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Deberg_1990
12-27-2004, 03:46 PM
Almost Prophetic....from his MMQ year in review...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/peter_king/12/23/mmqb.bestof/index.html

Aug. 2: The Chiefs, ridiculously, rely on Gunther Cunningham to fix everything

I find it strange, bordering on the bizarre, that the Kansas City Chiefs could go 4-4 down the stretch last year, give up 24, 24, 24, 45, 17, 45, 3 and 38 points in those eight games, and enter the 2004 season with the exact same starting lineup on defense that they used last year. (Well, there is one slight change. Last year, Mike Maslowski and Kawika Mitchell started 10 and seven games, respectively, at middle linebacker, and Maslowski looks to be the man right now.) They are counting on the attacking schemes of Cunningham to make the players better. I am, ahem, reserving judgment on what I think, but let's just say I'm skeptical. Cunningham is as tough an old bird as the NFL employs, but he doesn't wear shoulder pads on Sunday

Rausch
12-27-2004, 03:51 PM
Cunningham is as tough an old bird as the NFL employs, but he doesn't wear shoulder pads on Sunday

Neither does Dick Lebeau ( sp?) but he sure as hell turned around what was a pathetic Steelers D.

The reason their D turned around and ours didn't was becase they KNOW their secondary isn't that great, ADMITTED it, and changed their offensive gameplan accordingly. They ran the piss outta' the ball and protected that defense.

I'm not convinced the coaching staff even understands that when we run the hell out of the ball, we win. There is a connection. Yet, we try and be the Lambs. Making our defensive shortcommings even worse... :shake:

Deberg_1990
12-27-2004, 03:53 PM
I'm not convinced the coaching staff even understands that when we run the hell out of the ball, we win. There is a connection. Yet, we try and be the Lambs. Making our defensive shortcommings even worse... :shake:


VERY good point. Vermeil is trying to be stubborn and rewrite how you win football games in this league. Trying to copy his 1999 success with the Rams.

Thig Lyfe
12-27-2004, 03:56 PM
Not so much prophetic as it is common sense.

Rausch
12-27-2004, 04:09 PM
Not so much prophetic as it is common sense.

Not that we should let that take away from the fact that King is a front-running-Lamb-loving-tubby-POS...

Deberg_1990
12-27-2004, 04:13 PM
I'm not convinced the coaching staff even understands that when we run the hell out of the ball, we win. There is a connection. Yet, we try and be the Lambs. Making our defensive shortcommings even worse... :shake:

Another point on this. Ive never seen any stats on this, but sometmes i feel we score too quickly if that makes any sense? We dont seem to do a very good job of controlling the clock with our running game. Of course, the times we do we end up winning, so go figure??


But I suppose this was what you were trying to say, if we control the clock better with a power run game, we would keep our crappy defense rested and OFF THE FIELD as much as possible.

Mile High Mania
12-27-2004, 04:59 PM
VERY good point. Vermeil is trying to be stubborn and rewrite how you win football games in this league. Trying to copy his 1999 success with the Rams.

If that's the case.. he should have had a former arena league QB from the sack and save as the #2 and hoped that Green went down with an injury.

Amnorix
12-27-2004, 05:08 PM
Kinda sucks, actually. Peter made many predictions that he reposted in today's column, including

1. Wow, the Chargers REALLY suck. Too bad for Marty that this will be his final year. Terrible such a good coach should go out on a bad note. LT is totally lost in a system surrounded by worthless boobs.

2. Plummer - MVP. ROFL ROFL

3. Browns are definitely on the rise and a team to keep an eye on. A big threat this year.

Lost in all this is "hey, WTF are the Chiefs thinking by not signing anyone to their defense." THIS had to be the one he got right?! :shake: :shrug:

stevieray
12-27-2004, 05:13 PM
VERY good point. Vermeil is trying to be stubborn and rewrite how you win football games in this league. Trying to copy his 1999 success with the Rams.

eventually something will stick.

Mile High Mania
12-27-2004, 05:14 PM
Yeah, that Plummer for MVP thing was really going out on a limb...

Phobia
12-27-2004, 05:15 PM
Peter King hasn't hit on a prediction since the Rams won the Super Bowl. He's the biggest joke in the sportswriting business as far as I'm concerned. I don't know how he cons people into giving him money for his opinion.

Sydd
12-27-2004, 05:20 PM
Yeah, that Plummer for MVP thing was really going out on a limb...

Kinda like his prediction of the Broncos winning the SB by 17? ;)

Mile High Mania
12-27-2004, 05:28 PM
Peter King hasn't hit on a prediction since the Rams won the Super Bowl. He's the biggest joke in the sportswriting business as far as I'm concerned. I don't know how he cons people into giving him money for his opinion.

I too wish that I had his gig...

Calcountry
12-27-2004, 05:33 PM
Neither does Dick Lebeau ( sp?) but he sure as hell turned around what was a pathetic Steelers D.

The reason their D turned around and ours didn't was becase they KNOW their secondary isn't that great, ADMITTED it, and changed their offensive gameplan accordingly. They ran the piss outta' the ball and protected that defense.

I'm not convinced the coaching staff even understands that when we run the hell out of the ball, we win. There is a connection. Yet, we try and be the Lambs. Making our defensive shortcommings even worse... :shake:
Yep, the worst thing we can do is score too quickly.

Calcountry
12-27-2004, 05:34 PM
VERY good point. Vermeil is trying to be stubborn and rewrite how you win football games in this league. Trying to copy his 1999 success with the Rams.
DV should keep in mind, that he only won the SB by one yard employing that philosophy.

Calcountry
12-27-2004, 05:36 PM
Another point on this. Ive never seen any stats on this, but sometmes i feel we score too quickly if that makes any sense? We dont seem to do a very good job of controlling the clock with our running game. Of course, the times we do we end up winning, so go figure??


But I suppose this was what you were trying to say, if we control the clock better with a power run game, we would keep our crappy defense rested and OFF THE FIELD as much as possible.
In the first half of the Raiders game TOP was like 20 to 10, but we were tied because we spotted them 7 right out of the gate.

But the D was fresh in the second half, and they stopped em a few times.

Mile High Mania
12-27-2004, 05:37 PM
DV should keep in mind, that he only won the SB by one yard employing that philosophy.

Good point... so many lucky things bounced the right way for them that way. Starting off the year with Warner having a phenomenal breakout year after Green goes down... then, that 1-yard between Dyson and a TD.

Vermeil's Superbowl with the Rams... more luck than great coaching.

stevieray
12-27-2004, 05:38 PM
Good point... so many lucky things bounced the right way for them that way. Starting off the year with Warner having a phenomenal breakout year after Green goes down... then, that 1-yard between Dyson and a TD.

Vermeil's Superbowl with the Rams... more luck than great coaching.

just like your first SuperCriscoBowl

Rausch
12-27-2004, 05:42 PM
Yep, the worst thing we can do is score too quickly.

No, the worse thing we can do is get pass happy with two short armed WR's and go 3 and out every other possession...

Ari Chi3fs
12-27-2004, 05:46 PM
DV should keep in mind, that he only won the SB by one yard employing that philosophy.

Aint it the truth? Aint it the truth?

http://www.kansasoz.com/infocowardlylion.jpg

Deberg_1990
12-27-2004, 06:05 PM
No, the worse thing we can do is get pass happy with two short armed WR's and go 3 and out every other possession...

VERY MUCH agreed. Vermeil forgets that Kennison and Morton are his starting WR's instead of Holt and Bruce. The strength of this team is its power running game which is 2nd to none IMHO. Vermeil and his staff stubbornly admit to acknowledge this all the time as Whitlock has pointed out on many occassions.

Thig Lyfe
12-27-2004, 06:49 PM
No, the worse thing we can do is get pass happy with two short armed WR's and go 3 and out every other possession...

But the Chiefs are 1st in the league with 372 first downs and 4th in 3rd down percentage at 46.7.

WilliamTheIrish
12-27-2004, 06:58 PM
VERY MUCH agreed. Vermeil forgets that Kennison and Morton are his starting WR's instead of Holt and Bruce. The strength of this team is its power running game which is 2nd to none IMHO. Vermeil and his staff stubbornly admit to acknowledge this all the time as Whitlock has pointed out on many occassions.

He does?

Perhaps you missed the last season where we gave the ball to Priest some 300+ times on the ground and 70 more in the air.

Or the season before that where we gave the ball to Priest 300+ times and 60 more in the air.

Amnorix
12-28-2004, 06:57 AM
Peter King hasn't hit on a prediction since the Rams won the Super Bowl. He's the biggest joke in the sportswriting business as far as I'm concerned. I don't know how he cons people into giving him money for his opinion.

His *opinions* are worthless. He knows no more about football than the average fan.

His access to the powers-that-be in the NFL is very good, however, so when he passes on the opinions OF OTHERS, he adds some value.

Mile High Mania
12-28-2004, 07:41 AM
just like your first SuperCriscoBowl

Yeah, but the crisco and all the other stuff was 'planned' .. unlike the injury to Green and Dyson needing just 1 more yd. So, again - great coaching.