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Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 10:01 AM
Yes!!!!!

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FringeNC
04-24-2005, 10:02 AM
ahhh Crap!

keg in kc
04-24-2005, 10:02 AM
Bullcrap.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 10:02 AM
We have to go bring back the Big Terd to go with Crap...

chiefmachine
04-24-2005, 10:03 AM
Who in the crap is this guy, anyone?

Mr. Laz
04-24-2005, 10:03 AM
Holy Crap!

Edubs
04-24-2005, 10:03 AM
I don't know much about him. Fill me in peeps.

beavis
04-24-2005, 10:03 AM
Snoooooooooooooop!!!!


Errrr, wait a sec...

keg in kc
04-24-2005, 10:03 AM
Wooohooo!! It's the next "Snoop" Minnis!

Herzig
04-24-2005, 10:04 AM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/thorpe_craphonso



Craphonso Thorpe
Position: Wide Receiver
College: Florida State
Height: 6-1
Weight: 188
Hometown: Tallahassee, Fla.

Analysis | Injury Report | Agility | High School | Personal

OVERVIEW
One of the fastest players in the nation, Thorpe made a successful return to action in 2004, nine months after he suffered a shattered right leg in which both of his major bones were broken on an overtime play vs. North Carolina State. Thorpe was not only a vital part of the Seminoles' football team, but also played an important role on Florida State's track-and-field teams.

Prior to his injury, Thorpe joined the indoor track team in 2002, turning in the Seminoles' top times in the 55-meter, 60-meter and 200-meter dashes. He won the 100- and 200-meter dashes at the 2003 Atlantic Coast Conference Outdoor Track Championships to lead Florida State to the team title and earn ACC Outdoor Track Performer of the Year. Thorpe qualified for his first NCAA Outdoor Track & Field Championships that year as an at-large candidate in the 4x100m relay, but was unable to compete due to a leg injury. He joined with teammates Kolby Jones, Brian Dzingai and Cedrick Robinson to achieve the fastest time of the season of

39.66 in the 4x100m relay during regional preliminary competition.

Thorpe was USA Today's second-team All-USA selection his senior season at Lincoln High School. He was named to the Super Southern team by the Atlanta Journal Constitution and the All-Southern Team by the Orlando Sentinel. Thorpe was not only one of the nation's top receivers, but also was regarded as one of the state of Florida's top cornerbacks. He caught 64 passes for 1,025 yards and eight touchdowns and returned two kickoffs and two punts for touchdowns his senior season. He also recorded 24 tackles, three interceptions, 14 pass break-ups and recovered two fumbles at the cornerback position. Thorpe helped lead Lincoln to the Class 6A state championship his senior season.

A reserve receiver as a true freshman, Thorpe handled the bulk of the team's kickoff return duties in 2001. He gained 561 yards on 26 returns (21.6 avg.) and caught 15 passes for 286 yards (19.1 avg.) and a touchdown. He remained a backup in 2002, managing 17 catches for 377 yards (22.2 avg.) and four touchdowns. He also returned 11 kickoffs for 222 yards (20.2 avg.).

Thorpe took over flanker duties as a junior, starting the first 11 games before suffering that gruesome leg injury. He finished the 2003 season with a career-high 51 receptions for 994 yards (19.5 avg.) and 11 touchdowns. His 11 scoring grabs rank sixth on the school's single-season record list. He was held out of 2004 preseason camps to continue recovering from surgery. Once the season began, he was ready for action. Thorpe ranked second on the team with 40 catches for 496 yards (12.4 avg.) and two touchdowns in his final year with the Seminoles. He missed the Duke game after suffering bruised ribs vs. Wake Forest, but had no problems with his leg the entire season.

Thorpe finished his career with 123 receptions for 2,153 yards (17.5 avg.) and 22 touchdowns while starting 21 of 48 games. His 123 catches rank 11th, his 2,153 yards rank seventh and his 22 scoring grabs rank sixth on the school's career-record list. He added 845 yards on 39 kickoff returns (21.7 avg.) and 13 yards on six carries (2.2 avg.). Thorpe and Ron Sellers (1967-68) are the only players in school history to gain over 200 yards receiving in a game twice in a career.

ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a lean, cut-up frame with good upper body development, adding over 10 pounds of muscle to his body while rehabilitating from his leg injury during the 2004 offseason Shows sudden explosion coming off the line of scrimmage and can get to top speed instantly to gain and eat up the cushion Compensates for a lack of strength with a quick initial burst to avoid the jam Shows quickness throughout his routes and has the fluid foot movement to gain separation coming out of his cuts Knows how to use his body to create separation and shows good tracking ability Natural hands catcher who will not hesitate to compete for the ball, timing his leaps to get to it at its high point Has a great burst and second gear to take the ball to the house after the catch Plays with very good field awareness and does a nice job settling into the soft spot of the zone Maintains concentration going for the ball in a crowd and shows the vision and burst to hit a seam Will win most foot races vs. man coverage, where he is a threat to get on top of the defender and dictate the route Has shown marked improvement coming out of his breaks and in running routes, especially on the fade.

Negatives: Has the deep speed to get vertical in a hurry, but seemed hesitant to take a hit the first half of 2004 as he continued to recover from his leg injury Despite his quickness, he did not make many big plays as a senior, as he was relegated to mostly short and intermediate routes Added weight before the season, but still lacks bulk and strength to defeat the jam, relying more on his burst to avoid it If a defender gets a hand on him after the catch, you will not see much yards after catch Runs good downfield routes, but perhaps because of his injury he looked stiff in his lower body when trying to run his patterns.

INJURY REPORT
2003 -- Underwent surgery to have a rod placed in his right leg (Nov. 15) to repair a fractured right tibia and fibula suffered during the second overtime of the North Carolina State game Held out of 2004 spring drills in order to continue his rehabilitation.

2004 -- Missed the Duke game (Nov. 6) after suffering bruised ribs two weeks prior vs. Wake Forest.

AGILITY

Campus: 4.34 in the 40-yard dash 273-pound bench press 245-pound squat 306-pound power clean 4.25 20-yard shuttle 37-inch vertical jump. Combine: Attended, but did not perform 32-inch arm length 9 3/8-inch hands.

HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Lincoln (Tallahassee, Fla.) High School, playing football for coach David Wilson USA Today's second-team All-USA selection his senior season and named to the Super Southern team by the Atlanta Journal Constitution and the All-Southern Team by the Orlando Sentinel Was not only one of the nation's top receivers, but also was regarded as one of the state of Florida's top cornerbacks Caught 64 passes for 1,025 yards and eight touchdowns and returned two kickoffs and two punts for touchdowns his senior season Also recorded 24 tackles, three interceptions, 14 pass break-ups and recovered two fumbles at the cornerback position Helped lead Lincoln to the Class 6A state championship his senior season Also lettered in track Won both the district and regional title in the 100-meter dash Finished second at the state meet in the 100-meter dash Turned in a top time of 10.62 in the 100-meters Earned additional top time of 21.96 in the 200-meters, 14.50 in the 110-meter hurdles and 39.82 in the 300-meter hurdles.

1adam1238
04-24-2005, 10:04 AM
ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a lean, cut-up frame with good upper body development, adding over 10 pounds of muscle to his body while rehabilitating from his leg injury during the 2004 offseason Shows sudden explosion coming off the line of scrimmage and can get to top speed instantly to gain and eat up the cushion Compensates for a lack of strength with a quick initial burst to avoid the jam Shows quickness throughout his routes and has the fluid foot movement to gain separation coming out of his cuts Knows how to use his body to create separation and shows good tracking ability Natural hands catcher who will not hesitate to compete for the ball, timing his leaps to get to it at its high point Has a great burst and second gear to take the ball to the house after the catch Plays with very good field awareness and does a nice job settling into the soft spot of the zone Maintains concentration going for the ball in a crowd and shows the vision and burst to hit a seam Will win most foot races vs. man coverage, where he is a threat to get on top of the defender and dictate the route Has shown marked improvement coming out of his breaks and in running routes, especially on the fade.
Negatives: Has the deep speed to get vertical in a hurry, but seemed hesitant to take a hit the first half of 2004 as he continued to recover from his leg injury Despite his quickness, he did not make many big plays as a senior, as he was relegated to mostly short and intermediate routes Added weight before the season, but still lacks bulk and strength to defeat the jam, relying more on his burst to avoid it If a defender gets a hand on him after the catch, you will not see much yards after catch Runs good downfield routes, but perhaps because of his injury he looked stiff in his lower body when trying to run his patterns.

Mr. Laz
04-24-2005, 10:04 AM
I don't know much about him. Fill me in peeps.
Craphonso Thorpe Grade: 3.74
Position: WR
Class: Sr
School: Florida St.
Conference: ACC
Ht., Wt.: 6-1, 188
40 Time: 4.45
Selected by: Kansas City Chiefs
Round 4, pick 15 (116 overall) Grading System



BIO: Posted 40/496/2 as a senior after an All-Conference campaign the prior year with 51/994/11 despite missing the final two games of the season after breaking his right leg. All-Conference selection in 2003. Former 100 meter sprint champion in the ACC.

POSITIVES: Game-controlling and game-breaking receiver slowly recovering from his leg injury of .03. Good route runner quick into breaks, gets separation from opponents and works hard to come free. Consistently extends his hands offering the quarterback a big target, catches the ball away from his frame or gets vertical and adjusts for the difficult reception. Displays good timing, possesses soft hands and plucks the pass out of the air. Easily makes the reception in stride and previously showed the ability to run away from defenders down the field. Smart football player who consistently finds the open spot in the defense. Shields opponents away with his frame. Willing blocker who gets adequate results down the field.

NEGATIVES: Has difficulty in a battle against larger opponents. Not a true burner and did not display a second gear last season. Must improve his strength and ability to get off jams.

ANALYSIS: Justifiably a highly ranked receiver coming into the season, Thorpe struggled through the campaign off the broken leg. Seemed to lose a half a step of speed as well as a lot of explosion. Will be downgraded accordingly, yet good value in round two as he eventually gets back to prior playing form and strength to his thin frame. Could develop into a very productive second receiver in the NFL.

PROJECTION: Early Third Round

Bwana
04-24-2005, 10:04 AM
I don't know much about him. Fill me in peeps.

OVERVIEW

One of the fastest players in the nation, Thorpe made a successful return to action in 2004, nine months after he suffered a shattered right leg in which both of his major bones were broken on an overtime play vs. North Carolina State. Thorpe was not only a vital part of the Seminoles' football team, but also played an important role on Florida State's track-and-field teams. Prior to his injury, Thorpe joined the indoor track team in 2002, turning in the Seminoles' top times in the 55-meter, 60-meter and 200-meter dashes. He won the 100- and 200-meter dashes at the 2003 Atlantic Coast Conference Outdoor Track Championships to lead Florida State to the team title and earn ACC Outdoor Track Performer of the Year. Thorpe qualified for his first NCAA Outdoor Track & Field Championships that year as an at-large candidate in the 4x100m relay, but was unable to compete due to a leg injury. He joined with teammates Kolby Jones, Brian Dzingai and Cedrick Robinson to achieve the fastest time of the season of 39.66 in the 4x100m relay during regional preliminary competition. Thorpe was USA Today's second-team All-USA selection his senior season at Lincoln High School. He was named to the Super Southern team by the Atlanta Journal Constitution and the All-Southern Team by the Orlando Sentinel. Thorpe was not only one of the nation's top receivers, but also was regarded as one of the state of Florida's top cornerbacks. He caught 64 passes for 1,025 yards and eight touchdowns and returned two kickoffs and two punts for touchdowns his senior season. He also recorded 24 tackles, three interceptions, 14 pass break-ups and recovered two fumbles at the cornerback position. Thorpe helped lead Lincoln to the Class 6A state championship his senior season. A reserve receiver as a true freshman, Thorpe handled the bulk of the team's kickoff return duties in 2001. He gained 561 yards on 26 returns (21.6 avg.) and caught 15 passes for 286 yards (19.1 avg.) and a touchdown. He remained a backup in 2002, managing 17 catches for 377 yards (22.2 avg.) and four touchdowns. He also returned 11 kickoffs for 222 yards (20.2 avg.). Thorpe took over flanker duties as a junior, starting the first 11 games before suffering that gruesome leg injury. He finished the 2003 season with a career-high 51 receptions for 994 yards (19.5 avg.) and 11 touchdowns. His 11 scoring grabs rank sixth on the school's single-season record list. He was held out of 2004 preseason camps to continue recovering from surgery. Once the season began, he was ready for action. Thorpe ranked second on the team with 40 catches for 496 yards (12.4 avg.) and two touchdowns in his final year with the Seminoles. He missed the Duke game after suffering bruised ribs vs. Wake Forest, but had no problems with his leg the entire season. Thorpe finished his career with 123 receptions for 2,153 yards (17.5 avg.) and 22 touchdowns while starting 21 of 48 games. His 123 catches rank 11th, his 2,153 yards rank seventh and his 22 scoring grabs rank sixth on the school's career-record list. He added 845 yards on 39 kickoff returns (21.7 avg.) and 13 yards on six carries (2.2 avg.). Thorpe and Ron Sellers (1967-68) are the only players in school history to gain over 200 yards receiving in a game twice in a career. ANALYSIS

Positives: Has a lean, cut-up frame with good upper body development, adding over 10 pounds of muscle to his body while rehabilitating from his leg injury during the 2004 offseason Shows sudden explosion coming off the line of scrimmage and can get to top speed instantly to gain and eat up the cushion Compensates for a lack of strength with a quick initial burst to avoid the jam Shows quickness throughout his routes and has the fluid foot movement to gain separation coming out of his cuts Knows how to use his body to create separation and shows good tracking ability Natural hands catcher who will not hesitate to compete for the ball, timing his leaps to get to it at its high point Has a great burst and second gear to take the ball to the house after the catch Plays with very good field awareness and does a nice job settling into the soft spot of the zone Maintains concentration going for the ball in a crowd and shows the vision and burst to hit a seam Will win most foot races vs. man coverage, where he is a threat to get on top of the defender and dictate the route Has shown marked improvement coming out of his breaks and in running routes, especially on the fade. Negatives: Has the deep speed to get vertical in a hurry, but seemed hesitant to take a hit the first half of 2004 as he continued to recover from his leg injury Despite his quickness, he did not make many big plays as a senior, as he was relegated to mostly short and intermediate routes Added weight before the season, but still lacks bulk and strength to defeat the jam, relying more on his burst to avoid it If a defender gets a hand on him after the catch, you will not see much yards after catch Runs good downfield routes, but perhaps because of his injury he looked stiff in his lower body when trying to run his patterns. INJURY REPORT

2003 -- Underwent surgery to have a rod placed in his right leg (Nov. 15) to repair a fractured right tibia and fibula suffered during the second overtime of the North Carolina State game Held out of 2004 spring drills in order to continue his rehabilitation. 2004 -- Missed the Duke game (Nov. 6) after suffering bruised ribs two weeks prior vs. Wake Forest. AGILITY

Campus: 4.34 in the 40-yard dash 273-pound bench press 245-pound squat 306-pound power clean 4.25 20-yard shuttle 37-inch vertical jump. Combine: Attended, but did not perform 32-inch arm length 9 3/8-inch hands. HIGH SCHOOL

Attended Lincoln (Tallahassee, Fla.) High School, playing football for coach David Wilson USA Today's second-team All-USA selection his senior season and named to the Super Southern team by the Atlanta Journal Constitution and the All-Southern Team by the Orlando Sentinel Was not only one of the nation's top receivers, but also was regarded as one of the state of Florida's top cornerbacks Caught 64 passes for 1,025 yards and eight touchdowns and returned two kickoffs and two punts for touchdowns his senior season Also recorded 24 tackles, three interceptions, 14 pass break-ups and recovered two fumbles at the cornerback position Helped lead Lincoln to the Class 6A state championship his senior season Also lettered in track Won both the district and regional title in the 100-meter dash Finished second at the state meet in the 100-meter dash Turned in a top time of 10.62 in the 100-meters Earned additional top time of 21.96 in the 200-meters, 14.50 in the 110-meter hurdles and 39.82 in the 300-meter hurdles. PERSONAL

Sports Management major Born June 27, 1983 Resides in Tallahassee, Fla.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 10:05 AM
From my Sporting News Mag.

6-1 187 4.37 40

"Has not been the same since breaking his leg in 2003"

Bottom Line:"Thrope failed to meet expectations in 2004, perhaps because his leg was not fully healed. He is tall and has adequate bulk and great speed. Despite durabililty concerns, Thorpe has rare big-play ability and could be selected in the 2nd RD"

rhoke
04-24-2005, 10:05 AM
He broke his leg a season or two ago. He had moments at Florida State but of course Chris Rix was his QB. No better than Snoop Minnis.

ChiTown
04-24-2005, 10:08 AM
Wooohooo!! It's the next "Snoop" Minnis!

Yep, my thoughts exactly. I think Fred Gibson would have been a much better pick, but we'll see

4th and Long
04-24-2005, 10:08 AM
This will put a whole new spin on the phrase, "Wow! What a Crappy catch!"

Edubs
04-24-2005, 10:09 AM
I don't like to hear that he is afraid of taking a hit. He better not turn into a pu$$y a$$ Morton.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 10:11 AM
Crap is no Snoop...He is skinny but not as skinny as Snoop and has something Snoop doesn't....speed.

Would have loved for Jerome Mathis to fallen two more picks to us but I'm not upset with this pick...Big upside if he can stay healthy.

Mr. Laz
04-24-2005, 10:11 AM
Yep, my thoughts exactly. I think Fred Gibson would have been a much better pick, but we'll see

agreed ... they couldn't resist the extra speed from thorpe i guess.



kiper just said something about Thorpe being 1st round material BEFORE breaking his leg.

hopefully after the 2nd year of recovery, he will rebound strong

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 10:12 AM
Yep, my thoughts exactly. I think Fred Gibson would have been a much better pick, but we'll seeGibson was my #1 choice, but I'm not upset about Thorpe.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 10:14 AM
You look at his average per catch and it is pretty amazing until this season....which is probably a result of still recovering from the broken leg.




2001 19.1

2002 22.2

2003 19.5

Terribilis
04-24-2005, 10:15 AM
I like this pick alot
this guy has big time upside...I just hope he can run crisp routes- with that leg

Herzig
04-24-2005, 10:15 AM
http://www.gbnreport.com/2005wrs.htm


TOP WR PROSPECTS FOR 2005

X - indicates player with an injury concern that could affect their ultimate draft status.
O - indicates player with a legal or other off-field concern that could affect their ultimate draft status.
* - indicates underclassmen


1. Braylon Edwards 6-3, 210 4.45 Michigan
2. *Mike Williams 6-5, 225 4.59 Southern California
3. *Troy Williamson 6-1, 205 4.38 South Carolina
4. Matt Jones 6-6, 242 4.40 Arkansas (QB/TE)
5. Mark Clayton 5-10, 193 4.43 Oklahoma
6. Terrence Murphy 6-1, 202 4.45 Texas A&M
7. Roddy White 6-1, 205 4.45 Alabama-Birmingham
8. Reggie Brown 6-2, 195 4.48 Georgia
9. Mark Bradley 6-1, 201 4.40 Oklahoma
10. *Chris Henry 6-4, 200 4.42 West Virginia (O)
11. Craphonso Thorpe 6-1, 190 4.41 Florida State (X)
12. Vincent Jackson 6-5, 241 4.55 Northern Colorado
13. *Roscoe Parrish 5-10, 170 4.43 Miami
14. Jerome Mathis 5-11, 185 4.40 Hampton
15. Fred Gibson 6-4, 195 4.55 Georgia
16. Courtney Roby 6-0, 190 4.33 Indiana
17. Craig Bragg 6-1, 195 4.50 UCLA
18. Brandon Jones 6-1, 207 4.45 Oklahoma
19. J.R. Russell 6-3, 205 4.51 Louisville
20. Roydell Williams 6-1,190 4.50 Tulane
21. *Larry Brackins 6-5, 220 4.60 Pearl River CC
22. Tab Perry 6-2, 230 4.50 UCLA
23. Airese Curry 5-10, 185 4.52 Clemson
24. Dante Ridgeway 5-11, 206 4.62 Ball State
25. Josh Davis 6-0, 190 4.55 Marshal
26. Paris Warren 6-0, 220 4.72 Utah
27. Chad Owens 5-7, 185 4.62 Hawaii
28. *Steve Savoy 5-11, 190 4.72 Utah
29. Leron McCoy 6-1, 210 4.40 Indiana (Pa)
30. Chase Lyman 6-3, 215 4.49 California (X)
31. Taylor Stubblefield 5-11, 174 4.68 Purdue (X)
32. Tommy Manus 6-4, 222 4.55 Morgan State
33. Reggie Harrell 6-3, 215 4.60 Texas Christian
34. Geoff McArthur 6-0, 200 4.60 California (X)
35. Lance Moore 5-9, 177 4.50 Toledo
36. Isaac West 6-0, 190 4.45 Furman
37. Chauncey Stovall 6-1, 221 4.63 Florida State
38. Brandon Rideau 6-4, 200 4.55 Kansas
39. Kerry Wright 5-9, 180 4.45 Middle Tennessee State
40. Jason Anderson 6-2, 195 4.65 Wake Forest
41. Efrem Hill 6-1, 180 4.55 Samford
42. Dan Sheldon 5-9, 180 4.45 Northern Illinois (KR)
43. Will Peoples 6-0, 205 4.60 Oklahoma
44. Rasheed Marshall 6-0, 185 4.50 West Virginia (QB)
45. Jamiaca Rector 5-10, 185 4.50 Northwest Missouri State
46. Tony Madison 6-1, 215 4.49 Kansas State
47. Steve Suter 5-8, 192 4.45 Maryland (KR)
48. Howard Gilmore 6-0, 190 4.55 Norfolk State
49. Tony Brown 6-2, 200 4.45 Tennessee
50. Jason Samples 6-0, 210 4.55 Troy State (X)
51. Charles Frederick 5-11, 195 4.75 Washington (X)
52. Paris Hamilton 6-1, 195 4.45 Minnesota (X)
53. Jason Carter 6-0, 210 4.48 Texas A&M
54. Keron Henry 6-1, 220 4.60 UConn
55. Jonathan Makkonen 5-11, 195 4.60 California
56. Fred Amey 5-10, 190 4.55 Sacramento State
57. Levon Thomas 6-0, 190 4.55 Georgia Tech
58. Chris Bush 6-2, 205 4.60 Tulane
59. Jamarcus Shepherd 5-11, 205 Depauw
60. Chris Jones 6-2, 211 4.45 Jackson State
61. Grant Adams 6-0, 200 4.63 Boston College
62. Curtis Williams 6-1, 205 4.45 Maryland (FS/ST)
63. Rod Miller 5-10, 180 4.48 Florida A&M
64. Marcus Maxwell 6-3, 205 4.45 Oregon
65. Brandon Smith 6-0, 190 4.40 Vanderbilt
66. T.J. Acree 5-10, 175 4.65 Boise State
67. Tavares Gideon 6-2, 210 4.60 Tulane
68. Tramission Davis 5-11, 185 4.50 Louisiana Tech
69. Hannibal Thomas 6-3, 205 Cincinnati
70. Carlyle Holiday 6-2, 220 4.55 Notre Dame
71. Nehemiah Glover 5-8, 180 4.60 Texas Tech
72. Earvin Johnson 6-0-2, 200 4.72 UNLV
73. Thomas Omboga 6-2, 195 4.60 Missouri
74. Harry Williams 6-2, 175 4.55 Tuskegee
75. <> Devin Pitts 6-2, 205 4.58 San Diego State
76. Pedro Holiday 6-1, 180 4.42 Middle Tennessee State
77. Travis Haney 6-4, 215 4.55 Indiana
78. James Hawkins 6-1, 220 4.55 Bowling Green
79. Allen Burrell 5-10, 175 4.40 North Dakota State
80. Lawrence Bady 5-10, 190 4.52 Boise State
81. Levander Segars 5-9, 180 4.45 Montana
82. Cole Magner 6-1, 195 4.57 Bowling Green
83. Tres Moses 5-10, 180 Rutgers

keg in kc
04-24-2005, 10:16 AM
Tony Pauline (TFY.com) is on 810 right now and he's saying that Thorpe is an extremely polished receiver, that he could grow into a legit #2 in the NFL once he's stronger.

dirk digler
04-24-2005, 10:16 AM
agreed ... they couldn't resist the extra speed from thorpe i guess.



kiper just said something about Thorpe being 1st round material BEFORE breaking his leg.

hopefully after the 2nd year of recovery, he will rebound strong

Yep coming into this season he was projected to be a 1st round pick but still struggled with his broken leg. Could be a huge steal.

Same size as Roydell Williams but faster and more polished.

KevB
04-24-2005, 10:16 AM
agreed ... they couldn't resist the extra speed from thorpe i guess.



kiper just said something about Thorpe being 1st round material BEFORE breaking his leg.

hopefully after the 2nd year of recovery, he will rebound strong

Exactly. It was a bad fracture, so it doesn't surprise me that it would take awhile to come back from. He's got good size, very good speed, can catch the ball well, and played against top competition. A very nice pick IMO.

jettio
04-24-2005, 10:17 AM
With a name like Thorpe and coming from a school with an Indian mascot, you gotta figure that he has some good bloodlines. :Peace:

Good forty time and a history of injury. Kiper says he is like a Snoop Minnis with a Rocket Booster.

Voyager references another recent FSU receiver, and says Thorpe is an Anqaun Boldin with an eating disorder. :Lin:

Just having fun, Good luck to Him and the Chiefs.

TRR
04-24-2005, 10:18 AM
A lot of mocks had him going in the late 2nd/early 3rd round. Got to love the value at the middle of the 4th round. As somebody stated, Kiper said Thorpe could have been a first round selection had it not been for the injury.

Bottom line, this draft is pretty weak. Any quality we get from here on out will be a very big bonus.

LamarJr
04-24-2005, 10:18 AM
I can definitely see a year with the practice squad & a year in NFLE for this guy hoping he can get over his leg...this guy had first round talent "BEFORE" his broken leg :deevee: ...the question is......

Can he get it back? :hmmm:

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 10:19 AM
I hope we can eventually pick up DeCody Fagg to go along with him...

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 10:19 AM
We're bound to hit on one of these sometime. Maybe it's our turn.

keg in kc
04-24-2005, 10:19 AM
Voyager references another recent FSU receiver, and says Thorpe is an Anqaun Boldin with an eating disorder. Oh, well if Voyager says it

jspchief
04-24-2005, 10:19 AM
Per ESPN Insider:

Strengths: Is tall, has decent bulk and the frame to get bigger. Is at his best vs. man-coverage. He shows good burst out of his breaks and the ability to consistently separate from man-coverage in the intermediate area. Has very good concentration and hand-eye coordination. Does an excellent job of adjusting to the poorly thrown ball and of tracking down the deep ball in the air. Has long arms, good leaping ability and is a weapon on the fade route. Gives a decent effort and shows some toughness as a blocker.

Weaknesses: Was once considered a consistent threat to get over the top of DB's one-on-one. However, he suffered a broken right leg on 11/19/03 and was not been as confident or aggressive following the injury as a senior. Still flashes deep speed but didn't make as many plays vertically as a senior. Is improving as a route runner but still has work to do. Needs to do a better job of recognizing zone coverage and finding soft spots in it. Did not show the same burst and second gear in 2004 that he showed prior to 2003 injury. Has a good frame and top-end speed but lacks strength and explosive initial burst. Didn't get challenged much on film in press coverage but the few times he did he seemed to get frustrated. He needs to improve his upper body strength and develop more reliable moves in terms of his release. Also can improve as a blocker if he gets stronger and fills out his frame.

Overall: Thorpe, who also has led FSU to two outdoor (2002 and 2003) and one indoor (2003) ACC Track and Field championships, has been a contributor at wide receiver and in the return game since his true freshman season in 2001. As a junior in 2003, Thorpe led the Seminoles with 51 receptions for 994 yards and 11 touchdowns despite missing the final two games because of injury. Thorpe was expected to have a huge bounce-back season in 2004 but failed to meet expectations. He was suspended for one game and wound up with just 40 receptions for 496 yards in 11 games played as a senior. Thorpe is a tall receiver who possesses adequate bulk and very good speed. He still has room to improve as a route runner and he has some durability/character concerns following broken leg in20'03 and one-game suspension (failing to attend class) in 2004. He also seemed more hesitant and less explosive coming off the injury as a senior than he was prior to it in 2003. Thorpe does, however, have the speed and home run hitting potential that is difficult to find, which is why despite failing to live up to expectations as a senior he could still wind up getting selected late on the first day or early on the second day of the 2005 draft.

Count Zarth
04-24-2005, 10:20 AM
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KCChiefsFan88
04-24-2005, 10:20 AM
Another very good pick, especially in the 4th round. Last year his production was down because he was recovering from a bad broken leg he suffered in November 2003 and because the QB situation at FSU was horrible last season.

To compare him to Snoop Minnis is inaccurate because he's already nearly 20 pounds heavier than Snoop ever was.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 10:21 AM
Tony Pauline (TFY.com) is on 810 right now and he's saying that Thorpe is an extremely polished receiver, that he could grow into a legit #2 in the NFL once he's stronger.


Well if he is extremely polished with his athletic ability he can grow into a legit #1 especially on the Chiefs considering we don't have a legit #1.

mlyonsd
04-24-2005, 10:22 AM
Sounds like a decent pick to me, although for some reason reading the scouting reports all I can think of is Sly Mo. Hope I'm wrong.

We need a stud WR. If we had one we probably wouldn't ever need a punter.

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 10:22 AM
67. Tavares Gideon 6-2, 210 4.60 TulaneA) VASTLY UNDERRATED
B) He is CLUTCH, and an extremely solid receiver
C) He went to Memphis

TRR
04-24-2005, 10:24 AM
Well if he is extremely polished with his athletic ability he can grow into a legit #1 especially on the Chiefs considering we don't have a legit #1.

KC's legit #1 is Tony Gonzalez in the passing game, and always will be regardless of who we bring in at WR. The offense is geared towards TG and Holmes. KC's WR's are third and fourth options.

Count Zarth
04-24-2005, 10:24 AM
So far this draft has been AWESOME.

Boerigter, Parker and our NFLE guys are gonna have some bigtime competition in camp.

buff18
04-24-2005, 10:25 AM
This guy has always reminded me of Chad Johnson.....he has that much upside. I like this pick, he doesnt necessarly have to step right in there. Him and Sammy Parker gives us deep threats, we could really stretch the field with these guys.

When are we gonna draft a QB? Someone that can learn from Trent for a few years?

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 10:25 AM
So far this draft has been AWESOME.

Boerigter, Parker and our NFLE guys are gonna have some bigtime competition in camp.It's pretty sweet what Carl's done so far.

:spock:

Great thing about this pick is that it takes even more pressure off Hall to play WR and frees him up to do what he's best at.

DaKCMan AP
04-24-2005, 10:27 AM
Thorpe is closer to Javon Walker than Snoop Minnis. He's smaller than Walker, but bigger and much much much faster than Minnis.

Mr. Laz
04-24-2005, 10:28 AM
Great thing about this pick is that it takes even more pressure off Hall to play WR and frees him up to do what he's best at.

:clap: :clap:

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 10:29 AM
KC's legit #1 is Tony Gonzalez in the passing game, and always will be regardless of who we bring in at WR. The offense is geared towards TG and Holmes. KC's WR's are third and fourth options.


It's geared to TG and Holmes cause we have $hit for receivers...As for always being geared to TG is far from true cause he isn't a spring chicken(29 years old) and probably will play at a very high level for just another two to three years. He will be in the league longer than that if he wants to be but he will slow down, everybody does.

This same passing offense in St Louis was "geared" towards WR's because they had two really good ones. When we finally put some quality WR's on the field this offense will use them as much as any offense in the league.

Count Zarth
04-24-2005, 10:30 AM
It's pretty sweet what Carl's done so far.

:spock:

Great thing about this pick is that it takes even more pressure off Hall to play WR and frees him up to do what he's best at.

The Chiefs need to give 75% of Dante Hall's WR snaps to Samie Parker.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 10:32 AM
The Chiefs need to give 75% of Dante Hall's WR snaps to Samie Parker.


I could easily see Crap becoming a quality #1 and Parker a very good #2....Also would like to see DV pull his head out of the ass of the old vets and give Richard Smith a fair shake this year...That guy showed he can be a hell of a playmaker last year in the preseason.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 10:33 AM
The Chiefs need to give 75% of Dante Hall's WR snaps to Samie Parker.

:clap: Hall was a nice experiment but it is time to let him do his return gig and little else. The gimmick pass plays to him don't work like they used to.

Rausch
04-24-2005, 10:35 AM
What a perfect draft. Carl even manages to thorow me a bone by taking a later round Nole. Thank you Carl (if we don't draft a 3rd RB, THIS IS MY ADOPTED CHIEF.)

Oh, and was anyone dumb enough to take Rix?

ArrowheadHawk
04-24-2005, 10:36 AM
"West Virginia (Gator Bowl)...Covered by All-American cornerback Adam Jones, he had five catches for 73 yards and a 14-yard touchdown"

I like this little tidbit i found on the chiefs homepage
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/04/24/chiefs_select_wr_craphonso_thorpe_in_4th_round/

Coach
04-24-2005, 10:38 AM
Hmm.. so does this move might spell the end of Johnnie Morton?

Rausch
04-24-2005, 10:38 AM
I could easily see Crap becoming a quality #1 and Parker a very good #2....Also would like to see DV pull his head out of the ass of the old vets and give Richard Smith a fair shake this year...That guy showed he can be a hell of a playmaker last year in the preseason.

First order of action should be cut cut Salt-lick as soon as the cap hit transfers to NEXT year. It seems obvious that what we need there is a guy isn't a speedster but a guy with nice quickness off the line and the ability to catch EVERYTHING. Really a 3rd down type WR.

Rausch
04-24-2005, 10:39 AM
:clap: Hall was a nice experiment but it is time to let him do his return gig and little else. The gimmick pass plays to him don't work like they used to.

Unless we play Denver. For some reason he just OWNZ denber...

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 10:40 AM
Hmm.. so does this move might spell the end of Johnnie Morton?

Depends on Parker's progression, Bo's recovery, and Thorpe's readiness.

I say Morton is gone.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 10:40 AM
Unless we play Denver. For some reason he just OWNZ denber...

That is true. It is his best quality IMO.

jspchief
04-24-2005, 10:45 AM
From ESPN Insider:

Has long arms, good leaping ability and is a weapon on the fade route.

This is something the Chiefs are in dire need of. We don't have a guy that can be used on the corner fade in the endzone other than Gonzo.

When's the last time you saw one of our WRs actually go up and get a ball? Kennison and Morton just don't have that ability.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 10:47 AM
From ESPN Insider:



This is something the Chiefs are in dire need of. We don't have a guy that can be used on the corner fade in the endzone other than Gonzo.

When's the last time you saw one of our WRs actually go up and get a ball? Kennison and Morton just don't have that ability.

Gonzo, Bo, and Thorpe in the Red Zone package would give Green some nice targets down there.

I love pick more and more.

crossbow
04-24-2005, 10:48 AM
I could easily see Crap becoming a quality #1 and Parker a very good #2....Also would like to see DV pull his head out of the ass of the old vets and give Richard Smith a fair shake this year...That guy showed he can be a hell of a playmaker last year in the preseason.

Now we're talkin'. Richard Smith is going to be a quality receiver. He has a ton of talent: Speed, hands, vision, agility, acceleration. When he gets behind the corners, it is over...6 points.

keg in kc
04-24-2005, 10:48 AM
Gonzo, Bo, and Thorpe in the Red Zone package would give Green some nice targets down there.Don't forget Wilson.

Mr. Laz
04-24-2005, 10:48 AM
Hmm.. so does this move might spell the end of Johnnie Morton?
probably ... unless Morton took a pay cut

i imagine carl is keep Morton and his 4 million dollar cap number this year as a money bank.

he'll cut Morton whenever he needs the cap room. If he doesn't need the cap room he'll wait and cut him after june 1st.

Count Zarth
04-24-2005, 10:49 AM
Now we're talkin'. Richard Smith is going to be a quality receiver. He has a ton of talent: Speed, hands, vision, agility, acceleration. When he gets behind the corners, it is over...6 points.

We're so loaded at WR....I can't wait for camp.

yoswif
04-24-2005, 10:51 AM
If Thorpe had finished '03' healthy, he probably would have been competing for a top 5 spot in a very good '04' WR class. His bowl performance vs Pac Man and W. Virginia leads me to believe he'll be very close to his pre injury form at the start of training camp. Great value.

crossbow
04-24-2005, 10:53 AM
Marty took Sproles. I bet he saw what Dante can do on special teams and figured it was good.

AirForceChief
04-24-2005, 10:57 AM
From CBS Sporstline...

OVERVIEW
One of the fastest players in the nation, Thorpe made a successful return to action in 2004, nine months after he suffered a shattered right leg in which both of his major bones were broken on an overtime play vs. North Carolina State. Thorpe was not only a vital part of the Seminoles' football team, but also played an important role on FSU's track-and-field teams.

Prior to his injury, Thorpe joined the indoor track team in 2002, turning in the Seminoles' top times in the 55m, 60m and 200m dashes. He won the 100- and 200-meter dashes at the 2003 Atlantic Coast Conference Outdoor Track Championships to lead FSU to the team title and earn ACC Outdoor Track Performer of the Year. Thorpe qualified for his first NCAA Outdoor Track & Field Championships that year as an at-large candidate in the 4x100m relay, but was unable to compete due to a leg injury. He joined with teammates Kolby Jones, Brian Dzingai and Cedrick Robinson to achieve the fastest time of the season of 39.66 in the 4x100m relay during regional preliminary competition.

Thorpe was USA Today's second-team All-USA selection his senior season at Lincoln High School. He was named to the Super Southern team by the Atlanta Journal Constitution and the All-Southern Team by the Orlando Sentinel. Craphonso was not only one of the nation's top receivers, but also was regarded as one of the state of Florida's top cornerbacks. He caught 64 passes for 1,025 yards and eight touchdowns and returned two kickoffs and two punts for touchdowns his senior season. He also recorded 24 tackles, three interceptions, 14 pass break-ups and recovered two fumbles at the cornerback position. Thorpe helped lead Lincoln to the Class 6A state championship his senior season.

A reserve receiver as a true freshman, Thorpe handled the bulk of the team's kickoff return duties in 2001. He gained 561 yards on 26 returns (21.6 avg) and caught fifteen passes for 286 yards (19.1 avg) and a touchdown. He remained a backup in 2002, managing 17 catches for 377 yards (22.2 avg) and four touchdowns. He also returned eleven kickoffs for 222 yards (20.2 avg).

Thorpe took over flanker duties as a junior, starting the first eleven games before suffering that gruesome leg injury. He finished the 2003 season with a career-high 51 receptions for 994 yards (19.5 avg) and eleven touchdowns. His eleven scoring grabs rank sixth on the school's single-season record list. He was held out of 2004 preseason camps to continue recovering from surgery. Once the season began, he was ready for action. Thorpe ranked second on the team with 40 catches for 496 yards (12.4 avg) and two touchdowns in his final year with the Seminoles. He missed the Duke game after suffering bruised ribs vs. Wake Forest, but had no problems with his leg the entire season.

Thorpe finished his career with 123 receptions for 2,153 yards (17.5 avg) and 22 touchdowns while starting 21 of 48 games. His 123 catches rank eleventh, his 2,153 yards rank seventh and his 22 scoring grabs rank sixth on the school's career-record list. He added 845 yards on 39 kickoff returns (21.7 avg) and 13 yards on six carries (2.2 avg). Thorpe and Ron Sellers (1967-68) are the only players in school history to gain over 200 yards receiving in a game twice in a career.


ANALYSIS
Positives Has a lean, cut-up frame with good upper body development, adding over ten pounds of muscle to his body while rehabilitating from his leg injury during the 2004 offseason Shows sudden explosion coming off the line of scrimmage and can get to top speed instantly to gain and eat up the cushion Compensates for a lack of strength with a quick initial burst to avoid the jam Shows quickness throughout his routes and has the fluid foot movement to gain separation coming out of his cuts Knows how to use his body to create separation and shows good tracking ability Natural hands catcher who will not hesitate to compete for the ball, timing his leaps to get to it at its high point Has a great burst and second gear to take the ball to the house after the catch Plays with very good field awareness and does a nice job settling into the soft spot of the zone Maintains concentration going for the ball in a crowd and shows the vision and burst to hit a seam Will win most foot races vs. man coverage, where he is a threat to get on top of the defender and dictate the route Has shown marked improvement coming out of his breaks and in running routes, especially on the fade.

Negatives Has the deep speed to get vertical in a hurry, but seemed hesitant to take a hit the first half of 2004 as he continued to recover from his leg injury Despite his quickness, he did not make many big plays as a senior, as he was relegated to mostly short and intermediate routes Added weight before the season, but still lacks bulk and strength to defeat the jam, relying more on his burst to avoid it If a defender gets a hand on him after the catch, you will not see much RAC there Runs good downfield routes, but perhaps because of his injury he looked stiff in his lower body when trying to run his patterns.


INJURY REPORT
2003: Underwent surgery to have a rod placed in his right leg (11/15) to repair a fractured right tibia and fibula suffered during the second overtime of the North Carolina State game Held out of 2004 spring drills in order to continue his rehabilitation.

2004: Missed the Duke game (11/06) after suffering bruised ribs two weeks prior vs. Wake Forest.


AGILITY
CAMPUS -- 4.34 in the 40-yard dash 273-pound bench press 245-pound squat 306-pound power clean 4.25 20-yard shuttle 37.5-inch vertical jump 13/21 Wonderlic score. COMBINE-- Attended, but did not perform 32 -inch arm length 9 3/8-inch hands 20 Wonderlic score.


HIGH SCHOOL

He was also one of Florida's top CB prospects.

4th and Long
04-24-2005, 10:58 AM
Marty took Sproles. I bet he saw what Dante can do on special teams and figured it was good.
Dante is taller, faster, and has more talent in his left nut than Sproles ever will.

crossbow
04-24-2005, 11:05 AM
Dante is taller, faster, and has more talent in his left nut than Sproles ever will.

Give Sproles some credit. He was considered for the Heisman. He is no slouch. Just short.

eazyb81
04-24-2005, 11:11 AM
I'm sure nobody remember, but Craphonso Thorpe was the guy I wanted in the 3rd and predicted we would draft today. WHERE'S MY PROPS???

:)

Sure-Oz
04-24-2005, 11:24 AM
I like the pic, i was wanting him or that WV WR, did he get taken, the only concern I had with the WV WR was his attitude.

KCJake
04-24-2005, 11:26 AM
Just woke up. Damn im lazy. Anyway, looks like the draft is going great for us. This Thorpe kid looks good. We just took a DB also.

ZootedGranny
04-24-2005, 12:44 PM
What a steal. If he gets more of a shot to start the season than Parker did last year, both Parker and Thorpe could be starting, and giving secondaries fits with their speed.

Digital Takawira
04-24-2005, 05:43 PM
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


my favorite player off my favorite team! this draft is damn near a dream come true with DJ and Cro. now if only we could have taken adrian mcpherson, it would have been perfect.

Coach
04-24-2005, 05:51 PM
From ESPN Insider:



This is something the Chiefs are in dire need of. We don't have a guy that can be used on the corner fade in the endzone other than Gonzo.

When's the last time you saw one of our WRs actually go up and get a ball? Kennison and Morton just don't have that ability.

Nice. It's been a long time since we seen a fade route to a WR, other than Gonzo. I think he'll be a solid player. Keep in mind, he was projected to go to 1st round, only that injury really hurted his stock. If he says that he's back and ready to go, and he backs it up, I think we'll be the #1 offense in the NFL again, with, more yards than we previously had in the past. It's possible.

Coach
04-24-2005, 05:52 PM
I like the pic, i was wanting him or that WV WR, did he get taken, the only concern I had with the WV WR was his attitude.

Chris Hendry? Yeah, I was a bit leery about him. As for Craphono, I haven't seen any red flags about his character yet.

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 05:56 PM
What a perfect draft. Carl even manages to thorow me a bone by taking a later round Nole. Thank you Carl (if we don't draft a 3rd RB, THIS IS MY ADOPTED CHIEF.)

Oh, and was anyone dumb enough to take Rix?
SD was dumb enough to take Sproles.

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 05:59 PM
Dante is taller, faster, and has more talent in his left nut than Sproles ever will.
Yep.

Coach
04-24-2005, 07:39 PM
Mmmm... yes I can see it now... Craphonso blasts by Champ Bailey for a TD and I can see him saying

"YOU JUST GOT CRAPHONOWNED!"

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 07:46 PM
Nice. It's been a long time since we seen a fade route to a WR, other than Gonzo. I think he'll be a solid player. Keep in mind, he was projected to go to 1st round, only that injury really hurted his stock. If he says that he's back and ready to go, and he backs it up, I think we'll be the #1 offense in the NFL again, with, more yards than we previously had in the past. It's possible.
Yeah, that injury did hurted his stock.

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 07:59 PM
Yeah, that injury did hurted his stock.:LOL: :LOL:

Cochise
09-11-2006, 08:46 PM
lolz

Bwana
09-11-2006, 08:49 PM
*Snicker*

siberian khatru
09-11-2006, 08:49 PM
Not this Crap again.

Ultra Peanut
09-11-2006, 08:49 PM
shut up

YOU SHUT THE HELL UP

:deevee:

Cochise
09-11-2006, 08:50 PM
Now he's just a skidmark.

Ultra Peanut
09-11-2006, 08:54 PM
Personally, I blame all of the people making fun of his name. Do you understand the emotional turmoil he's gone through because of your insensitivity?

siberian khatru
09-11-2006, 08:55 PM
Personally, I blame all of the people making fun of his name. Do you understand the emotional turmoil he's gone through because of your insensitivity?

Then he should've changed it to Turdell.

Demonpenz
09-11-2006, 10:33 PM
finally someone played up to their name

Rausch
09-11-2006, 10:36 PM
Yet another in a long list of 'Noles Peterson has offered up to the rookie bonfire...

Mecca
09-11-2006, 10:37 PM
Yet another in a long list of 'Noles Peterson has offered up to the rookie bonfire...

I think it's rookies in general.

runnercyclist
09-11-2006, 10:38 PM
Then he should've changed it to Turdell.

or Assholio

Tribal Warfare
09-11-2006, 10:41 PM
*FLUSH* what's that sound oooh yeah it's his f*ckin career going down the shitter