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Saulbadguy
03-08-2005, 01:30 PM
According to ESPN Insider, from the NFL Rumor Central:

Mar. 8 - Linebacker Kendrell Bell and the Chiefs have agreed to a multi-year deal that includes $10 million in guarantees. The Eagles were also interested in Bell, but stopped pursuing him when they re-signed Jeremiah Trotter.

Bell, 26, is coming off a season in which he was limited to three games because of a recurring groin injury. He underwent surgery in October to repair a sports hernia. Bell was the NFL's defensive rookie of the year in 2001.

wutamess
03-08-2005, 01:32 PM
Still not satisfied!

~ Hartwell too would take me there

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 01:32 PM
Hmm.

Wasn't my first choice, but it's something. If'n it's true.

Let's get a corner now.

Warrior5
03-08-2005, 01:32 PM
According to ESPN Insider, from the NFL Rumor Central:

Mar. 8 - Linebacker Kendrell Bell and the Chiefs have agreed to a multi-year deal that includes $10 million in guarantees. The Eagles were also interested in Bell, but stopped pursuing him when they re-signed Jeremiah Trotter.

Bell, 26, is coming off a season in which he was limited to three games because of a recurring groin injury. He underwent surgery in October to repair a sports hernia. Bell was the NFL's defensive rookie of the year in 2001.

Yeah? Crazy, I mean like so many positive waves, maybe we can't lose!

petegz28
03-08-2005, 01:32 PM
FINALLY! althouhg my 3rd choice at MLB MUCHO BETTER than Mitchell

TRR
03-08-2005, 01:33 PM
Don't kid me...BELL IS A STUD WHEN HEALTHY!!

Woodrow Call
03-08-2005, 01:33 PM
First off :) 2nd that is a lot of cash. Guess we can forget about Hartwell and the other.

TRR
03-08-2005, 01:35 PM
If true, Bell is an awesome signing. I never thought Kendrell would sign here. This guy is more of a playmaker than Hartwell...A lot more of a playmaker, but there is more risk involved.

bringbackmarty
03-08-2005, 01:35 PM
if true this is a good signing, and consistent with our offensive fa acquisitions. Bell could turn into a monster lb if he can stay healthy.

Bwana
03-08-2005, 01:35 PM
That's a good start, now keep moving Peterson you hump.

HolmeZz
03-08-2005, 01:36 PM
Not going to complain if that happens, but it would be retarded to give a double digit SB to Bell when we wouldn't even offer one to Hartwell.

Ghostof
03-08-2005, 01:36 PM
I'm not buying that until queen carl comes out and says it



until then, its a ploy to divert attention away from CP

DaKCMan AP
03-08-2005, 01:43 PM
www.kcchiefs.com (http://www.kcchiefs.com)

wutamess
03-08-2005, 01:44 PM
First off :) 2nd that is a lot of cash. Guess we can forget about Hartwell and the other.

Considering it's a 7 year deal. That's a pinch towards the cap.
We have enough money to sign anyone we want.

~Want Hartwell too.

nmt1
03-08-2005, 01:44 PM
This guy is just another sucky 2nd/3rd tier free agent that no one else wanted and we overpaid for him. Man Carl is such a moron.

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 01:44 PM
KANSAS CITY AGREES TO TERMS WITH UFA LB KENDRELL BELL (http://kcchiefs.com/news/2005/03/08/kansas_city_agrees_to_terms_with_ufa_lb_kendrell_bell)

Mar 08, 2005, 1:26:21 PM

Kansas City Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Tuesday that the club has agreed to terms of a seven-year contract with unrestricted free agent LB Kendrell Bell. As per Chiefs policy, no other terms of the agreement were made available.

“I’m pleased to conclude this negotiation with (Bell’s representative) Todd France,” Peterson commented. “I enjoyed it because we both wanted to get a deal done and I think that this is a very good contract for both parties. We’re pleased to acquire Kendrell’s services and we think he will make an impact for the Chiefs in 2005 and beyond. He’s a quality football player, as well as a quality person.”

“Kendrell is very excited about joining the Chiefs and believes he can make a huge impact on the defense,” France stated. “I can tell you that the entire process, working with Carl and (Executive Vice President/Assistant GM) Denny (Thum) was a great experience. The Chiefs are a first-class organization.”

Bell (6-1, 257) has played in 47 regular season games (44 starts), recording 255 tackles (206 solo) and 18.0 sacks (-145.0 yards). He also owns one interception (61 yards), a fumble recovery, three forced fumbles and five passes defensed. The University of Georgia product has also seen duty in four career postseason contests (three starts), owning 25 tackles (20 solo) and a sack (-1.0 yard).

The 2001 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, Bell originally entered the NFL as a second-round selection (39th overall) of Pittsburgh. He earned a Pro Bowl invitation in his inaugural pro campaign with the Steelers after producing 88 tackles (74 solo), 9.0 sacks (-84.0 yards) and a pair of forced fumbles. He was also a second-team All-Pro selection by the Associated Press in 2001 and was named the NFL’s Defensive Rookie of the Month in both October and November of that year.

The Augusta, Georgia native enjoyed his best all-around pro season in 2003. That year he was named an alternate to the Pro Bowl after racking up 108 tackles (88 solo) to rank second on the squad. He also accumulated 5.0 sacks (-36.0 yards), an interception, three passes defensed and a forced fumble.

Bell posted 153 tackles (95 solo), 7.0 sacks, five forced fumbles and 14 QB pressures during his collegiate tenure at Georgia. As a senior in 2000, he was a second-team All-Southeastern Conference selection when he started the final 10 contests of the year at middle linebacker, ranking second on the team with 92 tackles (53 solos). He also added 2.0 sacks, two fumble recoveries, two forced fumbles, an interception, three passes defensed and two QB pressures.

Bell joined the Bulldogs following a two-year stay at Middle Georgia Junior College where he registered 132 tackles and 6.0 sacks as a sophomore after rushing for 689 yards as a fullback during his freshman campaign. An all-state selection in football as a senior at Laney High School in Augusta, Georgia, he also lettered in basketball and track during his prep career.

Saulbadguy
03-08-2005, 01:44 PM
KANSAS CITY AGREES TO TERMS WITH UFA LB KENDRELL BELL
Mar 08, 2005, 1:26:21 PM


Kansas City Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Tuesday that the club has agreed to terms of a seven-year contract with unrestricted free agent LB Kendrell Bell. As per Chiefs policy, no other terms of the agreement were made available.

“I’m pleased to conclude this negotiation with (Bell’s representative) Todd France,” Peterson commented. “I enjoyed it because we both wanted to get a deal done and I think that this is a very good contract for both parties. We’re pleased to acquire Kendrell’s services and we think he will make an impact for the Chiefs in 2005 and beyond. He’s a quality football player, as well as a quality person.”

“Kendrell is very excited about joining the Chiefs and believes he can make a huge impactbell in on the defense,” France stated. “I can tell you that the entire process, working with Carl and (Executive Vice President/Assistant GM) Denny (Thum) was a great experience. The Chiefs are a first-class organization.”

Bell (6-1, 257) has played in 47 regular season games (44 starts), recording 255 tackles (206 solo) and 18.0 sacks (-145.0 yards). He also owns one interception (61 yards), a fumble recovery, three forced fumbles and five passes defensed. The University of Georgia product has also seen duty in four career postseason contests (three starts), owning 25 tackles (20 solo) and a sack (-1.0 yard).

The 2001 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, Bell originally entered the NFL as a second-round selection (39th overall) of Pittsburgh. He earned a Pro Bowl invitation in his inaugural pro campaign with the Steelers after producing 88 tackles (74 solo), 9.0 sacks (-84.0 yards) and a pair of forced fumbles. He was also a second-team All-Pro selection by the Associated Press in 2001 and was named the NFL’s Defensive Rookie of the Month in both October and November of that year.

The Augusta, Georgia native enjoyed his best all-around pro season in 2003. That year he was named an alternate to the Pro Bowl after racking up 108 tackles (88 solo) to rank second on the squad. He also accumulated 5.0 sacks (-36.0 yards), an interception, three passes defensed and a forced fumble.

Bell posted 153 tackles (95 solo), 7.0 sacks, five forced fumbles and 14 QB pressures during his collegiate tenure at Georgia. As a senior in 2000, he was a second-team All-Southeastern Conference selection when he started the final 10 contests of the year at middle linebacker, ranking second on the team with 92 tackles (53 solos). He also added 2.0 sacks, two fumble recoveries, two forced fumbles, an interception, three passes defensed and two QB pressures.

Bell joined the Bulldogs following a two-year stay at Middle Georgia Junior College where he registered 132 tackles and 6.0 sacks as a sophomore after rushing for 689 yards as a fullback during his freshman campaign. An all-state selection in football as a senior at Laney High School in Augusta, Georgia, he also lettered in basketball and track during his prep career.

KCFalcon59
03-08-2005, 01:44 PM
It's on the Chiefs page.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/03/08/kansas_city_agrees_to_terms_with_ufa_lb_kendrell_bell/

Mr. Laz
03-08-2005, 01:44 PM
KANSAS CITY AGREES TO TERMS WITH UFA LB KENDRELL BELL
Mar 08, 2005, 1:26:21 PM



Kansas City Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Tuesday that the club has agreed to terms of a seven-year contract with unrestricted free agent LB Kendrell Bell. As per Chiefs policy, no other terms of the agreement were made available.

“I’m pleased to conclude this negotiation with (Bell’s representative) Todd France,” Peterson commented. “I enjoyed it because we both wanted to get a deal done and I think that this is a very good contract for both parties. We’re pleased to acquire Kendrell’s services and we think he will make an impact for the Chiefs in 2005 and beyond. He’s a quality football player, as well as a quality person.”

“Kendrell is very excited about joining the Chiefs and believes he can make a huge impact on the defense,” France stated. “I can tell you that the entire process, working with Carl and (Executive Vice President/Assistant GM) Denny (Thum) was a great experience. The Chiefs are a first-class organization.”

Bell (6-1, 257) has played in 47 regular season games (44 starts), recording 255 tackles (206 solo) and 18.0 sacks (-145.0 yards). He also owns one interception (61 yards), a fumble recovery, three forced fumbles and five passes defensed. The University of Georgia product has also seen duty in four career postseason contests (three starts), owning 25 tackles (20 solo) and a sack (-1.0 yard).

The 2001 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, Bell originally entered the NFL as a second-round selection (39th overall) of Pittsburgh. He earned a Pro Bowl invitation in his inaugural pro campaign with the Steelers after producing 88 tackles (74 solo), 9.0 sacks (-84.0 yards) and a pair of forced fumbles. He was also a second-team All-Pro selection by the Associated Press in 2001 and was named the NFL’s Defensive Rookie of the Month in both October and November of that year.

The Augusta, Georgia native enjoyed his best all-around pro season in 2003. That year he was named an alternate to the Pro Bowl after racking up 108 tackles (88 solo) to rank second on the squad. He also accumulated 5.0 sacks (-36.0 yards), an interception, three passes defensed and a forced fumble.

Bell posted 153 tackles (95 solo), 7.0 sacks, five forced fumbles and 14 QB pressures during his collegiate tenure at Georgia. As a senior in 2000, he was a second-team All-Southeastern Conference selection when he started the final 10 contests of the year at middle linebacker, ranking second on the team with 92 tackles (53 solos). He also added 2.0 sacks, two fumble recoveries, two forced fumbles, an interception, three passes defensed and two QB pressures.

Bell joined the Bulldogs following a two-year stay at Middle Georgia Junior College where he registered 132 tackles and 6.0 sacks as a sophomore after rushing for 689 yards as a fullback during his freshman campaign. An all-state selection in football as a senior at Laney High School in Augusta, Georgia, he also lettered in basketball and track during his prep career.

Tuckdaddy
03-08-2005, 01:45 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! Thank you carl for doing something smart. We need more than just Bell but MLB is bad area for us. Bell has attitude that we need badly. I will not bash you for the rest of the day.

DaKCMan AP
03-08-2005, 01:45 PM
will he play MLB or OLB? WHB is speculating that he'll fill the spot vacated by Barber.

bringbackmarty
03-08-2005, 01:46 PM
seven years, waht are the terms?

easymobee
03-08-2005, 01:46 PM
I think the fact that CP came out of the Rolle fiasco looking like a dork .... helped get this deal moving a lot faster than maybe it would have.

Bell's a good player.

Rain Man
03-08-2005, 01:47 PM
Stupid question here, but Bell's a MLB, right? Or is he an OLB?

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 01:47 PM
I can't believe we'd play him on the outside and start Mitchell. But we do lots of things I can't believe.

Sure-Oz
03-08-2005, 01:47 PM
Finally somebody, atleast we signed a guy that WANTED to be here, i still want hartwell though damnit and add the corner!!! common domino effect!

HemiEd
03-08-2005, 01:48 PM
:toast: :thumb: PBJ PBJ PBJ I think he is going to be a great fit!

TRR
03-08-2005, 01:48 PM
will he play MLB or OLB? WHB is speculating that he'll fill the spot vacated by Barber.

If we can sign Hartwell, Bell will fill Barber's spot. If we can't Bell will be our starting MLB. Bell can play all 3 LB positions, and even play rush end like Gary Stills (but better). Bell is a HUGE PLAYMAKER. Other than last season, look at the guys stats. They are ridiculous. Sacks, passes defensed, INT's.

shaneo69
03-08-2005, 01:48 PM
I bet rufusmaqe is thrilled right now!

The Bad Guy
03-08-2005, 01:49 PM
CBS Sportsline is reporting it as well.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8268658

Mr. Laz
03-08-2005, 01:49 PM
prolly need to sticky this too...


i imagine will get a least a dozen other "Bell signs" thread today.

InChiefsHell
03-08-2005, 01:49 PM
bring on hartwell and law now...

shaneo69
03-08-2005, 01:50 PM
:toast: :thumb: PBJ PBJ PBJ I think he is going to be a great fit!

Gotta love your optimism!!

shaneo69
03-08-2005, 01:51 PM
seven years, waht are the terms?

Pastabelly should have them shortly.

jarjar
03-08-2005, 01:51 PM
Praise the football gods, they have taken pity on us.

buddha
03-08-2005, 01:51 PM
Let's just forget about Hartwell...it's not going to happen now. They will focus on finding a corner with the remaining change.

Mr. Kotter
03-08-2005, 01:51 PM
Glory hallelujah!

NOW, Hartwell....and Law (or Smoot). :cuss:

Sure-Oz
03-08-2005, 01:51 PM
CBS Sportsline is reporting it as well.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8268658
What's your take, i think its a good signing if he can stay healthy, real good. I want hartwell too though, i hope he comes to us and we make an effort, this def. helps ease the rolle loss a bit.

TRR
03-08-2005, 01:52 PM
If we can sign Hartwell, and a CB (Law, Surtain, Dyson, Herndon, Smoot)...Our D will take a huge step forward in my opinion.

In 2003, Bell was regarded as one of the best LB's in the game.

nmt1
03-08-2005, 01:52 PM
As usual, we overpaid for an injury prone, 2nd/3rd tier free agent that no other NFL team in their right mind would want. Carl is such an idiot.

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 01:52 PM
So, what'll the cheesy Star headline be?

Chiefs Answer the Bell
Bell Tolls for the Chiefs
All's Well that Ends Bell

DaKCMan AP
03-08-2005, 01:53 PM
If we can sign Hartwell too I will be stoked. We would have a monster LB-crew with Bell AND Hartwell.

Also, its reported as a 7-year deal. How does this work with the CBA expiring?

Warrior5
03-08-2005, 01:54 PM
Let's just forget about Hartwell...it's not going to happen now. They will focus on finding a corner with the remaining change.

Why is Hartwell not going to happen now? Contract is reportedly over 7 years...this apparently ain't a big cap hit.

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 01:54 PM
Also, its reported as a 7-year deal. How does this work with the CBA expiring?As I understand it, the bonus only pro-rates over the first 5 years.

wolfpack0735
03-08-2005, 01:54 PM
its about time. i just hope they dont stop there. but knowing queen carls he thinks it wii shut up the masses and he`ll stop,or give bartee a big bonus. :thumb:

Mr. Laz
03-08-2005, 01:54 PM
Let's just forget about Hartwell...it's not going to happen now. They will focus on finding a corner with the remaining change.

im not sure i don't just want them to concentrate on the linebacker corp.


lets make at least 1 level of the defense decent.... sign Hartwell!!

tomahawk kid
03-08-2005, 01:54 PM
Kind of like taking a piss after holding it for a 3 hour car ride ain't it?

Rain Man
03-08-2005, 01:54 PM
http://images.nfl.com/images/players/60x80/235195.jpg



# 97 Kendrell Bell
Position: ILB
Height: 6-1
Weight: 257
Born: 07/02/1980
College: Georgia
NFL Experience: 4

Career Stats | Game Logs: 01 02 03 04 | Situational Stats | Team Roster

DEFENSIVE STATS

Year Team G Total Tckl Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
2001 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 83 70.0 13 9 0 0 0.0 0 0 1
2002 Pittsburgh Steelers 12 50 37.0 13 4 0 0 0.0 0 0 2
2003 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 99 80.0 19 5 1 61 61.0 42 0 3
2004 Pittsburgh Steelers 3 8 6.0 2 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
TOTAL 47 240 193.0 47 18 1 61 61.0 42 0 6


FUMBLES

Year Team G Fum Lost Fum Forced Own Rec Opp Rec Yards Tot Rec TD
2001 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
2002 Pittsburgh Steelers 12 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0
2003 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0
2004 Pittsburgh Steelers 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOTAL 47 0 0 2 0 2 0 2 0

the Talking Can
03-08-2005, 01:54 PM
I'd rather have Hartwell, but shit, this is something...

SCTrojan
03-08-2005, 01:56 PM
I like the effort to get it done. I'm still hoping for another key defensive signing with the other hole to be filled via the draft.

TRR
03-08-2005, 01:57 PM
In 2003, Bell had 100 tackles, 5 sacks, 1 Int, and 3 passes defended. His rookie season was awesome too (Won Defensive Rookie of the Year award). He had 83 tackles and 9 sacks.

ChiefsOne
03-08-2005, 01:57 PM
Bell is a monster! I have always wanted him or a player like him since we lost DT. If he stays healthy (which he believes he is) he will make a very good addition.

Now we just need a CB or two!

Rain Man
03-08-2005, 01:57 PM
So, what'll the cheesy Star headline be?

Chiefs Answer the Bell
Bell Tolls for the Chiefs
All's Well that Ends Bell


Chiefs move up the Bell curve

Chiefs defense gets Bell-y button

Chiefs defense gets more Bell-icose

Chiefs sign Bobby Bell [This is Gretz.]

Cochise
03-08-2005, 01:59 PM
Well, it's a step in the right direction. He's a good player when healthy.

Now, let's at a minimum add a #1 corner. Hopefully another LB too.

Sure-Oz
03-08-2005, 01:59 PM
If he stays healthy he will do well, atleast he should...this eases yesterdays pain just a bit now. lets get some more done now!

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 01:59 PM
It's too bad Quitlock's not on the air to tell us all how he made this happen.

buddha
03-08-2005, 02:00 PM
im not sure i don't just want them to concentrate on the linebacker corp.


lets make at least 1 level of the defense decent.... sign Hartwell!!

I would love for KC to fix their LBer corps. I'm just saying that I don't think it will happen...Do any of you? I'd love to have Hartwell, but I think they will spend their money on a CB. Frankly, they need TWO!

Mark M
03-08-2005, 02:00 PM
Wow ... not bad for a team with a cheap-assed owner and incompetent GM. ;)

Acutally, I was more of a Hartwell kinda guy (fewer injury concernts), but Bell is young and an immediate upgrade.

Now ... trade for Surtain or sign Law to a performance-laiden contract and I'll be pleased with the FA period.

Then either draft Rolle, James or trade up for Williams and I'll be freaking estatic.

MM
~~:thumb:

jspchief
03-08-2005, 02:00 PM
You guys that think Bell can play outside are crazy. He's 260 pounds.

InChiefsHell
03-08-2005, 02:00 PM
As usual, we overpaid for an injury prone, 2nd/3rd tier free agent that no other NFL team in their right mind would want. Carl is such an idiot.

Your'e kidding right?

The 2001 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, Bell originally entered the NFL as a second-round selection (39th overall) of Pittsburgh. He earned a Pro Bowl invitation in his inaugural pro campaign with the Steelers after producing 88 tackles (74 solo), 9.0 sacks (-84.0 yards) and a pair of forced fumbles. He was also a second-team All-Pro selection by the Associated Press in 2001 and was named the NFL’s Defensive Rookie of the Month in both October and November of that year.

The Augusta, Georgia native enjoyed his best all-around pro season in 2003. That year he was named an alternate to the Pro Bowl after racking up 108 tackles (88 solo) to rank second on the squad. He also accumulated 5.0 sacks (-36.0 yards), an interception, three passes defensed and a forced fumble.

Methinks he don't suck that bad, and he's young. I'm happy, for now. Next bring on Hartwell and Law...

Delano
03-08-2005, 02:01 PM
In 2003, Bell had 100 tackles, 5 sacks, 1 Int, and 3 passes defended. His rookie season was awesome too (Won Defensive Rookie of the Year award). He had 83 tackles and 9 sacks.


That shit doesn't matter. The question is, can he be ejected from a car traveling 70 mph and get up with a mere dislocated shoulder? Didn't think so. Surviving that kind of a wreck is what gets you drafted in the second round by the Chiefs.

PastorMikH
03-08-2005, 02:01 PM
Finally! Though I assume this means the door is closed on Hartwell. I like what Bell brings to the field, I am a bit concerned though about him actually seeing the field more than the trainer's room.



So, who's next to sign and how long will it take?

Bob Dole
03-08-2005, 02:01 PM
You guys that think Bell can play outside are crazy. He's 260 pounds.

But he has more interceptions than Bartee...

the Talking Can
03-08-2005, 02:02 PM
So how come we "had to pass" on Rolle due to injury but had no problem signing Bell?

Mr. Laz
03-08-2005, 02:02 PM
Wow ... not bad for a team with a cheap-assed owner and incompetent GM.;)

ya 1 FA signing does makes up for all the other crappy things we've done

Mark M
03-08-2005, 02:02 PM
I would love for KC to fix their LBer corps. I'm just saying that I don't think it will happen...Do any of you? I'd love to have Hartwell, but I think they will spend their money on a CB. Frankly, they need TWO!

This makes it somewhat vague:

Linebacker Kendrell Bell and the Chiefs have agreed to a multi-year deal that includes $10 million in guarantees.

That $10 mill may not be all signing bonus -- there could be a roster bonus as well. This should leave some extra $$ for Hartwell.

Also, Bell can play OLB better than Hartwell (who doesn't want to play OLB), so maybe getting both is an option.

I'm not holding my breath, and KC still needs an upgrade at CB, but it'll be interesting ...

MM
~~:arrow:

TRR
03-08-2005, 02:03 PM
You guys that think Bell can play outside are crazy. He's 260 pounds.

Bell was right around 250 last season before his injury. He's played all over in Pitt's scheme. I just talked to my cousin who lives in Pitt (Big Steelers fan). He said Bell has lined up at all 4 LB positions in their 3-4 scheme, and that he has even played rush end as well.

Bell is known for very good pass coverage skills. There isn't a better athlete in the NFL at 6'1, 250. Maybe as good, but not better.

beer bacon
03-08-2005, 02:04 PM
So how come we "had to pass" on Rolle due to injury but had no problem signing Bell?

Most likely because we only became seriously concerned with the neck injury when we found out Rolle was signing with the Ravens.

DaKCMan AP
03-08-2005, 02:06 PM
But he has more interceptions than Bartee...

put him at CB! :hmmm:

Mr. Laz
03-08-2005, 02:07 PM
That $10 mill may not be all signing bonus -- there could be a roster bonus as well. This should leave some extra $$ for Hartwell.

Also, Bell can play OLB better than Hartwell (who doesn't want to play OLB), so maybe getting both is an option.

I'm not holding my breath, and KC still needs an upgrade at CB, but it'll be interesting ...

MM
~~:arrow:

if we were honestly trying to sign rolle and hartwell ... then adding hartwell should be no problem. Bell had to be cheaper than Rolle.


sign hartwell now .. then start trying to find away to get smoot/law/dyson. Then grab a corner in the 1st round of the draft ... maybe the first 2 rounds.

Mark M
03-08-2005, 02:07 PM
ya 1 FA signing does makes up for all the other crappy things we've done

For you and others, nothing they do will ever make up for their mistakes. Of course, we all know that KC is the only one that makes them, and that they are the only franchise with a cheap assed owner and incompetent GM ... ;)

Actually, I won't be happy until the get a true #1 CB and draft a player who can come in and be a starter.

But this is a start ...

MM
~~:arrow:

SCTrojan
03-08-2005, 02:07 PM
Chiefs move up the Bell curve

Chiefs defense gets Bell-y button

Chiefs defense gets more Bell-icose

Chiefs sign Bobby Bell [This is Gretz.]

Bell-ieve it or not, the Chiefs sign a big-time free agent.

AustinChief
03-08-2005, 02:07 PM
I personally like Bell alot more than Hartwell... Bell is the better athlete and bigger impact player when healthy. Hopefully his string of bad luck is over.

I am elated with this signing.

--Kyle

Rain Man
03-08-2005, 02:08 PM
Chiefs move up the Bell curve

Chiefs defense gets Bell-y button

Chiefs defense gets more Bell-icose

Chiefs sign Bobby Bell [This is Gretz.]



Saved by the Bell

Chiefs Defense Will No Longer Get Their Bells Rung

Bell(e) of the Ball Goes Home with Chiefs

Mark M
03-08-2005, 02:08 PM
if we were honestly trying to sign rolle and hartwell ... then adding hartwell should be no problem. Bell had to be cheaper than Rolle.


sign hartwell now .. then start trying to find away to get smoot/law/dyson. Then grab a corner in the 1st round of the draft ... maybe the first 2 rounds.

Now THAT'S a plan I could buy into.

MM
~~:thumb:

Ultra Peanut
03-08-2005, 02:10 PM
Awesome. We pass up the guy who passed his physical due to injury concerns, then sign a guy who failed one.

tomahawk kid
03-08-2005, 02:10 PM
I know someone has said this before, but a LB playing for the Chiefs with the last name of "Bell" can't be a bad thing.

R&GHomer
03-08-2005, 02:11 PM
So what are Bell's injuries and how serious have they been. Also, what’s the story with Barber?

Mr. Laz
03-08-2005, 02:11 PM
For you and others, nothing they do will ever make up for their mistakes. Of course, we all know that KC is the only one that makes them, and that they are the only franchise with a cheap assed owner and incompetent GM ... ;)
and for people like you, nothing they ever do wrong will register in your brain pan. ;)

ENDelt260
03-08-2005, 02:11 PM
I personally like Bell alot more than Hartwell... Bell is the better athlete and bigger impact player when healthy. Hopefully his string of bad luck is over.

I am elated with this signing.

--Kyle
Aren't you supposed to be making the database *smaller*?

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 02:12 PM
Pittsburgh beatwriter Ed Bouchette is on 610. Highlights:

Explosive playmaker, great at getting up the field and to the QB/RB

Pittsburgh couldn't find a way to use him on 3rd down, tried everything. Apparently studing the playbook and other teams is not a strength

CANNOT cover (not a good fit at OLB)

Thinks he's maybe a better fit as a 4-3 MLB than a 3-4 ILB, thinks he can make a real impact here if he can stay healthy

the Talking Can
03-08-2005, 02:13 PM
Acutally, I was more of a Hartwell kinda guy (fewer injury concernts), but Bell is young and an immediate upgrade.

Now ... trade for Surtain or sign Law to a performance-laiden contract and I'll be pleased with the FA period.

Then either draft Rolle, James or trade up for Williams and I'll be freaking estatic.

MM
~~:thumb:

my thoughts exactly..it seems clear now the plan is to sign the broken down injured guys, like Law, because they can structure their contracts more favorably...it is a risk, and sign of cheapness, but I'll take it...give me Bell and Law and let's roll the dice and hope they stay helathy

signing young healthy guys like Hartwell and Smoot is too much for this cheapos....

jspchief
03-08-2005, 02:13 PM
Bell was right around 250 last season before his injury. He's played all over in Pitt's scheme. I just talked to my cousin who lives in Pitt (Big Steelers fan). He said Bell has lined up at all 4 LB positions in their 3-4 scheme, and that he has even played rush end as well.

Bell is known for very good pass coverage skills. There isn't a better athlete in the NFL at 6'1, 250. Maybe as good, but not better.

4-3 being the key element. He may have lined up outside, but I'll bet it was in blitz packages. There's no way he's an every down OLB.

Dave Lane
03-08-2005, 02:13 PM
Not going to complain if that happens, but it would be retarded to give a double digit SB to Bell when we wouldn't even offer one to Hartwell.

Notice the word "guarantees" not signing bonus.

Dave

matts22
03-08-2005, 02:15 PM
We can still get a CB.

I didn't like Rolle that well anyway. He is WAY overvalued. I would gladly give up a second for Surtain and get a much better CB for about the same money.

I'm very excited that we got Bell...he is a great athlete and instantly upgrades what I feel like were the worst LB core in the NFL. At least Carl didn't settle for Rob Morris or someone like that.

I'm still holding on to a small hope that we can still get Hartwell. He's supposed to announce his decision in the next 3 days, right?

Maybe Gunther talked Carl into switching to a 3-4...now that would be awesome. Fuji, Bell, Hartwell, and Fox/Barber/Draft Pick at LBs. Gives me chills thinking about it.

Logical
03-08-2005, 02:16 PM
If we can sign Hartwell too I will be stoked. We would have a monster LB-crew with Bell AND Hartwell.

Also, its reported as a 7-year deal. How does this work with the CBA expiring?What kind of 3 lb defense plays with two Inside Linebackers out of the three?

Glad we got Bell, would have preferred Hartwell, but I am forgetting about him now.

Mr. Laz
03-08-2005, 02:16 PM
if he can stay healthy
that about sums it up.

considering the serious injury to Barber, my starting linebackers would be:

WLB- Mitchell (work hard on his coverage skills this TC ... he has the speed)

MLB- Kendrall bell

SSLB-fujita (not signed, but restricted FA) hopefull will change to Hartwell at this position soon.

backups - beisel,stills,fox,caver (all are also special teamers)

Bwana
03-08-2005, 02:18 PM
But he has more interceptions than Bartee...

And I have seen his neck turn! ROFL

HolmeZz
03-08-2005, 02:19 PM
CANNOT cover (not a good fit at OLB)

Ehh. From all the reviews I've heard about Bell, the general consensus was that he was pretty good in coverage.

htismaqe
03-08-2005, 02:44 PM
I bet rufusmaqe is thrilled right now!

Why would that be?

Bell was my 3rd choice. I'm happy we finally signed somebody, but call me "less than thrilled".

mlyonsd
03-08-2005, 02:46 PM
Ughh, the guy only played in 8 games last year? I hope CP and Gun know what they're doing.

ceebz
03-08-2005, 02:46 PM
Yay. I'm sure he's gonna look great on the weekly injury report.

ceebz
03-08-2005, 02:47 PM
Ughh, the guy only played in 8 games last year? I hope CP and Gun know what they're doing.


The guy's almost missed half of the games in his entire career, because of injuries.

Delano
03-08-2005, 02:47 PM
If Bell can break through the KC O-line, I'm sure he can penetrate many a backfield this season.

Brock
03-08-2005, 02:49 PM
Methinks he don't suck that bad, and he's young. I'm happy, for now. Next bring on Hartwell and Law...

Probably not. I think the Bell/Hartwell equation was an either/or. Pretty disappointing, given Bell's recent history.

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 02:50 PM
Ehh. From all the reviews I've heard about Bell, the general consensus was that he was pretty good in coverage.:shrug:

I'm just passing on what Ed Bouchette from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette said.

Mark M
03-08-2005, 02:51 PM
and for people like you, nothing they ever do wrong will register in your brain pan.
ROFL

Actually, unlike Fox News, I actually try to be fair and balanced. I'll rip Carl for guys like Carlton Grey, Bam Morris, and Johnnie Morton, but will also give him credit for Will Shields, Tony G., and DT.

Just because I don't bash the organization with every other post doesn't mean I'm not critical ...

besides, every other post of mine is dedicated to making fun of raiderhader's mother.

MM
~~:D

DaWolf
03-08-2005, 02:52 PM
seven years, waht are the terms?
$10 mil guarunteed, $5 mil a year.

I guess Lamar didn't want to open the pocketbook. :rolleyes: Now everyone can whine about how they didn't want Bell and how now the front office won't make any more moves... :rolleyes:

Iowanian
03-08-2005, 02:52 PM
So....

Is he playing in the middle or SOLB?

Demonpenz
03-08-2005, 02:52 PM
i hope they have a clause that voids the contract if he gets shot in the ass

Demonpenz
03-08-2005, 02:54 PM
this is why the chiefs suck

Wallcrawler
03-08-2005, 02:54 PM
If I knew for sure that Bell would be able to play the entire season without getting hurt and missing several games, Id be happy with this.

His injury problems concern me.


But when he is healthy, the guy is a good linebacker. Worlds better than Kawika Mitchell. Our middle linebacker position just got upgraded, there is no question.

I saw that Hartwell was asking for a 10m signing bonus, after Morlon Greenwood received a 7m bonus.

I think that with the Chiefs wanting to fill 3 spots on the D, we wont be landing the top tier guys that we all wanted.

Bell is damn sure better than nothing though, because when he is healthy, he's shown he can be a playmaker.


Im glad that we at least have him. Now the Cornerback position should be the next issue that we address.

Rolle is signed with the Ravens, Dwight Smith with the Saints. So that leaves Andre Dyson, and Fred Smoot, which the team has shown no interest in thusfar, and Ty Law.

Theres still the possibility of them removing their head from their ass and pulling the trigger on the trade with Miami for Surtain.


Right now, we need a SOLID playmaker on defense. Bell can do it if he is healthy, but we need someone of top caliber in the secondary.

Id forego the third added player, to get a top flight player. 1 outstanding player, 1 good player beats 3 average players.

Besides, I think that Willie Pile could come in and play some safety for us. He did all right last year in Jerome Woods' absence. If we had a guy like Surtain back there, it would take even more pressure off of him.

I guess we will see what happens.

Im eating my words now though, I honestly didnt expect any of these guys on the list to be signed.

htismaqe
03-08-2005, 03:08 PM
I've seen Bell a dozen times or so.

He's not an OLB, he struggles in coverage.

htismaqe
03-08-2005, 03:12 PM
If I knew for sure that Bell would be able to play the entire season without getting hurt and missing several games, Id be happy with this.

His injury problems concern me.


But when he is healthy, the guy is a good linebacker. Worlds better than Kawika Mitchell. Our middle linebacker position just got upgraded, there is no question.

I saw that Hartwell was asking for a 10m signing bonus, after Morlon Greenwood received a 7m bonus.

I think that with the Chiefs wanting to fill 3 spots on the D, we wont be landing the top tier guys that we all wanted.

Bell is damn sure better than nothing though, because when he is healthy, he's shown he can be a playmaker.


Im glad that we at least have him. Now the Cornerback position should be the next issue that we address.

Rolle is signed with the Ravens, Dwight Smith with the Saints. So that leaves Andre Dyson, and Fred Smoot, which the team has shown no interest in thusfar, and Ty Law.

Theres still the possibility of them removing their head from their ass and pulling the trigger on the trade with Miami for Surtain.


Right now, we need a SOLID playmaker on defense. Bell can do it if he is healthy, but we need someone of top caliber in the secondary.

Id forego the third added player, to get a top flight player. 1 outstanding player, 1 good player beats 3 average players.

Besides, I think that Willie Pile could come in and play some safety for us. He did all right last year in Jerome Woods' absence. If we had a guy like Surtain back there, it would take even more pressure off of him.

I guess we will see what happens.

Im eating my words now though, I honestly didnt expect any of these guys on the list to be signed.

I agree. It's time to get Surtain or Smoot and THEN go bargain shopping...

the Talking Can
03-08-2005, 04:21 PM
Sign a CB then move on a 2nd tier LB like, say, Simmons....

dirk digler
03-08-2005, 04:25 PM
Why would that be?

Bell was my 3rd choice. I'm happy we finally signed somebody, but call me "less than thrilled".

Yep kinda how I feel. I am not overly excited especially since the way we treated Rolle now we go and sign an injury prone LB.

ENDelt260
03-08-2005, 04:34 PM
i hope they have a clause that voids the contract if he gets shot in the ass
I thought that was Porter.

HolmeZz
03-08-2005, 04:35 PM
It was Porter. But for argument's sake, let's pretend it was Bell.

Hoover
03-08-2005, 04:35 PM
Ahhhhhhh a playmaker on Defense Wow what a concept. I'm very pleased.

I think Bell at MLB behind our two lard ass DTs (Sims, Jr. and Dalton) will be really nice. I think our next move is to focus on CB, my bet is we end up with Law, which is fine. Other than that we need to sign a OLB. Doing so not only gets us better LB, but builds depth for this team, I like the idea of having Fox and Mitchell as backups just not starters.

ct
03-08-2005, 04:44 PM
The guy's almost missed half of the games in his entire career, because of injuries.

Missed 4 games his 1st 3 years, battled sports hernia/groin problem all season last year.

How does missing 17 games of 64 equal almost half to you? Is this some special ChiefsPlanet math thing, like the special spellchecker program?

booger
03-08-2005, 04:45 PM
Have they had the press conference yet?

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 04:47 PM
Have they had the press conference yet?I haven't heard one.

610 said an hour ago they had audio of Bell and Peterson both to play after the top of the hour, but I'll be damned if I heard it.

Saggysack
03-08-2005, 04:47 PM
The guy's almost missed half of the games in his entire career, because of injuries.

If you are going to make a stupid ass statement, atleast make it a correct stupid ass statement. Bell has missed 17 games out of a possible 64. Yeah, you're right about missing half his games for his entire career. You are a modern day Einstein, I tell ya.

Do us a favor and quit talking out your poop chute.

booger
03-08-2005, 04:49 PM
I haven't heard one.

610 said an hour ago they had audio of Bell and Peterson both to play after the top of the hour, but I'll be damned if I heard it.
If they do, they will probably have a real audio of it on KCchiefs.com.

810's web feed isn't working so i'll have to keep up on the net.

thanks :thumb:

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 04:51 PM
610 is playing it right now. He's not in KC, it was a conference call.

Says he's healthy and could play right now.

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 04:54 PM
He says they haven't determined yet which of the 3 linebacker positions he's going to play, but that he thinks he can play wherever they need him.

His godfather played for the Chiefs, but I didn't recognize the name. Sounded something like "Jim Marcellus".

Saggysack
03-08-2005, 04:57 PM
610 is playing it right now. He's not in KC, it was a conference call.

Says he's healthy and could play right now.

He also said he could have played in the AFC championship game, the Steelers elected to not have him play.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-08-2005, 04:58 PM
He says they haven't determined yet which of the 3 linebacker positions he's going to play, but that he thinks he can play wherever they need him.

His godfather played for the Chiefs, but I didn't recognize the name. Sounded something like "Jim Marcellus".

This means they are probably still after Hartwell.

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 04:59 PM
This means they are probably still after Hartwell.It could, but I wouldn't read too much into it.

Brock
03-08-2005, 04:59 PM
This means they are probably still after Hartwell.

I'd say not.

Rausch
03-08-2005, 05:00 PM
Why would that be?

Bell was my 3rd choice. I'm happy we finally signed somebody, but call me "less than thrilled".

The one thing I really like about Bell is that it's a long term deal and he's young. Unless Peterson put a Girlbac-type poison pill in his contract he should be here for years.

And he's a helluva' pass rusher... :)

matts22
03-08-2005, 05:02 PM
This means they are probably still after Hartwell.


PLEASE!!!! Hartwell and Bell would be an amazing combo. And they both want to be here!

Chiefs Pantalones
03-08-2005, 05:02 PM
I'd say not.

You're right, this is the Chiefs we're talking about.

ct
03-08-2005, 05:04 PM
PLEASE!!!! Hartwell and Bell would be an amazing combo. And they both want to be here!

They both want to get PAID, and logically our needy defensive roster would be just the place to get it.

Still would have loved to see it too, but we gotta let it go.