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DaKCMan AP
03-01-2005, 10:04 AM
on now.

Adam "Pac Man" Jones will not workout today

KevB
03-01-2005, 10:05 AM
on now.

Adam "Pac Man" Jones will not workout today

Punk. He's been talking all that smack about running a 4.2something, and he doesn't even have the balls to work out.

tyton75
03-01-2005, 10:35 AM
thats it?!? anyone going to give us at work an update?!?

DaKCMan AP
03-01-2005, 10:35 AM
Marlin Jackson ran unofficial 4.59 and they were saying he might play safety in NFL.

Didn't see Rogers or Rolle

Mr. Laz
03-01-2005, 10:45 AM
browner ran a 4.59

imo that will drop his stock considering he's raw too



i don't see us taking him like a few mocks have said

Mr. Laz
03-01-2005, 10:47 AM
Marlin Jackson ran unofficial 4.59 and they were saying he might play safety in NFL.

Didn't see Rogers or Rolle

imo that hurts jackson alot too ... his big hook was real big, real fast



now he's "free safety material"

Coach
03-01-2005, 10:50 AM
Interesting... I think, based on the performances so far on CB's/DB's, that getting either Surtain or Rolle would be a better choice, and go for a LB or a DE on the first pick.

Chiefnj
03-01-2005, 10:51 AM
Niether Rolle nor Adams are working out.

eazyb81
03-01-2005, 10:57 AM
Interesting... I think, based on the performances so far on CB's/DB's, that getting either Surtain or Rolle would be a better choice, and go for a LB or a DE on the first pick.

I agree, I would rather sign a free agent CB like Surtain or Rolle and then draft a passrushing DE like Justin Tuck to challenge Hicks for a starting spot (or at the least sub in for him on 3rd down). Of course, trading up a few spots and picking Derrick Johnson wouldn't upset me...

DaKCMan AP
03-01-2005, 11:04 AM
Derrick Johnson participated/is participating in all workouts/drills today. No numbers on him yet.

Mr. Laz
03-01-2005, 11:06 AM
Interesting... I think, based on the performances so far on CB's/DB's, that getting either Surtain or Rolle would be a better choice, and go for a LB or a DE on the first pick.

wasn't this your opinion before today's DB results?

DaKCMan AP
03-01-2005, 11:07 AM
just showed gunther and dv paying attention to the db workouts

Coach
03-01-2005, 11:08 AM
wasn't this your opinion before today's DB results?

Yes. Because the fact that if you throw in a rookie CB in today's game, especially this no-contact rule that was applied more seriously than the games in past, then most likely the rookie would struggle.

Plus a team's secondary is only good as the front 4 and 7, based on putting pressure on the QB.

Coach
03-01-2005, 11:10 AM
wasn't this your opinion before today's DB results?

I like the deal. In my opinion, Surtain would be a better pick-up than Ty Law because he is younger (29) than Law (31), he will probably be a little bit cheaper, and there are no injury questions to worry about with Surtain. Giving up a second round pick for a player of this caliber is worth it and it also gives us an opportunity to spend our first round pick on another position. With the changes in the rules last season, I just can't see us spending a 1st round pick on a rookie CB, when we have so many other problems on defense. I just hope we are still able to pick up some quality linebackers and/or a pass rusher.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=110874&page=8

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DaKCMan AP
03-01-2005, 11:18 AM
There's a guy on the field wearing a chiefs sweater (i'm guessing a scout) who's running on eo fthe drills right now with kevin ross (db coach for vikings)

warpaint99
03-01-2005, 11:20 AM
What are the 40 times on the top 10 Corners in the NFL ?

Mr. Laz
03-01-2005, 11:24 AM
Interesting... I think, based on the performances so far on CB's/DB's, that getting either Surtain or Rolle would be a better choice, and go for a LB or a DE on the first pick.Yes. Because the fact that if you throw in a rookie CB in today's game, especially this no-contact rule that was applied more seriously than the games in past, then most likely the rookie would struggle.

Plus a team's secondary is only good as the front 4 and 7, based on putting pressure on the QB.

just wondering ... because you made it seem like the DB results led you to your conclusion ... when it was really your conclusion all along.

Mr. Laz
03-01-2005, 11:26 AM
What are the 40 times on the top 10 Corners in the NFL ?

they don't time the cornerbacks, in the 40, once they get into the league.

Mr. Laz
03-01-2005, 11:27 AM
There's a guy on the field wearing a chiefs sweater (i'm guessing a scout) who's running on eo fthe drills right now with kevin ross (db coach for vikings)

tell me again why Ross isn't our secondary coach??

Frankie
03-01-2005, 11:49 AM
Any word on Eric Green?

htismaqe
03-01-2005, 11:56 AM
tell me again why Ross isn't our secondary coach??

Considering how good the Vikes have been lately, I don't think I'd call Ross an upgrade.

Mr. Laz
03-01-2005, 01:25 PM
Any word on Eric Green?

ran slow... both times IIRC


4.59 and 4.63 (just going by memory)



he looked disappointed afterwards

htismaqe
03-01-2005, 01:29 PM
ran slow... both times IIRC


4.59 and 4.63 (just going by memory)



he looked disappointed afterwards

Wait.

I'm starting to see a pattern.

Is ANYBODY running a fast 40? It seems to me everybody is running slow...

Bowser
03-01-2005, 01:33 PM
Wait.

I'm starting to see a pattern.

Is ANYBODY running a fast 40? It seems to me everybody is running slow...

Not many. Let me go find it......

Bowser
03-01-2005, 01:38 PM
Wait.

I'm starting to see a pattern.

Is ANYBODY running a fast 40? It seems to me everybody is running slow...

This isn't the page I found, but it gives you an idea of what's happening.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/8242024

Chiefnj
03-01-2005, 01:41 PM
I thought a lot of linebackers were running in the 4.6 range which is decent for a LB.

It's funny Brandt is saying D Johnson ran a 4.56, but when you watched the NFLNetwork live they had him at 4.65.

Coach
03-01-2005, 05:34 PM
just wondering ... because you made it seem like the DB results led you to your conclusion ... when it was really your conclusion all along.

I don't blame you. I haven't been on the planet lately due to some personal issues that needed my attention first, so.

But yeah, that's my reasoning there, is that a experienced CB would do better than a rookie CB right now as of this moment.