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Hoover
03-30-2005, 04:26 PM
So this house I'm in the process of buying needs new gutters, downs, and soffets. They are all original to the house (Built in 1914). The Gutters are attached under the tile roof. So they need to be cut off. I got 2 estimates thus far, 1 for about 6K, the other in 10K. Anyway, can you put in a vinal lining in the existing gutters? Just wondering

Phobia
03-30-2005, 04:57 PM
Anyway, can you put in a vinal lining in the existing gutters? Just wondering

I'm sure you could, but is that defeating the purpose? Why do they need to be replaced?

jspchief
03-30-2005, 05:01 PM
Sounds high, they must be a high end gutter.

Typically you can get 5" seamless gutters done for about $2.50 a foot, plus downspouts. 6" seamless for about $4 a foot.

Phobia
03-30-2005, 05:04 PM
Sounds high, they must be a high end gutter.

Unless the price includes soffets.

jspchief
03-30-2005, 05:14 PM
Unless the price includes soffets. True. He said soffit in the first sentence, but the rest of what he said gave me the impression he was just talking about the gutters. 6k is still pretty high unless it's a complicated (or large) job. It takes a lot to get a gutter job that's over 1k around here. That easily leaves 4k for soffits. At $200 per sq labor and material (vinyl), it's enough for 20 sq of soffit, which is a hell of a lot. A hip ranch with 2 foot overhangs and 300 feet of drip edge probably only has about 6-8 sq.

Unless there's alot of demolition involved, those seem like high prices.


A picture of your overhangs/drip edge would be helpful.

Taco John
03-30-2005, 05:15 PM
THere are plenty of planeteers who spend their time in the gutters. You shouldn't have trouble finding one of them... :)

Taco John
03-30-2005, 05:16 PM
I'm not sure what a Soffet is... Sounds like something gay. I'll bet DenverChief knows something about it. Isn't this place amazing? ;) :)

Hoover
03-30-2005, 05:21 PM
Yes Soffets are included

Hoover
03-30-2005, 05:23 PM
Here is the house, I don't have a pic of the soffett

jspchief
03-30-2005, 05:52 PM
I'd be interested to hear what the materials they spec'd are. It's certainly possible that that house could rack up a 6-10k estimate if they were using materials to closely match the existing.

Are they just covering the existing soffits with vinyl, or tearing out and replacing tongue and groove soffit? That alone could make a big difference. What are they doing for new gutters? Some of the finer details would give me a better idea if the price was in line.

Hoover
03-30-2005, 07:36 PM
I'd be interested to hear what the materials they spec'd are. It's certainly possible that that house could rack up a 6-10k estimate if they were using materials to closely match the existing.

Are they just covering the existing soffits with vinyl, or tearing out and replacing tongue and groove soffit? That alone could make a big difference. What are they doing for new gutters? Some of the finer details would give me a better idea if the price was in line.
Thanks

The quote is for Seemless Aluminum gutters, and Aluminum soffit. They are tearing out the old soffit, and have to install a new J Channel off the house. Also when they take off the old gutters they they have to put in 2x6 to hang the new gutters from since the old gutter is attached under the tile roof.

I also wanted to know if a person could buy a liner that would be placed in the existing gutters, so I would not have to replace the gutters just update them. However since I'm doing a lot of soffit work, I gues I should just do the whole thing.

Hoover
03-31-2005, 08:17 AM
bump

jspchief
03-31-2005, 08:51 AM
Thanks

The quote is for Seemless Aluminum gutters, and Aluminum soffit. They are tearing out the old soffit, and have to install a new J Channel off the house. Also when they take off the old gutters they they have to put in 2x6 to hang the new gutters from since the old gutter is attached under the tile roof.

I also wanted to know if a person could buy a liner that would be placed in the existing gutters, so I would not have to replace the gutters just update them. However since I'm doing a lot of soffit work, I gues I should just do the whole thing.

With that material, the price seems pretty high. 6k might be in line, but 10k should come with a reach-around. I'd recommend getting a few more estimates. With the age of the home, they may need to scab in solid rafter material to attach the 2x6 sub fascia, and that would explain some of the cost. It's just too hard to say without seeing it in person.

As far as lining the gutters, I doubt you'll find anything that works. I use an aluminum coated peel and stick product for minor gutter repairs called Peel & Seal (http://www.mfmbp.com/pdf/P&S%20Tech%20Info.pdf). It requires cleaning the adhesion surface and priming it well. Even then I don't consider it an effective long term solution. Considering you'd have to scrub and prime the inside of all the gutters, it doesn't seem like a good fix for you. It could be used to address the leaky spots if they weren't too abundant.

Hoover
03-31-2005, 09:00 AM
With that material, the price seems pretty high. 6k might be in line, but 10k should come with a reach-around. I'd recommend getting a few more estimates. With the age of the home, they may need to scab in solid rafter material to attach the 2x6 sub fascia, and that would explain some of the cost. It's just too hard to say without seeing it in person.

As far as lining the gutters, I doubt you'll find anything that works. I use an aluminum coated peel and stick product for minor gutter repairs called Peel & Seal (http://www.mfmbp.com/pdf/P&S%20Tech%20Info.pdf). It requires cleaning the adhesion surface and priming it well. Even then I don't consider it an effective long term solution. Considering you'd have to scrub and prime the inside of all the gutters, it doesn't seem like a good fix for you. It could be used to address the leaky spots if they weren't too abundant.
thanks, I hate this crap

Skip Towne
03-31-2005, 09:07 AM
Why don't you just get your little old lady slaves to do it?

Hoover
03-31-2005, 09:52 AM
Why don't you just get your little old lady slaves to do it?
Then they would be out of the cell I call the mail room, and might never come back.

redsurfer11
04-03-2005, 05:23 PM
Thanks

The quote is for Seemless Aluminum gutters, and Aluminum soffit. They are tearing out the old soffit, and have to install a new J Channel off the house. Also when they take off the old gutters they they have to put in 2x6 to hang the new gutters from since the old gutter is attached under the tile roof.

I also wanted to know if a person could buy a liner that would be placed in the existing gutters, so I would not have to replace the gutters just update them. However since I'm doing a lot of soffit work, I gues I should just do the whole thing.


You're being raked with those quotes. Gutter should go $1.50 to $3.00 fer lineal foot, plus leaders. Soffit should cost you $3.00 per sq.ft plus demo. Get as many estimates as it takes and don't pay any up front money.

Skip Towne
04-03-2005, 05:59 PM
Then they would be out of the cell I call the mail room, and might never come back.
Oh, OK, good reason.

KCWolfman
04-03-2005, 07:30 PM
Here is the house, I don't have a pic of the soffett
The tile is nice. Anyone else own tile? Does it hold up under hail?