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raypec85
03-08-2005, 05:04 PM
per NFL Network just now

beer bacon
03-08-2005, 05:05 PM
per NFL Network just now

Well there it is. Either Law or Surtain now. I would give out a hearty **** you Carl, but it is still too close to the Bell signing.

nychief
03-08-2005, 05:05 PM
they have the scratch... makes sense. good move for them.

LiL stumppy
03-08-2005, 05:06 PM
:cuss: CARL!

the Talking Can
03-08-2005, 05:06 PM
Law or Surtain


I'm so glad CP whiffed on Rolle, really....

blackhawk
03-08-2005, 05:06 PM
now a viking per nfl network by the way of sirius satllite radio!

HC_Chief
03-08-2005, 05:06 PM
Ehh, I'm actually not upset about this one. He is WAY overrated as a player and wanted way too much green.

Surtain or Law (or both) would be preferred.

FloridaChief
03-08-2005, 05:07 PM
Time to give up that 2nd for Surtain, IMO...

Woodrow Call
03-08-2005, 05:07 PM
I vote for Law, to many holes to fill to trade the pick unless they trade down again.

blackhawk
03-08-2005, 05:08 PM
Chiefs | Law Could Visit - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:55:43 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs could schedule a visit with free agent CB Ty Law (Patriots) this week

Mr. Kotter
03-08-2005, 05:08 PM
IF we get Law or Surtain, this is no big deal.

Iowanian
03-08-2005, 05:09 PM
Gunther and Vermeil didn't like Smoot by all accounts.

From what I have heard and believe I've seen....Smoot isn't good vs Physical WRs. There are quite a few of those on the schedule this year.

A healthy, non-blockbuster LAW is what they need.

HolmeZz
03-08-2005, 05:09 PM
IMO he was better than Lucas, but not what I'd call a shutdown corner. I'd rather have a healthy Law or Surtain.

HC_Chief
03-08-2005, 05:09 PM
Time to give up that 2nd for Surtain, IMO...

Yep.
Plus, sign Law... word is most teams are steering clear of him due to the fact that he's whellchair-bound right now.

Rausch
03-08-2005, 05:09 PM
Time to give up that 2nd for Surtain, IMO...

I hope we do. God I hope we do...

beer bacon
03-08-2005, 05:09 PM
IF we get Law or Surtain, this is no big deal.

If Law's agent is still demanding a 15 million dollar SB then he should be dragged out into the street and shot.

Iowanian
03-08-2005, 05:09 PM
Surtain is also a good option.

I'd LOVE the deal if Carl could swing it for NEXT years second.

DenverChief
03-08-2005, 05:13 PM
Whats the deal with Dyson why does nobody want him?

PastorMikH
03-08-2005, 05:14 PM
Time to give up that 2nd for Surtain, IMO...



I'd be opposed to that if I didn't think we would just waste the pick anyway. After seeing the Chiefs draft for the last 10-15 years, I've come to the conclusion that we have a much better chance trading the 2nd rounder for a good player than we do drafting one.

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 05:15 PM
Woooohoooo! :thumb: :toast: :clap:

MGRS13
03-08-2005, 05:15 PM
*Hmmm, now lets see, what do we have here at the bottom of the barrel. Oh, no, no can't do that coach wants to use the second for a WR, you know cause this offense is just falling apart. Well then what do we have here? A probowler I don't think so. Hey whats that yea you gotta scrape the barrel real hard OK now we are getting somewhere........I'd like to introduce the newest members of the Kansas city Chiefs at saftey Mr. Sammy Knight and at corner back Mr. Andre Dyson, ow ouch ouch I'm sorry I seemed to have hurt myself while I was patting myself on the back........

*Future words uttered by Carl Peterson.

Garcia Bronco
03-08-2005, 05:16 PM
Chiefs | Law Could Visit - from www.KFFL.com (http://www.KFFL.com)
Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:55:43 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs could schedule a visit with free agent CB Ty Law (Patriots) this week

I mean...is that really news?..They could schedule an appointment

nychief
03-08-2005, 05:17 PM
Smoot isn't good vs Physical WRs. There are quite a few of those on the schedule this year.

Rolle wasn't considered great against Physical wideouts...didn't stop us from playing with his balls.

DenverChief
03-08-2005, 05:18 PM
Rolle wasn't considered great against Physical wideouts...didn't stop us from playing with his balls.ROFL:whackit:

Logical
03-08-2005, 05:19 PM
Time to give up that 2nd for Surtain, IMO...Amen brother amen

Logical
03-08-2005, 05:20 PM
I'd be opposed to that if I didn't think we would just waste the pick anyway. After seeing the Chiefs draft for the last 10-15 years, I've come to the conclusion that we have a much better chance trading the 2nd rounder for a good player than we do drafting one.
:clap:

KILLER_CLOWN
03-08-2005, 05:21 PM
Surtain isn't going anywhere until at least a few days before the draft, Get Law in here now and let the ink dry dammit!

HC_Chief
03-08-2005, 05:21 PM
I'd be opposed to that if I didn't think we would just waste the pick anyway. After seeing the Chiefs draft for the last 10-15 years, I've come to the conclusion that we have a much better chance trading the 2nd rounder for a good player than we do drafting one.

DAMN STRAIGHT! Over the past TWELVE seasons, KC has drafted a total of ONE player(s) w/ a pro bowl appearance: Tim Grunhard went once.

Surtain has THREE.

Gee, let's see, keep the pick and waste it on the next Cloud/Shehee/Freeman or trade it for a top-of-the-line <i>true</i> cornerback? :hmmm:

Only a moron would want the former.

the Talking Can
03-08-2005, 05:25 PM
CP said they still off on the #'s with Surtain and the compensation with Miami, but he said Surtain really wanted to leave

picasso
03-08-2005, 05:31 PM
On KFFL in took 1 hour and 15 minutes from the KC media quote post to the Vikings signing Smoot post.

That is AWESOME!!!!

SSSHHHHH!!! They're still thinkin'.......

picasso
03-08-2005, 05:34 PM
Damn Dick you aren't thinkin' - WAKE UP!!!!

Warrior5
03-08-2005, 05:50 PM
Whats the deal with Dyson why does nobody want him?

'Zactly...frankly, I rank them Surtain, Dyson, then Law.

Wonder why no stated interest.

siberian khatru
03-08-2005, 05:52 PM
'Zactly...frankly, I rank them Surtain, Dyson, then Law.

Wonder why no stated interest.

Dyson has a narrowing of the urethra.

HC_Chief
03-08-2005, 05:52 PM
'Zactly...frankly, I rank them Surtain, Dyson, then Law.

Wonder why no stated interest.

Is Dyson an UFA? I thought he was a RFA?

Hell, I didn't even realize he was a possibility. I'd put him #1 on the list, followed by Law then Surtain. Dyson is a damn fine corner and Law brings experience and leadership... plus he won't cost us a draft pick.

Unfortunately it won't happen: Dyson is 5-10", 183#... Gunther only likes 6'+, 200#+ corners :rolleyes:

Michael Michigan
03-08-2005, 05:56 PM
Is Dyson an UFA? I thought he was a RFA?

Does it matter?

Dyson has a narrowing of the urethra.

HC_Chief
03-08-2005, 05:58 PM
Does it matter?

Yes, it matters. UFA costs us nothing, RFA costs us a butt-load. We still need another LB, CB and DE.

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 06:01 PM
Unfortunately it won't happen: Dyson is 5-10", 183#... Gunther only likes 6'+, 200#+ corners That's why 175-pound sopping wet Samari Rolle was our #1 target.

HC_Chief
03-08-2005, 06:03 PM
That's why 175-pound sopping wet Samari Rolle was our #1 target.

hehe, good point :D

So when did Gunther finally realize guys like Bartee (read: SAFETIES) don't necessarily make for the best corners?

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 06:05 PM
So when did Gunther finally realize guys like Bartee (read: SAFETIES) don't necessarily make for the best corners?I haven't seen any non-circumstantial evidence yet that would prove he has. We'll see who we sign and draft.

Michael Michigan
03-08-2005, 06:23 PM
Yes, it matters. UFA costs us nothing, RFA costs us a butt-load. We still need another LB, CB and DE.

:)

Did you miss the other quote?

tomahawk kid
03-08-2005, 06:26 PM
I still haven't seen this confirmed anywhere.

whoman69
03-08-2005, 06:44 PM
DAMN STRAIGHT! Over the past TWELVE seasons, KC has drafted a total of ONE player(s) w/ a pro bowl appearance: Tim Grunhard went once.

Surtain has THREE.

Gee, let's see, keep the pick and waste it on the next Cloud/Shehee/Freeman or trade it for a top-of-the-line <i>true</i> cornerback? :hmmm:

Only a moron would want the former.
Are you talking about 2nd round picks only because we have Woods, Tony G and Will Shields who we drafted in that time that have went to Pro Bowls.

That said, this team is way below average in the last 6 years in drafting talent. Busts, tweeners and guys we gave way more potential to than they really had.

HC_Chief
03-08-2005, 06:45 PM
Are you talking about 2nd round picks only because we have Woods, Tony G and Will Shields who we drafted in that time that have went to Pro Bowls

Yep, that was in reference to our 2nd-round selections over the past 12 seasons.

It is horrid... perhaps the worst in the league?

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 06:54 PM
It's not a recent phenomenon. The more I look at our draft history, the more I tend to believe that we've drafted like shit for his entire 16 year tenure. There are a few unquestionable hits, we all know who they are, but overall we've done a terrible job, especially in terms of using the draft to build a strong core of a team.

penchief
03-08-2005, 07:00 PM
Well there it is. Either Law or Surtain now. I would give out a hearty **** you Carl, but it is still too close to the Bell signing.

I like Surtain. IMO, he has pure corner talent. No matter how much they change the rules, I believe he has the natural skills that one needs on the island.

Mr. Kotter
03-08-2005, 07:02 PM
per NFL Network just now

Is this the same NFL Network 'report' that Trotter had signed as a Chief last week?

Anyone seen confirmation of this anywhere?

htismaqe
03-08-2005, 07:15 PM
Ehh, I'm actually not upset about this one. He is WAY overrated as a player and wanted way too much green.

Surtain or Law (or both) would be preferred.

Would have rather had Smoot than Rolle.

Would rather have Surtain than Smoot.

Still not upset about this...

I'm not real happy with doling out the cash for Bell, though, especially if it means no Hartwell...

milkman
03-08-2005, 07:44 PM
Everybody says, let's trade the 2nd rounder for Surtain, because we can't draft.

But hell. our history with FA signings, and trades ain't exactly sparkling either.

Face it, if there's a way to **** it up, Carl is gonna find it.

I'd rather sign Andre Dyson, and keep the pick.
That gives us 2 chances to get at least one thing right.

I know, I know, Surtain is a "proven" commodity.

But so is Dyson, and both have been the #2 corners for their respective teams.
We'd be asking either of them to come in and be the #1 guy here.

eazyb81
03-08-2005, 08:24 PM
Everybody says, let's trade the 2nd rounder for Surtain, because we can't draft.

But hell. our history with FA signings, and trades ain't exactly sparkling either.

Face it, if there's a way to **** it up, Carl is gonna find it.

I'd rather sign Andre Dyson, and keep the pick.
That gives us 2 chances to get at least one thing right.

I know, I know, Surtain is a "proven" commodity.

But so is Dyson, and both have been the #2 corners for their respective teams.
We'd be asking either of them to come in and be the #1 guy here.

No way, Surtain is the definition of a #1 corner. Ask any Dolphin fan and they will tell you that Surtain is the #1 and Madison, although good, is the #2. Surtain is a 3 time Pro Bowler, how many times has Dyson gone?

bringbackmarty
03-08-2005, 09:46 PM
Law is a champion, Surtain is not.
Before he got hurt a lot of people on this board, at espn, at least one guy at about every newspaper in the country called law the "best", or "most complete", or "smartest" cornerback in the game. I don't think he is only about getting paid, he earns his money. He brings fire to the table, and a sense of somene who is able to do his job well. We just don't have anybody like that on this defense.
You can't put a price on it.


I know one thing: When I come back, it's going to be with even more intensity than you have ever seen from me before, believe me," Law said. "Being [sidelined] like this, it's no fun, and you find out how much you miss the game and what a significant part of your life it becomes. If this [injury] taught me anything, it's that I'll never take anything for granted again." -ty law on coming back from his injury. Per espn.com

eazyb81
03-08-2005, 09:49 PM
Law is a champion, Surtain is not.
Before he got hurt a lot of people on this board, at espn, at least one guy at about every newspaper in the country called law the "best", or "most complete", or "smartest" cornerback in the game. I don't think he is only about getting paid, he earns his money. He brings fire to the table, and a sense of somene who is able to do his job well. We just don't have anybody like that on this defense.
You can't put a price on it.


I know one thing: When I come back, it's going to be with even more intensity than you have ever seen from me before, believe me," Law said. "Being [sidelined] like this, it's no fun, and you find out how much you miss the game and what a significant part of your life it becomes. If this [injury] taught me anything, it's that I'll never take anything for granted again." -ty law on coming back from his injury. Per espn.com

I would be all for Law coming to KC, I just don't think King Carl will make it happen. He is all about ego and he doesn't want to look like he listened to Whitlock. If we get either Surtain or Law, I will be ecstatic. But if we end up with Dyson I will be extremely pissed.

ChiTown
03-08-2005, 09:50 PM
Would have rather had Smoot than Rolle.

Would rather have Surtain than Smoot.

Still not upset about this...

I'm not real happy with doling out the cash for Bell, though, especially if it means no Hartwell...

Dit toe

Chiefs Pantalones
03-08-2005, 09:57 PM
I want Surtain and not Dyson, but either way we won't be going to the Super Bowl this year or for awhile, not under this FO and this coaching staff.

keg in kc
03-08-2005, 09:58 PM
Cody, go spank to some porn and stop harshin' my mellow.

Chan93lx50
03-08-2005, 10:06 PM
Be totally honest guys, I would like to see this front office just sign somebody.

LB CB I dont give a shit, at least give us fans something to chew on, we are ****ing starving for Christs sakes!

Chiefs Pantalones
03-08-2005, 10:10 PM
Cody, go spank to some porn and stop harshin' my mellow.

Sorry, but I just don't see it happening, could be wrong, but do I really think I am? No. Possibilities I'm wrong, not likely.

TRR
03-08-2005, 10:55 PM
Smoot was never an option. Only a last resort. Smoot's attitude problem drove away many teams from what I am hearing.