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Deberg_1990
01-14-2005, 09:04 AM
Well folks it was inevitable. This guy now wants out of town as well. Its official now, The Kansas City Royals are the worst run team in baseball:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/10642207.htm


By JEFF PASSAN

The Kansas City Star


First baseman Mike Sweeney, frustrated with the Royals' shallow plunge into the off-season free-agent market, said Thursday he felt “misled” by the team's plan to build a contender around him and would not rule out trade possibilities.

Minutes before he signed a club-record five-year, $55 million contract extension March 29, 2002, Sweeney and Royals owner David Glass spoke about the team's future. Sweeney said Glass told him he planned to increase the team's payroll incrementally until it ended up in the $60 million range.

After spending $44.7 million on last season's 104-loss team, the Royals' 2005 payroll currently projects to between $41 million and $42 million.

“It looks like the plan isn't what I thought it would be,” Sweeney said. “It is a bit frustrating. I'm not the owner. And I'm not the GM. But I am a player who wants to win. It's frustrating when you're told they're going to build the team around you. I was willing to do that. I said, ‘Just show me that it'll be worth it for me.' Not financially, but just show me you're going to build a team, a winning team, around me.

“I don't feel like Mr. Glass lied to me. He's a fine man. I just feel like I've been misled a little bit.”

Glass, the Royals' owner since 2000, said he does not recall telling Sweeney about a substantial payroll increase. Nor, Glass said, does one guarantee success.

“I think Mike's just misled or doesn't understand,” he said. “I don't think the size of the payroll determines how good your team is. There were a lot of teams with a smaller payroll that won a lot more games that we did. The quality of the players matters most.

“We're putting a team together with a lot of young talent. I hope Michael wants to be a part of that.”

When general manager Allard Baird shopped around his veterans last season, Sweeney's name surfaced in trade talks. Sweeney, 31, said in mid-June he wanted to stay with the Royals.

A limited no-trade clause, along with worries about his back that caused him to miss time the last three seasons, thwarted any movement. If Sweeney were traded, the cost of his contract's final three years would jump from $33 million to $37.5 million.

Last season, the Royals traded outfielder Carlos Beltran. This off-season, they lost third baseman Joe Randa via free agency to Cincinnati. Sweeney remains the only position player from the 2000 Royals team that scored 879 runs.

And Sweeney's position on staying with the Royals, likewise, has softened.

“I'm definitely not throwing up the white flag and saying get me out of here,” he said. “But I am saying I'm frustrated. If Allard Baird came up to me and said, ‘Mike, this team who's a winner every year wants you to play first base,' I'd have to pray about it, speak to my wife, speak to my family and then make a decision.

“Would I slam the door on it? No way. I'm not 25. I'm 31 years old. Only God knows how many years I have left to play. I want a chance to play in October.”

Sweeney enters his 11th big-league season wanting to prove, above all, he can stay healthy.

Originally a catcher, the 6-foot-3, 225-pound Sweeney moved to first base in 1999 and immediately became one of the American League's best hitters. His last full season came in 2001, a year after he hit .333 with 29 home runs and drove in 144 runs.

Back problems flared during 2002 and continued into last season, when Sweeney hit .287 with 22 home runs and 79 RBIs in 106 games.

With the expectations of an American League Central Division title already squashed, Sweeney missed last season's final 42 games because of a herniated disk. He has missed 146 games over the last three seasons, most because of back troubles.

“No one played better last year, including Michael,” Glass said. “He had a lousy year.”

Two weeks of fly-fishing trips with family and friends constituted Sweeney's off-season. After that, he outlined a rehabilitation plan with Robert Watkins, a back specialist in Los Angeles, and returned to Kansas City primed to work.

On Thursday, for example, Sweeney woke up at 6:30 a.m., lifted weights with his trainer for almost three hours and spent three more hours hitting, running, throwing and fielding ground balls. He followed with another hour and a half of back exercises and said he has felt pain-free in his two weeks of baseball-intensive workouts.

“For our success this season, we're a different ballclub when Mike's in the middle of the lineup,” said Baird, who would not address the possibility of trading Sweeney. “Completely different. But the overall success is going to come from the young kids stepping up to the next level. No doubt, when Mike Sweeney is not in our lineup we're a completely different team.”

With the Royals choosing to rebuild through their minor-league system instead of making free-agent splashes, they will trot out a lineup next year that includes youngsters John Buck, David DeJesus, Angel Berroa and, sooner than later, rookie Mark Teahen.

To bolster their weakness at the corner outfield spots, the Royals traded for veterans Terrence Long and Eli Marrero. Their big free-agent signing was No. 2 or 3 starter Jose Lima, and the Royals also brought in third baseman Chris Truby as a stopgap for Teahen.

“I would have liked to see them be a little more aggressive,” Sweeney said. “I didn't think our team payroll would be around what it is. When I signed my contract, I was under the impression it would start around 55 or 60 (million dollars). ... We had a great showing in 2003. I was really excited after that season. I saw what moves we made in 2004. It seemed like we were really making a push to capture the division.

“Everyone in baseball knows the Central Division is the weakest. But you have to go out there and try, make some good off-season acquisitions. Build around your veterans and hopefully supplement them with guys from the minor leagues and free agents. I'm looking at the team for '05 and it's not what I hoped it would be as far as stacking the team to win a division in 2005.

“I don't want to come off like I'm sitting back and crying because we don't have a team like the Yankees. The whole reason I'm frustrated is because when I signed my contract I was promised something else.”

Said Glass: “We don't gauge how we're doing based on how many dollars we've committed.”

Which is why, Sweeney said, he will soldier on. He wants to embody the captain's C on his chest by advising the younger players. He wants to return to his pre-injury standing.

“He wants to win, too,” Glass said. “The fact that he's frustrated is probably a good sign. If he just wanted to earn his salary and come and play and go home and not worry about it, he wouldn't be Mike Sweeney. But he also can help in that regard by being a good leader and setting a great example for the kids.

“We're all in this together.”

In the meantime, Sweeney will continue working out, remedying his back and spending time with his wife, Shara, who is expecting in August a sibling for their first child, Michael.

And, he said, he'll leave it up to Glass, Baird and the rest of the organization to assemble the winner he felt promised.

“I've never felt bad for myself and never been angry at God because I'm playing a game I love,” Sweeney said. “There are so many things that are horrible. There are people in Asia with the tsunami. There are people in Kansas City without a home. It's trivial whether the payroll is going to be $40 million or $60 million.

“I guess I'm just a man of principle. When you tell somebody something, you try to fulfill it.”

Saulbadguy
01-14-2005, 09:09 AM
I'd like to trade him at this point. He is the highest paid player on the team, and he is basically worthless.

Deberg_1990
01-14-2005, 09:10 AM
I'd like to trade him at this point. He is the highest paid player on the team, and he is basically worthless.

Yep, I agree..its time to rebuild completely. At this point, its time for him to move and and be with an actually winner for once.

Cochise
01-14-2005, 09:13 AM
I can't say I really blame him for wanting to have a chance to play in october before his career is over. I mean, the guy has back trouble and is 31, he's not going to be around in 10 years. And who knows if the Royals are ever going to get this small ball thing right, or if it's even possible.

Deberg_1990
01-14-2005, 09:18 AM
And who knows if the Royals are ever going to get this small ball thing right, or if it's even possible.

Its possible, but they have people running the show who dont seem to have a clue how to do it right??? So basically, by the time they figure it out, or MLB decides to change its rules to allow profit sharing and salary caps like the NFL, it will be too late for Sweeney. I say trade him for whatever we can at this point.

ChiTown
01-14-2005, 09:19 AM
I like Mike Sweeney as a guy, but as a leader, he blows.

He's not real vocal to his teammates, he's oft injured, and he's soaking up a large part of the team salary. If possible, I'd trade his ass for just about anyone right now. Preferrably a corner IF or OF player with some youth..........

ENDelt260
01-14-2005, 09:25 AM
Who the hell would trade for him?

Sure-Oz
01-14-2005, 09:28 AM
I hope he has decent value.

ChiTown
01-14-2005, 09:34 AM
Who the hell would trade for him?

Therein lies the problem. Nobody wants a 31 yr DH who can fill in at 1b with a continuing back problem, not to metnion, he's making +$11MM/yr (oh, and it will be +$12MM/yr if your team wants him).........

siberian khatru
01-14-2005, 09:34 AM
Maybe the Royals feel they were misled when they signed Sweeney. They thought they'd be getting a healthy player who was one of the elite hitters in the AL.

Deberg_1990
01-14-2005, 09:35 AM
Maybe the Royals feel they were misled when they signed Sweeney. They thought they'd be getting a healthy player who was one of the elite hitters in the AL.

Good Point. Funny how he failed to ask God that question??

Cochise
01-14-2005, 10:00 AM
Good Point. Funny how he failed to ask God that question??

:rolleyes:

I thought you were 'done with this team' anyway like you have said a million times before?

Scaga
01-14-2005, 10:01 AM
Maybe we can get a MLB (that's middle linebacker) and another corner for him.

Let's call Washington (Nationals and Redskins)

Infidel Goat
01-14-2005, 10:04 AM
“I'm definitely not throwing up the white flag and saying get me out of here,” he said. “But I am saying I'm frustrated. If Allard Baird came up to me and said, ‘Mike, this team who's a winner every year wants you to play first base,' I'd have to pray about it, speak to my wife, speak to my family and then make a decision.

“Would I slam the door on it? No way. I'm not 25. I'm 31 years old. Only God knows how many years I have left to play. I want a chance to play in October.”


If Mike can stay healthy this year, he'll get the chance to play in October:

The Royals have games at the Sky Dome on Oct. 1 and 2.

I'm betting that Mike won't be playing . . .

--Infidel Goat

beavis
01-14-2005, 10:12 AM
I'd like to trade him at this point. He is the highest paid player on the team, and he is basically worthless.
Ask him to take a pay cut, then see how bad he wants to win.

The Royals are spending 1/4 of their payroll on a guy who if we're lucky, will play 100 games this year, at least half of those as a DH. It's moves like this that make me think Allard needs to go back to scouting and leave the GM job to somebody else.

beavis
01-14-2005, 10:14 AM
If Mike can stay healthy this year, he'll get the chance to play in October:

The Royals have games at the Sky Dome on Oct. 1 and 2.

I'm betting that Mike won't be playing . . .

--Infidel Goat
I was about to give you the :bong: after I read that first sentence.

But sadly, you're correct. :rolleyes:

|Zach|
01-14-2005, 10:47 AM
:rolleyes:

I thought you were 'done with this team' anyway like you have said a million times before?
Don't hold him up to things he says... ROFL

Deberg_1990
01-14-2005, 10:48 AM
Don't hold him up to things he says... ROFL

I never said i was buying season tickets or anything......

Ari Chi3fs
01-14-2005, 10:50 AM
Funny thing is... the Royals should have given Beltran his contract.

|Zach|
01-14-2005, 10:51 AM
I never said i was buying season tickets or anything......
Nah, I don't know I guess I just find it funny everything is off the deep end with you...this guy is a TOTAL idiot...this team is the WORST run team in baseball...I am NEVER watching this team again. You bounce stuff around like this for a variety of things all the time.

You are the king of knee jerk reactions when it comes to sports information.

Deberg_1990
01-14-2005, 10:53 AM
Nah, I don't know I guess I just find it funny everything is off the deep end with you...this guy is a TOTAL idiot...this team is the WORST run team in baseball...I am NEVER watching this team again. You bounce stuff around like this for a variety of things all the time.

You are the king of knee jerk reactions when it comes to sports information.

OK ill admit i get a little emotional and say things that i dont really mean later on. But im sure we are all guilty of that.

|Zach|
01-14-2005, 10:56 AM
OK ill admit i get a little emotional and say things that i dont really mean later on. But im sure we are all guilty of that.
Yes but on such a consistant basis? Its all good though....its just your schtick. No big deal even if I disagree with it.

ENDelt260
01-14-2005, 11:18 AM
Funny thing is... the Royals should have given Beltran his contract.
Thanks for your insight, KingPriest.

ChiTown
01-14-2005, 11:20 AM
Funny thing is... the Royals should have given Beltran his contract.

Are you serious? Boras was never going to let Beltran stay in KC. That was just never gonna happen, no matter how hard you want to believe it.

RNR
01-14-2005, 11:24 AM
Untill they move or get new ownership this team will be nothing more than a triple-A team for the rest of the teams to pull talent out of.

Miles
01-14-2005, 11:29 AM
I can see how he is annoyed by the teams spending since he was a big time free agent when he resigned with KC. Though with his play and injuries hasnt exacly lived up to his end of the contract either.


Wonder if he understands that his contract makes him close to untradable. If he has a decent first half of the season KC may be able to dump him at the trade deadline for some OK prospects if they eat some salary. KC may even get lucky and the Yankees or one of the other big spenders may need a 1B.

They may be able to dump him now if they eat even more of it or get crap prospects in return.

gblowfish
01-14-2005, 11:31 AM
Can't blame the guy. He looks at guys like Beltran who get paid out the ying yang; and guys like Randa, where the Royals ate up his best years then tossed him like a used kleenex. Who'd want to go thru another season like last year? It's going to be a looooong year.
Last year's review as here on my website, as I follow the Royals each year:
http://www.georgeblowfish.com/Royals2004-1.html

Iowanian
01-14-2005, 11:33 AM
Maybe the Royals would win a few more games if their $55 million First baseman could actually stay healthy 2 weeks in a row, and if high dollar Mercenary outfielders would actually play a game.

Cochise
01-14-2005, 11:48 AM
Funny thing is... the Royals should have given Beltran his contract.

Check it out, these people still exist ROFL ROFL

Demonpenz
01-14-2005, 12:23 PM
The royals need some redass hardnose players. Last year I had the chance to listen to about 100 of their games on the radio and the one thing that stood out game in and game out is they didn't have the nuts to play the game right. From not taking out the second baseman on a double play, to not trying to take the extra base, or just getting tagged out at the plate instead of making an attempt to knock the ball loose. thats what pisses me off the most. Man I hated mike tucker when he was here, but I can tell you he would be in someone's face if someone didn't run out a ground ball.

beavis
01-14-2005, 12:47 PM
Man I hated mike tucker when he was here, but I can tell you he would be in someone's face if someone didn't run out a ground ball.
Actually, he was the guy in right field smoking a cigarette and scratching his balls between plays.

But for the most part you're right. They need to quit praying and kick some ass.

tk13
01-14-2005, 12:56 PM
I didn't even wanna post this article because I saw this thread coming. I've been a huge Mike Sweeney fan over the years, but for the first time in 15 years we might have a GM who's doing this thing right, if you don't want to be a part of it.... there's the door. It's amazing how quickly everyone forgets that just last year that the organization that doesn't want to win went out and signed big names like Juan Gonzalez and Benito Santiago and it crashed and burned. I guess I can't blame fans for thinking that, our own freaking team captain doesn't even remember it apparently...

Demonpenz
01-14-2005, 01:00 PM
I didn't even wanna post this article because I saw this thread coming. I've been a huge Mike Sweeney fan over the years, but for the first time in 15 years we might have a GM who's doing this thing right, if you don't want to be a part of it.... there's the door. It's amazing how quickly everyone forgets that just last year that the organization that doesn't want to win went out and signed big names like Juan Gonzalez and Benito Santiago and it crashed and burned. I guess I can't blame fans for thinking that, our own freaking team captain doesn't even remember it apparently...


Instead of signing those two they should have kept beltran. Holy crap that avatar is funny. Wombat veteran

Calcountry
01-14-2005, 01:01 PM
Its possible, but they have people running the show who dont seem to have a clue how to do it right??? So basically, by the time they figure it out, or MLB decides to change its rules to allow profit sharing and salary caps like the NFL, it will be too late for Sweeney. I say trade him for whatever we can at this point.
When the ratings for the Yankees vs the Mets arent' worth a dang west of the Hudson River, then they will figure it out.

tk13
01-14-2005, 01:02 PM
Funny thing is... the Royals should have given Beltran his contract.
Beltran never would've taken it. Baird has never come out and said it, but the "in the know" reporters like Jayson Stark have basically not-so-subtly hinted that Boras told the Royals that they needed to start at a 10 year, $200 million dollar contract to even begin to have a chance at re-signing Beltran.

Calcountry
01-14-2005, 01:04 PM
Maybe we can get a MLB (that's middle linebacker) and another corner for him.

Let's call Washington (Nationals and Redskins)
That would be cool, if a city actually owned and operated all of their franchises as a corporation. Each one would be merely a divisioin withing the corporation of sports franchises.

Oops, that would really suck for one sport towns. lmao.

Calcountry
01-14-2005, 01:05 PM
OK ill admit i get a little emotional and say things that i dont really mean later on. But im sure we are all guilty of that.
Not me. Naaaw, I never do that.

ChiTown
01-14-2005, 01:07 PM
Beltran never would've taken it. Baird has never come out and said it, but the "in the know" reporters like Jayson Stark have basically no-so-subtly hinted that Boras told the Royals that they needed to start at a 10 year, $200 million dollar contract to even begin to have a chance at re-signing Beltran.

Exactly. Even then, Boras didn't want his client in KC. Boras can get Beltran (as well as himself) as much money in advertising/endorsement deals as his current annual contract value, now that he's with the NYM's.

He was never, lemme repeat, NEVER going to re-sign with the Royals............

Calcountry
01-14-2005, 01:11 PM
Untill they move or get new ownership this team will be nothing more than a triple-A team for the rest of the teams to pull talent out of.

They are actually 4A because their talent is obviously better than 3A.

MLB should just make a 4A league out of all of the small market clubs and end this facade of competitiveness that it now has.

With that said, who should be in the MLB and who should be in the 4A.

My list:

KC
Oakland
Minnesota
Texas
Seattle
Toronto
Pittsburgh
Millwaukee
Detroit
Should be in 4A

let the Big boys have their fun with themselves.

tk13
01-14-2005, 01:18 PM
Exactly. Even then, Boras didn't want his client in KC. Boras can get Beltran (as well as himself) as much money in advertising/endorsement deals as his current annual contract value, now that he's with the NYM's.

He was never, lemme repeat, NEVER going to re-sign with the Royals............
There's no hard evidence that Boras asked for that, but either Baird or Glass said Boras wanted a 10 year deal.... and Jayson Stark said in a column a month or two ago that Boras told one team that they'd have to start negotiations at 10 years, 200 million.... never said it was the Royals but I can put 2 and 2 together. He certainly wasn't going to give us a hometown discount...

beavis
01-14-2005, 01:21 PM
They are actually 4A because their talent is obviously better than 3A.

MLB should just make a 4A league out of all of the small market clubs and end this facade of competitiveness that it now has.

With that said, who should be in the MLB and who should be in the 4A.

My list:

KC
Oakland
Minnesota
Texas
Seattle
Toronto
Pittsburgh
Millwaukee
Detroit
Should be in 4A

let the Big boys have their fun with themselves.
Seattle has one of the largest payrolls in the league. Texas wasn't far behind until the got rid of A-Rod.

beavis
01-14-2005, 01:22 PM
There's no hard evidence that Boras asked for that, but either Baird or Glass said Boras wanted a 10 year deal.... and Jayson Stark said in a column a month or two ago that Boras told one team that they'd have to start negotiations at 10 years, 200 million.... never said it was the Royals but I can put 2 and 2 together. He certainly wasn't going to give us a hometown discount...
He just flat out wasn't going to sign here. I don't think it would have mattered what we offered.

Deberg_1990
01-14-2005, 02:12 PM
He was never, lemme repeat, NEVER going to re-sign with the Royals............

Exactly, the minute Beltran hired Boras has his agent that spoke volumes about his long term intentions.

Pitt Gorilla
01-14-2005, 02:16 PM
Maybe the Royals feel they were misled when they signed Sweeney. They thought they'd be getting a healthy player who was one of the elite hitters in the AL.Exactly. Sweeney should be brought up on criminal charges for stealing that much money; the Royals thought they were getting a player who would actually play and produce...

BigChiefFan
01-14-2005, 02:53 PM
Sweeney has really struggled in recent years, but I can't blame him for wanting to win. MLB is a joke the way it is operated and nobody will do a damn thing to change it.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-14-2005, 03:00 PM
Instead of signing those two they should have kept beltran.
Would have never happened anyway.

With the addition of Lima...the return of Hernandez and a healthy Sweeney, this team could win 50......maybe even 55 games next season. If they can stay healthy, get some clutch hitting, a psuedo stopper for the pen and rub Budda's belly before each game. Crazy things can happen.