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Frankie
04-11-2005, 02:27 PM
I am setting up a small fish pond (about 30 gallon) by the front entrance of the house. Because of where it is, I will need to have it operate all year long. Meaning I need to heat it during the cold Iowa winter. Is this a good idea? How efficient/inefficient are pond heaters? Are they expensive to run? Which ones do you suggest?

Radar Chief
04-11-2005, 02:32 PM
Canít you add salt to the water and not have to worry Ďbout a heater?

Frankie
04-11-2005, 02:36 PM
Canít you add salt to the water and not have to worry Ďbout a heater?

I don't know. Can I?

Remember, I'm looking to have the fish survive in there.

tyton75
04-11-2005, 02:40 PM
man.. at first glance.. that would be tough.. unless you got Koi... you could let it freeze and they would go to the bottom and kinda hibernate until the thaw.. so you wouldn't need a heater for them either

redbrian
04-11-2005, 02:42 PM
The ideal is to dig it deep enough so that the bottom 2' or so does not freeze.

Then just put in a surface heater so that the top does not freeze solid.

penguinz
04-11-2005, 02:44 PM
If you are going to keep fish in it year round you need to make sure it is deep enough the it does not freeze all the way through. Your local specialist should be able to help with this. You also need to make sure you install it so that there is no run off into it when it rains. Otherwise pesticides, fertilizers, and other poisins will wash into it and kill the fish.

Radar Chief
04-11-2005, 02:48 PM
I don't know. Can I?

Remember, I'm looking to have the fish survive in there.

:LOL: A little salt is good foríem. Iíve got a friend here in SEK with a small fishpond and thatís all he does, but Kansas has had some pretty weak winters lately. I donít know if itíd work as well north of here where itíll actually freeze more than once or twice.

Frankie
04-11-2005, 02:53 PM
I guess your idea of a "small" fish pond and mine are very different! I didn't want to mislead you. This thing is barely 2 feet deep. Kidney-shaped and about 5 ft long. I would think the whole thing can freeze if not heated.

PastorMikH
04-11-2005, 02:54 PM
Canít you add salt to the water and not have to worry Ďbout a heater?


Actually, a 50/50 mix of water and antifreeze would work better.:)

C-Mac
04-11-2005, 02:55 PM
I don't know. Can I?

Remember, I'm looking to have the fish survive in there.

Oooh but they will taste a lot better!

Frankie
04-11-2005, 02:56 PM
Actually, a 50/50 mix of water and antifreeze would work better.:)
Of Course!

PastorMikH
04-11-2005, 02:58 PM
On a serious note, I keep a water heater in my dog water throughout the winter. Don't really think it costs all that much to run. It keeps the temp of the water from getting below 40 degees. The water is in a washtub which holds about 10-15 gallons of water. You should be able to pick them up at any farm goods store. Mine costs about $25 you can probably get a floating stock tank heater for not much more that will keep a lot more water from freezing.


Only question is will the fish live in that cold of water? I would think they would be fine but I'm not a Koi expert and won't make that call myself.

C-Mac
04-11-2005, 03:01 PM
On a serious note, I keep a water heater in my dog water throughout the winter. Don't really think it costs all that much to run. It keeps the temp of the water from getting below 40 degees. The water is in a washtub which holds about 10-15 gallons of water. You should be able to pick them up at any farm goods store. Mine costs about $25 you can probably get a floating stock tank heater for not much more that will keep a lot more water from freezing.


Only question is will the fish live in that cold of water? I would think they would be fine but I'm not a Koi expert and won't make that call myself.

Goldfish are some of natures toughest fish, having said that, you really dont think heating your dogs water costs that much?

Radar Chief
04-11-2005, 03:04 PM
I guess your idea of a "small" fish pond and mine are very different! I didn't want to mislead you. This thing is barely 2 feet deep. Kidney-shaped and about 5 ft long. I would think the whole thing can freeze if not heated.

That sounds about right. His didnít freeze once this last winter, course it never really got all that cold around here either.

PastorMikH
04-11-2005, 03:05 PM
Goldfish are some of natures toughest fish, having said that, you really dont think heating your dogs water costs that much?



:shrug:

Not that I notice. Probably 5-10 bucks a month more. Which I will gladly pay to not have to go out twice a day and mess with an iced over bucket. And like I said, the thing holds it at 40 degrees. When the temp is above 40 it doesn't come on. BTW, the cost was when I was in Kansas. The winter here was so mild last year that the thing hardly ever came on.

Iowanian
04-11-2005, 03:07 PM
I love it when people build those goldfish ponds.........Its easy to go dip some bait out when I go to the river. Franky....get some of those Coy with white on them.....Flatheads seem to like them better.

Dr. Facebook Fever
04-11-2005, 03:08 PM
Pond heaters are worthless. If you dig it at least 2 1/2 to 3 feet dep in one spot the fish will go to the bottom and hibernate for the winter. You can also put any live plants that you have in the bottom and they will be fine.

We tried a heater the first winter with our pond and it literally froze into the pond. The fish will be fine as long as they can get deep enough and have some cover.

PastorMikH
04-11-2005, 03:08 PM
I love it when people build those goldfish ponds.........Its easy to go dip some bait out when I go to the river. Franky....get some of those Coy with white on them.....Flatheads seem to like them better.



ROFL

Dr. Facebook Fever
04-11-2005, 03:09 PM
I don't know. Can I?

Remember, I'm looking to have the fish survive in there.
NO....don't put salt in a fresh water ponds.

C-Mac
04-11-2005, 04:18 PM
:shrug:

Not that I notice. Probably 5-10 bucks a month more. Which I will gladly pay to not have to go out twice a day and mess with an iced over bucket. And like I said, the thing holds it at 40 degrees. When the temp is above 40 it doesn't come on. BTW, the cost was when I was in Kansas. The winter here was so mild last year that the thing hardly ever came on.

10-4 :thumb:

Bwana
04-11-2005, 05:04 PM
Stock it with Rainbows, I'll be by. :)