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Iowanian
04-20-2005, 03:04 PM
I never said "all" for the record...........but now that you put it that way...I've heard quite a few indicate that they even "drive better".

Driving 4mph down the sidewalk, isn't my definition of better.

Iowanian
04-20-2005, 03:10 PM
I'm about done with this thread.......just reading it is making me want to eat a bowl of capt crunch with ringdings cut up in it, instead of bananas.

BIG_DADDY
04-20-2005, 03:10 PM
Driving? Read up about 10 posts. More than one poster have indicated that they DO drive on Pot, and think they drive Fine.

Just to be quite clear I don't smoke the stuff. I used to and ride dirt bikes all the time as a kid though. I know what they producing these days is a lot stronger but I would still take me behind the wheel on whole bag of the shit before I would I would let some of the kamikaze's we have out here drive.


I don't really Care.........Smoke a truck full of bales. Give it to my kid and I'll show people your medula oblongota. Fair enough?

You already know your kids going to smoke it.

Iowanian
04-20-2005, 03:12 PM
I'm glad you didn't hurt yourself, or someone else riding on the ganja. thats a bad idea.

BIG_DADDY
04-20-2005, 03:13 PM
I'm about done with this thread........

No way, what fun would this thread have been without the Legislation King in it? :)

Iowanian
04-20-2005, 03:15 PM
It would have probably just been you, davi.duh, skip and dp4me argueing over who got to eat the last fruit rollup.

BIG_DADDY
04-20-2005, 03:15 PM
I'm glad you didn't hurt yourself, or someone else riding on the ganja. thats a bad idea.

Ahh the good old days. Get home from school at 2:30 and ride till dinner.

ENDelt260
04-20-2005, 03:17 PM
Driving 4mph down the sidewalk, isn't my definition of better.

You're just closed-minded.

BIG_DADDY
04-20-2005, 03:17 PM
You're just closed-minded.
ROFL

Iowanian
04-20-2005, 03:18 PM
no.....I'm just a bad pedestrian.

ENDelt260
04-20-2005, 03:20 PM
no.....I'm just a bad pedestrian.
If you were a lazy pedestrian you could just hop on the hood and have a free ride.

Stoners doing community service. See... we're not all bad.

Calcountry
04-20-2005, 03:43 PM
Damn Northern Californians always screwing with a good joke.WTF do I know, two other planeteers laughed at it. :p

Skip Towne
04-20-2005, 03:43 PM
no.....I'm just a bad pedestrian.
Hey, Jethro, I thought you were leaving.

Calcountry
04-20-2005, 03:44 PM
We all know why your husband can't get to the planet.....They did a show on CSI about this chit.

chiefs4me
04-20-2005, 03:48 PM
I'll just blame it on cheif4me.

Although, without her, I'm sure this thread would've died ...

just ask her.

MM
~~:whackit:



Good god....can't you even spell your own teams name right?:rolleyes:

And please get a new joke...this one is old.......:harumph:


once more like zackaroo says.........CHIEFS4ME...did ya get that.

Calcountry
04-20-2005, 03:53 PM
You don't have to be a hippy to smoke marijuana. And not every pot smoker is a hippy. Vast majority are not hippies.

That would be like me saying every person who drinks alcohol is a drunk.Don't believe him, they are, they are just too stoned to realize it.

chiefs4me
04-20-2005, 03:53 PM
It would have probably just been you, davi.duh, skip and dp4me argueing over who got to eat the last fruit rollup.




ROFL........you sure do a lot of eating junk food for not being stoned. Who said that the ones bitching the most about it are the ones really doing it.

Saggysack
04-20-2005, 04:57 PM
ROFL........you sure do a lot of eating junk food for not being stoned. Who said that the ones bitching the most about it are the ones really doing it.

:shrug:
I thought it was those that don't want it legal are the ones selling and making a profit from it.

BIG_DADDY
04-20-2005, 06:26 PM
:shrug:
I thought it was those that don't want it legal are the ones selling and making a profit from it.

That tricky Iowanian.

go bowe
04-20-2005, 09:51 PM
I never said "all" for the record...........but now that you put it that way...I've heard quite a few indicate that they even "drive better".

Driving 4mph down the sidewalk, isn't my definition of better.hey...

i don't drive that fast...

*drool* *drool* :bong: :D :D :D

Loki
04-20-2005, 10:02 PM
You rope burners seem pretty uptight, for being soooooooo relaxed and calm maaaaaaaaaaan.

you mean we're smoking roooooope maaaaaan?

Mark M
04-21-2005, 08:25 AM
Good god....can't you even spell your own teams name right?:rolleyes:

OH MY GAWD!!! I mispeled a werd!!! Yoou pwn mei!

And please get a new joke...this one is old.......:harumph:
Actually, it's still pretty funny to several people. And besides, you're the ignorant slut who kept posting it in thread after thread after thread. Don't get pissed at me for your inability to get over yourself.

once more like zackaroo says.........CHIEFS4ME...did ya get that.

I think "ignorant slut" or "stupid cvnt" or "annoying bitch" are all better ...

not to mention a lot more accurate.

MM
~~:spank:

chiefs4me
04-21-2005, 12:57 PM
OH MY GAWD!!! I mispeled a werd!!! Yoou pwn mei!


Actually, it's still pretty funny to several people. And besides, you're the ignorant slut who kept posting it in thread after thread after thread. Don't get pissed at me for your inability to get over yourself.



I think "ignorant slut" or "stupid cvnt" or "annoying bitch" are all better ...

not to mention a lot more accurate.

MM
~~:spank:




:shake:....I feel sorry for you...having to call someone slut, **** and bitch to get your point across...my prayers to your family.:)


And by the way...what do I keep posting in thread after thread...you are the one who can't let me go.:harumph:

|Zach|
04-21-2005, 01:00 PM
:shake:....I feel sorry for you...having to call someone slut, **** and bitch to get your point across...my prayers to your family.:)


And by the way...what do I keep posting in thread after thread...you are the one who can't let me go.:harumph:
Prayers to his family for being so awesome...I have met him and his fam. I can only hope I have a family that cool and a little kid that cute when I get older.

This has nothing to do with his post being 100% accurate. :)

ENDelt260
04-21-2005, 01:11 PM
having to call someone slut, **** and bitch to get your point across

But, if the point is that you're a slut, cvnt, and a bitch...

|Zach|
04-21-2005, 01:12 PM
But, if the point is that you're a slut, cvnt, and a bitch...
ROFL

chiefs4me
04-21-2005, 01:15 PM
But, if the point is that you're a slut, cvnt, and a bitch...




You never cease to amaze me...:rolleyes:

Mark M
04-21-2005, 01:42 PM
But, if the point is that you're a slut, cvnt, and a bitch...

Glad someone got the point. Next time, maybe I'll do a flow chart.

Prayers to his family for being so awesome...I have met him and his fam. I can only hope I have a family that cool and a little kid that cute when I get older.

Your check is in the mail.

MM
~~:D

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2005, 02:32 PM
I found the costs in this article very interesting:

Allen St. Pierre
Executive Director NORML/NORML Foundation

Federal marijuana laws that rely primarily on criminal penalties and law enforcement are an ineffective policy tool to control the use and sale of marijuana.

-Marijuana Prohibition Does Not Produce Stated Public Goals- Public policies are measured by their ability to produce intended results. The stated goal of criminal marijuana prohibition is to deter marijuana use and promote public health. Therefore, the success or failure of U.S. marijuana policy must be evaluated by its performance at accomplishing these goals when measured against specific drug use and public health indicators. If current marijuana policy is to be judged as an effective public policy, then increasing the arrest rate for marijuana should produce an intended reduction in several of these key indicators, most importantly, the use and availability of marijuana among the population.

Despite total US marijuana arrests increasing 165% during the 1990s, from 287,850 in 1991 to 755,000 in 2003, this enhanced enforcement has not produced intended results, and in some cases, it has produced opposite, unintended consequences. Upon review of the available data, it is clear that increased arrest rates are not associated with reduced marijuana use, reduced marijuana availability, a reduction in the number of new users, reduced treatment admissions, reduced emergency room mentions, any reduction in marijuana potency, or any increases in the price of marijuana.

-How Much Does Marijuana Prohibition Cost The U.S. Annually?- Increased marijuana enforcement is associated with greater fiscal and social costs. State and local justice costs for marijuana arrests are now estimated to be $7.6 billion, approximately $10,400 per arrest. Of this total, annual police costs are $3.7 billion, judicial/legal costs are $853 million, and correctional costs are $3.1 billion. In both California and New York, state fiscal costs dedicated to criminal marijuana law enforcement annually total over $1 billion for each state.

-The Costs? The Benefits?- The social costs of criminal marijuana enforcement include demographic impacts and their effects on society. Marijuana possession and sales arrest disproportionately impact young males as well as black adults. These disproportionate impacts nurture alienation from the rule of law. Among the demographic groups most adversely impacted, males age 18 are .7% of the population and 3.1% of annual marijuana users, but comprise 8.1% of all marijuana possession arrests. Males aged 24 to 29 are 4% of the population and 9.7% of annual marijuana users, but comprise 13.7% of all possession arrests. Black adults account for 8.8% of the population, 11.9% of annual marijuana users, and 23% of marijuana possession arrests. Overall, 25% of marijuana possession arrests are of people age 18 or younger, and 74% are for people under the age of 30. Marijuana users who are white, over 30 year old, and/or female are disproportionately unaffected by marijuana possession arrests.

-Over One Million Teenagers In America Sell Marijuana- Maybe of greater note and indicative of an unintended consequence in the U.S. governmentıs marijuana policy-making: Over one million teenagers in the U.S. sell marijuana.

-Marijuana Policy Measured By ONDCPıs Own Criteria Is a Failure- Policy analysis is about results. There is now ample data available to review the performance of marijuana policy over the past decades, in particular the years between 1990 and 2000. Based on the data presented in this report, it is evident that present US marijuana policy is failing to achieve its desired results when measured against key drug use and public health indicators, as well as when evaluated by cost/benefit analysis.

Therefore, this report recommends the commencement of a serious national debate over replacing the current prohibition policy of marijuana control with a regulatory policy that provides legal access to marijuana for adults and removes the profit incentive for sale among teenagers.

-By The Numbers: Marijuana Arrests and Use in the United States- Despite nearly seventy years of expensive and rigorous government enforcement of marijuana prohibition there is, until the issuance of this report from the NORML Foundation, scarce amount of publicly available information on the scope and cost of marijuana prohibition.



This report comprehensively demonstrates much of what is not commonly known regarding who uses marijuana in the U.S., who gets arrested for it, at what age citizens are arrested on marijuana charges and how much are the general fiscal costs of maintaining marijuana prohibition. Lastly, how does the U.S. government policy on marijuana measure up against its stated goals and what are some serious-minded policy alternatives which may largely achieve the governmentıs stated goals?

This comprehensive marijuana arrest and use report and analysis includes:

State-by-state marijuana arrest and use data;
County-by-county arrest data;
Comprehensive marijuana sales data and sales arrest data;
Detailed data and graphical information regarding marijuana arrests and use in regards to gender, race and age; information on state marijuana penalties, extensive historical background information examining marijuana policy-making in the United States circa 1972 and supporting citations.
Crimes of Indiscretion: Marijuana Arrests in the United States Author: Jon Gettman, Ph.D Published by The NORML Foundation (2005)