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DaKCMan AP
01-05-2005, 04:12 PM
He is a monster and will be an amazing pro. I wouldn't expect him to go in the 1st or 2nd, but who knows. He's a sophomore who declared today.

http://www.gatorzone.com/football/images/sun23/1097387271.jpg

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-05-2005, 04:13 PM
name?

Rain Man
01-05-2005, 04:14 PM
Is this a guessing game?

I'll start. Is he an animal, a mineral, or a vegetable?

Wallcrawler
01-05-2005, 04:14 PM
Im liking Ahmad Brooks, if he enters the draft.

When a guy is compared to Brian Urlacher, you have to take notice of someone like that.

DaKCMan AP
01-05-2005, 04:16 PM
#55

Channing Crowder

Linebacker 6-3 245
2004: ESPN All-American Linebacker…First-Team All-SEC Defense (Coaches)…Second-Team All-SEC (AP)…Named UF's Outstanding Linebacker…Co-recipient of the Defensive Captain Award…Third on team with 73 tackles…Gators' leader in tackles six games (EMU, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, LSU and MSU)…Third on squad with 8.5 tackles for loss…Intercepted first career pass and returned it 22 yards versus Arkansas…Recorded a career-high two quarterback sacks against LSU…Notched an SEC and career-best 18 tackles and forced the second fumble of his career against Mississippi State…Saw action in nine games (EMU, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, LSU, MSU, Georgia, FSU and Miami), making seven starts (EMU, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, LSU, MSU and Georgia)…Suffered a mid-foot sprain in the first quarter of Georgia game and missed most of the game…Did not see action against Vanderbilt or South Carolina due to the injury…Recorded one tackle against Florida State in limited action…Recovered his third career fumble and notched three tackles in the Peach Bowl versus Miami…Earned the Defensive Best Effort Award at the conclusion of 2004 spring drills…

2003: Named The Sporting News SEC Defensive Freshman of the Year…Named to The Sporting News All-Freshman team and Rivals.com All-America team…Named to the Scripps/FWAA All-America Team…Named Second-Team All-SEC (Coaches)…Named the Collegefootballnews.com Freshman of the Year…Selected to the SEC-All Freshman Team (Coaches)…Named to the Knoxville News Sentinel All-Freshman Team…Played in 11 games (all but SJSU and Ole Miss) with nine starts (Miami, FAMU, Tennessee, Kentucky, LSU, Georgia, Vanderbilt, South Carolina and Iowa)…Nine starts is the most by a freshman linebacker in school history…After week eleven, leads the nation in tackles by a freshman… Ranked first among linebackers, first among UF's true freshmen and tied for ninth on the team, with 816 plays despite missing two games… Became the first true freshman of 2003 to start for the Gators and was the first true freshman LB to start since Travis Harris started four games in 2000…Underwent arthroscopic knee surgery on Oct. 1, prior to the Mississippi game, and missed the Mississippi game…Returned vs. eventual national champion LSU 10 days after surgery to lead the linebacking unit with seven tackles…Led the linebackers with 106 tackles (avg. 9.6 per game), ranking second on the team, despite missing two games…Also had five TFLs, two sacks, four pass breakups and a forced fumble…Led the defense with a then career-high 12 tackles and one pass deflection vs. Arkansas…Led the defense vs. Vanderbilt with a career-high 15 tackles and a TFL…Pressured Kentucky's Jared Lorenzen, forcing a game-turning interception, setting up a Gator TD to give UF the win…Led the defense with 15 total tackles vs. Georgia, also recorded five TFL and 0.5 sacks…Finished his first game tied for third on the defense with six tackles, including four solo hits, and a pass breakup vs. Miami…Led the defense with 14 tackles versus South Carolina, also recorded a pass breakup…Ranked second on the defense with 11 tackles vs. Tennessee...Also had a pass breakup, was in on a sack and had a TFL…Was one of four freshmen to record a sack in 2003…

DaKCMan AP
01-05-2005, 04:18 PM
from last year:

Channing Crowder
Comparison:

Strengths
Out of this world talent at linebacker, is a true star in the making. Crowder is wonderfully developed for a player his age. Plays like a 5th year senior and he is a true freshman. Love his athletic ability, is a very nimble and agile kid that can flat out tackle. Crowder is very aggressive football player with unreal instincts and passion for the game.

Weaknesses
He is an athletic freak, he can run, he is tough, strong and aggressive. I really don't know a weakness in him at this point because he is so young. The only thing he will have to do is improve every single year and not get complacent. If he puts on 10-20 pounds to his great athletic frame he will improve his stock even more. What will bother NFL teams though is his history of injuries. He just underwent his 2nd knee surgery in as many years. He must come back and show that he has moved past the injuries, and still perform at a high level. He has a lot of time though.

Summary
Love his athletic ability, he can rush the passer, he can play tough run defense and he can tackle in the open field. Is really a gem at linebacker because very few kids play at such a high level being at so young. Channing could be the best inside linebacker in the nation in a very short time, great athlete with wonderful instincts and skill as a football player.

--Jeremy Osborne

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-05-2005, 04:18 PM
Channing sounds like a girls' name. But if she can get the job done I'm all for it.

Mr. Laz
01-05-2005, 04:20 PM
#55

Channing Crowder


sounds like soup....




i like soup :thumb:



http://www.uta.fi/FAST/US1/REF/images/chowder.jpg

DaKCMan AP
01-05-2005, 04:23 PM
He is one of the best tacklers I have ever seen. He just devours anyone with the ball and is ALL OVER the field. He has amazing athletic ability, instincts, and is always in position.

There will probably be more info on him in the future. He just declared for the draft today. He's a true sophomore.

unlurking
01-05-2005, 04:28 PM
2 knee injuries?

Since that info is last years, was he able to stay healthy this year?

DaKCMan AP
01-05-2005, 04:30 PM
2 knee injuries?

Since that info is last years, was he able to stay healthy this year?

He played in 9/12 games (1 was due to suspension).

royr17
01-05-2005, 04:38 PM
I think we should get Mitchell from Oklahoma or that MLB from USC, dont remember his name, just know that it is hard to pronounce.

htismaqe
01-05-2005, 05:03 PM
The two draft services I use have Crowder going in the 1st round, around 20th.

Personally, I think we should avoid MLB in the draft. We need a FA MLB that can take charge right away.

DaKCMan AP
01-05-2005, 05:32 PM
The two draft services I use have Crowder going in the 1st round, around 20th.

Personally, I think we should avoid MLB in the draft. We need a FA MLB that can take charge right away.

really? that high? the only team I've heard who has been really interested in him is Atlanta.

Count Zarth
01-05-2005, 05:34 PM
I would be shocked if KC brought in anyone to replace Mitchell. Vermeil loves him and they have too much invested in him at this point.

warpaint99
01-05-2005, 05:37 PM
Tackling is not just the problem. Not getting pushed around is part of it.

Nightfyre
01-05-2005, 06:49 PM
Fellas, there is a HUGE market of LBs out there. Drafting one would be idiotic. Look at the crop of FAs and save the draft pick.

Ultra Peanut
01-05-2005, 06:49 PM
Who we should draft for MLBI hear there's this great pitcher we can get out of Sam Houston St. who may be available with our first round sandwich pick...

When a guy is compared to Brian Urlacher, you have to take notice of someone like that.You mean like Casey Urlacher?

Channing sounds like a girls' name. But if she can get the job done I'm all for it.Leslie O'Neal says hi.

Iowanian
01-05-2005, 06:54 PM
Count Iowanian in the "vet FA MLB" club.

go bowe
01-05-2005, 07:03 PM
I would be shocked if KC brought in anyone to replace Mitchell. Vermeil loves him and they have too much invested in him at this point.that and we have so many holes at other places...

barber is out for at least part of next season; we only have one decent cb who will miss, what, 4 games next year; and other than jared allen we have no serious pass rush...

plus questions at safety...

i agree with goat cheese, mitchell will probably be our starting mlb next year...

Nightfyre
01-05-2005, 07:04 PM
that and we have so many holes at other places...

barber is out for at least part of next season; we only have one decent cb who will miss, what, 4 games next year; and other than jared allen we have no serious pass rush...

plus questions at safety...

i agree with goat cheese, mitchell will probably be our starting mlb next year...
we could save ourselves a ton of wasted cap space by throwing Barber on IR......

Phobia
01-05-2005, 07:08 PM
we could save ourselves a ton of wasted cap space by throwing Barber on IR......

How the hell does that equal cap relief?

HolmeZz
01-05-2005, 07:16 PM
Crowder's a projected first rounder by a lot of people. He should be available when we draft.

I like him and think he'll be a good player, I've just stayed away from him in my mocks and stuff because I think we can address MLB in FA, most likely an Ed Hartwell. I consider the MLB to be the leader of the defense and I'm not so sure how good a rookie would be stepping into that role right off the bat.

Nightfyre
01-05-2005, 07:24 PM
How the hell does that equal cap relief?
His cap weight doesnt go agains the salary cap.

Ultra Peanut
01-05-2005, 07:42 PM
I think we can address MLB in FA, most likely an Ed Hartwell.I drafted Edgerton Hartwell for the Chiefs in a mock draft a few years back.

DAMNIT, CARL!!!!!! :cuss:

Kansas City Chiefs (Psicosis) - Michael Bennett, RB, Wisconsin; Gary Baxter, CB, Baylor; Ryan Pickett, DT, Ohio State; Edgerton Hartwell, LB, Western Illinois; Cedrick Wilson, WR, Tennessee; Sage Rosenfels, QB, Iowa State; Kendrick Rodgers, OT, Texas A&MBaxter and Pickett were third-rounders... Bennett was the first-round pick we spent on Trent.

I was going to pick Mike McMahon where I picked Baxter, but the ****ing Bears took him right before I picked.

DAMNIT, PSI!!!!!!! :cuss:

milkman
01-05-2005, 09:00 PM
The two draft services I use have Crowder going in the 1st round, around 20th.

Personally, I think we should avoid MLB in the draft. We need a FA MLB that can take charge right away.

Any position can be the leader on D.

I want FA money spent CB, one that can come in and start, and be a difference maker.

Drafting a CB, especially with Dick in charge, is going to be a pick that won't see the field for a couple years, which is time that can't be wasted.

Give me a MLB in the first, if he's not a reach.

Chiefnj
01-05-2005, 09:21 PM
IMO, Gunther needs a veteran MLB and CB to make his defense work and to turn the team around.

There is also a MLB from San Diego State (I think) named Kirk Morrison (I think) who is supposed to be a relatively unknown, but good prospect. He would probably be available in the 2nd round.

2bikemike
01-05-2005, 09:45 PM
IMO, Gunther needs a veteran MLB and CB to make his defense work and to turn the team around.

There is also a MLB from San Diego State (I think) named Kirk Morrison (I think) who is supposed to be a relatively unknown, but good prospect. He would probably be available in the 2nd round.

I agree with the need for a veteran at both spots. (MLB and CB)

Kirk Morrison was a MLB for SDSU and he was pretty good. Had his name mentioned a lot around here. The mountain west conf. doesn't get a lot of play so he is kind of an unknown.

HolmeZz
01-05-2005, 10:11 PM
IMO, Gunther needs a veteran MLB and CB to make his defense work and to turn the team around.

There is also a MLB from San Diego State (I think) named Kirk Morrison (I think) who is supposed to be a relatively unknown, but good prospect. He would probably be available in the 2nd round.

Check out the mock in my sig. :p

I've got him in a later round because I think he's still pretty unknown and I expect him to get lost in the shuffle at the combine.

Frankie
01-05-2005, 10:26 PM
I think we should get .... that MLB from USC, dont remember his name, just know that it is hard to pronounce.

Lofa Tatupu I think.

HolmeZz
01-05-2005, 10:34 PM
Lofa Tatupu I think.

Tuppy impressed me the other night, but he's only a junior and is too undersized for the NFL at the moment. He might be a safety at the next level, like fellow USC linebacker Matt Grootegoed and ex-Trojan/current-Steeler Troy Polamalu.

Deberg_1990
01-05-2005, 10:43 PM
He is one of the best tacklers I have ever seen. He just devours anyone with the ball and is ALL OVER the field. He has amazing athletic ability, instincts, and is always in position.

There will probably be more info on him in the future. He just declared for the draft today. He's a true sophomore.

This is what they said about Kawika Mitchell too.

Ultra Peanut
01-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Tuppy impressed me the other night, but he's only a junior and is too undersized for the NFL at the moment. He might be a safety at the next level, like fellow USC linebacker Matt Grootegoed and ex-Trojan/current-Steeler Troy Polamalu.Polamalu was a safety at USC.

He was a ****ing beast.

HolmeZz
01-05-2005, 11:00 PM
He was originally a linebacker who converted to safety during his time at USC and that ended up being where he made his splash.

Ultra Peanut
01-06-2005, 12:01 AM
He was originally a linebacker who converted to safety during his time at USC and that ended up being where he made his splash.Did not know that about his origins.

Ultra Peanut
01-06-2005, 12:05 AM
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Mosi Tatupu! Mosi Tatupu!

Digital Takawira
01-06-2005, 01:04 AM
i don't want a stinking gator on the chiefs. hopefully the steelers choose to resign plaxico instead of kendrell bell and we pick him up. in a few years you will all bow down to ernie sims.

Nightfyre
01-06-2005, 01:05 AM
i don't want a stinking gator on the chiefs. hopefully the steelers choose to resign plaxico instead of kendrell bell and we pick him up. in a few years you will all bow down to ernie sims.
The last name has too much negativity behind it....

Digital Takawira
01-06-2005, 05:07 AM
snake in the grass (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/19/Sports/Snake_in_the_grass.shtml)

come on, the guy has a pet anaconda that he takes with him almost everywhere he goes! if we draft him he could nail plummer and as jake is lying there knocked out, ernie would go to the sideline, grab the bag with the snake and drape it around plummer's neck in a jake the snake remix.

http://www.chicagostrat.org/images/sims-2.JPG

dtrain
01-06-2005, 11:46 AM
I don't see anything wrong with taking a MLB in the first round if he is a player. The thing is would the Chiefs put him in the starting lineup and go with him or sit him on the bench and say he is not ready. The packers a couple of years ago drafted Nick Barnett and started him from day one and he is getting the job done. Seems like the Chiefs never want to play rookies for some strange reason. Look how long it took them to put Fujita in over Lew Bush.

Woodrow Call
01-06-2005, 11:51 AM
I read a good article on Odell Thurman out of Georgia. Any of you SEC fan know anything about him?

Chiefnj
01-06-2005, 12:05 PM
I read a good article on Odell Thurman out of Georgia. Any of you SEC fan know anything about him?

In the bowl game he played very well - physical, right position, made some big plays. I've read, but haven't seen, that he is a bit inconsistent. I also don't think he has the ideal size or speed that the scouts look for. He'll probably go in the 2nd or 3rd round. Blue collar college linebackers generally slip in the draft and then teams grab them in the late 2nd/ early 3rd in a bunch.