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redshirt32
04-03-2005, 02:11 PM
So are alot of other teams
http://www.qisports.com/derrickjohnson2005.html
Would be nice addition would have to move up though.

Woodrow Call
04-03-2005, 02:16 PM
IMO he is the best player in the draft. I would love to have him in the Red and Gold for the next 10 yrs but I don't think the Chiefs have enough ammo to move up and get him. I think Cleveland will nab him. Unless he gets hurt or gets into trouble with the law it is a pipedream.

It is a nice pipedream though.

LiL stumppy
04-03-2005, 02:20 PM
If we did get him,we would have one heck ova D

philfree
04-03-2005, 02:33 PM
IMO he is the best player in the draft. I would love to have him in the Red and Gold for the next 10 yrs but I don't think the Chiefs have enough ammo to move up and get him. I think Cleveland will nab him. Unless he gets hurt or gets into trouble with the law it is a pipedream.

It is a nice pipedream though.

Our 1st,2nd,4th,5th,6th and a 3rd next year for Miami's 1st and Patrick Surtain. :) Now there's a pipe dream ROFL


PhilFree :arrow:

KCJake
04-03-2005, 02:33 PM
Holy sh!t this guy is a beast. Tremendous closing speed. Top 5-7 pick?? Who would you rather have Surtain or DJ?

Woodrow Call
04-03-2005, 02:37 PM
Our 1st,2nd,4th,5th,6th and a 3rd next year for Miami's 1st and Patrick Surtain. :) Now there's a pipe dream ROFL


PhilFree :arrow:

That would be sweet. ROFL

HolmeZz
04-03-2005, 02:37 PM
Surtain.

Tribal Warfare
04-03-2005, 02:45 PM
DJ

SoCalBronco
04-03-2005, 02:56 PM
your right, he is the best player in the draft but he'll only be the second best DJ in the division.

Sure-Oz
04-03-2005, 02:58 PM
hahahahaha

his ass better not be in the division if we dont get him, which i know we wont but itd be nice, Surtain is my main focus, after that its bonus time.

beer bacon
04-03-2005, 03:03 PM
your right, he is the best player in the draft but he'll only be the second best DJ in the division.

I don't know about that.

keg in kc
04-03-2005, 03:04 PM
I'm not even going to contemplate it. He isn't going to end up here, there's no point in getting my hopes up.

SNR
04-03-2005, 03:22 PM
your right, he is the best player in the draft but he'll only be the second best DJ in the division.He is waaaaaay better than Darius Jackson :p

wazu
04-03-2005, 04:07 PM
Ah, but those late victories last year were just so precious. I'm so glad now that we pissed away a shot at Derrick Johnson so our coaches could save face.

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 04:08 PM
followed the link... don't see anything about us bring johnson in for a look




or our my eyes going :shrug:

Frankie
04-03-2005, 04:13 PM
...or our my eyes going :shrug:

No, but your English certainly is.:p

beer bacon
04-03-2005, 04:17 PM
Ah, but those late victories last year were just so precious. I'm so glad now that we pissed away a shot at Derrick Johnson so our coaches could save face.

Throwing games builds character.

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 04:18 PM
No, but your English certainly is.:p
ya know ... i think it's catching

i didn't have this our/are problem until i ran into JOhn here

KChiefs1
04-03-2005, 04:19 PM
Unless he gets hurt or gets into trouble with the law it is a pipedream.

I'm sure there are some Planeteers who could help get this moving! :p

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 04:19 PM
Throwing games builds character.

you don't have to have your players throw games to lose them

beer bacon
04-03-2005, 04:23 PM
you don't have to have your players throw games to lose them

If you have the ability to win a game, but you intentionally don't then somebody is throwing the game. That is not good for team morale. Who wants to play for a team that intentionally loses?

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 04:46 PM
If you have the ability to win a game, but you intentionally don't then somebody is throwing the game. That is not good for team morale. Who wants to play for a team that intentionally loses?
:rolleyes:

who would of questioned the coaches playing ANYONE new on our stinky @ss defense?

nobody


bench guys that were playing like crap ... start rookies under the guise of disciplining guys that weren't getting it done.

its a valid reason, where's the problem?


you get new guys game experience, lose your last few games ... get yourself the option of drafting who you need to draft.

beer bacon
04-03-2005, 04:57 PM
:rolleyes:

who would of questioned the coaches playing ANYONE new on our stinky @ss defense?

nobody


bench guys that were playing like crap ... start rookies under the guise of disciplining guys that weren't getting it done.

its a valid reason, where's the problem?


you get new guys game experience, lose your last few games ... get yourself the option of drafting who you need to draft.

We should throw our games every season. Imagine the talent we could grab in the draft!

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 05:00 PM
We should throw our games every season. Imagine the talent we could grab in the draft!
way to avoid the issue... brilliant!!!

beer bacon
04-03-2005, 05:03 PM
way to avoid the issue... brilliant!!!

I am not avoiding the issue. You are rationalizing throwing games so we could get better picks. Under no circumstances is it acceptable or good for the team to intentionally lose games. It doesn't matter what rationalization you steep the issue in, it is still wrong.

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 05:08 PM
I am not avoiding the issue. You are rationalizing throwing games so we could get better picks. Under no circumstances is it acceptable or good for the team to intentionally lose games. It doesn't matter what rationalization you steep the issue in, it is still wrong.
i hope your sitting on your high horse on draft day when we don't get derrick johnson and we end up starting some doink at linebacker all year.

everytime that doink messes up a play, you remember your "principal"

SNR
04-03-2005, 05:13 PM
i hope your sitting on your high horse on draft day when we don't get derrick johnson and we end up starting some doink at linebacker all year.

everytime that doink messes up a play, you remember your "principal"So what if Derrick Johnson turns out to be a really talented Percy Snow and the doink is the next DT?

beer bacon
04-03-2005, 05:22 PM
So what if Derrick Johnson turns out to be a really talented Percy Snow and the doink is the next DT?

This is simple. We just throw all the games next season and get really great draft position! If we keep throwing games and keep getting high draft picks we are bound to hit gold eventually.

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 05:23 PM
So what if Derrick Johnson turns out to be a really talented Percy Snow and the doink is the next DT?
and what if Trent Green grows a tail and joins the circus :shrug:


bottomline is that "apparently" the best option for us right now is to trade for patrick surtain and draft derrick johnson.

But because of some meaningless wins at the end of last year, that probably ain't gonna happen.

enjoy

SNR
04-03-2005, 05:27 PM
and what if Trent Green grows a tail and joins the circus :shrug:


bottomline is that "apparently" the best option for us right now is to trade for patrick surtain and draft derrick johnson.

But because of some meaningless wins at the end of last year, that probably ain't gonna happen.

enjoyDoes no good to bitch about it now

Ultra Peanut
04-03-2005, 05:29 PM
Fr-fr-fresh!

<img src="http://www.freewillpress.com/nss-folder/pictures/DJ%20QBert.jpg" style="width: 225px; height: 144px; border: 0" alt="" />

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 05:33 PM
This is simple. We just throw all the games next season and get really great draft position! If we keep throwing games and keep getting high draft picks we are bound to hit gold eventually.
that's just weak ... once again your avoiding reality.

we are talking about games played after we were eliminated from playoff contention. You can say all the silly shiit you want, but bottomline the team would of been better off with 2 more losses and a the 7th pick of the draft.

especially with with a good chance that antrel rolle and derrick johnson will be sitting there for the taking.

milkman
04-03-2005, 05:34 PM
At this point, we need to be focusng on guys like Carlos Rogers, Marlin Jackson, Kevin Burnett and Daryl Blackstock, guys that we have a legitimate chance at drafting.
DJ is a pipedream.

And while I agree with the principal that beer baron subscribes to, I also agree with Laz.

We should have played the young guys.

Not with the intention of throwing games, but with the intention of developing players, and finding out what we have.

If the result is losing, then that's the price paid for developing a winner.

However, with the defense as pathetic as it was, I can't see how playing these guys would have made any difference in the outcome of games in the latter part of the season.

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 05:34 PM
Does no good to bitch about it now

alot of people were talking about it before those last games were played too.

a guy like beer baron were disagreeing then ... sure enough, those meaningless wins are going to hurt us now.

beer bacon
04-03-2005, 05:40 PM
alot of people were talking about it before those last games were played too.

a guy like beer baron were disagreeing then ... sure enough, those meaningless wins are going to hurt us now.

I guess I am just old fashioned. I would rather win and keep some pride then lose and move up a few spots in the draft. Also, I was in favor of starting players like Fox, Parker, etc..

Digital Takawira
04-03-2005, 05:40 PM
Fr-fr-fresh!

<img src="http://www.freewillpress.com/nss-folder/pictures/DJ%20QBert.jpg" style="width: 225px; height: 144px; border: 0" alt="" />


http://www.simonsandstein.com/cooler/2003-summer/wavetwisters/Dentist_and_Rubbish.jpg

HemiEd
04-03-2005, 05:42 PM
This is simple. We just throw all the games next season and get really great draft position! If we keep throwing games and keep getting high draft picks we are bound to hit gold eventually.


Tell that to the Bears and Bengals! ROFL

beer bacon
04-03-2005, 05:44 PM
Tell that to the Bears and Bengals! ROFL

Those suckers don't have Carl Peterson drafting for them.

philfree
04-03-2005, 05:46 PM
alot of people were talking about it before those last games were played too.

a guy like beer baron were disagreeing then ... sure enough, those meaningless wins are going to hurt us now.


Who are the defenders you are talking about starting besides Fox? Which offensive players besides Parker who did play some? Just curious.....I'm all for developing youth when given the chance I'm just not sure who you mean. I'd never start youth if it was obvious that we had no chance to win with said youth on the field of we had options that were better. Always play to win.


PhilFree :arrow:

The Bad Guy
04-03-2005, 05:49 PM
I guess I am just old fashioned. I would rather win and keep some pride then lose and move up a few spots in the draft. Also, I was in favor of starting players like Fox, Parker, etc..

When you haven't won a playoff game in 13 years, what the hell does 2 meaningless wins in December do after your eliminated from contention?

I'd rather be mad for 2 weeks that we lost and have a better draft pick and get better for the future.

Mr. Laz
04-03-2005, 05:50 PM
I guess I am just old fashioned. I would rather win and keep some pride then lose and move up a few spots in the draft. Also, I was in favor of starting players like Fox, Parker, etc..
i guess so ... i'm less worried about some temporary pride points and more concern with getting this team good enough to win a super bowl


imo real pride comes when your team is truly good and competes for a super bowl

.... not by beating the titans in a meaningless december game.

beer bacon
04-03-2005, 05:52 PM
When you haven't won a playoff game in 13 years, what the hell does 2 meaningless wins in December do after your eliminated from contention?

I'd rather be mad for 2 weeks that we lost and have a better draft pick and get better for the future.

You guys seem to think that seasons have no relevance to each other. I have always believed that ending a season on a positive note can carry into the next year. I was pretty upset when we lost the San Diego game to their 2nd string offense because of this.

HemiEd
04-03-2005, 05:54 PM
Those suckers don't have Carl Peterson drafting for them.


And they still suck! I am actually convinced we semi-threw the last game against San Diego. How many picks did that move us up? But I am like you, I do not want to ever see them lose a game and I hate setting on that stupid embarrassing loss all of the off-season.

Ultra Peanut
07-19-2005, 05:37 AM
Ah, but those late victories last year were just so precious. I'm so glad now that we pissed away a shot at Derrick Johnson so our coaches could save face.<img src="http://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/b/2/b2k337587.jpg" style="width: 269px; height: 268px; border: 0" alt="" />

jspchief
07-19-2005, 06:04 AM
i hope your sitting on your high horse on draft day when we don't get derrick johnson and we end up starting some doink at linebacker all year.

everytime that doink messes up a play, you remember your "principal"pwned !!1!eleven!!111!! :)

KChiefs1
07-19-2005, 06:54 AM
At this point, we need to be focusng on guys like Carlos Rogers, Marlin Jackson, Kevin Burnett and Daryl Blackstock, guys that we have a legitimate chance at drafting.
DJ is a pipedream.

Some good shit in that pipe! :)

Infidel Goat
07-19-2005, 07:04 AM
everytime that doink messes up a play, you remember your "principal"

http://www.thesimpsonsquotes.com/images/skinnerpointing.gif

Hey, hey, hey, hey
Ohhhh...

Tell me your troubles and doubts
Giving me everything inside and out and
Love's strange so real in the dark
Think of the tender things we were working on.

Slow change may pull us apart
When the light gets into your heart, baby

Don't your forget about me.
Don't dont don't don't
Don't you forget about me.

Lzen
07-19-2005, 07:22 AM
These pre-draft predictions about DJ were kinda funny. But you gotta cut them some slack. Most experts had DJ going in the top 5 or at the very least, top 10. It looked like we had a snowball's chance in Hell. I'll admit that I was floored when I heard we drafted him. And I'm still giddy about it. :)

Coach
07-19-2005, 08:09 AM
These pre-draft predictions about DJ were kinda funny. But you gotta cut them some slack. Most experts had DJ going in the top 5 or at the very least, top 10. It looked like we had a snowball's chance in Hell. I'll admit that I was floored when I heard we drafted him. And I'm still giddy about it. :)

That's what I read as well. Before the Chiefs picked him in the 15th, every f**king expert, including Mel Keiper was drooling all over him about that he was the best defensive player on the board.

Now when the Chiefs selected him in the 15th, all they did, ever since, was slam him for his shitty tackling and going around the linemen. Ummm f**kos, I don't know how many times I have to remind you that you guys said that he's the best defensive player in the Draft.

The point is that fast playmaking linebackers avoid picking up a block if at all possible to gain speed and try to make something happen in the backfield. Note how the bolding points out that "f**kos" is being pluralized, meaning more than one of the NFL experts.

Coach
07-19-2005, 08:36 AM
Another thing to think about.

DJ Williams, finished second in total tackles on his team with a whole 82 (44 solo) in his senior year.

Derrick Johnson led his team with 130 tackles and was only 9 solo tackles (73) shy of the amount of total tackles that DJ Williams had in his entire senior season.

jynni
07-19-2005, 08:51 AM
It looked like we had a snowball's chance in Hell. I'll admit that I was floored when I heard we drafted him. And I'm still giddy about it.
Me too. I didn't get to watch any of the draft and I logged onto the Planet fully expecting an implosion. When I saw we had drafted DJ my first thought was "who/what did we trade in order to move up". I was having horrible thoughts of Priest/LJ trades and no first round or second round picks for next year.

I near fell over when I saw that he actually fell to us.

I'm loving reading all the mini camps reports that are saying that he's awesome and that we practically stole him.

Chieficus
07-19-2005, 08:54 AM
So are alot of other teams
http://www.qisports.com/derrickjohnson2005.html
Would be nice addition would have to move up though.

Man, if we're able to get our hands on DJ, I'll...

...oh... Nevermind...

Stinger
07-19-2005, 09:01 AM
bottomline is that "apparently" the best option for us right now is to trade for patrick surtain and draft derrick johnson.

But because of some meaningless wins at the end of last year, that probably ain't gonna happen.

enjoy

Oh so close, you almost had it there ROFL ROFL

Lzen
07-19-2005, 09:03 AM
Me too. I didn't get to watch any of the draft and I logged onto the Planet fully expecting an implosion. When I saw we had drafted DJ my first thought was "who/what did we trade in order to move up". I was having horrible thoughts of Priest/LJ trades and no first round or second round picks for next year.

I near fell over when I saw that he actually fell to us.

I'm loving reading all the mini camps reports that are saying that he's awesome and that we practically stole him.

Exactly!! I think we got the steal of the draft. Of course, time will tell. :thumb:

Rausch
07-19-2005, 09:18 AM
i hope your sitting on your high horse on draft day when we don't get derrick johnson and we end up starting some doink at linebacker all year.

everytime that doink messes up a play, you remember your "principal"

Right now I'm pretty happy DV decided to win so I didn't flush that $60 down the toiled by going to a late-season game...

and what if Trent Green grows a tail and joins the circus?...

Ok, if I'm gonna' point out your misses I might as well praise yer' gems...

chief4life
07-19-2005, 09:23 AM
ok someone find that kickass video and post it i want to see it bigger. Do your magic people lol

jspchief
07-19-2005, 09:29 AM
ok someone find that kickass video and post it i want to see it bigger. Do your magic people lolThe one where he displays sh*tty tackling technique on 99% of the tackles? No thanks. I don't want to see that again.

Ari Chi3fs
07-19-2005, 09:49 AM
Actually, Ill never forget where I was the day and time when Derrick Johnson became a Chief on Draft Day. I couldnt ****ing believe it, I still cant ****ing believe it.

Now, ****ing get his ass signed, TC is in one week.

regald
07-19-2005, 10:04 AM
post the vid

beavis
07-19-2005, 10:13 AM
I bet we don't get Surtain either.

Mr. Laz
07-19-2005, 10:14 AM
pwned !!1!eleven!!111!! :)
not even close

how often is a guy like DJ gonna fall



it doesn't change my beliefs one bit ... as soon as a team is eliminated from playoff contention they should start planning for the future by playing the young guys.

whoman69
07-19-2005, 10:20 AM
I knew for sure that the Lions were going to take him. But Matt Millen showed he has more stupidity than I have imagination. I would have put our chances at getting DJ straight up at about the same as V'gers pre-draft fantasy of getting Terrance Newman a couple years ago.
I do have to look down on anyone that thinks that a team should blow games for draft position. You can go into those late season games in a lost season and find you really can compete. If you throw the game you're telling every single player on the roster they are not good enough, so what's the point. If they had been ordered to drop those games, do you think that Shields, Richardson and Roaf are going to stick around for another year of the bullsh!t?

TRR
07-19-2005, 10:21 AM
The third DJ Video: You'll have to right click and save on Unofficial 2003 Highlight Video to see this one.

Link:
http://www.jcdenton40.com/DerrickJohnson2003.html

jAZ
07-19-2005, 10:50 AM
Here is the video.

Link:
http://mackbrown-texasfootball.com/...04_johnson.html
Another DJ Video:

Link:
http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/op...ontextwidth=417
http://healthcybermap.semanticweb.org/brokenlink.jpg

TRR
07-19-2005, 10:52 AM
Try this for the first one...


http://mackbrown-texasfootball.com/awards.04/000_johnson.html

It's the Derrick Johnson higlight video on the left side.


Try this for the second one...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115058&highlight=Derrick+Johnson+video

Click on the link in the Title Thread.

Thig Lyfe
07-19-2005, 12:12 PM
Are they on yet?

Wallcrawler
07-19-2005, 12:58 PM
Laz should maybe watch that classic Herman Edwards press conference with the jackass media person suggesting something similar about how the game didnt matter, and maybe he would understand why fans, and players want to win every game even though the game "doesnt matter" in regard to final outcome of the season.


You play to win the game.

HELLO?!?!!!

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!


Then he goes on to explain something to the effect of that no matter what the record is, you play every game to win. Dont bring any of that BS about how the game doesnt matter, because it matters.



You dont just take the rest of the season off once youre eliminated from the playoffs. That is without a doubt one of the most asinine suggestions Ive ever heard.

If youre willing to throw a game, ANY GAME, AT ANY TIME, youre not worthy of improving, or competing for the championship. If youre the type of athlete/coach who has no problems with taking a dive, then youre a disgrace to the game. The fans dont take the time to watch the game, nor spend the money for the tickets to see the team taking a dive.

Its flat out disgraceful.

Period.


The fact that we got Derrick Johnson WITHOUT throwing games makes it all the sweeter.

Mr. Laz
07-19-2005, 01:01 PM
Laz should maybe watch that classic Herman Edwards press conference with the jackass media person suggesting something similar about how the game didnt matter, and maybe he would understand why fans, and players want to win every game even though the game "doesnt matter" in regard to final outcome of the season.
did someone fart? :fart:

Chiefnj
07-19-2005, 01:14 PM
DJ looks great in some of these clips:

http://www.easports.com/games/ncaa06/videos.jsp?setID=Defensive%20Controls&resID=hi

The biggest break the Chiefs got on draft day was Thomas Davis being drafted by the Panthers at 14.

Otter
07-19-2005, 01:15 PM
When did getting the rookies actuall game time after playoff elimination and throwing the game become synonymous?

I see a big difference between the two.

TRR
07-19-2005, 01:35 PM
DJ looks great in some of these clips:

http://www.easports.com/games/ncaa06/videos.jsp?setID=Defensive%20Controls&resID=hi

The biggest break the Chiefs got on draft day was Thomas Davis being drafted by the Panthers at 14.

Why is DJ in NCAA Football 06 Highlights?

I didn't want Thomas Davis at all. I really think he is a better fit at strong safety in the NFL. I know the Chiefs coaching staff really liked him though. if both Davis and DJ were there at #15, I think Davis would have been the pick.