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Frankie
03-24-2005, 08:16 AM
As sad as it is! :shake:

One of arguably the most power hungry, unethical, corrupt politicians in the U.S. history invokes God: ROFL

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050323/pl_nm/rights_schiavo_politics_dc


Republican Leader Invokes God in Schiavo Battle

Wed Mar 23, 6:27 PM ET


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In helping lead the charge to keep brain-damaged Terri Schiavo alive, House of Representatives Majority Leader Tom DeLay has invoked God, diverted attention from his own ethical woes and again become a lightning rod for critics of his party's conservative agenda.

DeLay told a conservative Christian group that the Schiavo case was a gift from God for their cause, drawing fresh complaints from Democrats that he was trying to score political points.

"One thing that God has brought to us is Terri Schiavo to elevate the visibility of what's going on in America," the Texan congressman told a meeting of the Family Research Council.

Dismissing medical findings that Schiavo is in a "persistent vegetative state," he declared outrage that "Americans would be so barbaric as to pull a feeding tube out of a person that is lucid and starve them to death for two weeks."

DeLay has drawn support from the religious right for opposing abortion and same-sex marriage. he has taken the leading role in U.S. congressional intervention in the case of the 41-year-old woman, whose feeding tube was removed last Friday after years of legal wrangling between family members.

DeLay, admonished last year by the House ethics committee for three separate matters, now faces questions about foreign trips funded by outside groups.

While he denies any wrongdoing, some fellow Republicans have voiced concerns about an ongoing investigation in his home state of Texas of allegedly illegal fund-raising that last year resulted in indictment of three of Delay's top associates.

DeLay, in addressing the Family Research Council, said, "The other side has figured out how to win and defeat the conservative movement, and that is to go after people personally, charge them with frivolous charges."

DeLay made the comments shortly before he and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, helped set the stage for U.S. congressional passage of an emergency bill aimed at prolonging Schiavo's life.

The measure -- which drew support from many conservatives yet riled others -- moved Schiavo's case from state to federal courts.

Frist, seen as a potential 2008 U.S. presidential contender, and DeLay appeared separately before the Family Research Council last week.

On Wednesday, the liberal Americans United For Separation of Church and State said it obtained tapes of their remarks and issued copies along with a statement.

"Religious Right leaders are determined to run all of our lives, from the moment of conception through the end of life, and top congressional leaders are conspiring behind closed doors in Washington to help them do it. It's appalling," said the Rev. Barry Lynn, head of the liberal group.

Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council, told members of his group to support DeLay. "I challenge you to pray for him," Perkins said after DeLay's remarks. "I know the work that this man is doing ... I encourage you to stand with him."

Marshall Wittman, a senior fellow at the Democratic Leadership Council who earlier served as an aide to Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona, said, "Tom DeLay is attempting to preserve his own political viability by championing the cause of Terri Schiavo and endearing himself to the religious right."

Rep. Robert Wexler (news, bio, voting record), a Florida Democrat, said, "I find it shameful that Mr. Delay and Republicans have used Ms. Schiavo as their political pawn to kowtow to their conservative base."

Dan Allen, a spokesman for DeLay, rejected such talk, saying, "Anyone who has followed the career of Tom DeLay knows his commitment to life issues."

Amnorix
03-24-2005, 08:20 AM
There are very few Republicans I actively hate. Tom DeLay may well be the only one.

And yet, to say that he is one of the most corrupt and unethical politicans in history is definitely over the top. He is only moderately corrupt and unethical...

KCTitus
03-24-2005, 08:24 AM
He invoked God while speaking to a Christian group...talk about your off the wall events.

Brock
03-24-2005, 08:42 AM
The Republican Prince Charming LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH!

Frankie
03-24-2005, 08:50 AM
Read up about his history gents.

mlyonsd
03-24-2005, 09:08 AM
As much as I dislike Delay he does have a point. Starving an innocent human being to death is barbaric and insane.

Mr. Kotter
03-24-2005, 09:14 AM
...And yet, to say that he is one of the most corrupt and unethical politicans in history is definitely over the top. He is only moderately corrupt and unethical...

Leave it to Amnorix to bring levity back to the hysteria of the left... :clap:

KCTitus
03-24-2005, 09:19 AM
Read up about his history gents.

Ive got it on video tape somewhere, I'll go re-watch it and let you know, but Im really busy right now.

Frankie
03-24-2005, 09:24 AM
Ive got it on video tape somewhere, I'll go re-watch it and let you know, but Im really busy right now.

Google....

Saulbadguy
03-24-2005, 09:25 AM
As much as I dislike Delay he does have a point. Starving an innocent human being to death is barbaric and insane.
And its been done. More than once, and it wasn't considered barbaric or insane in those cases.

Cochise
03-24-2005, 09:27 AM
He invoked God while speaking to a Christian group...talk about your off the wall events.

No more off the wall than all the Democrats drastically increasing their GPM ("god"s per minute) since November.

Frankie
03-24-2005, 09:29 AM
He invoked God while speaking to a Christian group...talk about your off the wall events.

In other words, according to your justification, if he figures that pandering to Neo-Nazis is to his political benefit (not to mention raising a lot of media dust to cover his own ass) then it's OK to invoke Hitler too! :shake:

Brock
03-24-2005, 09:31 AM
In other words, according to your justification, if he figures that pandering to Neo-Nazis is to his political benefit (not to mention raising a lot of media dust to cover his own ass) then it's OK to invoke Hitler too! :shake:

OMG. You are truly off the deep end.

RINGLEADER
03-24-2005, 09:52 AM
I don't wake up in the morning actively offended by what Delay does, but his comment about Dems starving Schiavo was way over the top.

Frankie
03-24-2005, 10:00 AM
OMG. You are truly off the deep end.
:rolleyes:
Translation: "As usual I didn't understand the reasoning. So, I'm about to make this personal like before."

Brock
03-24-2005, 10:01 AM
:rolleyes:
Translation: As usual I didn't understand the reasoning.

Comparing Christians to Nazis isn't exactly a subtle point.

KCTitus
03-24-2005, 10:04 AM
In other words, according to your justification, if he figures that pandering to Neo-Nazis is to his political benefit (not to mention raising a lot of media dust to cover his own ass) then it's OK to invoke Hitler too! :shake:

You want to hit teh Google and provide me with the speech text affirming this for me? Or is it one of your videotapes?

Frankie
03-24-2005, 10:05 AM
Comparing Christians to Nazis isn't exactly a subtle point.

Like I said. You didn't understand.... AGAIN! The point is pandering and being devious and unethical about it. NOT COMPARING ONE GROUP TO ANOTHER.

KCTitus
03-24-2005, 10:06 AM
I don't wake up in the morning actively offended by what Delay does, but his comment about Dems starving Schiavo was way over the top.

I agree...it doesnt really do much to resolve the issue. Clearly, what needs to happen is Shiavo needs to be convicted and sentenced to death row, then the dems will be stumbling all over themselves to get to a judge to protect her from death.

Brock
03-24-2005, 10:07 AM
Like I said. You didn't understand.... AGAIN! The point is pandering and being devious and unethical about it. NOT COMPARING ONE GROUP TO ANOTHER.

If I didn't understand it, it is because you didn't say what you meant.

Amnorix
03-24-2005, 10:08 AM
Read up about his history gents.

Teapot Dome/Harding Administration
Tammany Hall
Watergate
Mayor Daley
Grant Administration
Iran-Contra
Billy Bulger/Whitey Bulger Massachusetts connection

Seriously -- what DeLay is most guilty of is being an A-hole who isn't afraid to push power to the ultimate limit, and sometimes beyond, thereby perhaps constituting abuse of power. His conduct is probably sanctionable at best.

Believe me, I'd love for him to get caught in his office with his sausage in his secretary's mouth while he was simultaneously emailing military secrets to Iran in exchange for GOP campaign contributions, but let's not get carried away here.

What disturbs me more than his various improprieties is that the House has reorganized it's entire ethics committee basically as a punishment for sanctioning him. That's utterly crazy. The Republicans have very quickly become at least as bad as the Democrats ever were when they controlled the House for 40 years, in terms of treating it like their own private playground.

Frankie
03-24-2005, 10:09 AM
You want to hit teh Google and provide me with the speech text affirming this for me? Or is it one of your videotapes?
Translation: "I'm gonna refuse to learn about my political idols. I blindly follow and support them no matter how shady they are."

Amnorix
03-24-2005, 10:10 AM
I agree...it doesnt really do much to resolve the issue. Clearly, what needs to happen is Shiavo needs to be convicted and sentenced to death row, then the dems will be stumbling all over themselves to get to a judge to protect her from death.

Said before and I'll say it again -- Dems are widely split over the death penalty, and we aren't exactly strongly pushing its abolishment like the Republicans push for the abolishment of abortion, are we?

It's limited groups of left-leaning organizations, notably the ACLU, that push hard on this matter. Not Democrats as a whole.

But don't let facts get in the way of your bluster.

mlyonsd
03-24-2005, 10:10 AM
I agree...it doesnt really do much to resolve the issue. Clearly, what needs to happen is Shiavo needs to be convicted and sentenced to death row, then the dems will be stumbling all over themselves to get to a judge to protect her from death.

They might even try and pass legislation which would allow the case to go to the Federal court. Oh that's right, a convicted murderer on death row already has that right. It's jut the innocent where there's a catch.

Frankie
03-24-2005, 10:11 AM
If I didn't understand it, it is because you didn't say what you meant.

It's clear now then, I hope.

Frankie
03-24-2005, 10:15 AM
Said before and I'll say it again -- Dems are widely split over the death penalty, and we aren't exactly strongly pushing its abolishment like the Republicans push for the abolishment of abortion, are we?

It's limited groups of left-leaning organizations, notably the ACLU, that push hard on this matter. Not Democrats as a whole.

But don't let facts get in the way of your bluster.

:thumb:

I myself see capital punishment as a necessary evil as long as the conviction is TRUELY beyond the shadow of any doubt and for TRUELY premeditated crimes.

Brock
03-24-2005, 10:16 AM
It's clear now then, I hope.

It's clear that you have to stoop to Nazi imagery in your attempt to demonize people you don't like.

Frankie
03-24-2005, 10:23 AM
It's clear that you have to stoop to Nazi imagery in your attempt to demonize people you don't like.
:rolleyes:

Duck Dog
03-24-2005, 10:26 AM
Like I said. You didn't understand.... AGAIN! The point is pandering and being devious and unethical about it. NOT COMPARING ONE GROUP TO ANOTHER.

Were you screaming the same stuff when John sKerry was doing this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/duckdog/kerryblackpower.jpg

mlyonsd
03-24-2005, 10:40 AM
In other words, according to your justification, if he figures that pandering to Neo-Nazis is to his political benefit (not to mention raising a lot of media dust to cover his own ass) then it's OK to invoke Hitler too! :shake:

Frankie, it's ok if you call Christian groups Nazi's...they'll forgive you.

KCTitus
03-24-2005, 10:43 AM
Translation: "I'm gonna refuse to learn about my political idols. I blindly follow and support them no matter how shady they are."

It's just hilariously ironic to read this from you...Ringleader has taught you well.

*edit* I want to learn about Delay, please provide a link to the text of a speech to Neo Nazis where he invokes Hitler...

KCTitus
03-24-2005, 10:45 AM
It's limited groups of left-leaning organizations, notably the ACLU, that push hard on this matter. Not Democrats as a whole.

But don't let facts get in the way of your bluster.

I enjoy how the parsing of terms is equal to 'facts'...I'll take comfort in the fact that you actually understood my point and had to resort to parsing by infering an absolute in my argument.