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Mile High Mania
03-04-2005, 09:39 PM
I was reading updates on KFFL and in one post, it states that John Clayton claims the Bills are $652,000 under the cap.

Then, 2 updates later you learn that the Bills signed QB Holcomb to compete with Losman for 4 years $6.6M and a $2M bonus.

BigRedChief
03-04-2005, 09:41 PM
It's widely assumed that Clayton's #'s come from the NFLPA.

Mr. Laz
03-04-2005, 09:43 PM
well i think they mostly get the information from all the players contracts from the players association.

all extensions etc have to be reported to them


but the salary cap is a VERY fluid thing ... you can restructure and rework and sign extensions.

a good capologist can make the salary cap for a team dance the hula IF THE OWNER AND GM WANT him to.

it takes a certain amount of financial commitment and risk to work the cap like that.

Dayze
03-04-2005, 09:43 PM
I was reading updates on KFFL and in one post, it states that John Clayton claims the Bills are $652,000 under the cap.

Then, 2 updates later you learn that the Bills signed QB Holcomb to compete with Losman for 4 years $6.6M and a $2M bonus.

the cap comes from the same place as the "Bomber Gap" of the 80's and tne "Missile Gap" of the 60's.

Phooey.

Hercules Rockefell
03-04-2005, 09:46 PM
I was reading updates on KFFL and in one post, it states that John Clayton claims the Bills are $652,000 under the cap.

Then, 2 updates later you learn that the Bills signed QB Holcomb to compete with Losman for 4 years $6.6M and a $2M bonus.

Because Clayton's numbers aren't that great. A Buffalo fan at KFFL said they went from $7M under to Clayton's figure and made 0 moves.

Denver's number is wrong too unless everything that the Post and Rocky said for the last month was incorrect.

Mile High Mania
03-04-2005, 09:49 PM
It just makes me laugh that I could ask 10 different people "in the know" about a team's cap, and you would get 10 different answers.

1adam1238
03-04-2005, 09:52 PM
I am the same way...this salary cap crap doesn't mean much......look at this entry on KFFL:

Chiefs | Holliday Cap Savings - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:53:59 -0800

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the Kansas City Chiefs saved $6.225 million against the 2005 salary cap by releasing DE Vonnie Holliday.

Mr. Laz
03-04-2005, 09:52 PM
It just makes me laugh that I could ask 10 different people "in the know" about a team's cap, and you would get 10 different answers.
ya... im not sure how much of the bonus information is available. That can make a considerable difference.

Mr. Laz
03-04-2005, 09:54 PM
I am the same way...this salary cap crap doesn't mean much......look at this entry on KFFL:

Chiefs | Holliday Cap Savings - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:53:59 -0800

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the Kansas City Chiefs saved $6.225 million against the 2005 salary cap by releasing DE Vonnie Holliday.

vonnie holliday had a big roster bonus due this year... 5 million IIRC.

the chiefs also saved 1+ million with his base salary

6 million in savings sounds about right

keg in kc
03-04-2005, 09:55 PM
It was a lot easier to track a few years ago, there was a lot more (free) information readily available. Nowadays I don't even bother.

morphius
03-04-2005, 09:56 PM
There is just too many "inside" thing to know to be able to be accurate, there is dead money, money given back when assumed easily reachable incentives not met the year before, incentives in general, etc, etc, etc...