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Frankie
03-10-2005, 02:00 PM
That's if we do sign Hartwell.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/8273061


1. Derrick Johnson, Texas, Outside

Positives: Speed, play-making ability, ball skills, instincts, ability to diagnose plays, tackling, height (6-foot-3), long arms … He is not only the best linebacker in the draft, but the best defensive player in the entire college crop, and his game-changing impact should make him a top-five pick.

Negatives: Handling running plays directed straight at him, upper-body strength.

2. Shawne Merriman, Maryland, Outside (underclassman)

Positives: Size (6-4, 272 pounds), pass-rushing, instincts, intensity, leaping ability, open-field tackling, outside run stopping … Although he surprised more than a few player personnel evaluators by electing not to work out at the National Scouting Combine, Merriman still offers enough elite talent as a pass rusher to be selected in the middle of the first round.

Negatives: Hand placement, ability to gain leverage on offensive linemen, vulnerability to play action.

3. Darryl Blackstock, Virginia, Outside (underclassman)

Positives: Initial quickness, change-of-direction skills, intensity, discipline, recognition skills … His talent is good enough for him to become a low first-round choice or early second-rounder.

Negatives: Lower-body strength, ability to gain separation from blockers, overall technique against the run.

4. Channing Crowder, Florida, Inside (underclassman)

Positives: Man-to-man coverage of running backs, intensity, instincts, big-hitting ability … He is very raw and probably should have remained in college for one more season to fully develop his skills, yet he does have the talent to likely become a second-round choice.

5. Kevin Burnett, Tennessee, Outside

Positives: Size (6-2, 239 pounds), speed, athleticism, man-to-man coverage of running backs, tackling … His stock didn’t suffer because of the calf injury that prevented him from working out at the combine; he should be a solid second-rounder.

Negatives: Recognition skills, closing speed as a pass rusher.



I'd vote NO. Although I wouldn't mind spending a lower round dc on Lofa wutzizname from SC. What round do you think he will go in the draft?

Mr. Laz
03-10-2005, 02:03 PM
if certain guys fall to us we should grab them regardless ... johnson is one of those.

Braylon Edwards WR 6-3, 210 Michigan
Antrel Rolle CB 6-1, 205 Miami
Derrick Johnson LB 6-3, 242 Texas


after that, no ... we draft cornerbacks on day 1

Gaz
03-10-2005, 02:06 PM
While Hartwell may be wishful thinking, Johnson at #15 is pure fantasy. Not gonna happen, so stop teasing me, please.

If we get Hartwell, draft Rodgers at #15 and the best CB remaining in the 2nd.

xoxo~
Gaz
Would still want a veteran FA CB [after June 1st cuts?].

Cormac
03-10-2005, 02:10 PM
If we sign Hartwell, we wouldn't need another LB. We'd have a full complement of young LBs. In that case, we should look at CB/DE in the first, and the reverse in the 2nd round. JMO.

Frankie
03-10-2005, 02:11 PM
If we get Hartwell, draft Rodgers at #15 and the best CB remaining in the 2nd.

xoxo~
Gaz
Would still want a veteran FA CB [after June 1st cuts?].


1- Carlos Rogers
2- Eric Green

That would be something. Wouldn't it? :thumb:

Mile High Mania
03-10-2005, 02:14 PM
You can never have too many solid LBs... that's Bowlen's mantra anyway.

DJ will be gone well before you guys draft.

I think the draft should work in a manner in which you have your options slotted where you pick and if they're available, go for it. However, if some gifted player falls to you and while he may not be of need, but he's better than what you were looking at.. you have to take him.

ChiefsOne
03-10-2005, 02:16 PM
If Johnson fell to us, you have to draft him. Players with that much potential don't come around that often.

Hoover
03-10-2005, 02:17 PM
If we get another starting LB in FA, I say draft a DE in the first, and go CB in the 2nd.

HolmeZz
03-10-2005, 02:17 PM
Only if we lost Fujita.

Mr. Laz
03-10-2005, 02:18 PM
1- Carlos Rogers
2- Eric Green

That would be something. Wouldn't it? :thumb:

i see you've been reading from the Book of Lazarus


well done, my son





go forth, be fruitful and multiply

HolmeZz
03-10-2005, 02:23 PM
Dunno where this love affair with Eric Green started. I did get to watch a pretty good amount of Va Tech's games, and although Green looked like a pretty good corner, I don't see him stepping in day 1 and making an impact.

whoman69
03-10-2005, 02:24 PM
Only if we lost Fujita.
No I have to agree with Hoov, if he is there, you have to take him and then consider trading Fuji.

Frankie
03-10-2005, 02:25 PM
Dunno where this love affair with Eric Green started. I did get to watch a pretty good amount of Va Tech's games, and although Green looked like a pretty good corner, he's not going to step in day 1 and make an impact.
If Rogers does, We can afford to bring Green up slowly. Bodes well for the future.

whoman69
03-10-2005, 02:28 PM
i see you've been reading from the Book of Lazarus


well done, my son





go forth, be fruitful and multiply
This is Frankie we're talking about. Do you know what you're saying?

HolmeZz
03-10-2005, 02:31 PM
I could understand that, but it sounds like people want to throw him right into the mix off the bat. If you want to slowly bring a corner up, I think Webster would be the better 2nd round pick. He's much more athletic than Green and has a lot more potential.

Frankie
03-10-2005, 02:38 PM
i see you've been reading from the Book of Lazarus


well done, my son





go forth, be fruitful and multiply

But...... I wouldn't be terribly heartbroken if we grabbed Left-OT Alex Barron in the 1st to groom as Roaf's replacement. Though I could very well be the only one on this bb. I do however MUCH MUCH prefer the Rogers-Green scenario.

Frankie
03-10-2005, 02:42 PM
This is Frankie we're talking about. Do you know what you're saying?

Too late.... I went forth, was fruitful and multiplied.... (pufff)

Mr. Laz
03-10-2005, 02:45 PM
But...... I wouldn't be terribly heartbroken if we grabbed Lawrence Taylor Alex Barron in the 1st to groom as Roaf's replacement
blasphemy!!!


penance i say, you shall pay penance!! and ask for forgiveness for your football ignorance

Chan93lx50
03-10-2005, 02:49 PM
You can never have too many solid LBs... that's Bowlen's mantra anyway.

DJ will be gone well before you guys draft.

I think the draft should work in a manner in which you have your options slotted where you pick and if they're available, go for it. However, if some gifted player falls to you and while he may not be of need, but he's better than what you were looking at.. you have to take him.

Hence the Larry Johnson pic two years ago in the 1st round!

Frankie
03-10-2005, 03:01 PM
blasphemy!!!


penance i say, you shall pay penance!! and ask for forgiveness for your football ignorance
Funny enough sequence of replies for a rep. ROFL
But read the Rogers-Green part, before you declare religious war on me. ;)