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HolmeZz
03-03-2005, 02:20 PM
Rumored to be a 14 million dollar signing bonus.

This cornerback market is ridiculous. :banghead:

Mile High Mania
03-03-2005, 02:22 PM
Damn...

HolmeZz
03-03-2005, 02:22 PM
A mod can fix the title; it was actually reported by Jay Glazer on Fox.

beer bacon
03-03-2005, 02:22 PM
Those whoresons.

Joe Seahawk
03-03-2005, 02:24 PM
He's way under rated IMO.. I'm not all that suprised by the deal.. dissapointed? yes.. Suprised ? No..

Coach
03-03-2005, 02:25 PM
Panthers | Lucas Agrees to Terms on Six-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:10:07 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Carolina Panthers have agreed to terms with CB Ken Lucas (Seahawks) on a contract. KFFL has learned Lucas has agreed to a six-year deal with the team. Complete financial details have yet to be disclosed, but the deal is believed to average $8 million per year over the first two years. The deal is also believed to have a split bonus and will total $13.5 to $14 million over those two years in bonus money.

Mr. Laz
03-03-2005, 02:26 PM
dam ... he was my sleeper cornerback that i hoped we end up with.


:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Miles
03-03-2005, 02:26 PM
So much for that CB's should be worth less on the market after last season theory. Im starting to get very pessimistic about out chances of landing a CB.

dirk digler
03-03-2005, 02:26 PM
The CB market is dwindling down so the Chiefs better make a move now before it is to late.

Warrior5
03-03-2005, 02:26 PM
Guess I'm totally behind signing Rolle now.


...really wanted Lucas in R&G.

HolmeZz
03-03-2005, 02:26 PM
Thanks, c0ach.

HolmeZz
03-03-2005, 02:27 PM
Not sure what made Carolina make this move; Gamble and Manning were a pretty good 1 and 2 corner-combo.

Bootlegged
03-03-2005, 02:28 PM
at least my 2nd team is doing well in FA. Wahle and Lucas is a damn good day.

keg in kc
03-03-2005, 02:29 PM
Jesus, I like Lucas, but $14 million guaranteed? That's probably upped Rolle, Smoot and Surtain into the 17-20 million neighborhood. That idiot Cowboy contract to Henry really has f*cked everyone.

Chiefnj
03-03-2005, 02:29 PM
So much for the theory that with the new rule enforcement the importance of top notch corners would diminish and diminish their market value.

Rolle and Surtain are going to want more money than Lucas.

All of a sudden Dallas' 10 million bonus yesterday looks like a good deal.

Bootlegged
03-03-2005, 02:29 PM
Not sure what made Carolina make this move; Gamble and Manning were a pretty good 1 and 2 corner-combo.

Manning had a good rookie year, but not so much last year. Pretty solid 3 deep though.

Mr. Laz
03-03-2005, 02:30 PM
Not sure what made Carolina make this move; Gamble and Manning were a pretty good 1 and 2 corner-combo.

you really need to be 3 deep and i think Carolina really prefers Manning at the nickle.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-03-2005, 02:31 PM
There's a line between being quick and hurrying, it's time to move steady, lets say....

HolmeZz
03-03-2005, 02:31 PM
This is why we should've made sure we locked up Rolle as soon as we could.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-03-2005, 02:32 PM
Not sure what made Carolina make this move; Gamble and Manning were a pretty good 1 and 2 corner-combo.

Uh that's why they've been to the Super Bowl recently...

Joe Seahawk
03-03-2005, 02:33 PM
Jesus, I like Lucas, but $14 million guaranteed? That's probably upped Rolle, Smoot and Surtain into the 17-20 million neighborhood. That idiot Cowboy contract to Henry really has f*cked everyone.


I don't think it will boost Smoot that high..Here is a stat comparison..

Fred Smoot's 4yr Career Stats:
16 Interceptions
212 Total Tackles
48 passes defensed

Ken Lucas' 4yr Career Stats:
11 Interceptions
260 Total Tackles
49 passes defensed

Lucas's numbers would have been higher than Smoot's if he would have started as many games as Smoot.. Shawn Springs kept Lucas on the bench for much of his first 2 seasons.

jspchief
03-03-2005, 02:33 PM
I'm trying to keep a level head, but honestly, I'm getting nervous. The combination price and the rate these guys are getting snatched up is making me sweat.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-03-2005, 02:33 PM
Are Rolle, Hartwell, and Trotter still in KC?

ChiefsCountry
03-03-2005, 02:35 PM
Chiefs will get Law. Just watch. He will be pissed off at everybody and have a good year.

Bootlegged
03-03-2005, 02:35 PM
Panthers land coveted offensive lineman

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The Carolina Panthers made what's likely to be their biggest splash of free agency Thursday, agreeing to contract terms with offensive lineman Mike Wahle.

Terms of the deal weren't available immediately, but it's believed Wahle was seeking a signing bonus in excess of $10 million.

After spending the first seven years of his career with Green Bay, Wahle, 27, was released by the Packers in a salary cap move earlier this week.

Considered by many to be the top free agent offensive lineman, Wahle can play guard or tackle. It remains unclear where the Panthers plan to use Wahle, but they have pressing needs at right tackle and right guard.

Wahle, 6-foot-6 and 304 pounds, had his best years with the Packers at left guard, but played left tackle early in his career. The Panthers had problems on the right side of their line last season. Right tackle Adam Meadows retired in training camp and Matt Willig and Todd Fordham struggled to replace him. Right guard Tutan Reyes was inconsistent in his first season as a starter.

Wahle has started 83 of 97 games in his career and hasn't missed a start since 2000. Last season, according to Stats Inc., Wahle allowed two sacks and was called for three false starts and two holding penalties.

The Panthers also have agreed to terms with cornerback Ken Lucas, who was with Seattle last season, on a six-year contract with a signing bonus of roughly $13 million.

HolmeZz
03-03-2005, 02:35 PM
Uh that's why they've been to the Super Bowl recently...

I know. I don't follow Carolina, but I would've thought they had other weaknesses that needed to be addressed, and throwing 14 million at a corner who, IMO, isn't a 'shut down' guy is not something I'd be willing to do. Good pickup for them though, along with acquiring Wahle earlier.

KCChiefsMan
03-03-2005, 02:36 PM
there is a high market for corners right now, Carl at least has a history of giving a lot of money to CBs, so he needs to get a damn deal done with Rolle or Smoot!

beer bacon
03-03-2005, 02:36 PM
Are Rolle, Hartwell, and Trotter still in KC?

As of the last update on 610 Am less then a half hour ago they are.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-03-2005, 02:37 PM
And like I said a couple days ago, if not already, pretty soon a $14 million signing bonus will be a bargain in the NFL, the way they keep rising year to year. Looks like we're going to have to open up the check book this year, there's no choice, it's like going to the bathroom...you have to do it. Yeah...we'll see. We'll see indeed.

1adam1238
03-03-2005, 02:39 PM
I guess after last season, I'm not convinced of any agressive attitude yet..........time will tell

Bill Lundberg
03-03-2005, 02:59 PM
This is going to get ridiculous if Lucas gets this type of money what do you think Rolle and Law will command??? The longer we wait the less chances we have of getting the guys we want without paying out the ass.


Panthers | Lucas Agrees to Terms on Six-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:10:07 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Carolina Panthers have agreed to terms with CB Ken Lucas (Seahawks) on a contract. KFFL has learned Lucas has agreed to a six-year deal with the team. Complete financial details have yet to be disclosed, but the deal is believed to average $8 million per year over the first two years. The deal is also believed to have a split bonus and will total $13.5 to $14 million over those two years in bonus money.

Bootlegged
03-03-2005, 03:00 PM
Ummm, yeah.....you're a little late with this news, mmmkay? Thanks!

keg in kc
03-03-2005, 03:01 PM
I suddenly have a good feeling about Rolle. I don't know why, however.

Bill Lundberg
03-03-2005, 03:02 PM
Oops. I looked and missed that one... My bad.

siberian khatru
03-03-2005, 03:02 PM
I suddenly have a good feeling about Rolle. I don't know why, however.

Maybe if you'd stop rubbing yourself it would go away.

keg in kc
03-03-2005, 03:03 PM
Maybe if you'd stop rubbing yourself it would go away.Both hands are on the keyboard, my friend. No rubbing here.