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ChiefsCountry
04-11-2005, 02:35 PM
With the draft coming up here is my mock draft for the Chiefs. Enjoy.

1. Derrick Johnson LB Texas
2. Traded to Tennessee for Derrick Johnson
3. Dustin Colquitt P Tennessee
4. Traded to Miami for Patrick Surtain
5. Courtney Roby WR Indiana
5. Traded to Miami for Patrick Surtain
5. Traded to Tennessee for Carlos Hall
6. Stanley Wilson CB Stanford
6. Darren Sproles RB Kansas State
7. Jared Newberry LB Stanford
7. Arrion Dixon DT Arkansas

CosmicPal
04-11-2005, 02:40 PM
I like it, but I don't like it.

A QB can wait until the later rounds or even next year. Too many needs on the D side of the ball this year. I like the idea of adding Roby and Sproles in those rounds. Nice picks there. But, I'm still not sold on DJ being worth all the accolades he's been getting. We'll see....

Mr. Laz
04-11-2005, 02:52 PM
yea... i'd go for it

except i would rather pass on Horton and grab someone else

maybe WR fred gibson or another linebacker/cornerback

Big Chief Homer
04-11-2005, 02:54 PM
IMO a QB can wait until next year and we have no need for sproles with LJ,Priest,Holcome and Jonathan Smith over in NFL europe.Smith is the same size as sproles and has a style similar.He's been running pretty well over in Europe.Id rather keep him and draft for the Defense.

jcroft
04-11-2005, 02:56 PM
I certainly wouldn't complain about this draft one bit. I think we can use a bit more defense (not sure we need a QB or RB, although I'd like Sproles' value there). But, if this happened, I'd be quite pleased, I think.

Pants
04-11-2005, 02:57 PM
I don't want the fumbling midget on the Chiefs. That's the donk's thing.

eazyb81
04-11-2005, 03:04 PM
we can find a QB in the later rounds. I think we need a DT and an Olineman in the mid rounds, and we can probably find a WR in the 7th round. Is your assumption based on us trading a 4th and 5th for Surtain? That is not going to happen.

CoMoChief
04-11-2005, 03:06 PM
Why would we need Sproles? Vermiel would only use him as a SP return man and were already stacked in that as well with Dante Hall and Samie Parker.

LiL stumppy
04-11-2005, 03:14 PM
If thats true,we need to pick up a CB in the third round and a QB later on.

htismaqe
04-11-2005, 03:15 PM
Sorry, but I hate it.

Orton sucks.

Roby won't be there in the 5th, IMO. If you're going to target a WR, it should be with the 3rd-round pick you spent on Orton.

ChiefsCountry
04-11-2005, 03:39 PM
Sorry, but I hate it.

Orton sucks.

Roby won't be there in the 5th, IMO. If you're going to target a WR, it should be with the 3rd-round pick you spent on Orton.

Whats wrong with Orton? I think he is a fine QB.

eazyb81
04-11-2005, 03:40 PM
Whats wrong with Orton? I think he is a fine QB.

I think we could get a developmental QB in later rounds that would be just as good. Andrew Walter, Dan Orlovsky, Derek Anderson, or Gino Giudugli would be just as good and we could get them later on.

KChiefs1
04-11-2005, 04:00 PM
Here's an interesting Mock Draft to peruse....

http://www.gbnreport.com/2005projection.htm (Great Blue North)


First round 1 San Francisco *Aaron Rodgers
QB
California
49ers would dearly love to trade down, however, aren't likely to find any takers.. Rodgers isn't necessarily the top prosepct on the board, but gives SF the best chance of finding a starter from day one at the position

2 Miami Ronnie Brown
RB
Auburn
Like the 49ers, the Dolphins want to trade down, but also aren't likely to find a dance partner...Brown is the anti-Ricky; a tough runner who will show up; he's also a terrific receiver

3 Minnesota (from Cleveland) Braylon Edwards
WR
Michigan
Vikes need to find a replacement for the departed Randy Moss, but could actually miss out on the big three WRs if they stay at #7... Browns will get shot at same players at #3 or 7

4 Tampa Bay (from Chicago) *Mike Williams
WR
Southern California
Bears and Bucs do the hokey pokey that ensures both teams get the guy they want...Bucs' Jon Gruden has made no secret about how much he likes SC's Williams a 'freakish playmaker'

5 Chicago (from Tampa Bay) Cedric Benson
RB
Texas
Benson isn't a burner and brings some character issues top the table; however, he's the type of back you can give the ball to 25-30 times a game and forget it

6 San Diego (from Tennessee) *Troy Williamson
WR
South Carolina
Chargers need a big-play WR to complete picture in team revival and won't get one of the top three down at #12...4.3 40 time at combine got the other SC's Williamson rocketing up value board's around the NFL

7 Cleveland (from Oakland thru Minnesota) *Shawn Merriman
LB
Maryland
QB Alex Smith could also factor in for Browns at #3 or #7, but Merriman gives defensive guru Romeo Crennel disruptive edge rusher to rebuild defense around

8 Arizona *Alex Smith
QB
Utah
Kurt Warner is a decent stop-gap measure, but surely Dennis Green won't pass on his good fortune if a potential franchise type QB like Smith falls in lap; RB Carnell Williams or one of the CBs will be tempting tough

9 Washington *Adam Jones
CB
West Virginia
Jones will be perfect tonic for Redskins to repair secondary which has lost outstanding cover corners Champ Bailey and Fred Smoot this past couple of years

10 Detroit Derrick Johnson
LB
Texas
Lions are sitting pretty at #10 and should get a look at a number of quality prospects who can come in and help risimg franchise... OT Alex Barron, TE Heath Miller or one of the top remaining CBs would also be in the mix,... Johnson will combine with Boss Bailey and Teddy Lehman to give Lions one of most athletic LB trios in NFL

11 Kansas City (from Dallas) Antel Rolle
CB
Miami
Kansas City needs help big-time at corner and hope to acquire either Patrick Surtain in trade with Dolphins or by signing injured vet Ty Law; for now, though, a move up to get Rolle, a tough, physical cover corner might be good Plan B

12 Tennessee (from NY Giants thru San Diego) Alex Barron
OT
Florida State
Titans need replacement for venearble Brad Hopkins whose been around since high tops; move down makes sense because Barron would be a reach at #6; CB Rogers good fall back if Barron goes to Detroit or Dallas

13 Houston Carnell Williams
RB
Auburn
Texans looking at CB and pass rush help, but real feature back like Williams may be just too hard to pass up.

14 Carolina Matt Jones
WR
Arkansas
Somebody is going to jump on Jones early; why not the Panthers who lost Mushin Muhmmad to free agency

15 Dallas (from Kansas City) Demarcus Ware
OLB
Troy State
New Parcells' 3-4 defense needs explosive edge rusher in Lawrence Taylor mold to really work; Ware is raw but has super quick first step

16 New Orleans Carlos Rogers
CB
Auburn
Defense, defense, defense is key in Saints' draft plans; DT Travis Johnson would be fcator here too

17 Cincinnati Erasmus James
DE
Wisconsin
Improved pass rush is Bengals main goal at 2005 draft and Badgers' James is one of the best despite lack of pure footspeed

18 Minnesota David Pollack
DE
Georgia
Pollack isn't necessarily everyone's cup of tea, but he'll be a nice fit on a team where DT firm of Williams and Williams will occupy so much attention

19 Philadelphi (from St. Louis) Luis Castillo
DT
Northwestern
Eagles always move up so why not this year when they have a passel of extra picks; jump in ahead of divison rival Cowboys to take one of draft's rising stars

20 Dallas (from Buffalo) Shaun Cody
DE
Southern California
DT/DE tweener will be nice fit as 3-4 DE

21 Jacksonville *Justin Miller
CB
Clemson
Speedy Miller, who also returns kicks, addresses team's biggest need for solid cover corner; OU WR Mark Clayotn could also be in mix

22 Baltimore Travis Johnson
DT
Florida State
Bit of baggage drops rugged DT down a couple of spots; nice personal protector for Ray Lewis in new 4-3 defense

23 Cleveland (from Seattle) Charlie Frye
QB
Akron Browns use some of the profit from earlier Vikings' deal to jump ahead of Packers to get QB of the future; the fact that Frye is a local kid should also help to keep the dawg pound in check for a while
24 Indianapolis (from Green Bay) Marcus Spears
DE
LSU
Colts looking for complimentary DE with size to take some of the heat off Dwight Freeney

25 Denver *Fabian Washington
CB
Nebraska
DL help (hopefully) came from Cleveland; Huskers supply speed at corner

26 New York Jets Mark Clayton
WR
Oklahoma
Clayton should go much higher, but today he didn't; nice target for QB Chad Pennington who can make things happen after he catches the ball

27 Atlanta Khalif Barnes
OT
Washington
A little personal protection for company VIP Vick

28 San Diego *Justin Tuck
DE
Notre Dame
Maybe more of a 4-3 type DE, but Tuck brings pass rush potential Charger defense desperately needs

29 Green Bay (from Indianapolis) Matt Roth
DE Iowa
With Charlie Frye off the board, Packers look to add a piece to D puzzle to give Brett one more run at a title

30 Pittsburgh *Heath Miller
TE
Virginia Another player who probably will go much higher but just didn't; nice underneath target for young QB Ben Roethlisberger

31 St. Louis (from Philadelphia) Dan Cody
DE
Okalhoma
Has some questions, but should make decent complimentary pass rush to support Leonard Little

32 New England Reggie Brown
WR
Georgia
Patriot type WR; not flashy, but quick smart and steady



Summary of projected trades:
(1) Minnesota sends Cleveland the 7th pick overall, originally acquired from Oakland, plus 2nd, 4th and 6th round picks for the 3rd pick
(2) Tampa Bay gives Chicago a #3 pick in 2006 to flip 4th and 5th picks
(3) San Diego gives Tennessee the 12th pick overall, plus 2nd and 4th round picks in 2005 and a #3 in 2006 for the 6th pick
(4) Kansas City gives Dallas the 15th pick in 2005 plus a 4th round pick and a #2 pick in 2006 for the 11th pick
(5) Philadelphia gives St. Louis the 31st pick, plus 2nd, 4th and 6th roundes for the 19th pick
(6) Cleveland gives Seattle the 34th pick in 2004 plus the second acquired from Minnesota for the 23rd pick
(7) indianapolis gives Green Bay the 29th pick plus a second rounder for the 24th pick


Second round 33 San Francisco Roddy White
WR
Alabama-Birmingham

34 Seattle (from Cleveland) *Channing Crowder
LB
Florida

35 Philadelphia (from Miami) *Odell Thurman RB Georgia

36 Tampa Bay *Ciatrick Fason
RB Florida

37 Tennessee Marlin Jackson
CB
Michigan

38 Oakland Corey Webster
CB
LSU
39 Chicago Jammal Brown
OT
Oklahoma
40 New Orleans (from Washington) Atiyyah Ellison
DT
Missouri

41 Detroit Alex Smith TE
Stanford
42 Dallas Marcus Johnson
OG
Mississippi

43 New York Giants *Thomas Davis
FS
Georgia

44 Arizona Eric Green
CB
Virginia Tech
45 Carolina David Baas OG
Michigan

46 Kansas City Kevin Burnett
LB
Tennessee

47 Houston Daryl Blackstock
LB
Virginia
48 Cincinnati Barrett Ruud
LB
Nebraska

49 Seattle (from Minnesota thru Cleveland) Chris Canty
DE
Virginia

50 St. Louis Elton Brown
OG
Virginia

51 Green Bay (from New Orleans) *Brodney Pool
Fs
Oklahoma

52 Jacksonville *Jovan Haye
DE
Vanderbilt

53 Baltimore *Chris Spencer
C
Mississippi

54 Seattle Mike Patterson
DT
Southern California

55 Buffalo Anttaj Hawthorne
DT
Wisconsin

56 Denver Jonathan Babineaux
DT
Iowa

57 New York Jets *Brandon Browner
CB
Oregon State

58 Green Bay Bryant McFadden
CB
Florida State

59 Atlanta *C. J. Moseley
DT
Missouri
60 Green Bay (from Indianapolis) Adam Seward
LB
UNLV

61 Tennessee (from San Diego) *Chris Henry
WR
West Virginia

62 Pittsburgh Chris Kemoeatu
OG Utah

63 St. Louis (from Philadelphia) Stanley Wilson
CB Stanford
64 New England Alfred Fincher
LB
UConn



Third round 65 San Francisco *Josh Bullocks
FS
Nebraska
66 St. Louis (from Miami) Donte Nicholson
SS
Oklahoma
67 Cleveland Sione Pouha
DT
Utah
68 Tennessee *Eric Shelton
RB Louisville
69 Oakland *Ernest Shazor SS
Michigan

70 Miami (from Chicago) Logan Mankins
OT Fresno State
71 Tampa Bay Jason Campbell
QB
Auburn

72 Detroit Adam Terry
OT
Syracuse

73 Houston (from Dallas) Stanford Routt CB Houston
74 New York Giants Darrent Williams
CB
Oklahoma State

75 Arizona Kay-Jay Harris
RB
West Virginia

76 Washington Vincent Jackson
WR
Northern Colorado

77 Philadelphia (from Kansas City) Evan Mathis
OG
Alabama

78 Houston Chris Colmer
OT
North Carolina State

79 Carolina J.J. Arrington
RB
California

80 Minnesota Mike Nugent
PK
Ohio State

81 St. Louis Adrian McPherson
QB
Florida State

82 New Orleans *Rian Wallace
LB
Temple

83 Cincinnati Anthony Bryant
DT
Alabama

84 Baltimore Mark Bradley
WR
Oklahoma

85 Seattle *Vernand Morency
RB
Oklahoma State

86 Buffalo Claude Terrell
OG
New Mexico

87 Jacksonville Michael Munoz
OT
Tennessee
88 New York Jets Lorenzo Alexander
DT
California
89 Green Bay Adam Snyder
OG
Oregon


Denver



90 Atlanta Jerome Mathis
WR Hampton
91 Tampa Bay (from San Diego) Ronald Bartell
CB
Howard

92 Indianapolis Kirk Morrison
LB
San Diego State

93 Pittsburgh Cro Thorpe
WR
Florida State

94 Philadelphia *Marion Barber
RB
Minnesota

95 Arizona (from New England) Eric Moore
DE
Florida State

96(c)
Tennessee
Andrew Walter
QB
Arizona State

97(c)
Denver
Dan Buenning
OG
Wisconsin

98(c)
Seattle
Jordan Beck
LB
Cal-Poly

99(c)
Kansas City
Kyle Orton QB Purdue

100(c)
New England
Ray Willis
OT
Florida State

101(c)
Denver
Dustin Colquitt
P
Tennessee

ChiefsCountry
04-11-2005, 04:11 PM
Crap guys change Orton to Dustin Colquitt, the punter out of Tennessee. I just found my notes and I had Colquitt in there instead of Orton but my brain has been on him.

Spicy McHaggis
04-11-2005, 05:22 PM
Here's an interesting Mock Draft to peruse....

Not a big fan. Take a specialist in the first who will be an OLB and then another OLB in the second who is similar to Key Fox. And then Orton in the third? Eh.

ChiefsCountry
04-11-2005, 05:24 PM
Not a big fan. Take a specialist in the first who will be an OLB and then another OLB in the second who is similar to Key Fox. And then Orton in the third? Eh.

Huh, we get Antrel Rolle in that draft. Its a trade up with Dallas.

Spicy McHaggis
04-11-2005, 05:26 PM
Huh, we get Antrel Rolle in that draft. Its a trade up with Dallas.

Ah I just skimmed to 15 without looking at the team. I would love Rolle as our pick.

ChiefsCountry
04-11-2005, 05:27 PM
But dont be shocked if we get Ware from Troy. That is a Carl pick waiting to happen.

whoman69
04-11-2005, 05:31 PM
But dont be shocked if we get Ware from Troy. That is a Carl pick waiting to happen.
Or Pollack, a true tweener.

Can't agree with spending a 3rd round pick on a punter. Almost all punters come in FA.

Big Chief Homer
04-11-2005, 05:41 PM
I cant see Dv passing on LB Ruud if hes still there with our second.Hes already pronounced his love for him.

milkman
04-11-2005, 06:06 PM
I don't like either draft in this thread.

Spicy McHaggis
04-11-2005, 06:08 PM
I cant see Dv passing on LB Ruud if hes still there with our second.Hes already pronounced his love for him.

Ruud would be a great 2nd rounder for us. Whoa, I agree with DV on a personel decision.

milkman
04-11-2005, 06:12 PM
Ruud would be a great 2nd rounder for us. Whoa, I agree with DV on a personel decision.

Are you old and senile, too? :p

ChiefsCountry
04-11-2005, 06:27 PM
Can't agree with spending a 3rd round pick on a punter. Almost all punters come in FA.

Colquitt is one of those punters that will be a stud for years. It would be a solid pick. Him and Johnson would be two major impacts for the team this year and for years to come.

KChiefs1
04-11-2005, 09:47 PM
(4) Kansas City gives Dallas the 15th pick in 2005 plus a 4th round pick and a #2 pick in 2006 for the 11th pick
Seems like a lot to give up just to get Rolle? I think Rogers will actually turn out to be the better CB & the Chiefs wouldn't need to move up to get him.

If they make this trade to move up I personally hope it's for Derrick Johnson not Rolle. :thumb:

melbar
04-11-2005, 11:02 PM
Crap guys change Orton to Dustin Colquitt, the punter out of Tennessee. I just found my notes and I had Colquitt in there instead of Orton but my brain has been on him.
OK I thought I was going crazy for a minute there. I was thinking what the Hell is everyone talking about , theres no QB listed on this draft? ROFL

melbar
04-11-2005, 11:08 PM
I don't like either draft in this thread.
What?!
What exactly is wrong with either one? most picks past the 3rd are going to be projects/depth choices, so please explain what would be wrong with either of these draft scenarios if we were lucky enough to have one turn out this way?

yoswif
04-12-2005, 07:00 AM
New England's success is perpetuated by having a lot of second day picks to use on projects and situational players. I don't like any mock that has the Chiefs giving up a second rounder to trade up.

Using the Great Blue North projection, I'd be happy with Rogers or Ware at 15. I'd follow up Rogers with DE Haye, Vandy. I'd follow up Ware with CB McFadden, FSU. If LB Boley, S Miss, is still available in the third, I'd take him over any offensive player or specialist.

Gaz
04-12-2005, 07:06 AM
Why would you trade up to get Rolle when Rogers is on the board at #16?

That would be criminally irresponsible.

xoxo~
Gaz
Glad this fellow is not in charge.

Cochise
04-12-2005, 07:10 AM
I don't want the fumbling midget on the Chiefs. That's the donk's thing.

Amen. We have a kick returner already, which is at most what he would be in the NFL

htismaqe
04-12-2005, 07:49 AM
Whats wrong with Orton? I think he is a fine QB.

I watched him play at SE Polk HS and at Purdue. He's not an NFL QB.

milkman
04-12-2005, 06:59 PM
What?!
What exactly is wrong with either one? most picks past the 3rd are going to be projects/depth choices, so please explain what would be wrong with either of these draft scenarios if we were lucky enough to have one turn out this way?

Primarily I don't like the idea of trading up at all.

I really don't like the idea of trading conditional future picks.

We did it for Wellbourne, and it's biting us in the ass now.

royr17
04-12-2005, 11:06 PM
The new updated mock draft on NFL Countdown has the chiefs takin OLB/DE DeMarcus Ware at 15 and OLB Daryl Blackstock in the 2nd round too .......

Tribal Warfare
04-12-2005, 11:15 PM
The new updated mock draft on NFL Countdown has the chiefs takin OLB/DE DeMarcus Ware at 15 and OLB Daryl Blackstock in the 2nd round too .......

I definately would be pissed if that happened especially if DJ was in the #9to#11 range

ChiefsCountry
04-12-2005, 11:17 PM
I definately would be pissed if that happened especially if DJ was in the #9to#11 range

Me too.

royr17
04-12-2005, 11:24 PM
I'd love to have both of them guys Ware and Blackstock, I mean can you imagine of Linebacking core of Blackstock, Bell, and Ware, that would be so devastating.

As far as Derrick Johnson goes, he is just a tackler, he aint a pass rusher like any of these guys, thats what we need is another Outside Pass Rusher.

We got Jared Allen already, to have Ware and Blackstock would just be amazing.

Spicy McHaggis
04-12-2005, 11:33 PM
As far as Derrick Johnson goes, he is just a tackler, he aint a pass rusher like any of these guys, thats what we need is another Outside Pass Rusher.

Johnson is a more complete player who blitzes and gets in the backfield well. He may not excel as much at pash-rushing as Ware or Blackstock but he can cover too as well as play sideline to sideline.

Tribal Warfare
04-12-2005, 11:39 PM
Johnson is a more complete player who blitzes and gets in the backfield well. He may not excel as much at pash-rushing as Ware or Blackstock but he can cover too as well as play sideline to sideline.

I've said this before all these websites are comparing him to Lavar Arrington which is incorrect he plays more like the Steelers' Greats Jack Ham and Jack Lambert

ChiefsCountry
04-13-2005, 12:18 AM
Derrick Johnson is going to be a beast. Best pure linebacker in the draft for some time.

KChiefs1
04-13-2005, 07:23 AM
Derrick Johnson is going to be a beast. Best pure linebacker in the draft for some time.

You realize to get him the Chiefs would have to give up their 15th & 46th picks to move up into the range where he might be available right? That would mean losing out on getting another top quality player in hopes that DJ doesn't turn out to be a bust. I hate basing your draft on just one player. It's a pretty risky venture....that said I'd love to see DJ in red & gold this year! :thumb:

htismaqe
04-13-2005, 07:35 AM
I'd love to have both of them guys Ware and Blackstock, I mean can you imagine of Linebacking core of Blackstock, Bell, and Ware, that would be so devastating.

As far as Derrick Johnson goes, he is just a tackler, he aint a pass rusher like any of these guys, thats what we need is another Outside Pass Rusher.

We got Jared Allen already, to have Ware and Blackstock would just be amazing.

NO WE DON'T.

We need more tweeners and specialists like we need holes in the head.

We need a PLAYER, a REAL LB. Somebody that can rush the passer AND line up and cover a TE.

ChiefsCountry
04-13-2005, 09:01 AM
You realize to get him the Chiefs would have to give up their 15th & 46th picks to move up into the range where he might be available right? That would mean losing out on getting another top quality player in hopes that DJ doesn't turn out to be a bust. I hate basing your draft on just one player. It's a pretty risky venture....that said I'd love to see DJ in red & gold this year! :thumb:

I would rather take a risk on a more of a sure thing than two picks that might not be. DJ is one of those special players and it would be a good risk in my opinion.

Saulbadguy
04-13-2005, 09:07 AM
IMO..anything that gets us Derrick Johnson is good in my eyes.

royr17
04-13-2005, 11:24 PM
There is another LB in the draft i wouldnt mind havin and his name is KEVIN BURNETT from Tennessee.

I HATE TENNESSEE NOW !!!!!!!

Gravedigger
04-13-2005, 11:32 PM
Darren Sproles won't be drafted by us he will get taken earlier then what you say and I don't think we'll give away a 2 4 and 5 for surtain I think at the most well give them 2 this year and possibly 1 next year. Also if Johnson does well this year not only will he cost us this year to sign but he might ask for an extension like T.O did or be a selfish player down the road. Also I don't think that we will take a punter in the third probably a wide reciever or a defensive player of some type.

Spicy McHaggis
04-13-2005, 11:42 PM
There is another LB in the draft i wouldnt mind havin and his name is KEVIN BURNETT from Tennessee.

We have Burnett. His name is Keyaron Fox.

melbar
04-13-2005, 11:45 PM
Primarily I don't like the idea of trading up at all.

I really don't like the idea of trading conditional future picks.

We did it for Wellbourne, and it's biting us in the ass now.
Trading for a guard who we're going to turn into a tackle is different than trading for a young player out of the draft who some consider to be the best player in the draft regardless of position.

melbar
04-13-2005, 11:48 PM
Johnson is a more complete player who blitzes and gets in the backfield well. He may not excel as much at pash-rushing as Ware or Blackstock but he can cover too as well as play sideline to sideline.
ditto that. I Keep reading that he covers RECIEVERS as well as most safties and some CB's.

Gravedigger
04-13-2005, 11:50 PM
Why can't the draft just be here? I'm tired of watching assumption mocks on the draft and it's probable gonna be completely different. It was nice talking about it but im so excited I want to see what the chiefs do I'm actually driving two hours back to olathe just to watch it with my dad!

htismaqe
04-14-2005, 04:59 AM
We have Burnett. His name is Keyaron Fox.

I agree.

I've come to the conclusion that we need to do one of the 3 things at WSLB:

1) Give in and start Fox.

2) Sign Anthony Simmons.

3) Trade up and get Derrick Johnson.

milkman
04-14-2005, 05:51 PM
Trading for a guard who we're going to turn into a tackle is different than trading for a young player out of the draft who some consider to be the best player in the draft regardless of position.

When I say I don't like the idea of trading future picks, it's referencing the idea being discussed of sending this year's fourth, and a conditional '06 pick for Surtain.

But regardless of who the trade might involve, the fact is that if we hadn't traded a conditional pick for Wellbourne, that turned into this years 3rd, we would have that pick to trade strait up for Surtain.

I don't want to be put in a position next year similiar to the one we are in now.

htismaqe
04-15-2005, 05:23 AM
I agree.

I've come to the conclusion that we need to do one of the 3 things at WSLB:

1) Give in and start Fox.

2) Sign Anthony Simmons.

3) Trade up and get Derrick Johnson.

I'm going to add a #4 after listening to all of the Ourlads, PFW, and Scouts Inc. guys yesterday:

4) Draft Thomas Davis. It sounds like he may be the 2nd-coming of Derrick Brooks.