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ct
04-20-2005, 02:09 PM
My choice would be 2 CBs and 1 OLB, and w/out Surtain and no draft slot movement, we must take the best chance available at a starter-ready CB in round 1.

Option 1 - CB,CB,OLB

15 - CB Carlos Rogers
46 - CB Eric Green
99 - OLB Jordan Beck

Option 2 - CB,OLB,CB

15 - CB Carlos Rogers
46 - OLB Kevin Burnett
99 - CB Stanley Wilson

Then follow up with the best available WR prospect in round 4.

The Bad Guy
04-20-2005, 02:13 PM
If we draft a corner in the 2nd and elect not to trade it for Surtain I will go postal.

Brock
04-20-2005, 02:16 PM
I doubt the Chiefs will spend all 3 first day picks on defense.

Coogs
04-20-2005, 02:24 PM
Sign Law.

1st Davis S/OLB
2nd Tuck DE
3rd Beck OLB or Henry WR

jcroft
04-20-2005, 02:27 PM
Sign Law.

1st Davis S/OLB
2nd Tuck DE
3rd Beck OLB or Henry WR

If we sign Law then I DEFINITELY want a CB drafted in round one. Law is too big a question mark -- we can't rely on him. If we pick him up, we need to also do whatever it takes to get Rodgers, Pac-Man, or Rolle.

Mr. Laz
04-20-2005, 02:27 PM
My choice would be 2 CBs and 1 OLB, and w/out Surtain and no draft slot movement, we must take the best chance available at a starter-ready CB in round 1.

Option 1 - CB,CB,OLB

15 - CB Carlos Rogers
46 - CB Eric Green
99 - OLB Jordan Beck

Option 2 - CB,OLB,CB

15 - CB Carlos Rogers
46 - OLB Kevin Burnett
99 - CB Stanley Wilson

Then follow up with the best available WR prospect in round 4.
not bad ... i prefer option 1

CosmicPal
04-20-2005, 02:27 PM
Sign Law.

1st Davis S/OLB
2nd Tuck DE
3rd Beck OLB or Henry WR

:thumb:

I like all three of those draftees.

jcroft
04-20-2005, 02:31 PM
:thumb:

I like all three of those draftees.

I don't object to the draftees, really, but when Law's not fully recovered, we're running Warfield and Bartee out there -- no thanks.

Coogs
04-20-2005, 02:33 PM
If we sign Law then I DEFINITELY want a CB drafted in round one. Law is too big a question mark -- we can't rely on him. If we pick him up, we need to also do whatever it takes to get Rodgers, Pac-Man, or Rolle.

The ESPN crew said the other day that there is no way that Law is even on the down hill side of his career yet. Said he has several good years left.

Nothing personal, but I am going to go with their opinion.

Tribal Warfare
04-20-2005, 02:35 PM
My choice would be 2 CBs and 1 OLB, and w/out Surtain and no draft slot movement, we must take the best chance available at a starter-ready CB in round 1.

Option 1 - CB,CB,OLB

15 - CB Carlos Rogers
46 - CB Eric Green
99 - OLB Jordan Beck

Option 2 - CB,OLB,CB

15 - CB Carlos Rogers
46 - OLB Kevin Burnett
99 - CB Stanley Wilson

Then follow up with the best available WR prospect in round 4.


Rogers is going to Oakland

tyton75
04-20-2005, 02:36 PM
I have a feeling that Surtain is not going to be a Chief..

we'll probably do something with Law.. then draft a CB in the first (hopefully 1 of the top 3 are still there!!)

jcroft
04-20-2005, 02:38 PM
The ESPN crew said the other day that there is no way that Law is even on the down hill side of his career yet. Said he has several good years left.

Nothing personal, but I am going to go with their opinion.

I totally agree with them, too. He's definitely a great player still. But, he's injured. He may be still injured when the season starts. Even if he's ready to go, he'll still be prone to reinjuring himself.

With Surtain or a 1st round CB, we can reaonably expect them to start the first game of the season. With Law, we can not. Law is a great player, but that doesn't help us if he can't play.

The Bad Guy
04-20-2005, 02:42 PM
Rogers is going to Oakland

In the 2nd round that would be impressive.

Tribal Warfare
04-20-2005, 02:44 PM
I heard that've recieved Houston's #13 pick

Coogs
04-20-2005, 02:46 PM
I totally agree with them, too. He's definitely a great player still. But, he's injured. He may be still injured when the season starts. Even if he's ready to go, he'll still be prone to reinjuring himself.

With Surtain or a 1st round CB, we can reaonably expect them to start the first game of the season. With Law, we can not. Law is a great player, but that doesn't help us if he can't play.

Everybody in the NFL is prone to injuring themselves. Shoot, you never know, but even in practice at training camp guys get hurt. As good as our offense is, if one of a number of guys go down, our offense might suck.

It's just a gut freeling on my part, but I think Law is going to be good to go by the regular season.

patteeu
04-20-2005, 02:48 PM
Rogers is going to Oakland

With what pick? Do they even have a first rounder anymore?

Tribal Warfare
04-20-2005, 02:56 PM
maybe I'm wrong , I heard this at 3 AM half asleep

Mr. Laz
04-20-2005, 02:58 PM
mine

1/15 - CB Carlos Rogers, 6-1, 195, Auburn
2/46 - OLB Michael Boley, 6-3, 230, Southern Mississippi
3/99 - WR Fred Gibson, 6-4, 200, Georgia
4/116 - DT Anttaj Hawthorne 6-3, 321, Wisconsin (drops because of positive mary jane drug test)
5/147 - DE Chris Canty 6-7, 279, Virginia (drops because of eye injury and fight)
5/162 - C Richie Incognito 6-3, 305, Nebraska
6/187 - OT Todd Herremans 6-6, 310, Saginaw Valley St.
6/199 - CB Ellis Hobbs, 5-9, 192, Iowa State
7/229 - QB Stefan LeFors 6-0, 208, Louisville
7/238 - Punter Matt Payne 6-4, 235 BYU

Chiefnj
04-20-2005, 02:58 PM
I would hope that the acquisition or non-acquisition of Surtain would not affect the first round of the draft either way.

Coogs
04-20-2005, 03:00 PM
I would hope that the acquisition or non-acquisition of Surtain would not affect the first round of the draft either way.

:thumb:

KevB
04-20-2005, 03:57 PM
Here's mine:

Rogers
Burnett or Blackstock
Terrence Murphy (I think this guy will be very good)
Antonio Perkins
Mike Munoz
Dustin Colquitt
Dan Orlovsky
Jeb Huckeba (ST demon to replace Beisel/Maz)
Junior Rosegreen (paired back up with Rogers)
Adell Duckett (very good pass rusher in college)

We get a couple of impact defenders at corner and LB, a WR who could potentially be a #1 or #2 type WR, a nickel corner who's a very good ST guy, an OT with some injury history but the potential to be very good when healthy...worth the risk at that point, a punter who improves the position immediately...and with 10 picks a luxury we can afford, a QBOTF, another DE/LB hybrid who would be a ST demon at the least, a safety who's been in big games, and a DE who has shown the ability to get to the QB against a high level of competition

Tribal Warfare
04-20-2005, 03:59 PM
depends if either Merriman or DJ will slip too

chiefscafan
04-20-2005, 11:02 PM
no offense but with your draft our D will suck once again these are probably the picks we will get.

Once again Rodgers is a mistake and drafting for need is stupid when we could get a potential allstar at that pick.

CosmicPal
04-20-2005, 11:05 PM
7/229 - QB Stefan LeFors 6-0, 208, Louisville
7/238 - Punter Matt Payne 6-4, 235 BYU

I'd be real happy with these two picks, but do you honestly think they will drop this far?

philfree
04-20-2005, 11:08 PM
no offense but with your draft our D will suck once again these are probably the picks we will get.

Once again Rodgers is a mistake and drafting for need is stupid when we could get a potential allstar at that pick.


He said Rogers and and to say he's not a potential "allstar" is a bit much IMO. He has tons of potential and has played well also so I don't agree that at all. FWIW I'd favor option#2 given the two choices.


PhilFree:arrow:

el borracho
04-20-2005, 11:09 PM
Sign Law.

1st Davis S/OLB
2nd Tuck DE
3rd Beck OLB or Henry WR
This would rule!

philfree
04-20-2005, 11:16 PM
Sign Law.

1st Davis S/OLB
2nd Tuck DE
3rd Beck OLB or Henry WR

In a perfect world :) ...........with Law, Davis, Tuck, Bell and Knight I'd go with Henry in the 3rd.


PhilFree:arrow:

BigChiefFan
04-21-2005, 12:24 AM
The guys at ESPN seem to think Rogers is a top 10 pick. Looos no Surtain and we will end up with Marlin Jackson, if we are lucky enough they actually see some quality in him.

CanadaKC
04-21-2005, 12:48 AM
1) Trade up and deal for Derrick Johnson...so Miami can kiss our ass this draft cause our second rounder will go to some other team. Take that Saban..you dick.

2) Give Miami or second rounder in 2006...which will be next to the bottom of the round cause we're gonna kick some ass in the regular season. Thanks for Surtain Saban...and how bout that 64th overall pick?

Digital Takawira
04-21-2005, 03:32 AM
1) Trade up and deal for Derrick Johnson...so Miami can kiss our ass this draft cause our second rounder will go to some other team. Take that Saban..you dick.

2) Give Miami or second rounder in 2006...which will be next to the bottom of the round cause we're gonna kick some ass in the regular season. Thanks for Surtain Saban...and how bout that 64th overall pick?


if those 2 things happened, i would take back everything bad i've said about carl.

Nightfyre
04-21-2005, 04:28 AM
1) Trade up and deal for Derrick Johnson...so Miami can kiss our ass this draft cause our second rounder will go to some other team. Take that Saban..you dick.

2) Give Miami or second rounder in 2006...which will be next to the bottom of the round cause we're gonna kick some ass in the regular season. Thanks for Surtain Saban...and how bout that 64th overall pick?
I like it, but I want a CB in rd 2. *So Torn* giving up the second is suicide in this draft. No draft has ever had such a strong 2nd round. That is why Carl should play hardball with Miami.

yoswif
04-21-2005, 06:14 AM
Sign CB Ty Law. Sign LB Chad Brown when the Seahawks release him. Picks:

15. Pollack DE Georgia
46. McFadden CB Florida St.
99. Foxworth CB Maryland

I'd prefer Brown to a rookie LB. I think there will be good value at CB in every round of this draft.