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Cprise89
12-13-2004, 03:22 PM
I am the commish for our fantasy league. I had a Manager throw a game by benching all of his players (ie. Manning,Bruce,Wayne) to keep another manager from making the playoffs. Since I am new to Fantasy Football, is this a common practice? I have spoken with other Commsh's, and they told me I should kick the individual out of the league. Any recommendations would be appreciated!!!

Iowanian
12-13-2004, 03:27 PM
I don't understand how that worked out.......he threw the game, so his opponent would win, and make the playoffs instead of another player?

If thats the case.....He should be done IMO

Mile High Mania
12-13-2004, 03:36 PM
Any time a team owner deliberately benches his best players ... the reason is insignificant. Crunch the numbers and if the result of the game should be reversed, do it and that owner is done with that league.

You said you are new and you are the commish - so this is a league defining moment.

Here is what I would do ... run the score of that team's best players. Award the win based on the score of those players that should have and would have most likely been started, hell use last week's lineup.

Whatever happens based on that score is what happens and that owner is still kicked out of the league.

Mile High Mania
12-13-2004, 03:38 PM
Another question - is this a pay league?

You should do what I suggested anyway, but if this is a pay league you are on the verge of a small uproar.

Cprise89
12-13-2004, 03:44 PM
We have ten teams, winner takes $200.00 pot. I have decided to refund the managers $20.00 entry, and will pay the difference myself to keep the pot at $200.00.

Mile High Mania
12-13-2004, 03:46 PM
Who are you refunding and why?

Keep the pot the same - boot the cheater and he loses his entry fee.

Duck Dog
12-13-2004, 03:57 PM
It's his team, he should be able start who he wants.

ClearmontChief
12-13-2004, 03:58 PM
Boot his ass and refund nothing. I'd also be inclined to boot the one that benefitted from the fix...unless he can prove no knowledge/fault. If they're buddies, I doubt he's faultless and gone too.

Duck Dog
12-13-2004, 04:05 PM
Does it state in your league rules that you have to start your best players?

Duck Dog
12-13-2004, 04:07 PM
The commish of my league threw a game on another league not so someone could make the playoffs, but to keep someone from making the playoffs. It was strategy on his part because the guy he kept out by taking a dive had a good team.

Cprise89
12-13-2004, 04:10 PM
Here are the rules!

1. All league-related transactions will be executed with the intent of improving the owner's team and/or its standing within the league.

2. No owner may drop or "dump" players from their team for any reason other than improving their own team and/or its standing within the league.

3. No owner will engage in any action that may be deemed to be collusive (two or more owners agreeing to make moves that benefit one team, but not the other).

4. No owner will make any roster moves (including waiver claims, trade proposals, roster moves, etc.) whose sole purpose is to hamper the play of other owners.

5. No owner will take any action whose purpose is to, in any way, interfere with fair play in a league.

Mile High Mania
12-13-2004, 04:10 PM
Duck Dog .. if you are talking about pay leagues then that's flat out BS team management. Part of the role of the Commish is to maintain a fair competitive balance.

Duck Dog - let me ask you this...

Would your commish or you as an owner approve the trade of Manning for a Kyle Boller?

Mile High Mania
12-13-2004, 04:12 PM
Here are the rules!

1. All league-related transactions will be executed with the intent of improving the owner's team and/or its standing within the league.

2. No owner may drop or "dump" players from their team for any reason other than improving their own team and/or its standing within the league.

3. No owner will engage in any action that may be deemed to be collusive (two or more owners agreeing to make moves that benefit one team, but not the other).

4. No owner will make any roster moves (including waiver claims, trade proposals, roster moves, etc.) whose sole purpose is to hamper the play of other owners.

5. No owner will take any action whose purpose is to, in any way, interfere with fair play in a league.

I think 3, 4 and 5 clearly give you the answer.

Duck Dog
12-13-2004, 04:14 PM
Here are the rules!

1. All league-related transactions will be executed with the intent of improving the owner's team and/or its standing within the league.

2. No owner may drop or "dump" players from their team for any reason other than improving their own team and/or its standing within the league.

3. No owner will engage in any action that may be deemed to be collusive (two or more owners agreeing to make moves that benefit one team, but not the other).

4. No owner will make any roster moves (including waiver claims, trade proposals, roster moves, etc.) whose sole purpose is to hamper the play of other owners.

5. No owner will take any action whose purpose is to, in any way, interfere with fair play in a league.

Well that settles this argument. Can his arse.

Duck Dog
12-13-2004, 04:47 PM
Duck Dog .. if you are talking about pay leagues then that's flat out BS team management. Part of the role of the Commish is to maintain a fair competitive balance.

Duck Dog - let me ask you this...

Would your commish or you as an owner approve the trade of Manning for a Kyle Boller?

No way. My argument is, he can start who he has. The guy didn't drop or trade Manning for Boller. He simply just benched his starters to lose. But #4 on that rules list makes it perfectly clear, the guy is wrong and should be axed from league play.

That's why I asked for the rules, before I continued. :)

Mile High Mania
12-13-2004, 04:49 PM
No way. My argument is, he can start who he has. The guy didn't drop or trade Manning for Boller. He simply just benched his starters to lose. But #4 on that rules list makes it perfectly clear, the guy is wrong and should be axed from league play.

That's why I asked for the rules, before I continued. :)

Good deal... the rules were pretty clear.

Duck Dog
12-13-2004, 04:57 PM
Good deal... the rules were pretty clear.


yeah and thing is he could have done it more quitly by just sitting one player or starting a different D.

tyton75
12-13-2004, 05:36 PM
I'm the commish of one of my leagues and I would simply tell the guy that he violated the league rules.. and that he has forfeited his rights to the league..

I was in a league last year where it was obvious that 2 guys got together to make one guys team the best, but the commishes of that league were being pussies about it.. so they didn't do anything. Needless to say, I'm not in that league anymore
(if it was needless to say, why did I just say it?!?!)

Cprise89
12-13-2004, 06:24 PM
Thanks for all the advice! Just told the manager that he is disqualified from our league. This experience will make me a better commish next year!

Do the Chiefs have a chance tonight???

BigChiefFan
12-13-2004, 06:31 PM
Quick question-start LJ or Drew Bennett?

Duck Dog
12-13-2004, 06:38 PM
Quick question-start LJ or Drew Bennett?

Drew Bennett. He is avg. 8.8 throw to's a game and 16.45 FP's a game.

BigChiefFan
12-13-2004, 06:49 PM
Drew Bennett. He is avg. 8.8 throw to's a game and 16.45 FP's a game.
Cool-Thanks. That's who I had starting, but HBs typically have more carries than a WR gets touches, hence the dilemma.

Duck Dog
12-13-2004, 07:37 PM
Cool-Thanks. That's who I had starting, but HBs typically have more carries than a WR gets touches, hence the dilemma.

True but we are talking about LJ and the Chiefs. There is a good chance he score 3 TD's and rushes for 150 and there is also a chance he rides the pine all night.

You know Bennett will play.