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shaneo69
12-21-2004, 01:25 PM
As much as I couldn't stand his whiny attitude his last few years in KC, it pains me to say that I would probably vote for Donnie Edwards as NFL Defensive Player of the Year (if I had a vote). Has any other player done more for his team this year? Everytime I watch the Chargers' highlights, he's making a big play.

Other options...

Ray Lewis---Monday Night game against the Chiefs may have eliminated him from consideration this year.

Dwight Freeney---lotta sacks, might be the media choice.

Jevon Kearse---I honestly have no idea if he's done anything this year, but the Eagles are 13-1, so their players will probably get a lot of award recognition.

Champ Bailey---probably was the leading candidate after Week 1 but should be out of the running now after being punked recently on multiple occasions.

James Farrior---probably the Steelers' best defender this year, but not really a well-known name.

Richard Seymour---maybe, but Ty Warren played better against the Chiefs than Seymour did.

Marcus Stroud---some may argue that John Henderson has played better this year.

Julius Peppers---if Carolina doesn't make the playoffs, he probably will be dropped from consideration.

Lavar Arrington---leader of a great defense, but plays on a bad team.

Ed Reed---probably deserves the NFL Defensive PotY award as much, or more than, Donnie Edwards, but is overshadowed by Ray Lewis on that defense.

Kawika Mitchell---probably will be eliminated from consideration due to Chiefs' anemic defensive rankings and his numerous missed tackles.


Anyone I missed?

Ultra Peanut
12-21-2004, 01:28 PM
Gotta be Dexter McCleon.

Mr. Christopher
12-21-2004, 01:29 PM
Rich Scanlon

2bikemike
12-21-2004, 01:29 PM
Gotta be Dexter McCleon.

No way its Scanlon!

Mr. Christopher
12-21-2004, 01:30 PM
No way its Scanlon!
*See previous post ;)

2bikemike
12-21-2004, 01:31 PM
Rich Scanlon

Rotten bastage you beat me to it! :p

Mr. Christopher
12-21-2004, 01:32 PM
Rotten bastage you beat me to it! :p
Sometimes I get the first punch in...

...rarely, but sometimes

shaneo69
12-21-2004, 01:32 PM
Gotta be Dexter McCleon.

I thought it was Lional Dalton. :hmmm:

Rain Man
12-21-2004, 01:34 PM
My first thought was Ed Reed.

Mr. Christopher
12-21-2004, 01:34 PM
Didn't Arrington get injured?

shaneo69
12-21-2004, 01:34 PM
Roy Williams of the Cowboys will probably get some votes simply for breaking TO's leg.

Ultra Peanut
12-21-2004, 01:35 PM
I thought it was Lional Dalton. :hmmm:ROFL

Mr. Christopher
12-21-2004, 01:37 PM
And as to my vote, I would probably go with Freeny, simply because I've been able to watch more than one game of the Colts (go figure :rolleyes: ), and he's like a bullet out of a gun when the ball is snapped. He's single-handedly helped one of the worst defenses in the NFL (excluding the Chiefs, of course), to at least slow down opposing offenses.

Cochise
12-21-2004, 01:37 PM
Ed Reed for sure, IMO, should be the runner up to Rich Scanlon.

Mr. Kotter
12-21-2004, 01:38 PM
Keep fuggin' doubtin' WILLIAM BARTEE.... :cuss:

Cochise
12-21-2004, 01:40 PM
Didn't Arrington get injured?

He's only played in 3 games this year :spock:

Mr. Christopher
12-21-2004, 01:42 PM
He's only played in 3 games this year :spock:
That's what I'm sayin...I think that would rightfully eliminate him from Defensive player of the year discussions altogether

Cochise
12-21-2004, 01:44 PM
That's what I'm sayin...I think that would rightfully eliminate him from Defensive player of the year discussions altogether

I dunno, maybe shane-o saw something from him that we didn't.... :spock: :rolleyes:

wutamess
12-21-2004, 01:46 PM
Arrington's been out most of the year injured.

Reed is the no brainer.
This guy has made play after play.

Mr. Christopher
12-21-2004, 01:48 PM
I dunno, maybe shane-o saw something from him that we didn't.... :spock: :rolleyes:
Umm...potential?

ptlyon
12-21-2004, 01:49 PM
I dunno, maybe shane-o saw something from him that we didn't.... :spock: :rolleyes:

Even an injured player that has only played 3 games is better than what we put on the field

Lzen
12-21-2004, 01:50 PM
Jake Plummer. That guy is an interception machine. :thumb:

Cochise
12-21-2004, 01:51 PM
Jake Plummer. That guy is an interception machine. :thumb:

man, that guy can single-handedly bring a scoring drive to a screeching halt.

shakesthecat
12-21-2004, 01:53 PM
Julias Peppers. Carolina wouldn't have a chance without him.

Mr. Christopher
12-21-2004, 02:03 PM
Jake Plummer. That guy is an interception machine. :thumb:
Lzen - Jake Plummer just emailed me and he's giving you the Mile High One Finger Salute.

Chiefnj
12-21-2004, 02:08 PM
Takeo Spikes is having a good year and making some big plays, and (in my best Berman voice) Nobody Circles The Wagons Like The Buffalo Bills.

donkhater
12-21-2004, 02:46 PM
Ed Reed and James Farrior are the two players that popped int omy head first.

Edwards will get recognition but I doubt Def POY.

Freeney has been invisible on games without turf and he is easily run at.

Rod Coleman of the Falcons was huge for his team early on then got hurt for a while (didn't play in the KC game.

those are the guys that jump out to me.

TheNextStep
12-21-2004, 02:50 PM
My first thought was Ed Reed.
My first thought as well. Ed Reed isn't overshadowed any longer...

Bob Dole
12-21-2004, 02:53 PM
Keep fuggin' doubtin' WILLIAM BARTEE.... :cuss:

Done.

Thig Lyfe
12-21-2004, 02:57 PM
Kawika Mitchell---probably will be eliminated from consideration due to Chiefs' anemic defensive rankings and his numerous missed tackles.

And general suckitude.

ROFL

Chiefs Pantalones
12-21-2004, 03:02 PM
I'll have to go with Juilan Battle on this one. He may be a one year wonder, but he's having a glorious year.

Count Zarth
12-21-2004, 03:04 PM
Kawika Mitchell:

Chiefs Pantalones
12-21-2004, 03:08 PM
Kawika Mitchell:

ROFL rep

shaneo69
12-21-2004, 03:19 PM
I dunno, maybe shane-o saw something from him that we didn't.... :spock: :rolleyes:

How embarrassing. Shows you how much I watch NFC football. You can call me Gunther_Fan for the rest of the day.

tk13
12-21-2004, 03:24 PM
It seems to me like the media is leaning toward Ed Reed...

Cochise
12-21-2004, 03:36 PM
Takeo Spikes is having a good year and making some big plays, and (in my best Berman voice) Nobody Circles The Wagons Like The Buffalo Bills.

Definitely so.

When it comes to offensive player of the year/MVP/whatever, if Buffalo makes the playoffs and gets anywhere, I don't think you would be crazy to talk about Willis Mcgahee as an MVP candidate.

Yes, I know Peyton Manning has thrown a bazillion touchdown passes. Yes, I know Ben Rothlisberger has revived the Steelers.

One of those two guys should and will win the MVP award. But McGahee at least deserves some consideration as an also-ran for what he's done. Buffalo was 0-4 and looking dead in the water yet again this season. Travis Henry had run for 75, 67, 98 and 33 yards. They freakin' lost to Oakland.

Then in week 5 they start McGahee and now they've won 8 of 10 and might become the only team ever to make the playoffs after an 0-4 start.

No, he won't win, but he deserves to be mentioned as a runner-up.

SECTION11
12-21-2004, 03:37 PM
Bertrand Berry.
None of those listed has had a bigger impact on their defense in '05.

Cochise
12-21-2004, 03:38 PM
Bertrand Berry.
None of those listed has had a bigger impact on their defense in '05.

Bet the Donks miss him... their defensive line without Trevor Pryce is worse than ours.