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cmh6476
01-18-2005, 12:17 PM
I'm in a fantasy league with some guys from a fantasy site. We each took an NFl team, and then had a random team from the opposite conference assigned to us. I got the Saints.

It was an IDP league (defensive players), so sucky offensive teams would have a chance as well). So then, we could only draft players from guys who have played or are playing for your fantasy team. So guys like Tony Gonzalez (only played for the Chiefs), LJ, Joe Horn (only with Chiefs and Saints), Stallworth, etc. were exzclusively mine. I could wait until the last rounds to drfat those guys.

it was the guys like priest (ravens and chiefs), donnie edwards, aaron brooks I had to fight for.

Anyways, some of us in that league made this bet where we would send something representing our team to the winner of the whole thing if we lost. I ended up winning the damn thing and got some pretty cool stuff from the Lions guy so far.

But the buffalo bills guy sent me an old NFL Topps card. Of Carlos Carson.

Who the fock is Carlos Carson? :shrug:

Los Raiders
01-18-2005, 12:19 PM
A Chief fan doesn't know who Carlos Carson is!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

BANDWAGON TURD!

cmh6476
01-18-2005, 12:19 PM
A Chief fan doesn't know who Carlos Carson is!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

BANDWAGON TURD!


looks like he went to the probowl in '87 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/CarsCa00.htm) :)

I was only born in '78 man, give me a break ;)

Los Raiders
01-18-2005, 12:20 PM
Carlos Carson was a wide receiver for the Chumps in the 1980s. He had 3 1000 yd receiving seasons and was selected to the Pro Bowl in 1987.

siberian khatru
01-18-2005, 12:21 PM
I guess I'll skip the Henry Marshall joke.

Phobia
01-18-2005, 12:22 PM
LSU alum. He runs a bunch of McDonalds in the metro area currently.

DanT
01-18-2005, 12:24 PM
He was a good receiver for us.


Seasons among the league's top 10
Receptions: 1983-5
Receiving yards: 1983-2, 1987-4
Receiving TDs: 1987-7t

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/CarsCa00.htm

Los Raiders
01-18-2005, 12:25 PM
LSU alum. He runs a bunch of McDonalds in the metro area currently.


Remember when David Woodley used to throw bombs to Carson down on the bayou in Baton Rogue?

Skip Towne
01-18-2005, 12:27 PM
I remember Stephone Paige too.

cmh6476
01-18-2005, 12:29 PM
He was a good receiver for us.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/CarsCa00.htm
we could use someone like that now :(

Phobia
01-18-2005, 12:29 PM
Remember when David Woodley used to throw bombs to Carson down on the bayou in Baton Rogue?

I don't. I remember when you used to troll. Are you about through with all that?

siberian khatru
01-18-2005, 12:30 PM
Remember when David Woodley used to throw bombs to Carson down on the bayou in Baton Rogue?

As an MU fan, I seem to recall Carson playing against us in the 1978 Liberty Bowl. Pretty sure Carlos was with LSU then.

Los Raiders
01-18-2005, 12:30 PM
I remember Stephone Paige too.

But do you remember Henry Marshall, J.T. Smith and Otis Taylor c0cksucker?

Chief Henry
01-18-2005, 12:54 PM
LSU alum. He runs a bunch of McDonalds in the metro area currently.


Didn't know that. Is he a part owner in them or is he in managment?

Chief Henry
01-18-2005, 12:55 PM
But do you remember Henry Marshall, J.T. Smith and Otis Taylor c0cksucker?


Come hear and eat my booger you dickface.

Phobia
01-18-2005, 01:09 PM
Didn't know that. Is he a part owner in them or is he in managment?

Assume both, but I don't actually know. WeirdWolf knows him, so he'd probably be able to say.

Skip Towne
01-18-2005, 01:20 PM
But do you remember Henry Marshall, J.T. Smith and Otis Taylor c0cksucker?
But of course shit-for-brains.

go bowe
01-18-2005, 02:10 PM
But of course shit-for-brains.heh, you give him too much credit...

wutamess
01-18-2005, 02:16 PM
I remember Bill Kenney.Dino Hackett, Irv Eatman, Bill Maas, Dave Lutz... That's about all I can remember at this point. We had a big bruiser TE at the time.

KC Jones
01-18-2005, 02:24 PM
I remember Bill Kenney.Dino Hackett, Irv Eatman, Bill Maas, Dave Lutz... That's about all I can remember at this point. We had a big bruiser TE at the time.

My sister dated Irv for a while when I was in high school.

He was a rather large individual.

DanT
01-18-2005, 02:37 PM
Stephone Paige, Carson's teammate, got 309 yards at Arrowhead one game in 1985 against the Chargers on 8 catches. I worked that game as a food vendor. Those were the years in which there were a lot of empty seats.

That 309-yard game is still in the record books. It's the most receiving yards in a non-OT game:

http://www.nfl.com/history/randf/records/indiv/yards

Most Scrimmage Yards, Game
336 Flipper Anderson, L.A. Rams vs. New Orleans, Nov. 26, 1989 (OT) (336 rec.)
330 Billy Cannon, Houston vs. N.Y. Titans, Dec. 10, 1961 (216 rush., 114 rec.)
309 Stephone Paige, Kansas City vs. San Diego, Dec. 22, 1985 (309 rec.)


1985: Kansas City's Stephone Paige has the NFL's first 300-yard receiving day in 40 years, finishing with 309 on eight catches in a 38-34 victory vs. San Diego.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/century/122299.htm

siberian khatru
01-18-2005, 02:40 PM
I remember Bill Kenney.Dino Hackett, Irv Eatman, Bill Maas, Dave Lutz... That's about all I can remember at this point. We had a big bruiser TE at the time.

Ed Beckman?

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 02:40 PM
Carlos Carson was the MAN! Imagine a Chiefs WR who actually makes the PRO-BOWL! Come on... you gotta know who CC is!

Next you're gonna tell me you've never heard of Willie Davis, or Lake Dawson or Danan Hughes....


:cuss:

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 02:41 PM
Ed Beckman?
Jonathon Hayes.

Bowser
01-18-2005, 02:41 PM
Carlos Carson was the MAN! Imagine a Chiefs WR who actually makes the PRO-BOWL! Come on... you gotta know who CC is!

Next you're gonna tell me you've never heard of Willie Davis, or Lake Dawson or Danan Hughes....


:cuss:

Tim Barnett was a street thug.

siberian khatru
01-18-2005, 02:43 PM
Jonathon Hayes.

I tend not to associate him with Kenney, Hackett, Maas and Lutz. I think of Hayes as early 90s, and those other guys as mid-80s.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 02:43 PM
Tim Barnett was a street thug.
Ah yes............Tim Barnett.........white WR's so seldom work out long term.

DanT
01-18-2005, 02:44 PM
Here's the Chiefs home attendance information for the last 7 seasons that Carson spent with the team:
http://www.kenn.com/sports/football/nfl/nfl_kcc_attendance.html

Team Year G Total Average
Kansas City Chiefs 1983 8 372,794 46,599
Kansas City Chiefs 1984 8 371,317 46,415
Kansas City Chiefs 1985 8 358,158 44,770
Kansas City Chiefs 1986 8 385,335 48,167
Kansas City Chiefs 1987 7 282,018 40,288
Kansas City Chiefs 1988 8 406,249 50,781
Kansas City Chiefs 1989 8 487,056 60,882

Bowser
01-18-2005, 02:45 PM
I tend not to associate him with Kenney, Hackett, Maas and Lutz. I think of Hayes as early 90s, and those other guys as mid-80s.

I think they made a character in Necessary Roghness based on Hayes.

"DON'T THROW IT TO STONEHANDS!!!"

donkhater
01-18-2005, 02:45 PM
Ah yes............Tim Barnett.........white WR's so seldom work out long term.
Sean LaChapelle Baby!!!

siberian khatru
01-18-2005, 02:46 PM
I tend not to associate him with Kenney, Hackett, Maas and Lutz. I think of Hayes as early 90s, and those other guys as mid-80s.

I just checked, and it probably was Hayes he was talking about -- Hayes played longer than I thought with KC, starting in the early 80s; Beckman's career ended after 84. Still, it's weird that I'd think of Beckman and not Hayes.

cmh6476
01-18-2005, 02:47 PM
Carlos Carson was the MAN! Imagine a Chiefs WR who actually makes the PRO-BOWL! Come on... you gotta know who CC is!

Next you're gonna tell me you've never heard of Willie Davis, or Lake Dawson or Danan Hughes....


:cuss:and jj birden :thumb:

siberian khatru
01-18-2005, 02:48 PM
and jj birden :thumb:

And Fred Jones.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 02:48 PM
Here's the Chiefs home attendance information for the last 7 seasons that Carson spent with the team:
http://www.kenn.com/sports/football/nfl/nfl_kcc_attendance.html

Team Year G Total Average
Kansas City Chiefs 1983 8 372,794 46,599
Kansas City Chiefs 1984 8 371,317 46,415
Kansas City Chiefs 1985 8 358,158 44,770
Kansas City Chiefs 1986 8 385,335 48,167
Kansas City Chiefs 1987 7 282,018 40,288
Kansas City Chiefs 1988 8 406,249 50,781
Kansas City Chiefs 1989 8 487,056 60,882

I remember seeing "highlights" of a game on tv where there were 11,000 people. I remember the sportscaster saying "there's the 11 people who came to the game...actually it was about 11,000." I felt slightly ashamed for some reason. I was very young and just coming into being a fan. I actually thought Gary Spani and Gary Barbaro were great players who could take us to the Super-Bowl.

:spock:

wutamess
01-18-2005, 02:48 PM
Yeah it was Jonathan Hayes.

wutamess
01-18-2005, 02:49 PM
Wasn't Saxson the RB?

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 02:50 PM
and jj birden :thumb:
jj was the shit....

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 02:51 PM
Sean LaChapelle Baby!!!
wow....there's a blast from......somewhere.......

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 02:52 PM
Wasn't Saxson the RB?
I believe so. We were quite the offensive juggernaut.

ChiefsCountry
01-18-2005, 02:56 PM
Tim Barnett was black you were thinking of Robb Thomas.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 02:58 PM
Tim Barnett was black you were thinking of Robb Thomas.
You're right.....my bad.

DanT
01-18-2005, 03:01 PM
I remember seeing "highlights" of a game on tv where there were 11,000 people. I remember the sportscaster saying "there's the 11 people who came to the game...actually it was about 11,000." I felt slightly ashamed for some reason. I was very young and just coming into being a fan. I actually thought Gary Spani and Gary Barbaro were great players who could take us to the Super-Bowl.

:spock:

Yeah, I may have worked that game, too. In 1982, there was a NFL strike. The late-season games that year were not well attended at Arrowhead. I missed the Jets game that year because of car trouble, but that sparsely attended game could have been against the 49ers or the Raiders. If I recall correctly, there weren't many fans at that Raiders game and the Raiders won late in the 4th-quarter, but my memory might be wrong. Here's the 1982 entry in the Chiefs War Room:
http://chiefswarroom.net/kcwarroom/1982.shtml

go bowe
01-18-2005, 03:01 PM
You're right.....my bad.your "bad"?

just a little bad, or really naughty?

gblowfish
01-18-2005, 03:07 PM
Carlos Carson was one of Bill Kenney's favorite receivers in the 1980's. He played during he same era with Henry Marshall (from Mizzou) and Stephone Paige. He was on the smallish size, kind of like Santana Moss is now for the NY Jets. Good speed, deep threat. Played for a lot of mediocre teams. Chiefs usually went 6-10 up to around 8-8 during those years. He had a better than average NFL career. I don't think he played anywhere else (and if so not for long) after he left the Chiefs, so he was pretty much a career Chiefs player. I also believe he was a number one draft pick out of LSU, but I'd have to go back to the record book and check that.

Bowser
01-18-2005, 03:09 PM
Carlos Carson was one of Bill Kenney's favorite receivers in the 1980's. He played during he same era with Henry Marshall (from Mizzou) and Stephone Paige. He was on the smallish size, kind of like Santana Moss is now for the NY Jets. Good speed, deep threat. Played for a lot of mediocre teams. Chiefs usually went 6-10 up to around 8-8 during those years. He had a better than average NFL career. I don't think he played anywhere else (and if so not for long) after he left the Chiefs, so he was pretty much a career Chiefs player. I also believe he was a number one draft pick out of LSU, but I'd have to go back to the record book and check that.

I think he played in Minneesoota with Jaycie Pearson for a year or two.

Phobia
01-18-2005, 03:14 PM
I also believe he was a number one draft pick out of LSU, but I'd have to go back to the record book and check that.

No. 4th round selection the year before Joe Delaney went in the 2nd.

wutamess
01-18-2005, 03:16 PM
Jayice pearson, Albert, Lewis, Derron Cherry, Dino Hackett, Kevin Ross.

Those were the days.

And then Derrick from Alabama came on the scene.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 03:18 PM
http://chiefswarroom.net/kcwarroom/1982.shtml
Wow....James Hadnot. There's a name I hadn't thought of in a long time.

gblowfish
01-18-2005, 03:21 PM
Chiefs site's stats haven't been updated after 2004 season. But as of end of 2003, here's some stuff on Carlos:

Years played for KC: 1980-1989
He was a 5th round pick in 1980.
Years with 1,000+ yards: 3 years (that's best in KC history)
Had a streak of 44 straight games catching at least 1 pass from 1981-1985.
Had 80 catches in 1983, best year for a wide out, only Tony G has had more in a single year. And he's in the top five of total yards receiving in a career for the Chiefs with 6360 yards.

I think Henry Marshall was a 3rd rounder in 1976 and Anthony Hancock was a first round pick (in like 1982?) at receiver, have to go back and check the draft records. If they got Carlos in the 5th round, that's a damn good pick. I'm not sure where they picked Stephone Paige, but he was a free agent walk-on, like Derron Cherry, I think.

DanT
01-18-2005, 03:34 PM
...I was very young and just coming into being a fan. I actually thought Gary Spani and Gary Barbaro were great players who could take us to the Super-Bowl.

:spock:

For me, that's what being a fan is all about. Misguided hope. :thumb:

DTLB58
01-18-2005, 04:41 PM
Who the Fock was Carlos Carson?

Probably better than any WR we have now. Yep, I remeber his name being called on the radio all the time, back when there was no satellite and the Chiefs were never on tv in northern Iowa but I would spend sunday in my dads car in the garage listening to the games on radio. :)

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-18-2005, 04:44 PM
For me, that's what being a fan is all about. Misguided hope. :thumb:
Sadly true.

DTLB58
01-18-2005, 04:45 PM
A little more on Carlos :)

Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1980 kan | 16 | 2 41 20.5 0 | 5 68 13.6 0 |
| 1981 kan | 5 | 1 -1 -1.0 0 | 7 179 25.6 1 |
| 1982 kan | 9 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 27 494 18.3 2 |
| 1983 kan | 16 | 2 20 10.0 0 | 80 1351 16.9 7 |
| 1984 kan | 16 | 1 -8 -8.0 0 | 57 1078 18.9 4 |
| 1985 kan | 15 | 3 25 8.3 0 | 47 843 17.9 4 |
| 1986 kan | 10 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 21 497 23.7 4 |
| 1987 kan | 12 | 1 -7 -7.0 0 | 55 1044 19.0 7 |
| 1988 kan | 14 | 1 1 1.0 0 | 46 711 15.5 3 |
| 1989 kan | 7 | 1 -9 -9.0 0 | 7 95 13.6 1 |
| 1989 phi | 6 | 1 -9 -9.0 0 | 1 12 12.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 126 | 13 53 4.1 0 | 353 6372 18.1 33 |