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blackhawk
03-02-2005, 12:00 PM
Chiefs | Harts Receives Offer - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:31:53 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs have tendered a one-year, $656,000 offer to restricted free agent S Shaunard Harts.


Chiefs | Boerigter Receives Offer - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:31:04 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs have tendered a one-year, $656,000 offer to restricted free agent WR Marc Boerigter.


Chiefs | Fujita Receives Offer - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:30:13 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs have tendered a one-year, $656,000 offer to restricted free agent LB Scott Fujita.

siberian khatru
03-02-2005, 12:03 PM
Why all the same salary? Is that league minumum or something? (pardon my ignorance)

Rausch
03-02-2005, 12:04 PM
I really don't think it's a great idea to lowball our OLB when we're already needing starters at MLB and OLB on the other side.

While Fuj isn't a probowl player he's solid.

KCTitus
03-02-2005, 12:04 PM
Why all the same salary? Is that league minumum or something? (pardon my ignorance)

yes..vet minimum.

htismaqe
03-02-2005, 12:05 PM
Yeah, I believe that's the minimum.

keg in kc
03-02-2005, 12:06 PM
I really don't think it's a great idea to lowball our OLB when we're already needing starters at MLB and OLB on the other side.

While Fuj isn't a probowl player he's solid.That's not lowballing him, that's the midlevel tender, where'd we have right of first refusal and would recoup a draft pick if he goes. I don't think he requires the top-level one.

jspchief
03-02-2005, 12:10 PM
So Fujita is of the same value to us as a back-up safety? Seems like an insulting offer to me.

Kclee
03-02-2005, 12:15 PM
So Fujita is of the same value to us as a back-up safety? Seems like an insulting offer to me.



No one on D can feel insulted. They all collected paychecks last year. Fortunate is more like it.

Clint in Wichita
03-02-2005, 12:15 PM
So Fujita is of the same value to us as a back-up safety? Seems like an insulting offer to me.


If another FS isn't found, Harts should take Woods' starting job away next season. Permanently.

keg in kc
03-02-2005, 12:15 PM
So Fujita is of the same value to us as a back-up safety? Seems like an insulting offer to me.It's not a matter of making an offer, the different level tenders are established by the NFL. It's sort of a smaller version of a franchise or transition tag.

tiptap
03-02-2005, 12:20 PM
That's not lowballing him, that's the midlevel tender, where'd we have right of first refusal and would recoup a draft pick if he goes. I don't think he requires the top-level one.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=1743706

. . . Restricted free agency: From March 2 through a week before the draft, players with three years of experience can shop their services, but teams that sign them may have to pay a price related to the round in which the player was picked when he came into the league. For example, a former third-round choice requires third-round compensation from the signing team. Teams that are losing a player, though, have a week to match a restricted offer sheet. Restricted free agents are offered a one-year tender at $656,000. Teams can further restrict movement of these players by increasing the tenders. By offering $1.430 million, the team can't lose that player unless they receive a first-round choice. For $1.906 million, the team puts the player's price at first- and third-round choices. A more exclusive tender has been created to prevent movement of a player with three years experience. It's rarely used, but it would count $2.406 million against the cap. . . . .

cmh6476
03-02-2005, 12:20 PM
I like these offers, and like the fact they're not offering Easy a contract :thumb:

buddha
03-02-2005, 12:21 PM
Don't mistake approaching average, for "solid". Who was "solid" on that defense last year, and how would anybody know?

Nobody from that group deserves a raise! Get serious.

keg in kc
03-02-2005, 12:24 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=1743706

. . . Restricted free agency: From March 2 through a week before the draft, players with three years of experience can shop their services, but teams that sign them may have to pay a price related to the round in which the player was picked when he came into the league. For example, a former third-round choice requires third-round compensation from the signing team. Teams that are losing a player, though, have a week to match a restricted offer sheet. Restricted free agents are offered a one-year tender at $656,000. Teams can further restrict movement of these players by increasing the tenders. By offering $1.430 million, the team can't lose that player unless they receive a first-round choice. For $1.906 million, the team puts the player's price at first- and third-round choices. A more exclusive tender has been created to prevent movement of a player with three years experience. It's rarely used, but it would count $2.406 million against the cap. . . . .Exactly.

Thanks for posting that, I was in the process of looking up something like that myself.

jspchief
03-02-2005, 12:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=1743706

. . . Restricted free agency: From March 2 through a week before the draft, players with three years of experience can shop their services, but teams that sign them may have to pay a price related to the round in which the player was picked when he came into the league. For example, a former third-round choice requires third-round compensation from the signing team. Teams that are losing a player, though, have a week to match a restricted offer sheet. Restricted free agents are offered a one-year tender at $656,000. Teams can further restrict movement of these players by increasing the tenders. By offering $1.430 million, the team can't lose that player unless they receive a first-round choice. For $1.906 million, the team puts the player's price at first- and third-round choices. A more exclusive tender has been created to prevent movement of a player with three years experience. It's rarely used, but it would count $2.406 million against the cap. . . . .

Great info. Rep.

So does that mean that Fujita can't turn the offer down? And if he can't, the only way he doesn't get paid that tender is if some other team aggressivley pursues him, correct?

KCTitus
03-02-2005, 12:30 PM
So Fujita is of the same value to us as a back-up safety? Seems like an insulting offer to me.

Well, that's Carl for ya!

Kclee
03-02-2005, 12:32 PM
I like these offers, and like the fact they're not offering Easy a contract :thumb:


Lets all have a moment of silence out of respect for Titus.

keg in kc
03-02-2005, 12:32 PM
Great info. Rep.

So does that mean that Fujita can't turn the offer down? And if he can't, the only way he doesn't get paid that tender is if some other team aggressivley pursues him, correct?I'm under the assumption that Fujita has to agree to and sign the tender offer. Once he does that, his agent can try to market him to other teams. Basically, he's a chief for one more season (until UFA) at that offer unless another team structures a contract that we can't or won't meet, in which case we'd recoup a 5th round pick.

jspchief
03-02-2005, 12:37 PM
I'm under the assumption that Fujita has to agree to and sign the tender offer. Once he does that, his agent can try to market him to other teams. Basically, he's a chief for one more season (until UFA) at that offer unless another team structures a contract that we can't or won't meet, in which case we'd recoup a 5th round pick.

Okay, good. I hope we can keep him. Losing him after locking up all those bums last year would piss me off.

KCTitus
03-02-2005, 12:39 PM
I like these offers, and like the fact they're not offering Easy a contract :thumb:

Im riding a rollercoaster of emotions today...the loss of Easy would be devastating!!!!!1111oneone

keg in kc
03-02-2005, 12:41 PM
Okay, good. I hope we can keep him. Losing him after locking up all those bums last year would piss me off.I'm not sure if you remember, but when we tried to sign Warrick Holdman from Chicago a few years ago, he was a RFA under a tender like Fujita's. What we tried to do (and failed) was to structure a contract with a so-called "poison pill" bonus package that the Bears wouldn't want to match. They did, of course.

I just don't think Fujita is someone that will be pursued by too many other squads. We sign RFAs like this every year, and keep them all.

cmh6476
03-02-2005, 12:59 PM
Im riding a rollercoaster of emotions today...the loss of Easy would be devastating!!!!!1111oneone


http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/11009571.htm

The Chiefs plan to tender contract offers to three of their potential restricted free agents. Linebacker Scott Fujita, wide receiver Marc Boerigter and safety Shaunard Harts will receive one-year offers for $656,000.

Each offer would give the Chiefs the right of first refusal if the player signs an offer sheet with another club.

The Chiefs weren't planning to offer a contract to a fourth potential restricted free agent, fullback Omar Easy.

:(

Kclee
03-02-2005, 01:08 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/11009571.htm



:(


Dude, all that stuff dripping off your moniter.... that's sarcasim.

cmh6476
03-02-2005, 01:10 PM
oh :|