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el borracho
04-20-2005, 11:48 PM
Why did the Texans trade a 2 and a 3 for Buchanon... when they could have had Surtain for a 2? In addition to pissing me off for helping the Raiders, it just doesn't make any sense. Is there any explanation?

Oregon chief
04-20-2005, 11:49 PM
buchanon is cheap

Phobia
04-20-2005, 11:50 PM
Charley Casserly believes very strongly in the youth movement. He didn't acquire any players over 30 in the expansion draft and he certainly won't acquire them when he has to give something in exchange.

John_Wayne
04-20-2005, 11:51 PM
buchanon is cheap That doesn't make sense. Did you read the question?

Pants
04-20-2005, 11:52 PM
Because God hates the Chiefs.

el borracho
04-20-2005, 11:53 PM
Well, those both sound like reasonable explanations.

Phobia
04-20-2005, 11:53 PM
That doesn't make sense. Did you read the question?

It totally makes sense. Buchanon's cap number is nowhere near $8,000,000 this year.

morphius
04-20-2005, 11:53 PM
Charley Casserly believes very strongly in the youth movement. He didn't acquire any players over 30 in the expansion draft and he certainly won't acquire them when he has to give something in exchange.
Surtain is that close to 30?

carlos3652
04-20-2005, 11:54 PM
Surtain isn't that close to 30.

29????

Woodrow Call
04-20-2005, 11:55 PM
Because the Texans knew they needed a CB and went out and got the one they wanted regardless of the picks they had to give up.

Must be nice.

morphius
04-20-2005, 11:55 PM
29????
For some reason I though someone here had said he was younger, I never checked for myself.

Phobia
04-20-2005, 11:55 PM
Surtain is that close to 30?

He'll be 29 in 2 months.

TEX
04-20-2005, 11:58 PM
Because the Texans knew they needed a CB and went out and got the one they wanted regardless of the picks they had to give up.

Must be nice.

Yep. :banghead:

Spicy McHaggis
04-20-2005, 11:58 PM
Charley Casserly believes very strongly in the youth movement. He didn't acquire any players over 30 in the expansion draft and he certainly won't acquire them when he has to give something in exchange.

Aaron Glenn was 30 when he was taken in the expansion draft.

Chiefnj
04-20-2005, 11:59 PM
Buchanon is going to hire Rosenhaus and hold out for more money.

Drew: "How can you pay my client less than 5 million a year when you gave up a 2nd and 3rd round pick for him? He's obviously very valuable to you."

Phobia
04-21-2005, 12:02 AM
Aaron Glenn was 30 when he was taken in the expansion draft.

Actually, he was 29 but the Texans made an exception for 2 reasons:

1. The Jets had a backdoor deal with the Jets to give them some cap relief.
2. Glenn is an Aggie, the Texans wanted to feature him to fans and they have. He has a radio show and is one of the most popular players on that team.

mcan
04-21-2005, 12:06 AM
In a straight trade, I'd say either one of those players is worth a first rounder. I'm not sure how many years Buchanon has left on his contract, but I know that Surtain has one year left. A "trade" for Surtain is just a "get something for him before he leaves" trade. We're just trading for his rights. Then we'll renegotiate a contract. That's why I don't think we should give up more than a third rounder.

If Buchanon has a few more years on his contract, then the Texans got a pretty good deal. If he went back into the draft pool today, he'd get picked in the top ten... Why would you give him to somebody else for less?

Phobia
04-21-2005, 12:16 AM
If Buchanon has a few more years on his contract, then the Texans got a pretty good deal. If he went back into the draft pool today, he'd get picked in the top ten... Why would you give him to somebody else for less?

He has 2. Buchanon didn't even get picked in the top 10 when he was drafted by the Raiders. Now that he's partially flopped with them, I wouldn't be surprised to see him drop into the 2nd. I'm very surprised the Texans gave 2 picks for him.

Joe Seahawk
04-21-2005, 12:18 AM
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Spicy McHaggis
04-21-2005, 12:35 AM
Actually, he was 29 but the Texans made an exception for 2 reasons:

1. The Jets had a backdoor deal with the Jets to give them some cap relief.
2. Glenn is an Aggie, the Texans wanted to feature him to fans and they have. He has a radio show and is one of the most popular players on that team.

Makes sense. I knew he was a hometown boy and figured that played into it.

keg in kc
04-21-2005, 01:37 AM
Because he's only going to be 25 during the season, he has a lot of (so far untapped) talent and he's still under his 5 year, 7 million rookie contract. I think 4 mil of that was SB, and I believe his number (total) for the remainder of his contract is less than 2 mil. Even if he signs a new deal, it probably won't be a blockbuster.

Young + Upside + Cheap + former 1st round pick = value

Mr. Laz
04-21-2005, 11:49 AM
Why did the Texans trade a 2 and a 3 for Buchanon... when they could have had Surtain for a 2? In addition to pissing me off for helping the Raiders, it just doesn't make any sense. Is there any explanation?
its basically been said in this thread already but ...

the cost for Surtain is WAAAAy above just a 2nd round pick. The contract Surtain wants is the big price, not the trade.


if surtain was in the middle of a reasonable contract he might be worth a 1st round pick.


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