01-01-2005, 03:09 PM
Well that was a little piece of heaven.
God Bless You, Kansas University, for giving me a reason to enjoy sports again.
I think I'm a little high.

Fairplay
01-01-2005, 03:11 PM
Well that was a little piece of heaven.
God Bless You, Kansas University, for giving me a reason to enjoy sports again.
I think I'm a little high.



That game was bitter sweet. Bitter the most part, but sweet in the end!

Ari Chi3fs
01-01-2005, 03:11 PM
wow.

Mr. Laz
01-01-2005, 03:15 PM
gutsy win :clap: :clap:



i just hope that the simien injury turns out to be a good thing in the long run. The Hawks need to learn how to play without Simien has a crutch.

Baby Lee
01-01-2005, 03:15 PM
That game was bitter sweet. Bitter the most part, but sweet in the end!
It was painful in the beginning. BUt a come from behind win is the best kind. Shows you can face strong adversity and step up. More impressive than a buttwhipping in my book. You whip their butt, they never deserved to be on the court against you in the first place. You do what they did today, and it sends a message that you NEVER SAY DIE!!!

chiefsfan987
01-01-2005, 03:15 PM
what an unbelieveably great last two games I've gotten to see from my two favorite teams. First the chiefs on christmas and now this? I'm lovin it.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:16 PM
Well that was a little piece of heaven.
God Bless You, Kansas University, for giving me a reason to enjoy sports again.
I think I'm a little high.
God I love KU.

After we lost to Georgia Tech last year, I didn't feel any animosity toward them. And this year, for the most part I still don't. I like their coach, and they are solid, but Jarrett Jack can jump off a cliff. He's a good player, but leave that attitude at the door and JUST PLAY!

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 03:18 PM
wow.
Just wow? Don't you mean WOW

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:19 PM
and if I can brag a little, I'm going to see them in 3 weeks in Philly versus Villanova. It will be my first KU game since Senior Day '97 versus K-State.

Pants
01-01-2005, 03:20 PM
My remote is in pieces and there's a big dent in the wall. This was pure awesomeness, in a big freaking dose. God I love my KU. Rock Chalk.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 03:22 PM
and if I can brag a little, I'm going to see them in 3 weeks in Philly versus Villanova. It will be my first KU game since Senior Day '97 versus K-State.
Dub could be back for that game. He got his stitches out yesterday.

royr17
01-01-2005, 03:23 PM
Yea thats right, YOU KU HATERS, TIME TO REPRESENT !!!

BRING ON THE KENTUCKY WILDCATS IM READY FOR USE TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM THAT WAY WHEN WE DO I CAN START RUNNING MY MOUTH OFF TO MY FRIENDS ON HOW KANSAS BEAT KENTUCKY WITHOUT WAYNE WHEN THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE NO CHANCE OF IT HAPPENING.

OH YEA BABY.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:24 PM
My remote is in pieces and there's a big dent in the wall. This was pure awesomeness, in a big freaking dose. God I love my KU. Rock Chalk.
I learned my lesson in '00 (or '99) when we lost at home to Iowa State. I keep all throwable objects at least within walking distance of me, or it will end up thrown.

One thing I did do was kick off one of my slippers, and started beating the hell out of my futon with it after Tech got that jump ball near the end of regulation.

Baby Lee
01-01-2005, 03:24 PM
My remote is in pieces and there's a big dent in the wall. This was pure awesomeness, in a big freaking dose. God I love my KU. Rock Chalk.
My dog is officially scared of me from the hootin' and hollerin', and I think my lumbering ass left divots in the hardwood floors from jumping around.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:26 PM
Dub could be back for that game. He got his stitches out yesterday.
This is what I hear. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:28 PM
Yea thats right, YOU KU HATERS, TIME TO REPRESENT !!!

BRING ON THE KENTUCKY WILDCATS IM READY FOR USE TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM THAT WAY WHEN WE DO I CAN START RUNNING MY MOUTH OFF TO MY FRIENDS ON HOW KANSAS BEAT KENTUCKY WITHOUT WAYNE WHEN THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE NO CHANCE OF IT HAPPENING.

OH YEA BABY.
Let's not get carried away. A win in Rupp will be a much taller task without Wayne, than a win in the Phog.

Baby Lee
01-01-2005, 03:28 PM
One thing I did do was kick off one of my slippers, and started beating the hell out of my futon with it after Tech got that jump ball near the end of regulation.
That could be the gayest thing I've read today. The monitor is giving off the scent of penis and astroglide just for having it appear on it.

j/k - ;)

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:32 PM
That could be the gayest thing I've read today. The monitor is giving off the scent of penis and astroglide just for having it appear on it.

j/k - ;)
I was standing in the middle of my living room watching when they called that jump ball (which in my homerism, I was sure was a foul) and I started jumping and screaming. At some point I kicked my leg and it flew off. When I picked it up, I wasn't quite done venting so I went nuts. Figured I wouldn't break anything expensive that way anyway.

Baby Lee
01-01-2005, 03:33 PM
I was standing in the middle of my living room watching when they called that jump ball (which in my homerism, I was sure was a foul) and I started jumping and screaming. At some point I kicked my leg and it flew off. When I picked it up, I wasn't quite done venting so I went nuts. Figured I wouldn't break anything expensive that way anyway.
I think it's the very wearing of the slippers. . . . Why not go all the way and don some strappy sandals?

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:34 PM
One good thing that has come from Wayne's absence is Alex Galindo. Before Wayne got hurt, he barely saw the field. Now he's out there knocking down 3's grabbing big rebounds and making tons of hussle plays.

Now if he could knock down his free throws...

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:37 PM
I think it's the very wearing of the slippers. . . . Why not go all the way and don some strappy sandals?
no, no, no, they have a back to them. They're like those slippers your grandad would wear. Very quite comfy, and since I keep it pretty cold in my apartment, they keep me from dying of hypothermia.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 03:41 PM
I was standing in the middle of my living room watching when they called that jump ball (which in my homerism, I was sure was a foul) and I started jumping and screaming. At some point I kicked my leg and it flew off. When I picked it up, I wasn't quite done venting so I went nuts. Figured I wouldn't break anything expensive that way anyway.
I hope you don't have neighbors nearby.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 03:44 PM
I'd like to know who the idiot was who yelled during Galindo's free throws. I thought somebody would knock him out after the first one but he did it on the 2nd one too.

Pants
01-01-2005, 03:45 PM
This will be awesome for Jayhawks, they now know they can come back and win in the toughest situations. And yeah, good thing I got some certificates for Christmas, I can now go and buy a universal remote.

Braincase
01-01-2005, 03:46 PM
Just got back from the game. The Phog about had clouds forming in there with the heat and the humidity. Best game I've ever been to at AFH in four years of going to games. Wow. I'm stunned we got out of that with a win. I'm biased, but we couldn't catch a call with a first baseman's glove.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:53 PM
Just got back from the game. The Phog about had clouds forming in there with the heat and the humidity. Best game I've ever been to at AFH in four years of going to games. Wow. I'm stunned we got out of that with a win. I'm biased, but we couldn't catch a call with a first baseman's glove.
from the tv perspective there were several calls that could have gone either way, but mostly it looked like they let them all play, except for Giles. All Giles had to do was look at someone and the whistle blew.

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:53 PM
I hope you don't have neighbors nearby.
Downstairs

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 03:53 PM
Just got back from the game. The Phog about had clouds forming in there with the heat and the humidity. Best game I've ever been to at AFH in four years of going to games. Wow. I'm stunned we got out of that with a win. I'm biased, but we couldn't catch a call with a first baseman's glove.
Dickie V thought it was loud in there when we were behind

DJay23
01-01-2005, 03:55 PM
I'd like to know who the idiot was who yelled during Galindo's free throws. I thought somebody would knock him out after the first one but he did it on the 2nd one too.
Normally, i would say he should still make it, but it go SOOO quiet in there, it was almost like a golfer concentrating on a putt. One little disturbance causes your muscles to tighten and totally misfire.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 04:04 PM
Just got back from the game. The Phog about had clouds forming in there with the heat and the humidity.
That was Billy Tubbs' favorite trick at OK when he had those run and gun teams.

Skip Towne
01-01-2005, 04:06 PM
Hey, Braincase, could you tell where that yell came from during Galindo's free throw?

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-01-2005, 04:45 PM
I take it KU won...???!!!!!!!

Awesome. I didn't get to see it. Another thing to be pissed off about today.

Go Hawks!

Lzen
01-01-2005, 04:53 PM
Yeah, I thought there were a lot of questionable calls. The charge on Miles late in the game was definitely bogus. Anyone surprised that the refs were from the ACC? :rolleyes: KU managed to overcome their flat play, GT's inspired play early, and the refs to pull out a W. All without their leading scorer. Nice job, Jayhawks. :thumb:

Terribilis
01-01-2005, 06:59 PM
Yeah, I thought there were a lot of questionable calls. The charge on Miles late in the game was definitely bogus. Anyone surprised that the refs were from the ACC? :rolleyes: KU managed to overcome their flat play, GT's inspired play early, and the refs to pull out a W. All without their leading scorer. Nice job, Jayhawks. :thumb:
What about the tie-up with Galindo after that rebound...
I almost went through the TV. The officiating was awful!

DJay23
01-01-2005, 08:08 PM
What about the tie-up with Galindo after that rebound...
I almost went through the TV. The officiating was awful!
I was more upset that the officials treated Schensher like he was made out of glass. The blew the whistle on Giles once for coughing.

Lzen
01-01-2005, 11:45 PM
Yeah, that late tie-up was bogus, too. At least that's what it looked like on TV. Of course, they didn't show too many close up replays so it is hard to say for certain from that view. And yes, Giles was called for barely touching someone while a lot of the GT players got away with murder. At one point, DV was saying Kansas has only shot 2 FTs because they weren't attacking inside. I say BS. They were attacking as well as shooting from the outside. They just weren't getting many calls inside.

Logical
01-02-2005, 12:18 AM
Hell I will post on this thread just to help move the spam off the front page. Good year for the Kansas BBers.

Saulbadguy
01-02-2005, 05:39 PM
I leave for the weekend and this thread gets turned in to a game thread? Ah well. KSU is 9-1, KU is 9-0, and the WuShucks are 9-0.

Saulbadguy
01-03-2005, 08:09 PM
With non-conference coming to an end for KSU tonight, KSU ends up 10-1.

The WUSHUCKS lose to Manhattan, 64-59

alanm
01-09-2005, 01:03 AM
I leave for the weekend and this thread gets turned in to a game thread? Ah well. KSU is 9-1, KU is 9-0, and the WuShucks are 9-0.And with the opening of Big 12 play..
Nebraska - 95 :thumb:
Kansas St. - 85

Sorry Saul.

Saulbadguy
01-09-2005, 08:16 AM
And with the opening of Big 12 play..
Nebraska - 95 :thumb:
Kansas St. - 85

Sorry Saul.
Sorry..you are a Creighton fan in basketball. :) I kind of expected this, but damn, we missed some good opportunities to put the game away. It went to Double overtime, and some missed FT's by us could have won the game. Oh well..on to Texas Tech!

Skip Towne
01-09-2005, 08:22 AM
Sorry..you are a Creighton fan in basketball. :) I kind of expected this, but damn, we missed some good opportunities to put the game away. It went to Double overtime, and some missed FT's by us could have won the game. Oh well..on to Texas Tech!
Bobby Knight gonna light you up!!

Saulbadguy
01-09-2005, 08:24 AM
Bobby Knight gonna light you up!!
I'm going to try to get in the front row so I can heckel the general as much as possible. Maybe I will get lucky and he will throw a chair at me.

Saulbadguy
01-09-2005, 08:25 AM
Hopefully our best player (Jeremiah Massey) will be 100% for this game. He didn't as much as he usually does in the NU game, which hurt.

Skip Towne
01-09-2005, 08:41 AM
I'm going to try to get in the front row so I can heckel the general as much as possible. Maybe I will get lucky and he will throw a chair at me.
That would be great. I'd love to see him lose it in Manhattan. I hate that douchebag.

alanm
01-09-2005, 09:00 AM
Sorry..you are a Creighton fan in basketball. :) I kind of expected this, but damn, we missed some good opportunities to put the game away. It went to Double overtime, and some missed FT's by us could have won the game. Oh well..on to Texas Tech!Creighton fan 1st but I also follow the Huskers. Creighton has dropped a couple they shouldn't have but they've been dealing with a rash of injuries. But the Freshmen off the bench are getting alot of PT and are growing up in a hurry. Nebraska is at best a middle of the pack club as usual.

WilliamTheIrish
01-09-2005, 11:01 AM
That would be great. I'd love to see him lose it in Manhattan. I hate that douchebag.

BK is 0-1 as TTech coach in Manhattan. KSU beat the snot outta them in his first year.

It's early, but this is a 'must' home win for Wooly.

KSU goes down 0-2, and it's likely time to toll the bell on Wooly. (IMHO)

ENDelt260
01-09-2005, 04:37 PM
Good Lord

Washburn 87
UM-Rolla 53

That sucks

ENDelt260
01-14-2005, 12:43 PM
The Miners beat the Bearcats! The Miners beat the Bearcats!

Er, Southwest Baptist Bearcats, that is.

How weird is it to have two Bearcats in the same conference?

On another note... the UMR @ Truman game scheduled for last Wednesday was postponed due to weather. I had no idea Truman was playing basketball on an outdoor court. Can we please raise some funds to build them a gymnasium?