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Alphaman
12-25-2004, 07:47 PM
This game is a very good indication of why we should not trade Priest. LJ is very explosive when the holes are there. Priest has shown to be able to deliver when the holes aren't as defined AND in short yardage. The O-Line did not run block that well tonight, Priest has shown to still be able to do things when that happens.

Count Alex's Wins
12-25-2004, 07:48 PM
LJ still pounded his Johnson into the endzone.

He's a stud.

Demonpenz
12-25-2004, 07:48 PM
LJ provides a homerun threat everytime. Priest is an eric metcalf kind of back

LiL stumppy
12-25-2004, 07:49 PM
Yup.Im not to worried when the Priest retires.

Alphaman
12-25-2004, 07:51 PM
LJ provides a homerun threat everytime. Priest is an eric metcalf kind of back


Explain what that means. I'm very happy with Larry Johnson's progression. I just don't think he is ready to be the starter yet. He can still learn some things from Priest.

Alphaman
12-25-2004, 07:53 PM
Yup.Im not to worried when the Priest retires.

Totally agree. When Priest retires. I'm saying he shouldn't be traded.

Deberg_1990
12-25-2004, 07:55 PM
Whatever.....You cant expect a back to gain 100 yards every single game!! ive seen Priest get stopped many times! Geez......

BTW, I think we should keep both of them.

Luzap
12-25-2004, 08:00 PM
Darren,

Good observation...

We're a much better team next year with both Priest and LJ.

I like Blaylock, but he is gone and I wish him well.

Did you notice that in the second half Kawicka started showing up? I've been reviewing his last three games with great disappointment, but was pleasantly surprised today.

I'm not ready to believe we don't need a good ML in the draft, but am feeling a little more comfortable thinking we CAN draft an ML rather than using FA.

Luz
Bob Dole deserves kudos (again) for his unflinching resolute support of Hall before any of us believed...

Alphaman
12-25-2004, 08:01 PM
Whatever.....You cant expect a back to gain 100 yards every single game!! ive seen Priest get stopped many times! Geez......

BTW, I think we should keep both of them.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Keep them both. Yes Priest has been stopped many times. What I'm saying is that when the holes aren't there, Priest is better at creating. I'm not knocking LJ. He performed well tonight.

Alphaman
12-25-2004, 08:03 PM
Darren,

Good observation...

We're a much better team next year with both Priest and LJ.

I like Blaylock, but he is gone and I wish him well.

Did you notice that in the second half Kawicka started showing up? I've been reviewing his last three games with great disappointment, but was pleasantly surprised today.

I'm not ready to believe we don't need a good ML in the draft, but am feeling a little more comfortable thinking we CAN draft an ML rather than using FA.

Luz
Bob Dole deserves kudos (again) for his unflinching resolute support of Hall before any of us believed...

Hey Bill. I don't know about Kawika. I'm on the side of getting Hartwell or Bell right now. However, I can see the Chiefs not bringing in a FA and let him continue to develop as the starter.

Logical
12-25-2004, 08:04 PM
This thread got you positive rep Alphaman.

Alphaman
12-25-2004, 08:10 PM
This thread got you positive rep Alphaman.

Thank you sir. This may be the first time we agree.

whoman69
12-25-2004, 09:24 PM
Blaylock will get the chance to start somewhere next year, IMO. The situation in Buffalo shows that every team needs a good back up. No, LJ is not as good as he can be, but certainly has shown he can be a valuable member of this team. Besides, is anyone certain at this point that Priest will be back to normal next year after another knee operation?

Captain Obvious
12-25-2004, 09:34 PM
I actually had the chance to talk to Priest at the game. He came out in the tunnel with his 2 sons and tried to watch the game. He was standing pretty much right below me, so I gave him a play by play. Unfortunately it was the 2nd play of the game(the interception). I asked him how his knee was and he said he's starting to feel a lot better. I also asked him if he's ready to get the Chiefs a ring next year and he just gave me a big smile and said, "Oh yeah."

Very classy guy, and it's good to know that he is looking forward to next year already.

Deberg_1990
12-25-2004, 09:35 PM
I thought LJ played pretty well tonight. He ran hard on his 2 TD's runs, caught a couple of nice passes from Trent and made a couple of decent blocks as well. Hes going to be a good one. I can feel it.

FringeNC
12-25-2004, 09:41 PM
31 Points and 32 first downs and 433 yards. It's hard to find evidence that we missed Priest. Not taking anything away from Priest, but it's clear to me that Trent has been this team's MVP the last two years.

I'm fine with Priest starting next year. I'm fine with starting LJ next year. What we should do depends on trade value and salary cap considerations. If we could get a 1st rounder for either one, I'd take it.

Count Alex's Wins
12-25-2004, 09:48 PM
I thought LJ played pretty well tonight. He ran hard on his 2 TD's runs, caught a couple of nice passes from Trent and made a couple of decent blocks as well. Hes going to be a good one. I can feel it.

I like how natural he is catching the ball. Catching passes and ripping off 30-yard runs is like falling off a log to LJ.

penchief
12-25-2004, 10:46 PM
Granted, LJ didn't dominate but he did make a statement, IMO. This was a hard played game by both teams. Let's give the Raider D some credit. Their front line played extremely well. They were in the backfield numerous times blowing up both running and passing plays. IMO, they gave our O-line all they could handle. Oakland had four sacks and two turnovers against the passing game even though it was obvious, IMO, that they were dedicated to stopping the run first. They blew up a lot running plays in the backfield or at the line of scrimmage.

Johnson ran hard all night. The Raiders made him earn every single yard. I thought he looked very good on both TD runs. To me, he showed that he is also a tough character with quite a competive streak. I saw no sign that he is in anyway intimidated by a tough hard-hitting game like those that exemplify the Chiefs/Raiders rivalry. He just keeps pounding away.

I was most disappointed in the 3.2 yard average because that is out of character for him, however, this is the NFL. But most backs would be happy with a 79 yard, 2 TD day.

IMO, LJ showed us another dimension tonight that should make us all feel more comfortable with the possibility of his taking over whenever that happens.

beavis
12-25-2004, 11:26 PM
Priest is an eric metcalf kind of back
This might be the most ludicrous thing I've ever read on the Planet, and that is saying a lot. ROFL

Toad
12-25-2004, 11:45 PM
Did you notice that in the second half Kawicka started showing up? I've been reviewing his last three games with great disappointment, but was pleasantly surprised today.

I'm not ready to believe we don't need a good ML in the draft, but am feeling a little more comfortable thinking we CAN draft an ML rather than using FA.


I did Luz. It was refreshing to see him make a few plays.

Pants
12-25-2004, 11:46 PM
Not gonna read the whole thread...

LJ hella good, but Priest > LJ.

BTW, Priest dreams of being Scanlon.

KCWolfman
12-25-2004, 11:46 PM
I like having the Barry Word type RB again. I don't mind having both of them.

ChiefsCountry
12-26-2004, 12:28 AM
I agree, we have the best 1-2 RB punch in the NFL. Its nice having that after the 90's when we didn't even have a running back, other than Jesse Haynes.

Sure-Oz
12-26-2004, 12:41 AM
LJ still had a pretty good game. He is still learning, I am just glad we know what we got finishing this season, rather then a huge question mark.

penchief
12-26-2004, 01:58 AM
LJ still had a pretty good game. He is still learning, I am just glad we know what we got finishing this season, rather then a huge question mark.

I couldn't agree more. The end of this season is so much more beneficial than preseason next year could ever be for the development of LJ, Parker, Black, Wilson, Allen, Mitchell, Sapp, and Siavii.

The nice thing is that many of them are proving their worth and we are still winning football games. The aura that's beginning to surround this team is a refreshing one.

LiL stumppy
12-26-2004, 02:15 AM
31 Points and 32 first downs and 433 yards. It's hard to find evidence that we missed Priest. Not taking anything away from Priest, but it's clear to me that Trent has been this team's MVP the last two years.

I'm fine with Priest starting next year. I'm fine with starting LJ next year. What we should do depends on trade value and salary cap considerations. If we could get a 1st rounder for either one, I'd take it.

Or we could keep them both and let LJ learn from Priest so he gets better.No one will take Holmes for a #1 pick,hes older,banged up and been injured latly.If we get rid of LJ we will have to draft another RB.So whats the point in that?

PastorMikH
12-26-2004, 08:06 AM
I guess I'm still at a loss as to why there are so many people down on Priest. To be honest it kinda irritates me a bit. Priest may lack the downfield burst, but he provides a whole other level when the chips are down. If Priest had been on the field yesterday, we wouldn't have turned the ball over on a 4th and inches - guaranteed.

We have THE best RB in the NFL and we can't wait to move him out for a kid that still has a lot to learn. Something's wrong with that picture.

jspchief
12-26-2004, 08:32 AM
First of all, let's clarify that only a select few morons wanted to trade Holmes in the first place. Anyone that wants to trade away the most prolific scorer in the NFL is definately a moron. I think a large faction of Planeteers simply have agreed that we can afford to lose Blaylock.

Secondly, I'll agree that LJ doesn't seem to have the field vision yet. I'm willing to be patient and think that will come with more experience. before this game, he hasn't been required to find holes because the o-line played so well.

Finally, the O-line played like a bunch of bums today. They must have had too much turkey in the morning. They were getting blown back all day, provided little running room for LJ, and in the second half gave Green no protection. I normally worship these guys, but they didn't show up for a big rivalry game.

Skip Towne
12-26-2004, 08:57 AM
I guess I'm still at a loss as to why there are so many people down on Priest. To be honest it kinda irritates me a bit. Priest may lack the downfield burst, but he provides a whole other level when the chips are down. If Priest had been on the field yesterday, we wouldn't have turned the ball over on a 4th and inches - guaranteed.

We have THE best RB in the NFL and we can't wait to move him out for a kid that still has a lot to learn. Something's wrong with that picture.
Aw, you're one of those old cranky guys I hear about here on the Planet. Just too set in your ways to accept change. Go LJ!! :p

Sure-Oz
12-26-2004, 12:54 PM
LJ i believe could play a huge role next year in giving priest the needed rest, so we can save him. Esp when we are trying to lock away a game he could be huge in burning the clock and not getting priest too banged up. Obviously we want priest in there for most of the money plays! I think LJ will get like 10 carries a game next season. Priest is too good but atleast he wont need to literrally carry the whole team on his back. LJ will def. play a big part in keeping him healthy.

RINGLEADER
12-26-2004, 12:58 PM
I agree with the original post in this thread. Larry has better speed and can be punishing in his running, but in short yardage situations he had some problems. Give him another year or two behind Priest and hopefully he'll improve.