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Mr. Laz
12-19-2004, 10:20 AM
our wins the last couple weeks against 2 other 4 win teams have really killed our chances at a high draft pick.

since we won against the bad teams who are tied for the draft spots with us, we pretty much gotta lose to the good ones.


we still have a huge #5 - #20 draft choice swing based on these finally 2 games.



and yes ... for those guys out there who continue to put their immediate gratification needs, of winning meaningless games right now, ahead of the long term success of the team can KISS MY ASS!!.



we pretty much lose every draft pick tiebreaker, so any team we are tied with will pick ahead of us. we can't afford win anymore games.

we are looking at a "potiential" swing from 4th to 22nd based on these last 2 games.


# Team W-L Opps'
W-L%
1 San Francisco 2-11 .476
2 Miami 2-11 .558
3 Cleveland 3-10 .591
4 Arizona 4-9 .462
5 Tennessee 4-9 .495
6 Oakland 4-9 .563
7 Tampa Bay 5-8 .466
8 Chicago 5-8 .476
9 New Orleans 5-8 .481
10 Houston 5-8 .510
11 Detroit 5-8 .510
12 Dallas 5-8 .519
13 Kansas City 5-8 .556
14 Washington 5-9 .505
15 San Diego 5-9 .529(frm Giants)
16 St. Louis 6-7 .490
17 Cincinnati 6-7 .548
18 Carolina 6-8 .510
19 Seattle 7-6 .442
20 Minnesota 7-6 .481
21 Dallas 7-6 .505 (frm Buffalo)
22 Jacksonville 7-6 .524

Ultra Peanut
12-19-2004, 10:20 AM
we can't afford win anymore games.This pretty much sums up your outlook on life.

Deberg_1990
12-19-2004, 10:22 AM
I Feel ya Laz! Id rather lose too, but we seem to be in the minority here...

Mr. Laz
12-19-2004, 10:24 AM
This pretty much sums up your outlook on life.

and your definately one of the people that fall into the "kiss my ass" catagory.



always have, always will .... monkey-boy.

Bob Dole
12-19-2004, 10:25 AM
Yeah. A second loss to this POS division rival would make for a super duper day, indeed. Improving our position in next year's NFL Crapshoot is much more meaningful.

Dipshits.

Ultra Peanut
12-19-2004, 10:26 AM
and your definately one of the people that fall into the "kiss my ass" catagory.



always have, always will .... monkey-boy.Awwww...

Demonpenz
12-19-2004, 10:27 AM
we REALLY need to NOT post thoughts on losings

BigVE
12-19-2004, 10:28 AM
Sorry, I will never WANT to lose the Donkeys. Never. Its up to the Chiefs brass to make the RIGHT picks in the draft, it doesnt matter how high your pick is if you dont know how to evaluate talent. If YOU dont like it YOU can kiss MY @ss.

The Bad Guy
12-19-2004, 10:28 AM
I agree. I'd much rather have a top 10 draft pick next year than a 2 meaningless wins at the end of the season that will cloud the judgement of our incapable front office.

ROYC75
12-19-2004, 10:33 AM
The draft is a crapshoot, we need to beat the snot out of the Donks !

FloridaChief
12-19-2004, 10:33 AM
Thanks for your shit-stupid opinion, Gunther_Fan....

bricks
12-19-2004, 10:33 AM
we have to go either 5-11 or 6-10. I would hate to see us go 7-9, 8-8. Then, our FO will just come up with excuses, and justify their reasons as to why we failed. There doing that already now that we won 2 in row. Can you imagine if we go 7-9, 8-8? then, will see another stand pat off-season. At least, if we go 5-11, 6-10, it'll put the force on our FO to do something in the off-season.

Skip Towne
12-19-2004, 10:34 AM
Sorry, Laz, I can't kiss your @ss. It looks too much like your face.

Deberg_1990
12-19-2004, 10:38 AM
Part of the reason we always seem to be perfectly mediocre is we always draft in the mid to late 1st round. This has a cascading effect and causes Carl to think he has missed out on a good player and encourages him to trade down or take a chance on a reach. If we draft in the top 10 there is less room for error.

LiL stumppy
12-19-2004, 10:43 AM
This is one of those game where I want to beat them but I wont be as mad as usual if we lose.

dirk digler
12-19-2004, 10:43 AM
I could care less about the last 2 games of the season but this is our Super Bowl and I want to win this game bad. We need to win this game for pride only. Plus we could knock them out of the playoffs which would make this season bearable.
Plus who here wants to hear TJ gloat all year long about sweeping us?

Mr. Laz
12-19-2004, 10:43 AM
Sorry, Laz, I can't kiss your @ss. It looks too much like your face.
ROFL

Bob Dole
12-19-2004, 10:43 AM
Part of the reason we always seem to be perfectly mediocre is we always draft in the mid to late 1st round. This has a cascading effect and causes Carl to think he has missed out on a good player and encourages him to trade down or take a chance on a reach. If we draft in the top 10 there is less room for error.

True.

Sims has been a real impact player. Taint is solid on the O-line, too.

Mr. Laz
12-19-2004, 10:46 AM
Plus who here wants to hear TJ gloat all year long about sweeping us?
ouch :sulk:


nope... dont like that at all


but gotta keep focused ... if it means we have a better chance of having super bowl talent next, then i guess i'll have to put up with taCogirl

dirk digler
12-19-2004, 10:47 AM
ouch :sulk:


nope... dont like that at all


but gotta keep focused ... if it means we have a better chance of having super bowl talent next, then i guess i'll have to put up with taCogirl


I hear ya, I wanted them to lose the previous 2 games and the last 2 games of the season but I really want them to crush the Broncos. I want them to destroy Plummer.

Mr. Laz
12-19-2004, 10:48 AM
True.

Sims has been a real impact player. Taint is solid on the O-line, too.
so then we should just stop drafting all together??? :rolleyes:


how about we actually deal with the problem instead just trying to avoid it.


lose these 2 games, get a high draft pick

then

revamp our personnel dept so we can actually take advantage of the high pick in each round.

Rain Man
12-19-2004, 10:50 AM
We really NEED to win this game.

We can't have the Bron co people getting uppity on us.

BCD
12-19-2004, 10:50 AM
Why? So Carl can **** it up?

Ultra Peanut
12-19-2004, 10:54 AM
"Soap tastes like flowers."

alanm
12-19-2004, 10:57 AM
We REALLY need to lose this game F*CK THAT!! This is the Donks we're talking about here!! Crush, Kill, Destroy them cheating bastards. I'd rather be 0-13 with the chance to knock the Donks out of the playoffs than have to put up with Taco's shit the rest of the winter, spring and summer!!! THEY MUST ALL DIE!!! :cuss:

CanadaKC
12-19-2004, 11:01 AM
On the bright side...it really helped having washington win their game...
I pray the Saints win over the bucs...because they have identical 5-8 records...but come draft trime...the Saints want Derrick Johnson or Rolle...and the Bucs will grab a RB or WR. Let's hope Arizona wins too.
Ans the Titans beat the Raiders.

Bob Dole
12-19-2004, 11:02 AM
so then we should just stop drafting all together??? :rolleyes:


how about we actually deal with the problem instead just trying to avoid it.


lose these 2 games, get a high draft pick

then

revamp our personnel dept so we can actually take advantage of the high pick in each round.

Yeah. That's the leap of "logic" Bob Dole was shooting for.

Phuqtard.

Rudy lost the toss
12-19-2004, 11:16 AM
Jesus Christ... the chiefs have a shot at damaging the playoff hopes of the broncos and people are talking about NEEDING to lose

mcan
12-19-2004, 11:30 AM
Here's me, kissing your ass...

Wins are the only thing that are important in this league... That's why they record them FIRST. They are the reason why fans pay $70, drive for two hours, wait in line, and sit and watch a "meaningless game" in a zero degree windchill...

suds79
12-19-2004, 11:39 AM
I used to be on the tank it bandwagon but we F-ed that up last week bigtime so I really don't care now.

I'm sure we'll blow the pick now.

Rolle & Johnson are out of the running so we're screwed.

Might as well try to beat Denver.

chief52
12-19-2004, 11:42 AM
[QUOTE=lazarus]



and yes ... for those guys out there who continue to put their immediate gratification needs, of winning meaningless games right now, ahead of the long term success of the team can KISS MY ASS!!.

WOW...some real fine football knowledge there, laz. Totally clueless post IMO. At least you will be happy tonight. The Chiefs will win which pisses you off which is what you were looking for to start with.

" Immediate gratification ahead of long term success???"

Gaz
12-20-2004, 05:33 AM
Yet another reason to enjoy the victory.

xoxo~
Gaz
Happy camper.

Chiefnj
12-20-2004, 07:34 AM
If the wins are coming because of young players developing then you should be happy. LJ, Parker, Black, Pile, Allen and Siavii all keep improving. Even if the Chiefs finished 1-15 they still need the afore-mentioned younger guys to make the playoffs. Draft picks alone aren't going to do it.

the Talking Can
12-20-2004, 07:46 AM
Denver out of playoffs

An offseason without Denver trolls

An entire afternoon of kicking Bronco ass in Arrowhead

Plummber exposed once and for all

Reading people bitch about wins cause it might cost us the next Ryan Sims....

priceless

jiveturkey
12-20-2004, 07:49 AM
I still don't understand how you're supposed to develop youngsters and lose on purpose. Are they supposed to run a little slower or block a little less?

KCTitus
12-20-2004, 07:53 AM
I have to agree with lazarus, here...

I mean, dammit, it really sucks that Carl is going to waste a mid round draft pick instead of wasting a top 10 draft pick like he did with Sims.

Cochise
12-20-2004, 07:54 AM
According to most of the same people complaining, we always screw up draft picks anyway, so why not just win and improve?

Bob Dole
12-20-2004, 07:56 AM
I have to agree with lazarus, here...

I mean, dammit, it really sucks that Carl is going to waste a mid round draft pick instead of wasting a top 10 draft pick like he did with Sims.

As Bob Dole commented in the Poz article thread, meaningless wins like yesterday are why we seldom acquire quality players like Brian Waters.

Gaz
12-20-2004, 07:56 AM
8-8, baby!

xoxo~
Gaz
Wants a win every time, even if [okay, because] it irritates lazarus.

OldTownChief
12-20-2004, 07:57 AM
It's going to be sweet beating the piss out of all three division foes in the last three weeks of the season.

Dr. Facebook Fever
12-20-2004, 07:57 AM
I Feel ya Laz! Id rather lose too, but we seem to be in the minority here...
Winning is ALWAYS better than losing. You guys seem to forget who is doing the drafting for us too. Does it really matter where we draft?????

Skip Towne
12-20-2004, 08:16 AM
I have to agree with lazarus, here...

I mean, dammit, it really sucks that Carl is going to waste a mid round draft pick instead of wasting a top 10 draft pick like he did with Sims.
As keeper of the lexicon you should know we don't "waste" draft picks. We "piss them away".

KCTitus
12-20-2004, 08:26 AM
As keeper of the lexicon you should know we don't "waste" draft picks. We "piss them away".

We do both, actually:

1. Pissed Away - Any draft pick traded by KC
2. Wasted/Reach - Any draft pick used by KC to select a player

HolmeZz
12-20-2004, 10:40 AM
Anyone know the current draft p0sition?

Logical
12-20-2004, 10:48 AM
Here's me, kissing your ass...

Wins are the only thing that are important in this league... That's why they record them FIRST. They are the reason why fans pay $70, drive for two hours, wait in line, and sit and watch a "meaningless game" in a zero degree windchill...

No that is pretty much stupidity, but in fairness I did it at 80s prices. Would not do it today at 2004 prices.

Mr. Laz
12-20-2004, 11:01 AM
[nt=Garamond][sie=4]
8-8, baby!

xoxo~
Gaz
Wants a win every time, even if [okay, because] it irritates lazarus.
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ah ... the head of the "kiss my ass" club ROFL

the man that would shoot himself in the head if he thought it would help us win.


doesn't matter that he would be dead and couldn't enjoy the win. :spock:



short-sighted fans are funny ... irritating ... but funny.







Goodbye Braylon Edwards, Antrel Rolle,Derrick Johnson,Mike Williams, Erasmus James,Ahmad Brooks ....


..... Alas we nevr' knew ye

Chiefnj
12-20-2004, 11:02 AM
Anyone know the current draft p0sition?

By winning yesterday we don't draft until the 4th round. There will be no good players left and the team will forever be destined to land in the AFC West basement.

jiveturkey
12-20-2004, 11:04 AM
Anyone know the current draft p0sition?I think that we're somewhere near 14-16.

Gaz
12-20-2004, 11:13 AM
We REALLY need to win all the rest of our games.

xoxo~
Gaz
Likes that day-after glow on the Planet.

crossbow
12-20-2004, 11:50 AM
Absolutely NO !!! We don't lose to the hated Bronc Hos. Ever !!! Deal with the draft on draft day but win every game you can every time you take the field. You NEVER want to get used to losing. You want your team to hate losing. Besides, the players have too much pride to look like fools and lose their jobs just so Carl Peterson can draft a guy that will take their place. And we don't want people on the team that are satisfied with losing.