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Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 09:12 AM
Screwín chit up for everybody. :cuss:
Sorry to rant, but Iím still a little shocked over this one.

One of the products the company I work for makes uses an Olympus camera to snap pictures of the vehicle being tracked, Iíve attached a photo of this to a post here before. Recently Olympus quit selling their battery charger as part of the package we purchase and because of the expense of buying it separately itís been decided to shop elsewhere. So yesterday I am tasked with going to Wal-Mart to purchase 20 battery chargers and 20 packs of Nickel Metal Hydride batteries for a shipment of units leaving that day.
Well, when I went to check out I was informed that I could only by four packs of batteries at a time. Turns out itís a result of recent legislation because meth-heads are buying large quantities of batteries and taking them apart for cooking up there drug.

After I got over the shock of only being able to buy so many batteries at one time I thought, just how desperate ya gotta be for a buzz to put freakín battery acid into your body? :shake:
Can anyone explain this chit to me? :shrug:

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 09:15 AM
No I can't explain it. But it pisses me off that I can't buy more then 3 boxes of cold medicine at the store because of these meth heads. Why can't they just smoke pot or drink beer.........

HC_Chief
03-09-2005, 09:15 AM
Meth heads are definitely dumbasses of the first degree. Might as well snort Clorox or mainline bleach.

Saulbadguy
03-09-2005, 09:15 AM
I thought it was only Lithium batteries.

I worked at Batteries Plus, a retail battery sales store, and we were told to report anyone buying large amounts (more than 20) of Lithium batteries (not coin cells). We wouldn't refuse sale.

Bwana
03-09-2005, 09:19 AM
They are real gems indeed. If you ever get any of the useless bastages in your area, birdbombs seem to work well. :evil:

Otter
03-09-2005, 09:19 AM
What puzzles me is why the Goverment is worried about people who want to stick batteries up thier nose. Hell, I'll grind them up for 'em and watch them snort it for kicks.

NewChief
03-09-2005, 09:19 AM
No I can't explain it. But it pisses me off that I can't buy more then 3 boxes of cold medicine at the store because of these meth heads. Why can't they just smoke pot or drink beer.........

Why do you need more than 3 boxes of cold medicine, just out of curiousity?

Saulbadguy
03-09-2005, 09:20 AM
Why do you need more than 3 boxes of cold medicine, just out of curiousity?
Duh. To make meth.

Lzen
03-09-2005, 09:24 AM
Yeah, that is screwed up. I bought a can of air (or I guess it's CO2) at Walmart a couple weeks ago. They had to check ID. I was like "WTF?" Apparently, if you try to purchase more than 2, they will refuse the sale and have security escort you out of the store. :shake: The cashier told me that kids are sniffing this to get a cheap high. But there are a lot of kids that turn into vegetables by doing this.

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 09:25 AM
I thought it was only Lithium batteries.

I worked at Batteries Plus, a retail battery sales store, and we were told to report anyone buying large amounts (more than 20) of Lithium batteries (not coin cells). We wouldn't refuse sale.

Iíve heard of them taking apart Lithium batteries for the Lithium but never heard of using NiMH before, much less legislation for it.

Saulbadguy
03-09-2005, 09:25 AM
I don't think its a law. I think its a Wal-Mart thing. Remember, Wal-Mart is the place you can't buy a cd with "dirty words" on it. It wouldn't surpise me if this is a Wal-Mart only thing.

Phobia
03-09-2005, 09:26 AM
I think they should stop selling hammers. You can really hurt yourself with one of those things.

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 09:26 AM
Why do you need more than 3 boxes of cold medicine, just out of curiousity?






3 kids all different ages, if we get sick then I can't use the same meds I use for the 18 year old for the 3 year old. Most boxes only have 12 pills anyway.....so if we all took 2 each then 1 box is gone in a day. What about the next day. Colds usually last a week. Beside sometimes it is on sell and i want to have it on hand.......Does that answer your question.

Saulbadguy
03-09-2005, 09:26 AM
Iíve heard of them taking apart Lithium batteries for the Lithium but never heard of using NiMH before, much less legislation for it.
Yup. I bet the person you working with is FOS, or stupid. Or both. I think Wal-Mart is behind it too. They have good prices, but they are a very..uh..uptight with their "moralities".

Phobia
03-09-2005, 09:27 AM
3 kids all different ages, if we get sick then I can't use the same meds I use for the 18 year old for the 3 year old. Most boxes only have 12 pills anyway.....so if we all took 2 each then 1 box is gone in a day. What about the next day. Colds usually last a week. Beside sometimes it is on sell and i want to have it on hand.......Does that answer your question.

No. Neg rep for you.

Cochise
03-09-2005, 09:27 AM
Duh. To make meth.

So chiefs4me is a cranker, huh, that explains everything!

Mark M
03-09-2005, 09:27 AM
Yeah, that is screwed up. I bought a can of air (or I guess it's CO2) at Walmart a couple weeks ago. They had to check ID. I was like "WTF?" Apparently, if you try to purchase more than 2, they will refuse the sale and have security escort you out of the store. :shake: The cashier told me that kids are sniffing this to get a cheap high. But there are a lot of kids that turn into vegetables by doing this.

So what about bleach ... or paint ... or glue?

At some point, people need to just let those who want to ruin their brains do so.

MM
~~:shrug:

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 09:28 AM
Duh. To make meth.





I have enough energy for 2 people.....why would I need more......:rolleyes:

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 09:28 AM
Yeah, that is screwed up. I bought a can of air (or I guess it's CO2) at Walmart a couple weeks ago. They had to check ID. I was like "WTF?" Apparently, if you try to purchase more than 2, they will refuse the sale and have security escort you out of the store. :shake: The cashier told me that kids are sniffing this to get a cheap high. But there are a lot of kids that turn into vegetables by doing this.

I was telling one of my coworkers this story yesterday and he told me he got carded for paint. PAINT! :shake:
WTFís wrong with just drinkín a beer and chillín?

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 09:30 AM
No. Neg rep for you.




ROFL.......Like it's really going to matter.

HC_Chief
03-09-2005, 09:31 AM
So what about bleach ... or paint ... or glue?

At some point, people need to just let those who want to ruin their brains do so.

MM
~~:shrug:

Yep... natural selection at work. :thumb:

Phobia
03-09-2005, 09:32 AM
I was telling one of my coworkers this story yesterday and he told me he got carded for paint. PAINT! :shake:
WTFís wrong with just drinkín a beer and chillín?

They can't get beer. They can buy paint and other huffing supplies.

They don't have these stupid social issues in Europe where kids can get beer. My theory is the more you restrict kids the more they will rebel. I kinda know that one from experience....

Lzen
03-09-2005, 09:32 AM
So what about bleach ... or paint ... or glue?

At some point, people need to just let those who want to ruin their brains do so.

MM
~~:shrug:

I agree. But then again, if they turn themselves into vegetables, who ends up paying to care for them? We all do as taxpayers. That's the messed up part about it. Whoever came up with sniffing paint/glue/CO2 should be shot in the head.

Saulbadguy
03-09-2005, 09:32 AM
Crazy glue sniffers.

Phobia
03-09-2005, 09:32 AM
ROFL.......Like it's really going to matter.

Neg rep for ambivolence.

Lzen
03-09-2005, 09:33 AM
They can't get beer. They can buy paint and other huffing supplies.

They don't have these stupid social issues in Europe where kids can get beer. My theory is the more you restrict kids the more they will rebel. I kinda know that one from experience....

Heh, no doubt. I never had much problems getting beer or liquor as a teen. You just gotta know people of age. ;) Frankly, I think it's BS that we send 17 year olds to war but they can't even buy beer.
:shake:

Mark M
03-09-2005, 09:34 AM
I agree. But then again, if they turn themselves into vegetables, who ends up paying to care for them? We all do as taxpayers. That's the messed up part about it. Whoever came up with sniffing paint/glue/CO2 should be shot in the head.

Make Duhnise pay for it ...

her being the bleeding heart and all.

;)

Seriously,though, there needs to be a caveat to state or federally funded care:

If you did it to yourself, no health care for you!

MM
~~:shrug:

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 09:35 AM
Neg rep for ambivolence.








ROFL.....................PBJ

Mark M
03-09-2005, 09:35 AM
They can't get beer. They can buy paint and other huffing supplies.

They don't have these stupid social issues in Europe where kids can get beer. My theory is the more you restrict kids the more they will rebel. I kinda know that one from experience....

DING! DING! DING!

MM
~~:clap:

HC_Chief
03-09-2005, 09:35 AM
Make Duhnise pay for it ...

her being the bleeding heart and all.

Never happen...would mean she would have to get off her fat ass and get a job.

beavis
03-09-2005, 09:38 AM
What puzzles me is why the Goverment is worried about people who want to stick batteries up thier nose. Hell, I'll grind them up for 'em and watch them snort it for kicks.
Exactly. The fewer dumbasses there are out there to have to deal with, the better.

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 09:38 AM
Heh, no doubt. I never had much problems getting beer or liquor as a teen. You just gotta know people of age. ;) Frankly, I think it's BS that we send 17 year olds to war but they can't even buy beer.
:shake:

May be part of it. When I was in high school the legal drinking age was 18, so we never had a problem getting beer. Maybe thatís why we never thought of snorting freakín battery acid. :hmmm:

mikey23545
03-09-2005, 09:42 AM
So what about bleach ... or paint ... or glue?

At some point, people need to just let those who want to ruin their brains do so.

MM
~~:shrug:

Yeah, when you're the retail chain that's going to get sued by some derelict parent and her money-sucking lawyer for her little retard ruining his brain with stuff they bought at your store, it's not quite as easy being as "progressive minded" as yourself....

BIG_DADDY
03-09-2005, 09:43 AM
Screwín chit up for everybody. :cuss:
Sorry to rant, but Iím still a little shocked over this one.

One of the products the company I work for makes uses an Olympus camera to snap pictures of the vehicle being tracked:

Oh no don't tell me your one of those guys, not you man.

yunghungwell
03-09-2005, 09:44 AM
Many stores are having to put Enfamil baby formula behind a counter because of its pure white color. The meth makers use it to cut a batch of meth in order to make it stretch farther. Of course, Wal-Mart has every kind of baby formula behind a counter and the derelicts that Wal-Mart employs can't tell the effin' difference in the kinds of formulas. Fock Wallyworld, Target is cheaper anyway.

mikey23545
03-09-2005, 09:51 AM
You must have Targets with entirely different price structures where you live.

yunghungwell
03-09-2005, 09:58 AM
Target is only cheaper on the specific formula that my "old lady" decided to use. Everything else under the sun, cheaper at Wal-Mart.

mikey23545
03-09-2005, 10:00 AM
Target is only cheaper on the specific formula that my "old lady" decided to use. Everything else under the sun, cheaper at Wal-Mart.

Ahhh...I see.

Skip Towne
03-09-2005, 10:01 AM
What's wrong with a little meth every now and then? It's good clean fun.

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 10:02 AM
What's wrong with a little meth every now and then? It's good clean fun.




:spank:

HC_Chief
03-09-2005, 10:04 AM
What's wrong with a little meth every now and then? It's good clean fun.

Well, it <i>is</i> comprised primarily of bleach and ammonia, so technically....

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 10:07 AM
Oh no don't tell me your one of those guys, not you man.

I donít write the tickets, Iím just a lilíole technician that works on the product.

BIG_DADDY
03-09-2005, 10:10 AM
I donít write the tickets, Iím just a lilíole technician that works on the product.

Every time I see one of those things I want to take out a gun and blow the ****ing thing away. I have never received a ticket from one yet but the day I do I swear I will take one out just to get even. Does that reflecto spray work to keep it from being able to record your plate information correctly?

Skip Towne
03-09-2005, 10:12 AM
Well, it <i>is</i> comprised primarily of bleach and ammonia, so technically....
Exactly. It does make me steal bikes though.

BIG_DADDY
03-09-2005, 10:13 AM
I donít write the tickets, Iím just a lilíole technician that works on the product.

I know your just a soldier following orders your not responsible. :moon:

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 10:17 AM
Every time I see one of those things I want to take out a gun and blow the ****ing thing away. I have never received a ticket from one yet but the day I do I swear I will take one out just to get even. Does that reflecto spray work to keep it from being able to record your plate information correctly?

Naw, there are several ways around it through filtering.
As far as I know theyíre only using photos for red light runners. So far.
Most of what Iím working on goes overseas.

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 10:17 AM
I know your just a soldier following orders your not responsible. :moon:

Donít hate the playah, hate the game. ;)

Lzen
03-09-2005, 10:19 AM
Naw, there are several ways around it through filtering.


Do tell. :hmmm:

Phobia
03-09-2005, 10:19 AM
Naw, there are several ways around it through filtering.
As far as I know theyíre only using photos for red light runners. So far.
Most of what Iím working on goes overseas.

And for perceived toll booth evaders.

I just go down the middle of 2 lanes. Heh. Just kidding. I pay my tolls.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 10:23 AM
Many stores are having to put Enfamil baby formula behind a counter because of its pure white color. The meth makers use it to cut a batch of meth in order to make it stretch farther.

Haha... you're kidding. So, what, stores have an interest in making sure the meth users don't get weak shit? "I'm sorry, we will not be a party to you stepping on the product. That's our commitment to community."

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 10:25 AM
As far as I know theyíre only using photos for red light runners. So far.

Who is the "they" you're referring to? In Phoenix they use cameras to ticket speeders as well. Not sure when it started... I moved in AZ in Jan 2001 and it was already in place then.

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 10:26 AM
Do tell. :hmmm:

Intellectual property. If I told ya Iíd be obligated to kill ya. ;)

gblowfish
03-09-2005, 10:28 AM
Yeah, that is screwed up. I bought a can of air (or I guess it's CO2) at Walmart a couple weeks ago. They had to check ID. I was like "WTF?" Apparently, if you try to purchase more than 2, they will refuse the sale and have security escort you out of the store. :shake: The cashier told me that kids are sniffing this to get a cheap high. But there are a lot of kids that turn into vegetables by doing this.Wal Mart doesn't want you to do anything to yourself that will make you die, so they don't lose a consumer.
But they'll sell you all the pork rinds, mountain dew and skoal you can fit in a shopping cart. And don't forget to pick up a couple of assualt rifles in the sporting goods department!

Phobia
03-09-2005, 10:30 AM
Wal Mart doesn't want you to do anything to yourself that will make you die, so they don't lose a consumer.
But they'll sell you all the pork rinds, mountain dew and skoal you can fit in a shopping cart. And don't forget to pick up a couple of assualt rifles in the sporting goods department!

Pork rinds don't kill people. Fried pig fat does.

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 10:30 AM
Who is the "they" you're referring to? In Phoenix they use cameras to ticket speeders as well. Not sure when it started... I moved in AZ in Jan 2001 and it was already in place then.

Really, I hadnít heard of that.
Know anyone thatís gotten a speeding ticket in the mail?
As far as I knew an officer had to be present to hand a ticket to you and get your signature. Sometimes that ticket goes to court with the photo attached, relieving the officer from having to show up, but thatís not necessarily the case all over the US either.

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 10:33 AM
Wal Mart doesn't want you to do anything to yourself that will make you die, so they don't lose a consumer.
But they'll sell you all the pork rinds, mountain dew and skoal you can fit in a shopping cart. And don't forget to pick up a couple of assualt rifles in the sporting goods department!

Not at the Wal-Marts Iíve seen.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 10:34 AM
Know anyone thatís gotten a speeding ticket in the mail?

Yes.

Iowanian
03-09-2005, 10:35 AM
There are ALOT of products restricted due to meth manufacturing.

Go to your hardware store and try to buy some acid to refinish a bathtub. Buy a case of Ether or a couple gallons of paint thinner. Farmers whose Anahydrous tank lines get cut are sure big fans too.

What gets me is the "creativity" and chemistry used by some of the absolute morons who make the stuff.

One of my HS friends has been in and out of trouble with this crap since...Clean for the last 2 years, and I kind of believe him this time.

The Bad part about the Infamil, is that most of the Formula being used, is gotten through WIC and other welfare programs..........and instead of being used to nourish the neglected child........It cuts the Dope so they can make a little extra cash. I LOVE my tax dollars being used for that.

He told me of a process with a cattle water tank, electricity charged through a coil around a metal rod, and Stolen Cattle Salt Blocks to get some of the ingredients if they take Cold pills off the market.

Who knew you could get Effidrine? from a salt block?

Some of those guys should be working for a cure for Cancer, instead of a new way to make that dope.

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 10:46 AM
Yes.

:hmmm: Iíll have to contact our salesman for the area. Most of the cams weíre selling are going overseas, and if itís legal in AZ weíre missing out on a pretty good-sized market.
Think the weasely fugger would share some of his commission with me? :rolleyes:

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 10:47 AM
Exactly. It does make me steal bikes though.


Damn you people.




On a related note, if anyone remembers the story about the rapist that was running rampant through my neighborhood, there are two potential updates.

First, they found a woman's body in an apartment last night two blocks from the vacant apartment that this guy had broken into and was hiding in. (This is four blocks from my house.) No word yet on whether he killed her, but I sure bet that's what happened. They caught him two weeks ago, but this woman hadn't been seen in longer than that, and the neighbors just thought she was on vacation. (Let me say once again that my neighborhood has a low crime rate except for this lunatic.)

Second, they posted a big, long story about what this guy was doing during the seven months between the time he got out of prison and being caught two weeks ago. Once he got out, he lived at a guy's house in another nearby city to Denver, and picked up the woman across the street as his girlfriend. She had two young sons, one of whom he molested, but the key part of that story is that he gave the kid a bike as a gift. I'll bet he stole my bike.

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 10:49 AM
Farmers whose Anahydrous tank lines get cut are sure big fans too.

That ainít no chit. The problems gotten so bad around here that one of the sheriffís set up a decoy anhydrous tank to catch the fuggers in the process.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 10:50 AM
if itís legal in AZ weíre missing out on a pretty good-sized market.

The market might not be so good here in awhile. I'll go searching... but, awhile back I read a story about some AZ legislators trying to get something passed to reduce the number of speeding cameras.

I've got a buddy who's really in favor of speeding tickets via camera. Apparently he's found that they're easier to beat... not to mention a camera can't give you a field sobriety test, or search your car for weed.

KC Kings
03-09-2005, 10:51 AM
3 kids all different ages, if we get sick then I can't use the same meds I use for the 18 year old for the 3 year old. Most boxes only have 12 pills anyway.....so if we all took 2 each then 1 box is gone in a day. What about the next day. Colds usually last a week. Beside sometimes it is on sell and i want to have it on hand.......Does that answer your question.

Runny nose cold and a cough cold are two different medicines. Throw in an ear infection and you alternate ibuprofin and tylenol. I have taken plenty of late night trips to the 24 hour drug store to by medicine for sick kids that won't go to sleep, and I when I go through Osco I look for sale/coupon/rebate items, and buy a bunch.

However, when it comes to my kids I try to stay away from any medicine with ephidrine, and look for meds that "may cause drowsiness". If a kid has to be sick, they might as well sleep it off.

NewChief
03-09-2005, 10:52 AM
He told me of a process with a cattle water tank, electricity charged through a coil around a metal rod, and Stolen Cattle Salt Blocks to get some of the ingredients if they take Cold pills off the market.

Who knew you could get Effidrine? from a salt block?



Yeah. I saw some special the other night about regulating sale of products with ephedrine. The dude from enforcement was saying, "Bottom line. Without cold medicine and ephedrine, you can't make meth." Who the hell is he kidding? Just because you regulate ephedrine, you're not going to stop meth. They'll find a new way to make it. Failing that, the "big" labs will find a way to make ephedrine.

That being said, I really hate the shit. My brother had (and might still have) a horrible problem with it. On top of that, it's a freaking toxic waste dump every time some cook cleans out his ingredients. I'm tired of driving to a local stream and finding the junk from a meth lab dumped into the water or alongside the county road.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 10:53 AM
Ah, I guess they're trying to specifically restrict putting photo radar on the highway.

http://www.asuwebdevil.com/issues/2005/02/08/news/691826

I thought this was choice:

The fine from speeding tickets would remain at $157.

Gah!

yunghungwell
03-09-2005, 10:56 AM
Haha... you're kidding. So, what, stores have an interest in making sure the meth users don't get weak shit? "I'm sorry, we will not be a party to you stepping on the product. That's our commitment to community."

Noooo...If not locked up behind a counter the tweakers steal it. End, I am going to let you in on a secret. Everything (well, almost everything) in life, especially at Wal-Mart is about money.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 10:57 AM
Noooo...If not locked up behind a counter the tweakers steal it.

Bah, my way's funnier.

yunghungwell
03-09-2005, 11:01 AM
agreed

Lzen
03-09-2005, 11:02 AM
Wal Mart doesn't want you to do anything to yourself that will make you die, so they don't lose a consumer.
But they'll sell you all the pork rinds, mountain dew and skoal you can fit in a shopping cart. And don't forget to pick up a couple of assualt rifles in the sporting goods department!

Eh, I'm sure you were just being facetious but, I don't recall ever seeing assault rifles in Walmart.
:shake:

Iowanian
03-09-2005, 11:02 AM
Once in a while........the govt should just put out 1 really big, really bad batch of Meth in each state.

yunghungwell
03-09-2005, 11:03 AM
Yeah. I saw some special the other night about regulating sale of products with ephedrine. The dude from enforcement was saying, "Bottom line. Without cold medicine and ephedrine, you can't make meth." Who the hell is he kidding? Just because you regulate ephedrine, you're not going to stop meth. They'll find a new way to make it. Failing that, the "big" labs will find a way to make ephedrine.

That being said, I really hate the shit. My brother had (and might still have) a horrible problem with it. On top of that, it's a freaking toxic waste dump every time some cook cleans out his ingredients. I'm tired of driving to a local stream and finding the junk from a meth lab dumped into the water or alongside the county road.

I saw that same report and laughed. They might cut down on the number of labs in MO, but the effing tweakers will still get meth. Statistics say that most of it comes from California or Mexico anyway.

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 11:07 AM
Once in a while........the govt should just put out 1 really big, really bad batch of Meth in each state.





priceless...:thumb:

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 11:10 AM
Damn you people.




On a related note, if anyone remembers the story about the rapist that was running rampant through my neighborhood, there are two potential updates.

First, they found a woman's body in an apartment last night two blocks from the vacant apartment that this guy had broken into and was hiding in. (This is four blocks from my house.) No word yet on whether he killed her, but I sure bet that's what happened. They caught him two weeks ago, but this woman hadn't been seen in longer than that, and the neighbors just thought she was on vacation. (Let me say once again that my neighborhood has a low crime rate except for this lunatic.)

Second, they posted a big, long story about what this guy was doing during the seven months between the time he got out of prison and being caught two weeks ago. Once he got out, he lived at a guy's house in another nearby city to Denver, and picked up the woman across the street as his girlfriend. She had two young sons, one of whom he molested, but the key part of that story is that he gave the kid a bike as a gift. I'll bet he stole my bike.




Gosh that sucks, I remember your story and it was in the Dallas paper down here. I feel so sorry for that little boy. I wish he would of done this in TX...we would of taken care of him, and fast.

badgirl
03-09-2005, 11:11 AM
My son and I were into model cars big time when we were in TX a couple years back he was 17, mind you, and they wouldn't let him buy the paint we used which was spray paint for the body of the car, my son barely takes the drugs the dr. gives him and when he does have too he takes them not one minutes sooner than he's suppose to

Last year in school he was a sr, he had turned 18 and had antibotics , in their bottle with his name on them and took them to school to take his prescribed dose, well they call me and I have to go to the school, sign for him to take them and he has to leave some them in the office and pick them up at the end of the day ANTIBOTICS what the hell.

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 11:12 AM
Once in a while........the govt should just put out 1 really big, really bad batch of Meth in each state.


I think I'm going to suggest that to my congressman.

Iowanian
03-09-2005, 11:13 AM
That is alot more about school Liability badgranny.

If Jr takes those pills, even though prescribed, and you didn't do that.....you sue the school when he has a bad reaction.

I'm sure its happened, and I'm sure thats why.

MOhillbilly
03-09-2005, 11:15 AM
meth heads are cool.


if you like property crime.:mad:

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 11:18 AM
The local greyhound bus company had a sting last week in our little ole city. The bus was coming from CAL........anyway they made a 2 million dollar bust. The kid carrying the stuff had poured the liquid in gatorade bottles......ROFL

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:21 AM
The local greyhound bus company had a sting last week in our little ole city. The bus was coming from CAL........anyway they made a 2 million dollar bust.

Uh-huh. Cause when I'm hauling two million bucks worth of illegal substances around, I go Greyhound!

badgirl
03-09-2005, 11:21 AM
That is alot more about school Liability badgranny.

If Jr takes those pills, even though prescribed, and you didn't do that.....you sue the school when he has a bad reaction.

I'm sure its happened, and I'm sure thats why.
Your probably correct about that, I've never even thought of it that way. :thumb:

badgirl
03-09-2005, 11:22 AM
Uh-huh. Cause when I'm hauling two million bucks worth of illegal substances around, I go Greyhound!
I rent a car and hide it then when they find It I can say "hey it must have already been there , its not mine. :thumb: J/K, I've never done that.

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 11:25 AM
Uh-huh. Cause when I'm hauling two million bucks worth of illegal substances around, I go Greyhound!




Whatever.....do a google search for the article. Greenville Tx Hearld Banner or the Dallas Morning news. People carry all kinds of drugs on a bus. The ringleader gets some young teenager and pay them a couple of thousand dollars to move it thru. If they get caught oh well....

Iowanian
03-09-2005, 11:27 AM
At least he didn't have to worrry about getting his car impounded.

MOhillbilly
03-09-2005, 11:27 AM
I remember a bust in Spfld 10yrs back or so where a drug dog went through the greyhound terminal and busted a guy w/ acouple gal. of PCP.

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 11:29 AM
I rent a car and hide it then when they find It I can say "hey it must have already been there , its not mine. :thumb: J/K, I've never done that.






Girlfriend you lived here, so you know that an out of state plate or rental car is gonna get stopped before a speeding Tx plate holder. Bob Dole knows what I am talking about, our little stretch of highway I-30 is the road to Dallas and every week there is a drug bust. People will do anything not to have to come thru Greenville on their way to Dallas.

badgirl
03-09-2005, 11:30 AM
I have worked with people who are on that meth really bad they look like their cloths are on hangers other than a body, dark circles under their eyes, sores on their body. ugggghhhh.

As I've put on here before my daughters friend developed brain tumors and the dr said it was from the meth, the chemicals causes brain tumors if you do it long enough and enough of it.

God that sickens me.

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 11:31 AM
At least he didn't have to worrry about getting his car impounded.



Nope and he is sitting here in the local jail begging to be sent back to Cal.

Rausch
03-09-2005, 11:31 AM
Uh-huh. Cause when I'm hauling two million bucks worth of illegal substances around, I go Greyhound!

After Gilligan tried to send some pot UPS nothing surprises me...

badgirl
03-09-2005, 11:32 AM
Girlfriend you lived here, so you know that an out of state plate or rental car is gonna get stopped before a speeding Tx plate holder. Bob Dole knows what I am talking about, our little stretch of highway I-30 is the road to Dallas and every week there is a drug bust. People will do anything not to have to come thru Greenville on their way to Dallas.
I've made this trip several times from here to san antonio, going through dallas, but never went through greenville.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:33 AM
If they get caught oh well....

Hahahaha. "Oh well". Yeah, I know that's what I say when I lose two million dollars.

Mark M
03-09-2005, 11:36 AM
This reminds me of something ...

I live off of 291 in Indpenendence. There's a building by the side of the road-- part of a business no longer in business. Someone spray painted "I LOVE METH" on the side of it.

About a week later, some enterprising person changed the "E" in "METH" to and "A."

Not sure why I found that so funny, but graffiti that says "I LOVE MATH" just cracks me up.

MM
~~:LOL:

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:37 AM
After Gilligan tried to send some pot UPS nothing surprises me...
I've sent pot via UPS before.

MOhillbilly
03-09-2005, 11:38 AM
I have worked with people who are on that meth really bad they look like their cloths are on hangers other than a body, dark circles under their eyes, sores on their body. ugggghhhh.

As I've put on here before my daughters friend developed brain tumors and the dr said it was from the meth, the chemicals causes brain tumors if you do it long enough and enough of it.

God that sickens me.

Ive known dudes that have mainlined speed(off and on) since the late 60s and ive never heard of brain tumors. Though HEP C is a strong concern.
Ive also had lots of people cross my path that were from casual user to hardcore abuser and never heard of tumors.
I did hear it made you brain crumble. WTF knows. its nasty shit and only a fool would try it.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:38 AM
Not sure why I found that so funny, but graffiti that says "I LOVE MATH" just cracks me up.

Ha. That is funny.

NewChief
03-09-2005, 11:39 AM
Hahahaha. "Oh well". Yeah, I know that's what I say when I lose two million dollars.

ROFL

Don't you ever start to feel guilty? Kind of like taking candy from a baby, isn't it?

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 11:40 AM
Hahahaha. "Oh well". Yeah, I know that's what I say when I lose two million dollars.








I don't know what you meant by this. I said oh well because it's not my money, I didn't lose anything.

The person carrying the drugs knows that if they get caught they are going to jail. The person sending the drug runner knows that if his runner gets caught he is out 2 million dollars or more. So like I said, they know the risks, oh well to them.:thumb:

Mark M
03-09-2005, 11:40 AM
I've sent pot via UPS before.

I never did get that, BTW.

I want my $50 back.

MM
~~:bong:

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:42 AM
I don't know what you meant by this.

I'm not surprised.

I am a little surprised that you honestly believe there's a shadowy drug kingpin out there who just hands over two million dollars worth of product to "some kid" and just shrugs it off if it doesn't get where it's going. That is an unbelievable level of stupidity.

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 11:43 AM
I've sent pot via UPS before.


I think he was talking about United Parcel Service, not Underground Pothead Service.

Saulbadguy
03-09-2005, 11:43 AM
If you get it there, thats great. If not, oh well. Mmkay...

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 11:44 AM
ROFL

Don't you ever start to feel guilty? Kind of like taking candy from a baby, isn't it?





FU.....why should I care at all that some ****ing drug runner got busted or lost 2 million dollars.....please tell me why i should care?

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:44 AM
I never did get that, BTW.

I want my $50 back.

MM
~~:bong:
Heh, my package got exactly where it was going.

Funnily enough, it was disguised as a birthday present... and by pure chance arrived on the recipient's birthday.

Happy birthday! Let's get stoned!

Saulbadguy
03-09-2005, 11:45 AM
FU.....why should I care at all that some ****ing drug runner got busted or lost 2 million dollars.....please tell me why i should care?
ROFL

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 11:45 AM
FU.....why should I care at all that some ****ing drug runner got busted or lost 2 million dollars.....please tell me why i should care?


I need some background information on you first. Are you a Colombian coca field worker?

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:46 AM
FU.....why should I care at all that some ****ing drug runner got busted or lost 2 million dollars.....please tell me why i should care?
Yeah, this wording makes it sound like it's *you* that doesn't care.

The ringleader gets some young teenager and pay them a couple of thousand dollars to move it thru. If they get caught oh well....

NewChief
03-09-2005, 11:46 AM
The latest is called..."meth mouth."

Sounds like something off of Saturday Morning Schoolhouse Rock cartoons (that why guy, Mush Mouth).

Anyway, the prison systems are seeing huge problems with tooth decay. As in an entire mouth of teeth rotting in the space of a year. Evidently the chemicals in meth, combined with the crappy diets of users and the incessant grinding of teeth that speed cases is a bad recipe for oral hygeine. They're just pulling full sets of prisoners' teeth.

Going to do wonders for these folks when they try to go straight. Nothing says hireability like having a total of two teeth in your mouth.

badgirl
03-09-2005, 11:46 AM
Ive known dudes that have mainlined speed(off and on) since the late 60s and ive never heard of brain tumors. Though HEP C is a strong concern.
Ive also had lots of people cross my path that were from casual user to hardcore abuser and never heard of tumors.
I did hear it made you brain crumble. WTF knows. its nasty shit and only a fool would try it.
Thats what the Dr. told her, she has one on the side of her brain and the other on the brain stem which cannot be removed, she now has seizures and is slightly retarded the chemicals will definately f*ck you up

while she was hospitalized with this I looked up meth and side effects on the internet and it talked about it causeing brain tumors also.

Thank God my daughter got away from it unhurt. I'm thankful everyday for that, she was roommates with this girl.

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 11:47 AM
I think he was talking about United Parcel Service, not Underground Pothead Service.unquestionably pitiful slapstick

Mark M
03-09-2005, 11:47 AM
Heh, my package got exactly where it was going.

Funnily enough, it was disguised as a birthday present... and by pure chance arrived on the recipient's birthday.

Happy birthday! Let's get stoned!

Just so you know, my birthday is June 12.

MM
~~:D

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:48 AM
Going to do wonders for these folks when they try to go straight. Nothing says hireability like having a total of two teeth in your mouth.

If only there were an industry that produced artifical teeth for folks who had lost their real ones. Heck, I bet they'd have a strong market in old people, too.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:49 AM
Just so you know, my birthday is June 12.

MM
~~:D
Don't worry, I'll forget.

I'd been friends with that guy for years, and didn't remember it was his birthday until he told me.

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 11:49 AM
unquestionably pitiful slapstick


Understandably pithy statement

NewChief
03-09-2005, 11:49 AM
If only there were an industry that produced artifical teeth for folks who had lost their real ones. Heck, I bet they'd have a strong market in old people, too.

Hey! Dentures ain't cheap. Just ask Skip.

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 11:50 AM
If only there were an industry that produced artifical teeth for folks who had lost their real ones. Heck, I bet they'd have a strong market in old people, too.


It'd never work.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 11:50 AM
Hey! Dentures ain't cheap. Just ask Skip.
No worries. I'll just steal a set from an old person.

Damnit, back to the joint I go.

badgirl
03-09-2005, 11:52 AM
No worries. I'll just steal a set from an old person.

Damnit, back to the joint I go.
you'd have to be quiet the man to steal dentures, when I have worked in hospitals, and even a nursing home, hated touching those things. :Lin:

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 11:52 AM
I'll bet that in the next 20 years or so, there becomes a big market for decorative dentures. Why settle for pearly whites when you can go with a nice bright red with a Chiefs logo on each tooth? Mark my words, it'll be the next Microsoft.

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 11:53 AM
you'd have to be quiet the man to steal dentures, when I have worked in hospitals, and even a nursing home, hated touching those things. :Lin:


I think the key would be to wait until the people take them out.

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 11:55 AM
Hay, Brian, you're quiet the man. Your maby the bigest looser evar.

badgirl
03-09-2005, 11:56 AM
I think the key would be to wait until the people take them out.
sometime they weren't able and I would have to do it,..I have saw many thing in the hospitals I've worked , legs cut off, blood dripping in the floor off the beds, people dying of gangreen, cancer, all kinds of crap, but nothing has brought a lump in my throat like doing mouth care on someone who is unable, but hey it has to be done.

God it almost makes me feel sick thinking about it.

badgirl
03-09-2005, 11:58 AM
Hay, Brian, you're quiet the man. Your maby the bigest looser evar.
I'm not even going down that road :shake:

Rausch
03-09-2005, 11:58 AM
Hay, Brian, you're quiet the man. Your maby the bigest looser evar.

Wow.

That reminds me, there's this poem some girl wrote and submitted to the LU magazine....it hurt me, deep down, to have to read it...

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 11:59 AM
sometime they weren't able and I would have to do it,..I have saw many thing in the hospitals I've worked , legs cut off, blood dripping in the floor off the beds, people dying of gangreen, cancer, all kinds of crap, but nothing has brought a lump in my throat like doing mouth care on someone who is unable, but hey it has to be done.

God it almost makes me feel sick thinking about it.


I had a guy in a focus group once who had a speech impediment. In the big picture, that's probably not as bad as your story, though.


(Seriously, I respect the heck out of health care folks. I couldn't do it.)

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 11:59 AM
I could never do healthcare. *shudder*

Lzen
03-09-2005, 12:00 PM
unquestionably pitiful slapstick

I laughed. :)

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 12:01 PM
I'm not surprised.

I am a little surprised that you honestly believe there's a shadowy drug kingpin out there who just hands over two million dollars worth of product to "some kid" and just shrugs it off if it doesn't get where it's going. That is an unbelievable level of stupidity.



:shake: Do you really believe that the kingpin in charge is running his own drugs? Do you really believe he sends his runner to the buyer with an IOU for the drug? I know more then I should about how some of these drug runners work, I can't and won't prove it, but you are the stupid one if you think otherwise.:harumph:

badgirl
03-09-2005, 12:01 PM
I could never do healthcare. *shudder*
I could tell you stories that would blow your mind, also make you vomit, so for respect for you guys I won't

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 12:01 PM
That reminds me, there's this poem some girl wrote and submitted to the LU magazine....it hurt me, deep down, to have to read it...I know that feeling. I get it everytime I read something I write. :sulk:

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 12:03 PM
I could tell you stories that would blow your mind, also make you vomit, so for respect for you guys I won'tThank you. I actually have a psychological issue with places and people I associate with "medical". Haven't been to a doctor outside the ER in, what's it been now, 13 years. I'm sure I'm rotting from the inside out because of it, but I just can't handle the places.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 12:04 PM
:shake: Do you really believe that the kingpin in charge is running his own drugs? Do you really believe he sends his runner to the buyer with an IOU for the drug? I know more then I should about how some of these drug runners work, I can't and won't prove it, but you are the stupid one if you think otherwise.:harumph:
As long as we're assessing my surprise, I'll state for the record that I'm not at all surprised that you're missing the point.

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 12:07 PM
As long as we're assessing my surprise, I'll state for the record that I'm not at all surprised that you're missing the point.





I really don't know how these people have put up with you for so long. You just turn everything negative and into a pissing match or wanna show someones faults. Personally you take the fun out of it, you just sap the fun right out of every thread.....have a great day you all.......see ya later.

NewChief
03-09-2005, 12:10 PM
I really don't know how these people have put up with you for so long. You just turn everything negative and into a pissing match or wanna show someones faults. Personally you take the fun out of it, you just sap the fun right out of every thread.....have a great day you all.......see ya later.

I think you should start a poll calling for End's banning.

Mark M
03-09-2005, 12:10 PM
I really don't know how these people have put up with you for so long. You just turn everything negative and into a pissing match or wanna show someones faults. Personally you take the fun out of it, you just sap the fun right out of every thread.....have a great day you all.......see ya later.

I think someone just took their marbles and went home.

Of course, on the bright side he didn't start a whole new thread about it.

MM
~~:)

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 12:11 PM
I really don't know how these people have put up with you for so long. You just turn everything negative and into a pissing match or wanna show someones faults. Personally you take the fun out of it, you just sap the fun right out of every thread.....Yeah, that's delt in a nutshell. He's like a blackhole, sucking the joy out of life.

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 12:11 PM
:shake: Do you really believe that the kingpin in charge is running his own drugs? Do you really believe he sends his runner to the buyer with an IOU for the drug? I know more then I should about how some of these drug runners work, I can't and won't prove it, but you are the stupid one if you think otherwise.:harumph:


If I wanted to go as a tourist, what's the best time of year to visit Medellin?

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 12:12 PM
wanna show someones faults.

Actually, you do a fine job of exposing those on your own. I just like to point and laugh.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 12:12 PM
I think someone just took their marbles and went home.

Of course, on the bright side he didn't start a whole new thread about it.

MM
~~:)
Pssst... "she"

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 12:14 PM
Pssst... "she"There you go again, pointing out faults. Asshole.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 12:15 PM
There you go again, pointing out faults. Asshole.
Hahaha. My bad.

Mark M
03-09-2005, 12:16 PM
Pssst... "she"

I really don't know how these people have put up with you for so long. You just turn everything negative and into a pissing match or wanna show someones faults. Personally you take the fun out of it, you just sap the fun right out of every thread.....have a great day you all.......see ya later.

MM
~~:D

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 12:17 PM
Yeah, that's delt in a nutshell. He's like a blackhole, sucking the joy out of life.

ďHoleĒ? ďSuckingĒ?
Wow, step out for lunch and miss all the fun.

badgirl
03-09-2005, 12:19 PM
Yea Endelt you hole sucking pansy. :p

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 12:19 PM
ďHoleĒ? ďSuckingĒ?
Wow, step out for lunch and miss all the fun.
Ha, man I forgot you even started this thread.

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 12:19 PM
ďHoleĒ? ďSuckingĒ?Add "gaping" to that, and it sums up some interesting porn I saw yesterday. But I digress.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 12:20 PM
Add "gaping" to that, and it sums up some interesting porn I saw yesterday. But I digress.
Is this one of those times when "interesting" isn't a good thing?

Iowanian
03-09-2005, 12:21 PM
I don't know what you meant by this. I said oh well because it's not my money, I didn't lose anything.

The person carrying the drugs knows that if they get caught they are going to jail. The person sending the drug runner knows that if his runner gets caught he is out 2 million dollars or more. So like I said, they know the risks, oh well to them.:thumb:

Actually....you do lose something.

It costs your local jail about $75-100/day to house that fugger. You know where that money comes from?

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 12:22 PM
Is this one of those times when "interesting" isn't a good thing?Let's just say I'm not often frightened by porn, but this chick...just wasn't natural.

Saulbadguy
03-09-2005, 12:23 PM
Its times like these that make me lean back and think to myself "Damn, I love this place."

HemiEd
03-09-2005, 01:04 PM
Hay, Brian, you're quiet the man. Your maby the bigest looser evar.

he he, another episode! ROFL

Iowanian
03-09-2005, 01:25 PM
I was thinking that alot of healthcare sounds nasty...I know brideowanian has told some nasty stories over the years.

While taking out teeth sounds tramatic....I'd do it 100 times before wiping an arse.

(dislaimer: Hypothetical situation not relating to any real life individual case)
I also don't think it sounds nearly as nasty, as going in to work on a disgustingly obeise person thats had gastric bypass, and the surgery to remove the extra flab of skin...who didn't keep it clean, letting it get infected and is a gaping 5' long foot wide open wound, that you have to put your shoulder into a fat roll like a tacklin' sled to push it out of the way, to scrub the cheesy infection out of to medicate the wound.

Nurses don't get paid enough.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 01:27 PM
as going in to work on a disgustingly obeise person thats had gastric bypass, and the surgery to remove the extra flab of skin...who didn't keep it clean, letting it get infected and is a gaping 5' long foot wide open wound, that you have to put your shoulder into a fat roll like a tacklin' sled to push it out of the way, to scrub the cheesy infection out of to medicate the wound.

Please... go back to writing poo-poo poems.

Ugh.

stumppy
03-09-2005, 01:29 PM
Anyone want my cottage cheese and crackers ? I seemed to have lost my appetite.

go bowe
03-09-2005, 01:31 PM
I was thinking that alot of healthcare sounds nasty...I know brideowanian has told some nasty stories over the years.

While taking out teeth sounds tramatic....I'd do it 100 times before wiping an arse. I also don't think it sounds nearly as nasty, as going in to work on a disgustingly obeise person thats had gastric bypass, and the surgery to remove the extra flab of skin...who didn't keep it clean, letting it get infected and is a gaping 5' long foot wide open wound, that you have to put your shoulder into a fat roll like a tacklin' sled to push it out of the way, to scrub the cheesy infection out of to medicate the wound.

Nurses don't get paid enough.amen to that, brother...

Coach
03-09-2005, 01:35 PM
Well, the Dollar General store that my mother is the manager, she called me up and informed me that the Dollar General store was broken in last night, and apparently there are some cold meds that have been taken. She doesn't know how much exactly, was taken, but she can tell that there are quite alot of cold meds. that are missing.

F**kin meth-heads :shake:

ChiefsOne
03-09-2005, 01:36 PM
The government shouldn't punish the majority of the population that wants these products for ligitiment uses.

If the meth heads want to make meth, let them and it will kill them off faster, natural Darwinism.

badgirl
03-09-2005, 01:39 PM
I was thinking that alot of healthcare sounds nasty...I know brideowanian has told some nasty stories over the years.

While taking out teeth sounds tramatic....I'd do it 100 times before wiping an arse.

(dislaimer: Hypothetical situation not relating to any real life individual case)
I also don't think it sounds nearly as nasty, as going in to work on a disgustingly obeise person thats had gastric bypass, and the surgery to remove the extra flab of skin...who didn't keep it clean, letting it get infected and is a gaping 5' long foot wide open wound, that you have to put your shoulder into a fat roll like a tacklin' sled to push it out of the way, to scrub the cheesy infection out of to medicate the wound.

Nurses don't get paid enough.
There was a lady who was admitted into CCU when I worked there, she was having cardiac arrest, she was the filthist woman I have ever say, we had to cut her clothes off and the smell would throw a healthy person into cardiac arrest themselves, oh some people, dear God....

I know I didn't get paid enough. after they took 100 bucks out for insurance and taxes, me and the kids just got by.

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 01:42 PM
I think medical examiners have it worst, though. I was just thinking the other night about how I'll be one of those people that would die, but since I'm a hermit nobody would realize it for weeks. That'd be a yummy smell there.

My dad also saw some gruesome stuff as a first responder. Those guys and gals don't get paid enough. Actually, come to think of it, he didn't get paid at all.

go bowe
03-09-2005, 01:44 PM
Make Duhnise pay for it ...

her being the bleeding heart and all.

;)

Seriously,though, there needs to be a caveat to state or federally funded care:

If you did it to yourself, no health care for you!

MM
~~:shrug:to an extent, that's already been done by social security...

for a number of years now, alcoholics who drink or addicts who take drugs cannot get disability benefits unless they are totally disabled by some other condition...

personally, i wouldn't have any problem with all such benefits (state and federal) being restricted on the basis of drinking or addiction...

of course, the problem with denying benefis is that all you are doing is shifting the costs of dealing with alcoholics and addicts to somebody else (local governments in many cases) or to some other program (food stamps, for example)...

unless we totally stop all assistance of any kind to a/a's, including welfare and foodstamps and the whole enchilada, somebody's going to be paying for it in the long run...

and, as a society, do we really want to let people die off when they don't meet some particular standard? who sets that standard? is such a thing even possible under our constitutional/legal system?

do we let retarded people die off? how about people with birth defects? etc. etc.

i guess i don't see any easy solutions to the problem...

badgirl
03-09-2005, 01:45 PM
I think medical examiners have it worst, though. I was just thinking the other night about how I'll be one of those people that would die, but since I'm a hermit nobody would realize it for weeks. That'd be a yummy smell there.

My dad also saw some gruesome stuff as a first responder. Those guys and gals don't get paid enough. Actually, come to think of it, he didn't get paid at all.
yea that would be pretty bad, we had to "stuff" our people who passed away and take them to the morgue, I looked in the autopsy room once and even though they weren't doing anything at the time I had a nightmare about it that night.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 01:49 PM
I'll be one of those people that would die, but since I'm a hermit nobody would realize it for weeks.

I'm not a hermit, but I think I'd probably be the same way. I'm not real good about returning phone call and stuff like that, so if a friend doesn't hear from me for a few weeks at a time, I don't think they think much of it. Nobody ever really drops by my place unannounced.

I don't know what would finally tip somebody off. Maybe my neighbor would notice my truck hadn't been leaving during the days for work for awhile.

yunghungwell
03-09-2005, 01:58 PM
A few years back I heard a story on the radio about an older gentelman who had an automatic bill pay set up for almost everything. He died in his easy chair while watching TV and was not found until years later when the bill collectors showed up because his bank account was empty.

I heard this on Rush or Paul Harvey. I can't remember which. Sounds like an urban legend, but the source seemed reliable. No, I haven't checked Snopes yet.

Mark M
03-09-2005, 01:58 PM
to an extent, that's already been done by social security...

for a number of years now, alcoholics who drink or addicts who take drugs cannot get disability benefits unless they are totally disabled by some other condition...

personally, i wouldn't have any problem with all such benefits (state and federal) being restricted on the basis of drinking or addiction...

of course, the problem with denying benefis is that all you are doing is shifting the costs of dealing with alcoholics and addicts to somebody else (local governments in many cases) or to some other program (food stamps, for example)...
Not in Markland ... there, anyone who has voluntarily ruined their health gets sqaut ... nada ... zilch ... unless they can pay for it. That includes people like me who smoke.

unless we totally stop all assistance of any kind to a/a's, including welfare and foodstamps and the whole enchilada, somebody's going to be paying for it in the long run...
Again, those who have been put in a poor situation through things they can't control get the assistance.


and, as a society, do we really want to let people die off when they don't meet some particular standard?
Yes.
who sets that standard?
Me. ;)
is such a thing even possible under our constitutional/legal system?
Probably not.

do we let retarded people die off? how about people with birth defects? etc. etc.
Again, those people did not choose to be that way -- they were born that way. Thus, they get benefits.

i guess i don't see any easy solutions to the problem...
You should visit Markland ... where the water tastes like wine and the climate suits my clothes.

MM
~~:D

Radar Chief
03-09-2005, 02:08 PM
I'm not a hermit, but I think I'd probably be the same way. I'm not real good about returning phone call and stuff like that, so if a friend doesn't hear from me for a few weeks at a time, I don't think they think much of it. Nobody ever really drops by my place unannounced.

I don't know what would finally tip somebody off. Maybe my neighbor would notice my truck hadn't been leaving during the days for work for awhile.

Ya know, it probably wouldnít be as bad as you might think. Iím sure your internals are fairly well pickled by now. ;)

Rain Man
03-09-2005, 02:08 PM
I'm not a hermit, but I think I'd probably be the same way. I'm not real good about returning phone call and stuff like that, so if a friend doesn't hear from me for a few weeks at a time, I don't think they think much of it. Nobody ever really drops by my place unannounced.

I don't know what would finally tip somebody off. Maybe my neighbor would notice my truck hadn't been leaving during the days for work for awhile.


Don't make me laugh. Within 48 hours there'd be half a dozen bar owners banging on your door.

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 02:15 PM
I'm not a hermit, but I think I'd probably be the same way. I'm not real good about returning phone call and stuff like that, so if a friend doesn't hear from me for a few weeks at a time, I don't think they think much of it. Nobody ever really drops by my place unannounced.

I don't know what would finally tip somebody off. Maybe my neighbor would notice my truck hadn't been leaving during the days for work for awhile.The people you work with wouldn't notice?

Because of the nature of my work, I sometimes go weeks or months between jobs and I don't go out of my way to stay in touch with my boss. So if I kicked at a time when I wasn't scheduled, he wouldn't notice either, since it's not out of the ordinary for me to be out of touch for long periods of time. I've never met any of my neighbors, and my car's here more often then not, so there'd be nothing unusual there until the smell started to spread through the building. I don't think anybody here would notice either, since I disappear regularly for long stretches. I'm about as under-the-radar as a person can be.

Morbid idea, I guess, but it was inspired by a movie or TV show I saw yesterday. I'm not planning on dying anytime soon.

NewChief
03-09-2005, 02:16 PM
Don't make me laugh. Within 48 hours there'd be half a dozen bar owners banging on your door.

Half a dozen bar owners and a gross of Jenny Craig clients.

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 02:18 PM
Half a dozen bar owners and a gross of Jenny Craig clients.Gross. What a perfect word to use.

ENDelt260
03-09-2005, 02:21 PM
The people you work with wouldn't notice?

I suppose I'd get fired.

I start my new job in a couple weeks... I guess I'll find out what level of interaction with my life the people I work with will have soon enough. Nobody at my present job knows where I live. I think I gave my manager my cell phone number once... if I didn't show up to work for a couple days and he called it to get no answer, what do you suppose he'd do? I honestly don't know.

Eventually, somebody would notice... I just wonder how long it would take.

keg in kc
03-09-2005, 02:26 PM
What if delt walked into a bar wearing a skirt and high heels?
Eventually, somebody would notice... I just wonder how long it would take.:hmmm:

go bowe
03-09-2005, 02:32 PM
Not in Markland ... there, anyone who has voluntarily ruined their health gets sqaut ... nada ... zilch ... unless they can pay for it. That includes people like me who smoke.


Again, those who have been put in a poor situation through things they can't control get the assistance.


Yes.

Me. ;)

Probably not.


Again, those people did not choose to be that way -- they were born that way. Thus, they get benefits.


You should visit Markland ... where the water tastes like wine and the climate suits my clothes.

MM
~~:Di've been through maryland many times, but not for quite awhile...

interesting stuff... :hmmm:

but, personally, i don't think that addiction is something most people can control...

nobody chooses to be an a/a...

of course, addiction results from poor choices, but once addicted, there is no longer any choice to it, nor is it something that can be controlled...

i guess that's probably why i have some reservations about restricting benefits because of addiction to drugs and/or alcohol..

but between social security and this maryland thing, it looks like we're headed that way...

we'll see how it works out...

btw, the water didn't taste like wine to me... :shake: :shake: :shake:

Mark M
03-09-2005, 02:39 PM
i've been through maryland many times, but not for quite awhile...

ROFL

Apparently, hooked on phonics didn't work for you.


but, personally, i don't think that addiction is something most people can control...

nobody chooses to be an a/a...

of course, addiction results from poor choices, but once addicted, there is no longer any choice to it, nor is it something that can be controlled...

i guess that's probably why i have some reservations about restricting benefits because of addiction to drugs and/or alcohol..
To be honest, I don't necessarily disagree. I was just trying to take something to an extreme.

Addiction is a disease--heroin, meth, alcohol, etc. all have huge addictive qualities. But huffing paint or whatever is NOT an addiction -- it's stupid.
btw, the water didn't taste like wine to me... :shake: :shake: :shake:
It does in Markland.

MM
~~:D

chiefs4me
03-09-2005, 03:00 PM
Its times like these that make me lean back and think to myself "Damn, I love this place."






PBJ

go bowe
03-10-2005, 10:41 AM
ROFL

Apparently, hooked on phonics didn't work for you.


To be honest, I don't necessarily disagree. I was just trying to take something to an extreme.

Addiction is a disease--heroin, meth, alcohol, etc. all have huge addictive qualities. But huffing paint or whatever is NOT an addiction -- it's stupid.

It does in Markland.

MM
~~:Dpffft...

maryland, markland, it's all the same, isn't it? :D :D :D

Radar Chief
03-10-2005, 10:48 AM
Yup. I bet the person you working with is FOS, or stupid. Or both. I think Wal-Mart is behind it too. They have good prices, but they are a very..uh..uptight with their "moralities".

Just FYI, but I spoke with our purchasing agent that normally buys batteries for our company and he tells me that itís because of legislation not just a Wal-Mart policy. Said Iíd probably have the same problem wherever I went.
Iíve got a friend that runs the local Radio Shack, when I can catch up to him Iíll ask Ďbout it also.