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dave0320
04-10-2005, 11:12 AM
Awesome!

bogie
04-11-2005, 12:07 PM
I gotta tell ya. That was an exciting Masters tournament. Hats off to Tiger and Chris.

jspchief
04-11-2005, 12:10 PM
He got outplayed on Sunday. He's lucky he had the 3 stroke lead going in. Just about gave it away.

carlos3652
04-11-2005, 12:20 PM
He got outplayed on Sunday. He's lucky he had the 3 stroke lead going in. Just about gave it away.

Yea.. He's lucky he was only down by 10 strokes on the start of Saturday... the way he outplayed the field on Saturday and Sunday morning was ridiculous...

He went to conservative mode while dimarco went to attacking mode... almost cost him, but to do what he did was incredible... and that shot on 16 was crazy....

I applaud Chris' play, but Tiger played his best final 3 rounds in the last 3 years @ a Major....

where were the rest:

Vijay - 8 shots off Tiger
Mickelson - 9 shots off Tiger
Els - 22 shots off Tiger

Els almost mist the cut (1 stroke) and Tiger has 140 consecutive made cuts... current closest 2nd in cuts made: 19...

Tiger is back and look out...

philfree
04-11-2005, 12:38 PM
Yea.. He's lucky he was only down by 10 strokes on the start of Saturday... the way he outplayed the field on Saturday and Sunday morning was ridiculous...

He went to conservative mode while dimarco went to attacking mode... almost cost him, but to do what he did was incredible... and that shot on 16 was crazy....

I applaud Chris' play, but Tiger played his best final 3 rounds in the last 3 years @ a Major....

where were the rest:

Vijay - 8 shots off Tiger
Mickelson - 9 shots off Tiger
Els - 22 shots off Tiger

Els almost mist the cut (1 stroke) and Tiger has 140 consecutive made cuts... current closest 2nd in cuts made: 19...

Tiger is back and look out...

If Tigers ball bounbced the direction that most peoples ball bounces when it's rattlling around in the trees he wouldn't of won. How many fairways did he hit on the back nine yesterday? One or maybe two? He really never got penalized for it. Usually the Masters is won or lost on the back 9 on sunday and Tiger got his ass kicked by a guy who is about 60 yards shorter off the tee. Tigers swing was sucking bad yesterday. He was out of control until the sudden death hole where he hit two fine shots and made his putt. He got the win but I wasn't impressed by his play.


PhilFree:arrow:

bogie
04-11-2005, 12:46 PM
If Tigers ball bounbced the direction that most peoples ball bounces when it's rattlling around in the trees he wouldn't of won. How many fairways did he hit on the back nine yesterday? One or maybe two? He really never got penalized for it. Usually the Masters is won or lost on the back 9 on sunday and Tiger got his ass kicked by a guy who is about 60 yards shorter off the tee. Tigers swing was sucking bad yesterday. He was out of control until the sudden death hole where he hit two fine shots and made his putt. He got the win but I wasn't impressed by his play.


PhilFree:arrow:

Even at his worst, how can you not be impressed by his play? He's number 1 in the world. That's pretty impressive to me. But, I'm just a hacker.

redbrian
04-11-2005, 12:50 PM
Even at his worst, how can you not be impressed by his play? He's number 1 in the world. That's pretty impressive to me. But, I'm just a hacker.

I wish my game sucked that bad.

BIG_DADDY
04-11-2005, 12:53 PM
If Tigers ball bounbced the direction that most peoples ball bounces when it's rattlling around in the trees he wouldn't of won. How many fairways did he hit on the back nine yesterday? One or maybe two? He really never got penalized for it. Usually the Masters is won or lost on the back 9 on sunday and Tiger got his ass kicked by a guy who is about 60 yards shorter off the tee. Tigers swing was sucking bad yesterday. He was out of control until the sudden death hole where he hit two fine shots and made his putt. He got the win but I wasn't impressed by his play.


PhilFree:arrow:

That one chip shot was incredible though on what was it the 16th? I was barbacueing and kind of getting the run down from friends.

philfree
04-11-2005, 12:53 PM
Even at his worst, how can you not be impressed by his play? He's number 1 in the world. That's pretty impressive to me. But, I'm just a hacker.

The last 9 holes of the Maters he got beat by 3 strokes by a guy who is 60 yards shorter off the tee. 60 yards!!! He played a great round of military golf.......Left, Right, Left, Right........He was over swinging bad IMO.

PhilFree :arrow:

jspchief
04-11-2005, 12:57 PM
The chip shot was awesome, but it was also extremely lucky. Any awe that shot inspired was quickly erased by him bogeying the next two holes to allow it to get to a play-off. He was spectacular in rounds 2 and 3, but I found his play in the final round less than impressive. Especially the way he finished the round.

He almost choked away all that he had done in rounds 2 and 3. Color me unimpressed.

bogie
04-11-2005, 01:01 PM
Yes, he did struggle on the back 9 on Sunday. But he and Dimarco beat the hell out of the rest of the field. I was impressed by them both. Tiger did what all champions do, he did what was necessary to win. Even with some of his fortunate bounces. He was near perfect on the playoff which was when it really counted.

philfree
04-11-2005, 01:04 PM
That one chip shot was incredible though on what was it the 16th? I was barbacueing and kind of getting the run down from friends.

He does have a great short game but he couldn't even hit the fairway with a 3 wood yesterday on the back 9. It just seems he gets his breaks right in the middle of crunch time and that bugs me because I'm always a big fan of the underdog. It would have meant so much more for DiMarco to get that win then it did for Tiger. A million times more.


PhilFree:arrow:

BIG_DADDY
04-11-2005, 01:04 PM
The chip shot was awesome, but it was also extremely lucky. Any awe that shot inspired was quickly erased by him bogeying the next two holes to allow it to get to a play-off. He was spectacular in rounds 2 and 3, but I found his play in the final round less than impressive. Especially the way he finished the round.

He almost choked away all that he had done in rounds 2 and 3. Color me unimpressed.

I was more impressed with the white boy winning that slam dunk contest Saturday morning. I never thought I would see the day. All the brothers were pissed. I laughed my balls off.

bogie
04-11-2005, 01:07 PM
The chip shot was awesome, but it was also extremely lucky. Any awe that shot inspired was quickly erased by him bogeying the next two holes to allow it to get to a play-off. He was spectacular in rounds 2 and 3, but I found his play in the final round less than impressive. Especially the way he finished the round.

He almost choked away all that he had done in rounds 2 and 3. Color me unimpressed.

Are you unimpressed because you know he can play better? Does your game compare to his? How can anyone not be impressed with his game? At his worst on Sunday, he's still the number one golfer in the world. How can that not be impressive? I am impressed by anyone that has skills that are better than mine, whether it's sports, acting, management skills, etc.

jspchief
04-11-2005, 01:18 PM
Are you unimpressed because you know he can play better? Does your game compare to his? How can anyone not be impressed with his game? At his worst on Sunday, he's still the number one golfer in the world. How can that not be impressive? I am impressed by anyone that has skills that are better than mine, whether it's sports, acting, management skills, etc.
No my game doesn't compare to his. Does that exclude me from having an opinion? Considering 75% of the posts on this BB are criticisms of athletes by people who don't measure up, I don't think what I'm saying is that out of the norm.

I consider it a rather unimpressive Sunday performance. He almost choked away the Masters on the back 9. It's no different than if Chiefs played like hell, and won in spite of their poor play. I'd probably say it was an unimpressive win also (along with a lot of other people).

Am I impressed with his skill level? Of course. That goes without saying. I'm impressed with the skill level of any athlete that's good enough to play on the highest level. But what goes along with playing at that level is an expectation of performance.

Tiger's win of this Masters tournament won't be remembered as one of the greats. It may be remebered for his lucky shot on 16, but thats all. And I'll remember his performance as him spending the entire afternoon in the rough, and missing a very makeable putt on 18 that would have sealed it.

Stinger
04-11-2005, 01:23 PM
Tiger's 1st and 4th round were very unimpressive. His 2nd and 3rd round were spectaular.

Who would have thought that tiger would have choked (I use that term because everytime tiger came from behind people would say that) a 2 stroke lead with 2 to play.

Conversely Dimarco had one really bad nine holes. Hehe ... people were saying he choked before the final round.

Great theater displayed, Tiger won props to him. Nailed the 15-18 foot putt in Sudden death.

But can you imagin the talk if Dimarco's chip goes in on 18 in regulation. How that ball didn't check up and go in is beyond me.

KCTitus
04-11-2005, 01:27 PM
That chip in on 16 was actually not that uncommon. In the last 5-6 years 2-3 other people have done that--MOF Mickelson had the same shot last year and missed it by less than an inch. The Sunday pin is in the low portion of that green and if you hit the middle of that green, the ball will funnel down to the hole. It's actually an easier pin position than the 3rd round when the pin is at the of the hill.

Tiger's hype is beyond ridiculous, but he is clutch...he's made more clutch shots than any other that I can remember.

jspchief
04-11-2005, 01:33 PM
That chip in on 16 was actually not that uncommon. In the last 5-6 years 2-3 other people have done that--MOF Mickelson had the same shot last year and missed it by less than an inch. The Sunday pin is in the low portion of that green and if you hit the middle of that green, the ball will funnel down to the hole. It's actually an easier pin position than the 3rd round when the pin is at the of the hill.

Tiger's hype is beyond ridiculous, but he is clutch...he's made more clutch shots than any other that I can remember.
I was actually going to mention that. Everything that landed behind the flag on 16 almost went in. There were a ton of tee shots that just missed the hole, and there had even been a hole in one a few groups earlier.

bogie
04-11-2005, 01:40 PM
I didn't mean to sound like you shouldn't have an opinion. I was truely curious about your skill level. I'm an admitted cup half full homer. You are right, Tiger's back 9 performance was well below what he's capable of. So in that regard, it was unimpressive. But I still think it was impressive the way he hung on and did what was necessary to win. And that chip on 16 was not all luck. It required skill and hours and hours of practice to read the putt as well as get the ball to land on the right spot for the shot to at least come close and the speed was perfect.

Stinger
04-11-2005, 02:33 PM
That chip in on 16 was actually not that uncommon. In the last 5-6 years 2-3 other people have done that--MOF Mickelson had the same shot last year and missed it by less than an inch. The Sunday pin is in the low portion of that green and if you hit the middle of that green, the ball will funnel down to the hole. It's actually an easier pin position than the 3rd round when the pin is at the of the hill.

I was actually going to mention that. Everything that landed behind the flag on 16 almost went in. There were a ton of tee shots that just missed the hole, and there had even been a hole in one a few groups earlier.

Hey I got to give Tiger his props on this shot, just because of the lie he had up against the collar of the second cut. To get the ball to check off that lie is extremely difficult. If the ball doesn't check up the ball end up no where near the hole, i.e. Dimarco chip on 18 in regulation if his ball checks it is in the hole and more than likely wins the Masters.

carlos3652
04-11-2005, 02:53 PM
The funny thing was Dimarco was @ -8 and Tiger was @ +2 on Saturday morning, from that point on Dimarco was -4 on the last 2 days and Tiger was -15 (including the playoff hole). Tiger might have choked in the end, but I dont know about you, but playing 48 holes in 2 days (28 on sunday) might have something to do with it...

KCTitus
04-11-2005, 03:20 PM
Hey I got to give Tiger his props on this shot, just because of the lie he had up against the collar of the second cut. To get the ball to check off that lie is extremely difficult. If the ball doesn't check up the ball end up no where near the hole, i.e. Dimarco chip on 18 in regulation if his ball checks it is in the hole and more than likely wins the Masters.

That's fine...it's just an easier shot as Ive seen it done with regularity. I think my problem with it is that shot might actually overshadow the biggest shot which was his putt on 18 on the playoff hole to win it. He fired it at the hole, had that missed that ball is 6-8 ft past the hole--alas, it wasnt as dramatic as the ball inching up to the edge, stopping, and then rolling at least half a revolution before it fell in so that will be the 'highlight' of the tourney in the future.

beavis
04-11-2005, 03:23 PM
Tiger's hype is beyond ridiculous, but he is clutch...he's made more clutch shots than any other that I can remember.
Wow, the youngest to win his 9th major is hype?

Dr. Facebook Fever
04-11-2005, 03:25 PM
I was rooting for DiMarco..... but Tiger is definately the man.

KCTitus
04-11-2005, 03:25 PM
Wow, the youngest to win his 9th major is hype?

I guess had I said that, then you would have had a point. I was more referring to the headlines and commentary about 'all being right with the golf world again'...that's nonsense.

Stinger
04-11-2005, 03:31 PM
I was more referring to the headlines and commentary about 'all being right with the golf world again'...that's nonsense.

I concur

beavis
04-11-2005, 03:32 PM
I guess had I said that, then you would have had a point. I was more referring to the headlines and commentary about 'all being right with the golf world again'...that's nonsense.
Well, you said "Tiger's hype", how else am I supposed to take it?

philfree
04-11-2005, 04:48 PM
Well, you said "Tiger's hype", how else am I supposed to take it?

Tiger's the most hyped golfer ever. Is he over hyped? He's the one who has figure out which Green Jacket to wear to dinner. IMO what DiMarco did in his final 18 was more impressive. He was out muscled, out hyped and coming off a 41 on the back 9 of the rain delayed 3rd round. He sacked up and dueled with golfs golden boy and out played him. What really cost DiMarco the tournement was not making his birdie putts on the front 9. Ball striking wise he was far superior to Woods but you gotta make those fairly short birdie putts........My hats off to the guy none the less.

PhilFree :arrow:

Dayze
04-11-2005, 09:45 PM
that was awesome.
I think I drank a six pack between holes 12-18.

Huge putt by DiMarco on 12 I believe;
then the insane chip in from the rough fringe by Tiger.
Dang.

Surprised DiMarco layed up with the near identical shot on 18, to have the ball roll back down off the green again.


that's one of the best Masters I've seen in recent memory. (although Phil last year was cool)

ChiefsFanatic
04-12-2005, 10:06 AM
Just reading the first page of posts, I am amazed that people are talking shit about Tiger getting beat on the back 9 on Sunday.

He played 72 holes, like everyone else who made the cut. After 72 holes, 1 person was tied with him. After 73 holes, his score was lower.

F anything else. His score was lower. LOWER. Nothing else matters. I don't think there is a slot on the scorecard for marking good shots or bad shots, just the damn score for that hole.

KCTitus
04-12-2005, 10:13 AM
Well, you said "Tiger's hype", how else am I supposed to take it?

Try not taking it so defensively. If you cant see that he's clearly the most hyped player on the Tour, then it's not me with the issue here. It's not necessary, dudes accomplishments speak for themselves. He doesnt need every Jim Nantz fellating him after every shot.