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cash1000
01-08-2005, 10:42 AM
Hint: The teams GM is Carl Peterson.

Kerberos
01-08-2005, 10:47 AM
And that surprises you HOW?????

Look at those teams and I bet the only team with a defense that is close to being as SH!TTY as ours would be Indy... and their defense is improving every game. But then again Manning just outscores most opponents so it doesn't matter!

:)

Cliff

chiefs4me
01-08-2005, 10:48 AM
I know,, I know,, How about the kc chiefs,,ROFL

Mile High Mania
01-08-2005, 10:49 AM
I was noticing also that several bad defenses advanced...

Overall Defense out of 32 teams
Rams (17), Packers (25), Seahawks (26), Vikings (28), Colts (29)...

Top 10 Overall Defenses
Steelers (1), Broncos (4), Jets (7), Patriots (9), Eagles (10)


KC had the 31st overall rated defense...

bricks
01-08-2005, 10:50 AM
And that surprises you HOW?????

Look at those teams and I bet the only team with a defense that is close to being as SH!TTY as ours would be Indy... and their defense is improving every game. But then again Manning just outscores most opponents so it doesn't matter!

:)

Cliff

when your QB throws 5-6 tds a game, it's very hard to lose. We score 30, but, we give up 40. Our defense is the worst ever, and won't improve as long as DV the head coach. Which sucks!

alanm
01-08-2005, 10:52 AM
Actually it's 9 out of the Top 10. I heard somewhere that Kansas City is the 1st team ever to Avg over 400 yrds on offense and 30pts. per game to not only advance to the playoffs. But to not make it to the SB. And the 1st to finish with a losing record. :banghead: I guess we can't stress enough how much our _efense truly SUCKS!! :cuss::cuss::cuss:

bricks
01-08-2005, 10:54 AM
Actually it's 9 out of the Top 10. I heard somewhere that Kansas City is the 1st team ever to Avg over 400 yrds on offense and 30pts. per game to not only advance to the playoffs. But to not make it to the SB. And the 1st to finish with a losing record. :banghead: I guess we can't stress enough how much our _efense truly SUCKS!! :cuss::cuss::cuss:

Pretty pathetic huh? :shake:

Mile High Mania
01-08-2005, 10:56 AM
According to NFL.com... the top 10 overall offenses were as follows:

1- Chiefs
2- Colts
3- Packers
4- Vikings
5- Broncos
6- Rams
7- Patriots
8- Seahawks
9- Eagles
10- Chargers

KC averaged more yds than anyone in the top 10... more offensive plays than anyone... more 1st downs... 2nd in TOP ... Chiefs were #2 overall in scoring, just 2.4 points behind Indy and only 4 less overall TDs on offense.

Mile High Mania
01-08-2005, 11:04 AM
Indy and KC were almost equals offensively, and defensively, they weren't that much different either.

Indy at #29 overall and KC at #31.

Indy gave up an avg of 370.6 yds per game, compared to KC at 377.3 yds per game.

Indy had 116 defesive penalties and 117 for KC.

KC was #32 against the pass, Indy #28 (Chargers were #31)

KC was #12 against the run, Indy #24.

KC beat Indy... craziness.

alanm
01-08-2005, 11:07 AM
Pretty pathetic huh? :shake:Pathetic is the polite way of putting it. If it were up to me there would be a public execution in 1 Arrowhead Drives parking lot today. Gallows would be erected and the public would be invited. No one on the _efense would be spared. That includes the Talent scouts, Scout teamers (Because they actually are more pathetic then the pathetic starters) All _efensive coaches and their next of kin. :cuss::cuss: Bring out the family and have a picnic in the parking lot. Just like in the old western towns. :thumb:

Count Alex's Losses
01-08-2005, 11:08 AM
It comes down to lack of consistency against bad football teams.

KCFalcon59
01-08-2005, 11:10 AM
God that makes me sick. They had better make some drastic changes. I don't know if I could even get excited for another year of wasting such an explosive offense.

alanm
01-08-2005, 11:13 AM
Pathetic is the polite way of putting it. If it were up to me there would be a public execution in 1 Arrowhead Drives parking lot today. Gallows would be erected and the public would be invited. No one on the _efense would be spared. That includes the Talent scouts, Scout teamers (Because they actually are more pathetic then the pathetic starters) All _efensive coaches and their next of kin. :cuss::cuss: Bring out the family and have a picnic in the parking lot. Just like in the old western towns. :thumb:Oh.. I forgot to mention that goes for their Damn Dogs too!! :cuss::cuss:

ck_IN
01-08-2005, 11:14 AM
The odd thing about the Colts is their deffense is porus between the 20's but they seem to stiffen in the red zone. The also have the NFL sack leader in Freeney and his bookend Mathis I think has 10 sacks as well.

Isn't Allan our top sacker with 9?

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-08-2005, 11:15 AM
The Browns?

PHOG
01-08-2005, 11:41 AM
Hint: The teams GM is Carl Peterson.

Thanks...now I have to take a couple extra aspirins. :mad:

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-08-2005, 11:42 AM
The Bears?

2bikemike
01-08-2005, 11:46 AM
Indy and KC were almost equals offensively, and defensively, they weren't that much different either.

Indy at #29 overall and KC at #31.

Indy gave up an avg of 370.6 yds per game, compared to KC at 377.3 yds per game.

Indy had 116 defesive penalties and 117 for KC.

KC was #32 against the pass, Indy #28 (Chargers were #31)

KC was #12 against the run, Indy #24.

KC beat Indy... craziness.

I haven't checked but I would bet Trent threw more Red zone picks than Peyton.

2bikemike
01-08-2005, 11:48 AM
Actually it's 9 out of the Top 10. I heard somewhere that Kansas City is the 1st team ever to Avg over 400 yrds on offense and 30pts. per game to not only advance to the playoffs. But to not make it to the SB. And the 1st to finish with a losing record. :banghead: I guess we can't stress enough how much our _efense truly SUCKS!! :cuss::cuss::cuss:

Now there are some Stats I would like DV to wrap is lips around and choke.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-08-2005, 11:51 AM
The Cardinals?

PHOG
01-08-2005, 11:52 AM
Actually it's 9 out of the Top 10. I heard somewhere that Kansas City is the 1st team ever to Avg over 400 yrds on offense and 30pts. per game to not only advance to the playoffs. But to not make it to the SB. And the 1st to finish with a losing record. :banghead: I guess we can't stress enough how much our _efense truly SUCKS!! :cuss::cuss::cuss:


Well....2 more aspirin. :cuss:

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-08-2005, 11:52 AM
The Texans?

stevieray
01-08-2005, 11:58 AM
398 first downs...NFL record.

Maybe I should change my name to Third Down Elvis

beer bacon
01-08-2005, 01:01 PM
I was noticing also that several bad defenses advanced...

Overall Defense out of 32 teams
Rams (17), Packers (25), Seahawks (26), Vikings (28), Colts (29)...

Top 10 Overall Defenses
Steelers (1), Broncos (4), Jets (7), Patriots (9), Eagles (10)


KC had the 31st overall rated defense...


All the bad Ds that advanced were in the NFC. I bet if we were in the NFC we could have made it too.

Mile High Mania
01-08-2005, 01:02 PM
Damn, stevieray ... you'ved aged a bit since I saw you in December.

Mile High Mania
01-08-2005, 01:03 PM
All the bad Ds that advanced were in the NFC. I bet if we were in the NFC we could have made it too.

The Colts are AFC and advanced with the worst Defense, only 2 slots worse than KC.

stevieray
01-08-2005, 01:05 PM
Damn, stevieray ... you'ved aged a bit since I saw you in December.

this team is killing me.

Mile High Mania
01-08-2005, 01:11 PM
Did you at least get the wardrobe malfunction fixed with the cape? After all of the Lohan, Milano threads about wardrobe mishaps... it's only a matter of time until someone posts a "NSFW - First Down Elvis Clothing Mishap" thread.

And, nobody wants that...

stevieray
01-08-2005, 01:18 PM
Did you at least get the wardrobe malfunction fixed with the cape? After all of the Lohan, Milano threads about wardrobe mishaps... it's only a matter of time until someone posts a "NSFW - First Down Elvis Clothing Mishap" thread.

And, nobody wants that...


you can't flag the King....


not on his birthday.

Chieficus
01-08-2005, 01:39 PM
I was noticing also that several bad defenses advanced...

Overall Defense out of 32 teams
Rams (17), Packers (25), Seahawks (26), Vikings (28), Colts (29)...



And of those...

Points allowed:

Rams (25) at 392 points, Packers (23) at 381 points, Seahawks (22) at 373 points, Vikings (26) at 395 points, and the Colts, which was so statistically similar to KC... (18) at 350 points...

The Chiefs were 29th with 435 points... that's just over 5 more points per game than the Colts...and that explains it all; all other stats aside...

Calcountry
01-08-2005, 01:50 PM
I was noticing also that several bad defenses advanced...

Overall Defense out of 32 teams
Rams (17), Packers (25), Seahawks (26), Vikings (28), Colts (29)...

Top 10 Overall Defenses
Steelers (1), Broncos (4), Jets (7), Patriots (9), Eagles (10)


KC had the 31st overall rated defense...
Wow, there is one shittier?

Calcountry
01-08-2005, 01:51 PM
Actually it's 9 out of the Top 10. I heard somewhere that Kansas City is the 1st team ever to Avg over 400 yrds on offense and 30pts. per game to not only advance to the playoffs. But to not make it to the SB. And the 1st to finish with a losing record. :banghead: I guess we can't stress enough how much our _efense truly SUCKS!! :cuss::cuss::cuss:
Yet, DV doesnt' think they are that bad? WTF.

Mile High Mania
01-08-2005, 01:52 PM
Wow, there is one shittier?

Yeah... the Saints, but they were able to top KC. :clap:

Calcountry
01-08-2005, 01:53 PM
I haven't checked but I would bet Trent threw more Red zone picks than Peyton.
Yep, the INT is starting to creep bank into TrINT.

Especially in the Red zone. WTF was it with him this year?

bricks
01-08-2005, 01:53 PM
Yet, DV doesnt' think they are that bad? WTF.

That's cause he old and senile. He's too fulfilled with love, the man is blind. We will NEVER win the SB with DV.

Calcountry
01-08-2005, 01:54 PM
Now there are some Stats I would like DV to wrap is lips around and choke.
Oh yeah, he loves to quote stats that support his point of view.

The reporters should start prefacing their questions with a blizzard of stats that lead to their questions, then watch him squirm.

carlos3652
01-08-2005, 02:00 PM
I was noticing also that several bad defenses advanced...

Overall Defense out of 32 teams
Rams (17), Packers (25), Seahawks (26), Vikings (28), Colts (29)...

Top 10 Overall Defenses
Steelers (1), Broncos (4), Jets (7), Patriots (9), Eagles (10)


KC had the 31st overall rated defense...

Man, 7 of the top 8 offense teams made the playoffs, and only 3 of the top 8 defenses made the playoffs... I thought a greater defense was better than a greater offense???

Oh and Mile High... How is Denver ranked 4th...? I am guessing you watched every game... was it turnovers or redzone or what... what made them so good? I was looking at the schedule and the chiefs lit them up with 24/45 in there two games, and then atlanta lit up 41, San diego, cincinnati and oakland all scored 20+ points...

I understand why we are 31st... only held 2 opponents to less than 20 points this year (Atlanta, Denver)... But I dont get why the donks are 4th...

The Jets only allowed SD to score 28 and StL to score 32 and only 4 other teams over 20+ (barely 20) yet they are 7th...?

If you have time, please explain...

Toad
01-08-2005, 02:13 PM
The odd thing about the Colts is their deffense is porus between the 20's but they seem to stiffen in the red zone. The also have the NFL sack leader in Freeney and his bookend Mathis I think has 10 sacks as well.

Isn't Allan our top sacker with 9?

Intersesting point. I often wondered this past season if Gunther thought at all about making this his game plan strategy (focusing on red zone execution). Obviosly if he did, it failed.

Mile High Mania
01-08-2005, 02:15 PM
Man, 7 of the top 8 offense teams made the playoffs, and only 3 of the top 8 defenses made the playoffs... I thought a greater defense was better than a greater offense???

Oh and Mile High... How is Denver ranked 4th...? I am guessing you watched every game... was it turnovers or redzone or what... what made them so good? I was looking at the schedule and the chiefs lit them up with 24/45 in there two games, and then atlanta lit up 41, San diego, cincinnati and oakland all scored 20+ points...

I understand why we are 31st... only held 2 opponents to less than 20 points this year (Atlanta, Denver)... But I dont get why the donks are 4th...

The Jets only allowed SD to score 28 and StL to score 32 and only 4 other teams over 20+ (barely 20) yet they are 7th...?

If you have time, please explain...

There were a couple of losses where they gave up some big plays, basically the big damage was done by 1 player and not the whole team rolling on them.

They sucked at creating turnovers.

Toad
01-08-2005, 02:18 PM
And of those...

Points allowed:

Rams (25) at 392 points, Packers (23) at 381 points, Seahawks (22) at 373 points, Vikings (26) at 395 points, and the Colts, which was so statistically similar to KC... (18) at 350 points...

The Chiefs were 29th with 435 points... that's just over 5 more points per game than the Colts...and that explains it all; all other stats aside...

Nice work. That right there is the stat of the year.

Big plays freakin' killed us. Again, if we could have held some of opponents drive to FG's....

tk13
01-08-2005, 02:43 PM
The odd thing about the Colts is their deffense is porus between the 20's but they seem to stiffen in the red zone. The also have the NFL sack leader in Freeney and his bookend Mathis I think has 10 sacks as well.

Isn't Allan our top sacker with 9?
They aren't a really strong defense, but they have a couple really good pass rushers there with Freeney and Mathis. They just keep scoring and getting ahead of you and forcing you to have to air it out and match them, then they drop back and play it safe in cover 2 and unleash those two pass rushers after you and it's very hard to stop.

whoman69
01-08-2005, 04:32 PM
Indy and KC were almost equals offensively, and defensively, they weren't that much different either.

Indy at #29 overall and KC at #31.

Indy gave up an avg of 370.6 yds per game, compared to KC at 377.3 yds per game.

Indy had 116 defesive penalties and 117 for KC.

KC was #32 against the pass, Indy #28 (Chargers were #31)

KC was #12 against the run, Indy #24.

KC beat Indy... craziness.
If I had to guess then I would say that the plus minus was in the Colts favor. Additionally the Colts were more consistent on offense than the Chiefs. The Chiefs had leads in almost every game and most of their losses took place in the 4th quarter.

tk13
01-08-2005, 04:39 PM
If I had to guess then I would say that the plus minus was in the Colts favor. Additionally the Colts were more consistent on offense than the Chiefs. The Chiefs had leads in almost every game and most of their losses took place in the 4th quarter.
Yeah the Colts led the league, +20.... I believe they tied for the league lead with 35 takeaways. They were also 4th in the league in sacks. The Chiefs were -3 and 7th in the league in sacks.

beavis
01-08-2005, 04:42 PM
Indy and KC were almost equals offensively, and defensively, they weren't that much different either.

Indy at #29 overall and KC at #31.

Indy gave up an avg of 370.6 yds per game, compared to KC at 377.3 yds per game.

Indy had 116 defesive penalties and 117 for KC.

KC was #32 against the pass, Indy #28 (Chargers were #31)

KC was #12 against the run, Indy #24.

KC beat Indy... craziness.
Wow, that's weird. I wonder what their giveaway/takeaway ratio was.