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whoman69
03-17-2005, 09:53 PM
I saw an interesting program today on people who refurbish old WWII planes. Got me to thinking, if you had the money which one would you try to find? A description of fighters can be found at acepilots (http://www.acepilots.com/planes/main.html#top)

Saulbadguy
03-17-2005, 09:54 PM
http://www.netaxs.com/people/ebailey/komet.jpg

siberian khatru
03-17-2005, 09:55 PM
European Theater: P-51
Pacific Theater: P-38

Mastashake
03-17-2005, 09:56 PM
uh...the one that comes back in one piece

Mastashake

ChiefsFire
03-17-2005, 09:58 PM
the FFM-69er

Spicy McHaggis
03-17-2005, 09:58 PM
Spitfire, no question. If we're talking WWI I'd go with the Fokker DR. I or IV

Bowser
03-17-2005, 09:58 PM
The Corsairs like they had in "Black Sheep Squadron". I always wanted to be Pappy..........

Skip Towne
03-17-2005, 09:59 PM
F4U Corsair. 13 foot propeller. Faster than a Zero.

Bowser
03-17-2005, 09:59 PM
http://www.netaxs.com/people/ebailey/komet.jpg

Nein! Das ist not gut!

whoman69
03-17-2005, 10:02 PM
Man, you guys are quick. 9 answers before I even got the poll up. I loved to watch Baa Baa Blacksheep, so I went with the Corsair.

Mastashake
03-17-2005, 10:02 PM
B-29 Superfortress...If you get shot down, the nuke is goin off...TAKE THAT YOU JAPANESE PIECES OF Raiders!

Skip Towne
03-17-2005, 10:04 PM
B-29 Superfortress...If you get shot down, the nuke is goin off...TAKE THAT YOU JAPANESE PIECES OF Raiders!
Yeah, that B-29 was one hell of a fighter.

Rain Man
03-17-2005, 10:05 PM
Fw-190. It would barely beat the Spitfire on my list.

Sydd
03-17-2005, 10:07 PM
The P-47 is one of the most underrated planes in history.

If you ever get the chance to visit the Palm Springs airport, the have the largest collection of still flying WWII aricraft in the country. They even have a B17 and a B25 that still fly. It is ran by all volunteers who are WWII vets. I spent several hours there just talking to these guys. One of the B17 pilots was on the Berlin bombing raid. Over 1000 planes on that raid. I highly recommend it for the history these guys can pass on.

Mastashake
03-17-2005, 10:08 PM
Yeah, that B-29 was one hell of a fighter.

I'm more about the huge explosion than I am about staying alive. I really lack that instinctual aspect to stay alive. As long as I'm known for causing the greatest explosion to ever grace mankind...I'm as good as gravy!

Besides, didn't they get some sort of escort?

Mastashake

Skip Towne
03-17-2005, 10:09 PM
Man, you guys are quick. 9 answers before I even got the poll up. I loved to watch Baa Baa Blacksheep, so I went with the Corsair.
The reason the wings of a Corsair have that funny "V" at the fuselage is so that the huge propeller will clear the ground. Many Corsairs were pushed off into the sea as a result of the lend-lease agreement with Britain. Then we needed them again in Korea.

Braincase
03-17-2005, 10:11 PM
Besides the Mustang, gotta love the Lightning, the plane that won the Pacific...

whoman69
03-17-2005, 10:14 PM
I'm more about the huge explosion than I am about staying alive. I really lack that instinctual aspect to stay alive. As long as I'm known for causing the greatest explosion to ever grace mankind...I'm as good as gravy!

Besides, didn't they get some sort of escort?

Mastashake
The B-29 supposedly flew higher than any fighter could go and over enemy AA fire.

philfree
03-17-2005, 10:20 PM
When I was youg....er.........Well anyways of the few books i've read in my life one of them was 'God As My Co-Pilot' about R.L. Scott ....actually I saw the old movie too. It was a long time ago...me reading the book I mean...... but Scott ended up with the flying Tigers and from my tainted memory he was flying a P40. Thus my choice of the P40....

PhilFree :arrow:

alanm
03-17-2005, 10:30 PM
Probably the P-38 Lightning or the P-47 Thunderbolt.

BIG K
03-17-2005, 11:09 PM
I would fly any one of those planes that I could get my hands on. But I would definately want to fly the P-38 because of it's speed and firepower..... The P-51 Mustang runs a close second for me...

whoman69
03-18-2005, 09:40 AM
I'll bump this for the daytime guys.

Donger
03-18-2005, 09:42 AM
Heh. I've flown in both the Mustang and the Spit.

Cochise
03-18-2005, 09:43 AM
I was under the impression that the P-51 was the superior plane of the era, though it was not introduced until later in the war.

Saulbadguy
03-18-2005, 09:47 AM
No love for the Komet, eh? Haters.

Other than that, I do like the Mustang.

Donger
03-18-2005, 09:49 AM
I was under the impression that the P-51 was the superior plane of the era, though it was not introduced until later in the war.

It was, arguably. It has a fascinating history, too.

The US first rejected the Mustang because of the underpowered Allison engine that NA fitted them with. The Brits began taking them, however, and put Rolls Royce Merlin engines in them. Problem solved!

They were the first fighters that could escort our bombers all the way to their targets and back to base. That's pretty much why they are so famous. But, if they one weakness, it was that they used water-cooled engines. One bullet in the radiator = lost Mustang.

Donger
03-18-2005, 09:51 AM
No love for the Komet, eh? Haters.

Other than that, I do like the Mustang.

Pretty cool little sucker, although they had a nasty tendency to blow up both in flight and during fueling. Give me a ME-262 any day...

I've been lucky enough to see both aircraft in person. The Swallow is simply gorgeous; almost too gorgeous to be of German design.

Count Alex's Losses
03-18-2005, 09:53 AM
I can't believe I'm the only one who voted for the Messerschmidt.

HC_Chief
03-18-2005, 09:55 AM
No love for the Russian IL? That was a bad mofo in the day... could take any German fighter with ease. Highly maneuverable, massive firepower, excellent speed, high reliability, and tough as nails.

Donger
03-18-2005, 09:56 AM
No love for the Russian IL? That was a bad mofo in the day... could take any German fighter with ease. Highly maneuverable, massive firepower, excellent speed, high reliability, and tough as nails.

The what?

HC_Chief
03-18-2005, 10:16 AM
<a href="http://www.vectorsite.net/avil2.html">The Il-2 Shturmovik</a>

It was a bad mofo.

Donger
03-18-2005, 10:24 AM
<a href="http://www.vectorsite.net/avil2.html">The Il-2 Shturmovik</a>

It was a bad mofo.

Ah. The Shturmovik wasn't a fighter though; they were tank busters. It sure could take on any German fighter, on the ground that is.

HC_Chief
03-18-2005, 10:30 AM
Ah. The Shturmovik wasn't a fighter though; they were tank busters. It sure could take on any German fighter, on the ground that is.

They were primarily used as ground attack aircraft, that's true... however they were also successful in shooting down Whermacht fighters over Kursk and on the Soviet approach to Germany/Berlin. Turns out they were more maneuverable than the German fighters, allowing them to get in better firing position.

Of course it also helped that by the time they were mounting the offensive that the majority of the best Whermacht pilots had already been lost.

I liken it to the modern-day A-10 Thunderbolt (aka Warthog). Tough, effective, and surprisingly maneuverable. Built to shred tanks/artillary/infantry, but capable of knocking anything out of the sky. :D

Donger
03-18-2005, 10:37 AM
They were primarily used as ground attack aircraft, that's true... however they were also successful in shooting down Whermacht fighters over Kursk and on the Soviet approach to Germany/Berlin. Turns out they were more maneuverable than the German fighters, allowing them to get in better firing position.

Of course it also helped that by the time they were mounting the offensive that the majority of the best Whermacht pilots had already been lost.

I liken it to the modern-day A-10 Thunderbolt (aka Warthog). Tough, effective, and surprisingly maneuverable. Built to shred tanks/artillary/infantry, but capable of knocking anything out of the sky. :D

Hmmm. Didn't know that. I was aware that they took out plenty of Germans with the rear gunner, but not offensively.

Kris Kringle
03-18-2005, 10:55 AM
Ki42 Oscar? I don't know what you are talking about and don't find it on google.

whoman69
03-18-2005, 11:02 AM
Ki42 Oscar? I don't know what you are talking about and don't find it on google.
Check the link I provided. My bad it should be Ki43. Mitsubishi made.

Kris Kringle
03-18-2005, 11:19 AM
http://www.modelsmodelsmodels.biz/images/aoj031.jpg



http://www.vectorsite.net/avil21.jpg

Raiderhader
03-18-2005, 11:19 AM
I have always had a fascination with the Flying Tigers and the P-40s they flew.

The P-38s and 51s are also favorites as well as the Spitfire.

Saggysack
03-18-2005, 11:20 AM
The P-47 is one of the most underrated planes in history.

If you ever get the chance to visit the Palm Springs airport, the have the largest collection of still flying WWII aricraft in the country. They even have a B17 and a B25 that still fly. It is ran by all volunteers who are WWII vets. I spent several hours there just talking to these guys. One of the B17 pilots was on the Berlin bombing raid. Over 1000 planes on that raid. I highly recommend it for the history these guys can pass on.

Hell Yeah! Glad to see I'm not alone on the P-47!

The P-47 is a tank in the air.

Pants
03-18-2005, 11:21 AM
Yeap, 52 tang or IL-2.

whoman69
03-18-2005, 12:12 PM
<a href="http://www.vectorsite.net/avil2.html">The Il-2 Shturmovik</a>

It was a bad mofo.
Top speed 264 mph. Some fighters were able to get over 400 mph. It would suffer great trouble in a dogfight, unless as you posted, that the pilot were against an inexperienced pilot.

Saggysack
03-18-2005, 12:51 PM
:drool:

Donger
03-18-2005, 12:57 PM
:drool:

Excellent picture. Reminds me of a movie from the early 80s, about the USS Nimitz going back in time to December 1941. There were some fantastic shots of Tomcats playing with Zeros.

Ah, just remembered. It was called The Final Countdown with Martin Sheen and Kirk Douglas.

Saggysack
03-18-2005, 01:08 PM
Excellent picture. Reminds me of a movie from the early 80s, about the USS Nimitz going back in time to December 1941. There were some fantastic shots of Tomcats playing with Zeros.

Ah, just remembered. It was called The Final Countdown with Martin Sheen and Kirk Douglas.

Great movie. Haven't seen it in years. Now I'm gonna have to put it on my Netflix queue.

Donger
03-18-2005, 01:10 PM
Great movie. Haven't seen it in years. Now I'm gonna have to put it on my Netflix queue.

When an F-14 does a steep dive and pulls out just before crashing into the ocean while "playing" with one of the Zeroes, the "scream" the F-14 made was created by mixing the sound of the jet engines with the actual scream of the pilot's wife when she saw that clip for the first time.

ROFL

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/trivia

Saggysack
03-18-2005, 01:14 PM
When an F-14 does a steep dive and pulls out just before crashing into the ocean while "playing" with one of the Zeroes, the "scream" the F-14 made was created by mixing the sound of the jet engines with the actual scream of the pilot's wife when she saw that clip for the first time.

ROFL

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/trivia

How about this one.

The "identification" for the pilot who is doing the Recon mission over Pearl Harbor clearly says "Soup, Campbell"... or "Campbell Soup".

:LOL:

whoman69
03-18-2005, 05:00 PM
The show I watched mentioned that its a growing trend at air shows to pair old WWII fighters with more modern jets. They showed astronaut and former Eastern Airlines CEO Frank Borman in a P-51 alongside an F-16 going about 300 mph.