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Rain Man
01-16-2005, 12:48 PM
Bullet poll on its way.

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 01:02 PM
Brady
Manning
Culpepper
McNabb
Green
Pennington

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 01:07 PM
Pennington's stock is kinda falling. I think maybe Hasselbeck replaces him.

Rain Man
01-16-2005, 01:14 PM
I'm a bit surprised that McNair hasn't received any votes yet. He's tough.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
01-16-2005, 01:19 PM
I'm a bit surprised that McNair hasn't received any votes yet. He's tough.


If you'd have asked a couple of years ago, I think McNair would have gotten quite a few votes. However, age/injuries and the improvement in other quaterbacks means he's slid backwards a bit.

He's still a great QB, but not one of the top six anymore.

Wile_E_Coyote
01-16-2005, 01:21 PM
yall see something in Favre I don't

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 01:23 PM
Favre has lost it. Sometimes he'll look like the old Favre and sometimes he looks like Plummer.

Cochise
01-16-2005, 01:24 PM
He's not an elite QB and never was one. He's a creation of ESPN.

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 01:25 PM
He's not an elite QB and never was one. He's a creation of ESPN.

No. Favre used to be elite. He's a two-time MVP (or something).

Cochise
01-16-2005, 01:27 PM
No. Favre used to be elite. He's a two-time MVP (or something).

I'm talking about McNair

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 01:28 PM
I'm talking about McNair

McNair was good but only for about 3 or 4 years.

SNR
01-16-2005, 01:38 PM
1. Manning (Peyton)
2. Brady
3. Culpepper
4. McNabb
5. Green
6. Rothlisberger

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 01:39 PM
6. Rothlisberger

Bullcrap.

SNR
01-16-2005, 01:42 PM
Bullcrap.He's a question, especially after this game he just had.

But undefeated his first year at QB! Has ESPN's boy Brady had an undefeated season?

SNR
01-16-2005, 01:44 PM
Has anyone seen Taco? Nobody has voted for Plummer yet ROFL

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 01:45 PM
Has anyone seen Taco? Nobody has voted for Plummer yet ROFL

TJ has done a 180 on Plummer.

HolmeZz
01-16-2005, 01:47 PM
Manning, Brady, McNabb, Culpepper, Green, and Favre.

Valiant
01-16-2005, 01:57 PM
Peyton---nuff said
Brady--- great season and already 2SB
Pennington--- Great QB leading average offense
Mcnabb--- year in, year out great...
Rothlesberger--- undefeated...
Green--- Worst of the group.. does it without a top WR, yes he has TonyG, but would have a lot better stats with a top WR.. all of the others on here have a elite WR to throw too except for Pennington..


you said top six QBs..

Vick needs another 1-2 years to convince me of seasons like this one to be considered a great QB...he is still to much of a RB...

Culpepper is closer, he is just below average though without a moss and a stacked recieving core... Moss means more to Culpeppers stats then the other way...

Brees needs some years like Vick at this level...

Same for the Jacksonville QB...

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 01:59 PM
Peyton---nuff said
Brady--- great season and already 2SB
Pennington--- Great QB leading average offense
Mcnabb--- year in, year out great...
Rothlesberger--- undefeated...
Green--- Worst of the group.. does it without a top WR, yes he has TonyG, but would have a lot better stats with a top WR.. all of the others on here have a elite WR to throw too except for Pennington..


you said top six QBs..

Vick needs another 1-2 years to convince me of seasons like this one to be considered a great QB...he is still to much of a RB...

Culpepper is closer, he is just below average though without a moss and a stacked recieving core... Moss means more to Culpeppers stats then the other way...

Brees needs some years like Vick at this level...

Same for the Jacksonville QB...

Brady doesn't have an elite WR.

I think Culpepper proved this year he wasn't just riding Randy Moss' coattails. Moss was hurt for like 6 weeks.

Rain Man
01-16-2005, 02:00 PM
Where's Bob Dole? No one has voted for Eli Manning yet.

Pants
01-16-2005, 02:18 PM
Peyton doesn't have an elite WR? You are right, he's got two - Harrison and Wayne. Stokley is also better than any Chiefs WR as of now (I think Parker and Horn are going to change that).

SNR
01-16-2005, 02:30 PM
Vick gets no love because the title of the thread is "name the top six quarterbacks in the league" not "name the top six athletes who play quarterback in the league"

Deberg_1990
01-16-2005, 02:34 PM
You could make a strong case that Green is better than Culpepper. It probably evens out overall though. Green doesnt scamble as well but hes a more accurate passer than Culpepper.

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 02:36 PM
You could make a strong case that Green is better than Culpepper. It probably evens out overall though. Green doesnt scamble as well but hes a more accurate passer than Culpepper.

I disagree big time.

Culpepper played as well as any QB in the league while Moss was out.

Deberg_1990
01-16-2005, 02:39 PM
I disagree big time.

Culpepper played as well as any QB in the league while Moss was out.

Its close....hell, a team would be lucky to have either, but probably overall Culpepper is more gifted.

HolmeZz
01-16-2005, 03:00 PM
There's no way Roethlisberger is a better QB than Green. Not at this point.

Deberg_1990
01-16-2005, 03:03 PM
There's no way Roethlisberger is a better QB than Green. Not at this point.

No, of course not. He may be some day but not yet. He only gets love because of the team performance this year.

BigMeatballDave
01-16-2005, 04:08 PM
Who the hell voted for Bledsoe?

Iowanian
01-16-2005, 05:17 PM
manning
brady
Cullpepper
McNabb
Leftwich

Green is good but not top flight.
I like Favre's play, but he's declining.
Roethlisberger has been effective...but he's not putting up big numbers. He's "Dilfering" this year IMO...Great Defense, Good Running game, Very good WRs. HE just has to Not make mistakes.

NEXT season Leftwich and Pennington make the leap.

Thig Lyfe
01-16-2005, 05:19 PM
Looks like I ended up voting for the Top 6.

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 05:19 PM
manning
brady
Cullpepper
McNabb
Leftwich

Green is good but not top flight.
I like Favre's play, but he's declining.
Roethlisberger has been effective...but he's not putting up big numbers. He's "Dilfering" this year IMO...Great Defense, Good Running game, Very good WRs. HE just has to Not make mistakes.

NEXT season Leftwich and Pennington make the leap.

Leftwich over Green? You're insane.

Iowanian
01-16-2005, 05:26 PM
Leftwich was putting up some damn good numbers before he got hurt. Green is a good QB, Not top 5 on my list. I know that must be difficult to accept goprez.

Count Zarth
01-16-2005, 05:28 PM
Leftwich was putting up some damn good numbers before he got hurt. Green is a good QB, Not top 5 on my list. I know that must be difficult to accept goprez.

It's OK if you don't want to rank Green in the top five, but ranking Leftwich ahead of him is just silly.

Look at the yards per attempt and completion percentage difference (Green +2 yards and +6 %). And Green doesn't have a Jimmy Smith.

Wile_E_Coyote
01-17-2005, 12:19 PM
Bledsoe 10 yrs 103 mil

Culpepper 10 102

Favre 10 100

Green 7 50

Manning 7 98

McNabb 12 115

Vick 8 115

Brady ? this guy needs to be payed (01-04 cap #s 1,658,000)

blsilks
01-17-2005, 12:49 PM
I guess if Pennington was the QB of the Patriots then he would be taking Brady's spot on that list since he is clearly a better QB.

Garcia Bronco
01-17-2005, 12:52 PM
McNabb
Vick
Brady
Manning
Bulger

Is my top five...with Plummer at 6. That's right.

Lbedrock1
01-17-2005, 02:28 PM
you can't pick a top 6 becuase you have a few that are so close that wouldn't be right to pick one over the other. I think what you look at is who has the top offensive line and then look at the QB's stat to really determine the top QB. Rank the O line and then the QB's stats. The Oline that is worse and has the best qb stats wins. EX. Falcons Oline rankd 15th Vick stats ranked 3rd Patriots oline ranks 8th Brady rand 2nd vick would win becuase he has to use his QB abilities more often to makeup for a line that doesn't block as well.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-17-2005, 02:32 PM
Manning (Peyton)
Culpepper
McNabb
Brady
Green
Bulger

shakesthecat
01-17-2005, 02:35 PM
Favre
Brady
Manning
McNabb
Vick
Culpepper

patteeu
01-17-2005, 02:43 PM
Brady
Manning
Culpepper
McNabb
Green
Pennington

That's the same set I picked. You are brilliant!

Thig Lyfe
01-17-2005, 02:55 PM
That's the same set I picked. You are brilliant!

Reconsider what you just said.

beavis
01-17-2005, 03:04 PM
Leftwich was putting up some damn good numbers before he got hurt. Green is a good QB, Not top 5 on my list. I know that must be difficult to accept goprez.
He earned my respect the time I saw him play that bowl game on a broken leg. His teammates actually had to carry his ass down the field after the plays. I really hope he goes big time this year.

Ari Chi3fs
01-17-2005, 03:16 PM
where is the Todd Collins option?

Rain Man
01-17-2005, 03:16 PM
I should go post this over on the Orange Mange and see if their answers would be different.

Valiant
01-17-2005, 03:26 PM
Brady doesn't have an elite WR.

I think Culpepper proved this year he wasn't just riding Randy Moss' coattails. Moss was hurt for like 6 weeks.


Brady has three great WR... and what was the vikings record without moss... thanks, come agian..

Amnorix
01-17-2005, 03:52 PM
Brady has three great WR... and what was the vikings record without moss... thanks, come agian..

Three "great" WR...?

Total Pro Bowl appearances for all Pats WRs - 1 (Troy Brown, 3 years ago, before he lost a step or two)

Total All Pro selections for all Pats WRs - zero

Total 100 catch seasons for all Pats WRs - zero

Total 1st round draft picks among Pats WRs - zero

Total 2nd round draft picks among Pats WRs - two

Total 7th or 8th round picks, or free agent pickups among Pats WRs - 3

I'm a little confused about your definition of "great".

I like our group of WRs alot, but I wouldn't put them at the top of the NFL or anything....

They're small, fast, quick and have good hands. Nothing to complain about, but it doesn't remind anyone of the Colts group, or Duper/Clayton or anything.... :shrug: