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tk13
04-09-2005, 07:47 PM
Interesting piece on the inflation of ticket prices...

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/ESPNSports/story?id=655688&page=1

Fan's season ticket bill rises 650 percent
L.A. Dodgers Fan to Boycott Opener for first time in 43 Years
By PETER IMBER

LOS ANGELES, April 9, 2005 Irv Zeiger actually ordered his first season tickets for Los Angeles Dodger games when the team was still in Brooklyn. The owner thought he was a nut. But Zeiger got them and he still has the ticket stubs from the first opening day game ever played at Dodger Stadium in 1962.

He hasn't missed an opening day game there since a streak that goes back 43 years, a streak that will be broken this Tuesday when the Dodgers play their 2005 home opener.

Irv Zeiger won't be in his seat Tuesday. He'll be staying at his home watching the game on television. It's not because he's ill. It's because he's heartbroken.

Zeiger's had at least four season seats right behind the Dodger dugout for all those years. He was in them for Sandy Koufax's perfect game in 1965 and Kirk Gibson's World Series home run in 1988. Last season, he paid $16,000 for them $4,000 a ticket.

But when Zeiger got a phone call this winter from the Dodgers ticket office, he couldn't believe what he was hearing.

"I thought she was kidding," Zeiger said. "And that's exactly what I said to her, 'You got to be kidding.' And she kind of giggled over the phone and said, 'No, that's the price.' "

The price to get four tickets behind the dugout this year would be $120,000 nearly eight times the old price.

The reason? Four rows of new seats have been built in front of Zeiger's old ones. The dugout is now 30 feet closer to the field. The new seats also include great parking and gourmet food. And the Dodgers say they need the money.

'Expensive Business'

Greg McElroy, a Dodgers vice president, makes no apologies for the new $30,000 season ticket price.

"It's a very expensive business to run," he said. "And if you want to field the best team, you're going to have to pay for the best players."

Inflation is a fact in baseball. The average salary of a major league baseball player this season is expected to be more than $2.5 million. That's more than double what it was 15 years ago. Baseball ticket prices have also more than doubled in that time, up 120 percent while the consumer price index has risen only 45 percent.

Russell Adams, who writes about baseball for Street and Smith's Sports Business Journal, said the Dodgers' price hike is not unreasonable, but that there definitely is a rich-fan/poor-fan sports ticket reality in stadiums and arenas today.

"It's not just baseball, and it's not just the Dodgers," Adams said. "The average fan really does not have access anymore to the best seats. It's just too expensive to run a club, and it's too expensive to give those seats away or sell them for cheap.

"Dodger Stadium is one of the older stadiums which is why they're doing this," he added. "But all of the newer stadiums are centered around how many luxury suites, how many club seats they can offer. Because that's where the money comes from."

Cheaper Options

The Dodgers do have some cheap seats. There are about 10,000 of them at $6 each in the bleachers and the highest deck behind home plate. But in a $20 million stadium renovation, the team added 1,600 expensive seats this season and has had no trouble selling them.

"The demand was greater than our supply," the Dodgers' McElroy said. "We needed to add this type of inventory, because we have a high-end user here that demands special services and value.

"You can still have a great time up in the bleachers, and hoot and holler and have a great time with your family, and eat a Dodger dog," he added. "And there are some people who are coming to a game and want to eat filet mignon."

So, for the first time in 43 years, other fans willing to pay more will be sitting in front of Irv Zeiger. He renewed his old seats, now four rows back, and their price went up, too. He's paying $1,500-a-seat more this year than last, and there's no great parking or gourmet food. But he'll be back, he says just not for the first game.

"Being at Dodger Stadium with my family and my kids as they grew older with my friends at a ball game is about as good a thing as I could ever do on a given day," he said. "And I think that's just not going to happen anymore for me."

"No question about it," he added. "My heart has been broken over this matter. That's the truth."

gblowfish
04-09-2005, 07:52 PM
What a beautiful, heartfelt, life changing story. I loved it. I mean it, I REALLY loved it. Thank you...no, BLESS YOU...for posting that story.
God Bless the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Sincerely,
Carl D. Peterson
President
General Manager
CEO
Poop Does Not Stink Poohbah
Kansas City Chiefs

Phobia
04-09-2005, 08:03 PM
Nice job, George. Here's a link to your site getting some love:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=24810

gblowfish
04-09-2005, 08:14 PM
Nice job, George. Here's a link to your site getting some love:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=24810Wow! Thanks Phobia. I guess I'm a crossover hit, eh?

Are you like the CP's ambassador to Donkville? Hope you give them ample bushels of the smack they so richly deserve!

Phobia
04-09-2005, 08:15 PM
Wow! Thanks Phobia. I guess I'm a crossover hit, eh?

Are you like the CP's ambassador to Donkville? Hope you give them ample bushels of the smack they so richly deserve!

No - I actually rarely participate over there. Just happened to be there tonight.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-09-2005, 08:20 PM
Wow! Thanks Phobia. I guess I'm a crossover hit, eh?

Are you like the CP's ambassador to Donkville? Hope you give them ample bushels of the smack they so richly deserve!


I'd never seen that site before, it's f*ckin awesome

Miles
04-09-2005, 08:32 PM
The value of the dollar based on the consumer price index has been inflated by 618% accorting to some website i found on google. (What cost $1 in 1962 would cost $6.18 in 2005.)

Sincerely,
Corporate apologist

Skip Towne
04-09-2005, 08:41 PM
I wish you'd label these as baseball threads in the header. NOBODY gives a shit about baseball.

tk13
04-09-2005, 08:52 PM
I wish you'd label these as baseball threads in the header. NOBODY gives a shit about baseball.
In that case, maybe I should make a motion to have your username changed to "baseball".

Skip Towne
04-09-2005, 08:55 PM
In that case, maybe I should make a motion to have your username changed to "baseball".
Or I could make one to change your name to "dipshit". You'll do anything to get those ignorant Royals on the front page now won't you?

tk13
04-09-2005, 08:59 PM
Or I could make one to change your name to "dipshit". You'll do anything to get those ignorant Royals on the front page now won't you?
Come on Skip, go nuts. You're about due for your usual April meltdown. Don't disappoint us. This thread had nothing to do with the Royals.

Spott
04-09-2005, 09:03 PM
Damn, that idiot was spending 200 bucks a night on baseball tickets. It's about time that dude gets a life.

Skip Towne
04-09-2005, 09:04 PM
Come on Skip, go nuts. You're about due for your usual April meltdown. Don't disappoint us. This thread had nothing to do with the Royals.
Yeah, you're right. As long as you're around touting the Triple A Royals on the front page, I'll be around telling you nobody f*cking cares about them but you.

tk13
04-09-2005, 09:17 PM
Yeah, you're right. As long as you're around touting the Triple A Royals on the front page, I'll be around telling you nobody f*cking cares about them but you.
Yeah, because I'm all over the front page with Royals articles. Look at all of them, I can hardly see anything else. I've posted like one Royals article since opening day and I'm somehow spamming the front page. We go through this every year. You need to get off the pot, it's definitely destroyed your brain, you can't tell who is posting what.

gblowfish
04-09-2005, 09:23 PM
Yeah, you're right. As long as you're around touting the Triple A Royals on the front page, I'll be around telling you nobody f*cking cares about them but you.Hey..the Royals are NOT a Triple A team...
Triple A players eventually succeed in the Majors.
C'mon Skip...you guys talk non-stop KU Basketball on the CP from December to March...that makes me want to poke my eyes out with a fork!
I still love the Royals, even if they are "competitively challenged."
Just updated my Royals page today too!
http://www.georgeblowfish.com/Royals2005-1.html

tk13
04-09-2005, 09:29 PM
Hey..the Royals are NOT a Triple A team...
Triple A players eventually succeed in the Majors.
C'mon Skip...you guys talk non-stop KU Basketball on the CP from December to March...that makes me want to poke my eyes out with a fork!
I still love the Royals, even if they are "competitively challenged."
Just updated my Royals page today too!
http://www.georgeblowfish.com/Royals2005-1.html
Don't mind Skip, he does this every year. Usually he goes totally apeshit and blames everything to do with the Royals on this board on me. It's just a rite of passage on the board. That's what happens when you follow a crappy major college basketball team that is owned by Bucknell and hasn't won a title since the last time the Royals were good, no matter that he posts that crap all over the front page all winter, he has to vent his frustrations somehow.

Skip Towne
04-09-2005, 09:33 PM
Hey..the Royals are NOT a Triple A team...
Triple A players eventually succeed in the Majors.
C'mon Skip...you guys talk non-stop KU Basketball on the CP from December to March...that makes me want to poke my eyes out with a fork!
I still love the Royals, even if they are "competitively challenged."
Just updated my Royals page today too!
http://www.georgeblowfish.com/Royals2005-1.html
Well, you're wrong. If KU had their own forum I'd use it and so would the rest of us Jayhawks. But the Royals HAVE their own forum and their followers refuse to use it. They, particularly TK13, insist on cramming that minor league shit down our throats. Please get up to speed before running your mouth about something you know nothing about.

gblowfish
04-09-2005, 09:42 PM
Well, you're wrong. If KU had their own forum I'd use it and so would the rest of us Jayhawks. But the Royals HAVE their own forum and their followers refuse to use it. They, particularly TK13, insist on cramming that minor league shit down our throats. Please get up to speed before running your mouth about something you know nothing about.Skip, you have roughly the same tactful people skills as Donald Trump. Only difference: he has an amusing TV show and you don't. Hey, if you want a special KU Basketball worship section, by all means, go for it. This thread is about rising ticket prices in professional sports. Sometime (God forbid) other subjects get brought up to support a position. Believe it or not, the Royals are an actual, real life professional sports organization. They file tax returns and everything.

Please get up to speed before insulting others.

|Zach|
04-09-2005, 09:43 PM
Well, you're wrong. If KU had their own forum I'd use it and so would the rest of us Jayhawks. But the Royals HAVE their own forum and their followers refuse to use it. They, particularly TK13, insist on cramming that minor league shit down our throats. Please get up to speed before running your mouth about something you know nothing about.
Jeez, what a cortchity old bastard...there are tons of people who like reading royals stuff and discussions. Unless tk13 is going to your outhouse turning on your webtv and making you open Royals threads then maybe you should take some midol and settle down.

tk13
04-09-2005, 09:49 PM
I've started one thread since opening day about the Royals. I'm half inclined to post about 9 or 10 Royals articles tonight just to show you what having something crammed down the throat really is. If I'm going to get my ass chewed on every year I might as well make it worthwhile and go roy jr. on the board.

|Zach|
04-09-2005, 10:00 PM
I've started one thread since opening day about the Royals. I'm half inclined to post about 9 or 10 Royals articles tonight just to show you what having something crammed down the throat really is. If I'm going to get my ass chewed on every year I might as well make it worthwhile and go roy jr. on the board.
ROFL ROFL