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Zach
04-24-2005, 11:31 AM
Hey gang-

I know I don't post much here, I'm mostly a lurker, but I am from Normal, Illinois--home of Illinois State University, where Boomer Grigsby played ball. Back in my playing days, I played against Boomer when he was at Canton High School in Illinois. I've also had the opportunity to be in touch with a few of the ISU coaches and have been to watch film and discuss players with them.

Boomer is a great, great athlete. He will probably have the most impressive physique at camp with huge arms, and a 6-pack that you won't see on most middlelinebackers. He's short, but very quick, very fast, and very strong. He's become inbeded in central Illinois folklore as far as his weightroom workouts go.

Boom came to ISU and the offensive coaches wanted to move him to runningback, but he continually would make every tackle in practice, almost forcing the defensive staff to keep him over there.

A lot of question marks will arise with him playing at a small school, but ISU has played Illinois, Minnesota, and Purdue where Boomer excelled.

The thing you won't have to worry about this young man is lack of confidence. It is well known how confident/cocky he is. He brought instant attitude ISU and hopefully can make that impact on Chiefs special teams, or LB--depending on if someone goes down.

If any of you saw the Shrine Game, Boomer forced a fumble on a kickoff, recovered it, and got right in the face of the other player to tell him about it.

I'm extremely excited about this pick--to say the least.

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 11:40 AM
Nice to see you on here, but he will be training camp fodder . The guy has too many issues to learn and be taught to be on an NFL team right away.

Sorry, I'm disappointed with the pick because we have an aging OL to repair.

ChiefsCountry
04-24-2005, 11:44 AM
Nice to see you on here, but he will be training camp fodder . The guy has too many issues to learn and be taught to be on an NFL team right away.

Sorry, I'm disappointed with the pick because we have an aging OL to repair.

You are just pissed bc this means Scanlon gets cut.

shaneo69
04-24-2005, 11:44 AM
Nice to see you on here, but he will be training camp fodder . The guy has too many issues to learn and be taught to be on an NFL team right away.

Sorry, I'm disappointed with the pick because we have an aging OL to repair.

You really need some help.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 11:45 AM
Spin it Scanlan fans spin it

Gravedigger
04-24-2005, 11:46 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing what he's got.

suds79
04-24-2005, 11:47 AM
Hey sounds all good so far.

I personally couldn't care less about how tall ab MLB is. The stockier the better IMO for all those hits.

And I'm glad to hear he's a little cocky. IMO playing defense you have to have that attitude that nobody can take you and that if they do on a play, they were lucky (ie - short memory).

Lets see what happens. Couldn't be too hard to compete with Kawika Mitchell.

eazyb81
04-24-2005, 11:48 AM
Good riddance Scanlon.....

I am excited to see this Grigsby kid in training camp, hopefully he will beat up Sims.

Joe Seahawk
04-24-2005, 11:49 AM
BOOM goes the dynamite!

Bwana
04-24-2005, 11:52 AM
Good Read! It sounds like he is a beast with an attitude. He will fit right in. Good pick.

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 11:54 AM
You are just pissed bc this means Scanlon gets cut.
Yep.

Wile_E_Coyote
04-24-2005, 11:54 AM
Grisby, BEE-UT-TEE-FUL


~scallions 1.5 seconds is up

Big Chief Homer
04-24-2005, 11:56 AM
Nice to see you on here, but he will be training camp fodder . The guy has too many issues to learn and be taught to be on an NFL team right away.

Sorry, I'm disappointed with the pick because we have an aging OL to repair.


while I agree with the statement that we need O-Line men and would have liked to have seen one drafted in that slot.To say a player just drafted 10 minutes ago is camp fodder is just dumb especially from someone whose been pimping scanlon since the day we drafted him.in what the 6th round last year.

Rausch
04-24-2005, 11:58 AM
Nice to see you on here, but he will be training camp fodder . The guy has too many issues to learn and be taught to be on an NFL team right away.

Sorry, I'm disappointed with the pick because we have an aging OL to repair.

Count Zarth
04-24-2005, 11:59 AM
So far Scanlon has proven more than this rookie. I guess we'll see.

I would say the odds of this kid getting stuck on the practice squad are high.

Big Chief Homer
04-24-2005, 12:04 PM
[QUOTE=gochiefs]So far Scanlon has proven more than this rookie. I guess we'll see.

to who?,people in Berlin? :p

whoman69
04-24-2005, 12:04 PM
Sound like a guy with his speed could do well on ST. Some of the scouting reports are contradictory, perhaps because the difference of quickness and speed.

Count Zarth
04-24-2005, 12:05 PM
[QUOTE=gochiefs]So far Scanlon has proven more than this rookie. I guess we'll see.

to who?,people in Berlin? :p

That counts for something.

I think Scanlon will definitely make the 53-man roster this year.

Zach
04-24-2005, 12:06 PM
Scanlon and Mitchell will either have to move to a different LB spot, or find a new a day job.

Michael Michigan
04-24-2005, 12:07 PM
Thanks for the insight Zach.

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 12:08 PM
while I agree with the statement that we need O-Line men and would have liked to have seen one drafted in that slot.To say a player just drafted 10 minutes ago is camp fodder is just dumb especially from someone whose been pimping scanlon since the day we drafted him.in what the 6th round last year.


The fact we need OL depth is one thing.

Rich wasn't drafted ......... FA PU.

This Boomer has ability but lack NFL skills to compete right away, he will have to learn as he goes. His biggest selling point is he is a good run stuffer, better suited for a 3-4 than a 4-3 because of his lack of coverage skills and getting caught up in blocks.

The fact that we have 10 LB's now for 7 spots creates depth and good TC competition.

IMHO, I see Mitchell being moved to the outside to compete with Fox and Caver. IMHO, Maz is done, but only time will tell if he can keep up with the young'ns. Barber is a lock if he can compete at an NFL level after the injury, I'm not sold on him being back 100 %.

At this time, the way Rich is playing now getting experence in the NFL schemes, I would rate him ahead of Boomer. The problem with Rich when he gets to camp is he will be a tired puppy from NFLE. Right now he is on pace to lead the NFLE in tackles.

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 12:09 PM
Nice to see you on here, but he will be training camp fodder . The guy has too many issues to learn and be taught to be on an NFL team right away.

Sorry, I'm disappointed with the pick because we have an aging OL to repair.
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royr17
04-24-2005, 12:11 PM
As of after 4 games in NFL Europe, Rich has 32 tackles, which is not bad at all.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 12:17 PM
As of after 4 games in NFL Europe, Rich has 32 tackles, which is not bad at all.

Good, he can put that on his resume when he is looking for a new team.

:p

unlurking
04-24-2005, 12:18 PM
I have a feeling both Caver and Barber are June 1 cuts.

htismaqe
04-24-2005, 12:19 PM
Nice to see you on here, but he will be training camp fodder . The guy has too many issues to learn and be taught to be on an NFL team right away.

Sorry, I'm disappointed with the pick because we have an aging OL to repair.

Dude, you're a MASSIVE hypocrite.

Rich Scanlon came in with LESS credentials than this guy, a lower draft grade, and you instantly pencilled him in as the best thing since sliced bread.

Sack up and admit you're playing favorites.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 12:20 PM
Dude, you're a MASSIVE hypocrite.

Rich Scanlon came in with LESS credentials than this guy, a lower draft grade, and you instantly pencilled him in as the best thing since sliced bread.

Sack up and admit you're playing favorites.
:clap:

Valiant
04-24-2005, 12:21 PM
Nice to see you on here, but he will be training camp fodder . The guy has too many issues to learn and be taught to be on an NFL team right away.

Sorry, I'm disappointed with the pick because we have an aging OL to repair.



Sounds like scanlon...

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 12:22 PM
Boomer definitely looks like one of those small school MLB's that gets overlooked and brings a lot to the table in the NFL...Much like a Sam Mills (RIP)

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 12:24 PM
This Boomer has ability but lack NFL skills to compete right away, he will have to learn as he goes. .


Absolutely every rookie including those taken with the 1st pick in the draft every year have to learn as they go....

I would have loved a 5th round gamble on McPherson but this looks like a very good sleeper pick to me.

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 12:38 PM
Dude, you're a MASSIVE hypocrite.

Rich Scanlon came in with LESS credentials than this guy, a lower draft grade, and you instantly pencilled him in as the best thing since sliced bread.

Sack up and admit you're playing favorites.

MASSIVE ?

Hardly, All I can do is give you an opinion, much like yours or anybody else on here.

The fact that you claim LESS creditials, you might want to look up Gil Brandt's take on Scanlon before you let you mouth jerk you chain again.

All I can do is compare the predraft reports of both players for you.

Rich Scanlon
Position: Middle/Outside Linebacker
College: Syracuse
Height: 6-1
Weight: 247
Hometown: Oradell, N.J.

Analysis | Agility | High School | Personal

OVERVIEW
Developing talent who blossomed as a senior, leading the team while ranking third in the Big East Conference and eighth in the nation in tackles in 2003 … Aggressive tackler who also excelled on the special team coverage units … Also garnered honors for his excellent academic standing the last three years … Ranks eighth on the school's career-record list with 24½ stops behind the line of scrimmage … Recorded 277 tackles (178 solos) with 4½ sacks for minus-32 yards, three fumble recoveries, two forced fumbles, eight pass breakups and a pair of interceptions in 43 games.
ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a muscular upper body with a good bubble, thick legs and calves … Shows quickness and agility reacting to the play … Smart, focused defender who shows good knee bend and explosion behind his tackles … Uses his hands effectively to shed … Shows good discipline diagnosing the plays … Runs well in pursuit and is fluid in his pass drops … Shows good ball awareness, using his hands effectively to mirror tight ends and backs working in the short area … Has the hand jolt needed to generate pressure and is very active with those hands in defeating cut blocks … Sees all blocking patterns in front of him and takes on the blocker using the right arm and shoulder.
Negatives: Sometimes gets caught up in the inside trash (when he lines up wide, he tends to take bad angles to the ball) … Needs to show better knee bend when trying to contain the inside run … Hands are smaller than ideal, but compensates with consistent stun-and-jolt usage … Makes some key-and-read mistakes but generally will find his way towards the ball.

AGILITY TESTS
4.54 in the 40-yard dash (indoor track) … 4.62 in the 40-yard dash (outdoors).


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

James "Boomer" Grigsby
Position: Middle Linebacker
College: Illinois State
Height: 6-0
Weight: 242
Hometown: Canton, Ill.

Analysis | Injury Report | Agility | High School | Personal


OVERVIEW
James "Boomer" Grigsby was an all-area selection as a senior at Canton (Ill.) High, recording 120 tackles (80 solo) with five sacks and 10 stops for loss. He led his team to a 10-2 record and a spot in the Class 4A playoffs. The honor roll student also excelled in gymnastics, winning the USTA trampoline and double mini championship as a member of the AAU national team. He also was a three-time All-American trampoline award champion.

The son of Paula and David Grigsby, he was born James Grigsby but was nicknamed Boomer by his grandmother on the date of his birth (Nov. 15, 1981). Grigsby is an avid weightlifter who takes great pride in his work ethic. He has become a "hometown" hero as the city of Canton, Ill., is supportive and many residents travel to watch him play in his home games.

Grigsby redshirted in 2000 at Illinois State, but set a school freshman record the following year as he posted 93 tackles (52 solo) with three sacks and five stops behind the line of scrimmage. He earned Gateway Conference Defensive Player of the Year honors and was a consensus All-America pick in 2002, registering 179 tackles (108 solo) with four sacks, 16 stops for loss, two forced fumbles and two fumble recoveries. Only Galen Scott (186 in 1998) recorded more tackles in a season at ISU.

He finished second in the voting for the Buck Buchanan Award (given to the top defensive player in the Division 1-AA ranks), was a unanimous All-America choice and picked up Gateway Defensive Player of the Year honors in 2003. He again totaled 179 tackles (109 solo) with three sacks and 12 stops behind the line of scrimmage, leading the Gateway in tackles for the second straight year.

Grigsby again garnered All-America and Gateway Player of the Year accolades as a senior despite missing the season finale with a knee injury. He finished third in the Buck Buchanan Award voting, finishing his senior year with 129 tackles (56 solo), three sacks, 8½ stops behind the line of scrimmage and two forced fumbles.

In 44 games as a Redbird, Grigsby started 40 times. He recorded 580 tackles (325 solo), breaking the conference and school career record of 579 set by Galen Scott (1997-2000). He also had 13 sacks for minus-77 yards and 41½ stops for losses of 132 yards. Only Scott (43) and John Kropke (54, 1984-87) had more tackles behind the line of scrimmage in school history. His six fumble recoveries tied the ISU record of six, set by several players (most recently by Jerry Creer, 1993-96). He also caused five fumbles and deflected seven passes.


ANALYSIS
Grigsby is a bit undersized and will have to operate in a 4-3 defense in the pros, or possibly move to weak-side linebacker to take advantage of his foot speed. Grigsby would be best served operating in a system that will cover him up and let him roam free. He is a much better performer making plays on the move, as he does not always use his hands effectively to prevent blockers from getting into his exposed chest and stonewalling him on the play. He lacks natural hands for the interception, and while he will make the effort, his small hands make him fight to secure the ball.

Blessed with exceptional quickness, for some reason this avid weightlifter's strength does not always translate to the football field. He has the speed to string plays wide, but when asked to face up he struggles to shed. He just seems to lack the size with bulk to hold up at the point of attack at times. He has very good lateral agility and reads the full flow of the ball well. He is very instinctive making reads and is alert to blocking schemes.

He has a great closing burst and good range vs. the run. Grigsby also does a good job of avoiding blocks on the move, which allows him to angle and take the shorter route to the ball carrier.

On the run, he is capable of taking proper angles to the ball and using his speed to slip through trash and make tackles in the backfield. He is more of an arm tackler, leading to a lot of missed hits as the bigger runners are able to slip off his shots. Grigsby is a powerful tackler but needs to improve his hand usage in order to gain good leverage. He seems to run around blocks too often, and while he has good lateral agility, looks a little stiff in his hips when having to redirect.

Against the inside run, his weight-room strength does not translate to the field. He has trouble shedding at times and can get pushed around working inside the box. He is a good wrap-up tackler who can generate pop, but sometimes looks soft taking on the lead block and needs to bring his feet and explode into the ball carrier better. He is more of a move-oriented tackler, as he does not make many tackles head-on, but can wrap and drag the opponent down.

His pass-coverage skills, especially in one-on-one situations, are lacking. He seems to be late reacting to the receiver's moves and lacks the size to reroute tight ends. He needs to get better hand placement in pass protection and must do a better hob of getting to the drop point when playing in the zone.

As a pass rusher, he lacks any type of moves to be consistent here. He fails to avoid blockers on the inside blitz, but shows suddenness when coming off the edge and having a clear lane. His strength in the weight room could be better featured if only he'd face up more on tackles. He has marginal pass-drop agility and is prone to reading fakes and biting on play-action in pass coverage. He needs to learn better zone coverage responsibilities, as Grigsby is not always in the right spot in his pass drop.

Grigsby has good athletic ability and can contribute on the next level, but it's doubtful if he will ever come close to matching his collegiate statistics. Some teams might be considering him as a strong safety, as they feel he has reached maximum size growth potential. But with his pass coverage difficulties, it would be tough to make a position change at this time.


INJURY REPORT
2004: Sat out the season finale vs. Florida Atlantic after undergoing surgery on Nov. 17 to repair a torn lateral meniscus in his left knee.


AGILITY
4.55 in the 40-yard dash … 400-pound bench press … 600-pound squat … 335-pound power clean … 36-inch vertical jump … 30Ό-inch arm length … 9Ό-inch hands … Right-handed



Now who has more negatives and more positives ?

Wile_E_Coyote
04-24-2005, 12:41 PM
Q&A http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/04/24/qa_lb_james_grigsby/

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 12:43 PM
Absolutely every rookie including those taken with the 1st pick in the draft every year have to learn as they go....

I would have loved a 5th round gamble on McPherson but this looks like a very good sleeper pick to me.

Maybe they have the idea of him playing OLB, it says he excells in space .

I expected the Chiefs to go on offense after yesterdays pick of Johnson.

Our D has taken a good turn as far as player ability, let's see if they can jell together.

I think too many here are under estimating Scanlon's ability and sound play.

Again, it's my opinion .

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 12:47 PM
It does appear that Boomer has alot of ability, but just lacking skills needed at the present time.

But anybody who can honestly say he is ahead of Rich at this time is reaching for something that isn't there.

Coach
04-24-2005, 12:47 PM
Q: Did it bother you that you didn’t get attention from anyone else, or did you just shut off the other attention?

GRIGSBY: “It might have made me a little angry, but I just used it to my advantage to make all those tackles in college. I figure (I made) about 580 tackles. There’s probably about 580 people that p—sed me off.”

ROFL Awesome.

Zach
04-24-2005, 12:56 PM
The key for Boomer is going to be how he uses his hands. When stacked in a "Zero Technique", scouts have been critical because he doesn't attack the guard or center and instead just runs around them for the tackle. It's very similiar to DJ, who we drafted in the first, in that they've relied on their speed more than perfecting their technique. He will need to attack the blockers more in the NFL.

I disagree with a poster made earlier about Boomer having to play in a 3-4. He's a natural 4-3 Mike Backer as he is there to stuff the run and will come out of the game in a nickle package. In college he stayed on the field, and showed he could play on the TE and flats in the Shrine game and private workouts.

Boomer will be a great special teams guy, and will bring the best out of Kawika and Rich. May the best player win. I'm a Chiefs fan first and foremost, so I just want the best for the Chiefs.

All-in-all, it's a great move for the Chiefs. The more competition the better, especially on our defense and LB Corp.

Zach
04-24-2005, 12:59 PM
I love that we're having a discussion on a 5th round pick and how he plays into the Chief's defense next year.

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 01:01 PM
<img src="http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/A0F41379D36B463896E3E2B2AEB8D5B4.JPG?0.24956967204077196" style="width: 306px; height: 173px; border: 0" alt="" />

After reading his interview, he's definitely my favorite Chiefs' fifth-round linebacker since Fooj. :D

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 01:03 PM
I love that we're having a discussion on a 5th round pick and how he plays into the Chief's defense next year.

Best place on the web to have a discussion like this. I had a lot a fun on here this weekend.

:bravo:

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 01:11 PM
This kid has all the tools. Richie better polish up his insurance selling skills.

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 01:32 PM
This kid has all the tools. Richie better polish up his insurance selling skills.

IIRC, he will go to medical school . Reason he didn't get drafted plus the fact that so many LB's were available last year.

Don't pencil anybody in just yet.

Ari Chi3fs
04-24-2005, 01:37 PM
You are just pissed bc this means Scanlon gets cut.

Scanlon wont get cut after this years NFL Europe ownage.

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 01:41 PM
IIRC, he will go to medical school . Reason he didn't get drafted plus the fact that so many LB's were available last year.

Don't pencil anybody in just yet.
ROFL I posted that to needle you.

Mr. Laz
04-24-2005, 01:44 PM
one good thing about our current linebackers is that Kendrall Bell and Derrick Johnson are both flexible enough to play at multiple positions.


with all the injuries, we need that.


if any of these linebackers do step up, we can adjust

if this grisby guy OR even rich scanlon does prove something we can always move Bell to the outside to start.



fujita can prolly line up at any of the linebackers position as well.

Sponge Bob
04-24-2005, 01:44 PM
Ha ha, it's going to be funny when Scanlon makes the team and many members here will find that needle back in their own sides.

htismaqe
04-24-2005, 01:47 PM
How very Proctor-esque...

1) Vehemently attack anyone, player, coach, or fan, who dares say or do something that doesn't agree with your view of your favorite underdog player or coach.

2) When people respond, play the victim and hide behind the "hey, it's just my opinion" statement.

Sorry, but you're full of shit. Boomer was rated by every major draft service as a 5th-round value. Scanlon wasn't even on alot of draft boards.

You and the other Roy have sulked around here all afternoon like the mailman just ran over your dog.

htismaqe
04-24-2005, 01:55 PM
Ha ha, it's going to be funny when Scanlon makes the team and many members here will find that needle back in their own sides.

First you use Proctor tactics and now TOM CASH?

Shame on you, Roy. Do you think we're stupid?

Using multiple accounts to defend yourself in an argument is 100% against the rules here. This is your one and only warning.

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 01:56 PM
How very Proctor-esque...

1) Vehemently attack anyone, player, coach, or fan, who dares say or do something that doesn't agree with your view of your favorite underdog player or coach.

2) When people respond, play the victim and hide behind the "hey, it's just my opinion" statement.

Sorry, but you're full of shit. Boomer was rated by every major draft service as a 5th-round value. Scanlon wasn't even on alot of draft boards.

You and the other Roy have sulked around here all afternoon like the mailman just ran over your dog.


Again, you speak of truth unknown. Scanlon was projected to go in the 1st 4 rounds by Gil Brandt's views. His commitment to medical school was a reason teams shielded away from him. It wasn't until after the draft that his family told him to go try the NFL out.

You see teams this year turning away from players with issues as well.

Attack ? How is your attack different ? I see them as a difference in opinions instead of attacks.

Full of shit ? Sounds like alot of that in Iowa these days and you are doing your part to keep up the tradition.

Enjoy !

|Zach|
04-24-2005, 01:58 PM
Sounds like a good pick to me.

|Zach|
04-24-2005, 02:00 PM
On a side note, this Zach thing is confusing as hell.

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 02:03 PM
There are alot of Zack's on this planet.

|Zach|
04-24-2005, 02:04 PM
There are alot of Zack's on this planet.
There are no Zack's.

unlurking
04-24-2005, 02:06 PM
22 posts in 4 years?!?! And what, a quarter of them coming today?!?!

You are a true lurker!

;)

penchief
04-24-2005, 02:06 PM
I love that we're having a discussion on a 5th round pick and how he plays into the Chief's defense next year.

Linebacker is an area worthy of discussion. It sounds like he's a football player above all. The chiefs need defensive players with attitude.

He appears to have size, speed, and an attitude reminiscent of Dino Hackett.

htismaqe
04-24-2005, 02:07 PM
Again, you speak of truth unknown. Scanlon was projected to go in the 1st 4 rounds by Gil Brandt's views. His commitment to medical school was a reason teams shielded away from him. It wasn't until after the draft that his family told him to go try the NFL out.

You see teams this year turning away from players with issues as well.

Attack ? How is your attack different ? I see them as a difference in opinions instead of attacks.

Full of shit ? Sounds like alot of that in Iowa these days and you are doing your part to keep up the tradition.

Enjoy !

Great Blue North rated Scanlon as the 37th-best ILB and 91st-best undrafted FA. They didn't even have him on their 7-round board. NFL Draft Countdown didn't have him on their board either. That's TWO that I found within 30 seconds.

As for me being from Iowa, what the **** does that have to do with anything? Are you not from KENTUCKY?

Eat shit, loser.

Count Zarth
04-24-2005, 02:11 PM
Are you not from KENTUCKY?

Eat shit, loser.


ROFL

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 02:12 PM
Great Blue North rated Scanlon as the 37th-best ILB and 91st-best undrafted FA. They didn't even have him on their 7-round board. NFL Draft Countdown didn't have him on their board either. That's TWO that I found within 30 seconds.

As for me being from Iowa, what the **** does that have to do with anything? Are you not from KENTUCKY?

Eat shit, loser.


Great Blue North ? WTF is that ?

Try this .....
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/7234043


End of story ! :deevee:

|Zach|
04-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Great Blue North ? WTF is that ?


Hopefully some day Great Blue North will be as much of a household name as Gill Bradnt.

htismaqe
04-24-2005, 02:16 PM
Great Blue North ? WTF is that ?

Try this .....
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/7234043


End of story ! :deevee:

Absolutely freaking brilliant. It IS end of story.

You just posted a pre-draft scouting report that says Key Fox and Rich Scanlon are better than DEFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR JONATHAN VILMA.

You're a goddamn retard.

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 02:20 PM
Absolutely freaking brilliant. It IS end of story.

You just posted a pre-draft scouting report that says Key Fox and Rich Scanlon are better than DEFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR JONATHAN VILMA.

You're a goddamn retard.

So you like to be a 20/20 know it all ? That's Cool .

The predraft report was long before the players ever got on the field and produced. I do think it was his top 10 picks, it did not give any specific order. Most knew that DJ Williams was a solid pick and he was listed low on that article.

Me senses that you are reaching for leverage again.

Where was Jared Allen projected ? He produced once the chance came around.

Retard, it would be nice to see you stop acting like one. This is a discussion, either enjoy it or opt out.

chiefs4me
04-24-2005, 02:20 PM
If you haven't been watching rich light up the highlight screen every week for the nfle......you just might want to check it out. I think we all might see a different Rich in camp this year. :)


Beside most of you all don't like him because his ass looks great in those tights.........ROFL

|Zach|
04-24-2005, 02:21 PM
Retard, it would be nice to see you stop acting like one. This is a discussion, either enjoy it or opt out.
This is a discussion, either enjoy it or opt out or use another name to continue it.

Bwana
04-24-2005, 02:23 PM
Beside most of you all don't like him because his ass looks great in those tights.........ROFL

:spock:

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 02:23 PM
This is a discussion, either enjoy it or opt out or use another name to continue it.


ROFL

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 02:24 PM
:spock:

My guess is she likes the booty !

Ari Chi3fs
04-24-2005, 02:35 PM
Hey Zach... watch out... there is this other Zach you may need to keep an eye on. I dont think he likes you much.

chiefs4me
04-24-2005, 02:36 PM
My guess is she likes the booty !




And his face isin't bad to look at either..:p

But in all honesty, I didn't really care for him last year. But since there is no hockey I have been watching the nfle football. And the boy has impressed me with his playing....and I think he has matured, at least in the interviews I have seen, he seems to have grown up and realized it's not a given anymore.:)

|Zach|
04-24-2005, 02:40 PM
Hey Zach... watch out... there is this other Zach you may need to keep an eye on. I dont think he likes you much.
Ha, I will need to kill this guy off.

In all seriousness if he posts more I am just waiting for someone that doesn't like me to unleash some brutality on him.

I can just see it. "Ya there is this forum I lurked on for a while and these guys named Skip Towne and Big Daddy just hounded me to no end. It was crazy. All I did was talk football."

Zach seems like a cool poster and I hope he lurks less and post more. :thumb:

Ari Chi3fs
04-24-2005, 02:42 PM
Ha, I will need to kill this guy off.

In all seriousness if he posts more I am just waiting for someone that doesn't like me to unleash some brutality on him.

I can just see it. "Ya there is this forum I lurked on for a while and these guys named Skip Towne and Big Daddy just hounded me to no end. It was crazy. All I did was talk football."

Zach seems like a cool poster and I hope he lurks less and post more. :thumb:


Then I will need to register www.whichzach.com to keep you two straight.

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 02:49 PM
If you haven't been watching rich light up the highlight screen every week for the nfle......you just might want to check it out. I think we all might see a different Rich in camp this year. :)


Beside most of you all don't like him because his ass looks great in those tights.........ROFL
Where's that beer I sent you after yesterday?

htismaqe
04-24-2005, 02:49 PM
So you like to be a 20/20 know it all ? That's Cool .

The predraft report was long before the players ever got on the field and produced. I do think it was his top 10 picks, it did not give any specific order. Most knew that DJ Williams was a solid pick and he was listed low on that article.

Me senses that you are reaching for leverage again.

Where was Jared Allen projected ? He produced once the chance came around.

Retard, it would be nice to see you stop acting like one. This is a discussion, either enjoy it or opt out.

We WERE enjoying the discussion until you two showed up whining about how bad this pick was because of your love for Rich Scanlon...

ROYC75
04-24-2005, 03:18 PM
We WERE enjoying the discussion until you two showed up whining about how bad this pick was because of your love for Rich Scanlon...


I enjoy a good discussion as much as the next. As for defending what I feel about Rich's ability to play compaired to somebody else's opinion about Rich, I see no reason for name caling or getting upset, heated, etc.

Opinions are just opinions.


As much as many here like to degrade Rich's ability, I like to give it back and watch many here get bent out of shape .

It's all in good fun.

Bottom line, All I want is the best players available on out team and to win. Who those players are is the discussions within.

Zach
04-24-2005, 03:56 PM
Hey Boys--

Two things. First, how do I change my sn to something else, to take away from the Zach confusion?

How do I adopt Boomer to be my Adopt-A-Chief?

Thanks guys. It's been a great weekend.

Merril Hoge
04-24-2005, 03:57 PM
I tell you what, this guy can tackle a hell of alot better than Derrick Johnson.

royr17
04-24-2005, 04:04 PM
I tell you what, this guy can tackle a hell of alot better than Derrick Johnson.


Ha ha ha, this is just a troll. Ban him now. All this guy is doin is trying to piss us off.

Merril Hoge
04-24-2005, 04:07 PM
Ha ha ha, this is just a troll. Ban him now. All this guy is doin is trying to piss us off.

I'm just stating my opinion. I'm the most football-informed member of this discussion board at the moment. Did anyone else here play pro football?

royr17
04-24-2005, 04:08 PM
I'm just stating my opinion. I'm the most football-informed member of this discussion board at the moment. Did anyone else here play pro football?

This is not the real Merril Hodge so quit trying to act like you are, you troll.

ENDelt260
04-24-2005, 04:09 PM
And his face isin't bad to look at either..:p

Hahahahahahaha... he's only goofy looking f*cker.

Jenson71
04-24-2005, 04:10 PM
I'm just stating my opinion. I'm the most football-informed member of this discussion board at the moment. Did anyone else here play pro football?

Yes I did. My name is Joe Montana.

|Zach|
04-24-2005, 04:10 PM
This is not the real Merril Hodge so quit trying to act like you are
ROFL

ENDelt260
04-24-2005, 04:10 PM
Hey Boys--

Two things. First, how do I change my sn to something else, to take away from the Zach confusion?

How do I adopt Boomer to be my Adopt-A-Chief?

Thanks guys. It's been a great weekend.
What would you like your new name to be? I can change it for you.

Bob Dole
04-24-2005, 04:11 PM
The problem with Rich when he gets to camp is he will be a tired puppy from NFLE.

What a pussy.

Was Dante Hall a "tired puppy" after playing a full season at WR in NFLE?

siberian khatru
04-24-2005, 04:11 PM
Hey Boys--

Two things. First, how do I change my sn to something else, to take away from the Zach confusion?

How do I adopt Boomer to be my Adopt-A-Chief?

Thanks guys. It's been a great weekend.

Nobody's confusing you with ZachKC. Your posts are too reasonable and informed.

PunkinDrublic
04-24-2005, 04:11 PM
[QUOTE=Merril Hoge]I'm just stating my opinion. I'm the most football-informed member of this discussion board at the moment. Did anyone else here play pro football?

ROFL It's obvious you're shtick is to piss us all off but I have to say it is pretty funny.

Bob Dole
04-24-2005, 04:13 PM
This is not the real Merril Hodge so quit trying to act like you are, you troll.

That's pretty much a given, since it's common knowledge that the real Merril Hodge is illiterate.

Mr. Laz
04-24-2005, 04:14 PM
Nobody's confusing you with ZachKC. Your posts are too reasonable and informed.
SNAP!!


ZachKC gets swift kick to the mangina ROFL

Merril Hoge
04-24-2005, 04:14 PM
Yes I did. My name is Joe Montana.

DJ couldn't even tackle your pansy ass.

Merril Hoge
04-24-2005, 04:15 PM
ROFL It's obvious you're shtick is to piss us all off but I have to say it is pretty funny.

You won't be laughing when Derrick Johnson misses another tackle and lets someone score.

You know Denver's bootleg? DJ will overpursue badly on that, too.

ENDelt260
04-24-2005, 04:20 PM
Haha... another gem from his Q&A

Q: Did you have dreams of playing for the Illini growing up, that close to Normal [Illinois]?

GRIGSBY: “No. I really didn’t grow up as a big fan of Illinois. But Illinois State put some belief in me and I got a chance to play the Illini. I gave them 20 tackles-worth of not picking me out of high school.”

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 04:36 PM
Zach seems like a cool poster and I hope he lurks less and post more. :thumb:Yeah. You're a pretty special dude.

Brock
04-24-2005, 04:36 PM
You won't be laughing when Derrick Johnson misses another tackle and lets someone score.

You know Denver's bootleg? DJ will overpursue badly on that, too.

This is a really lame impersonation of an NFL analyst.

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 04:37 PM
That's pretty much a given, since it's common knowledge that the real Merril Hodge is illiterate.BOOM

milkman
04-24-2005, 04:42 PM
This is a really lame impersonation of an NFL analyst.


It really is Merril Hoge!

Merril Hoge
04-24-2005, 04:43 PM
You guys can smack all you want, but I'm making millions of dollars and I led the Steelers in rushing and receiving for four years.

Baby Lee
04-24-2005, 05:06 PM
You guys can smack all you want, but I'm making millions of dollars and I led the Steelers in rushing and receiving for four years.
Just your luck the NFL is so popular that ESPN can put duffers like you and Boomer on and people will still watch.
You're a weather girl without all the "weather and stuff" schooling.

Coach
04-24-2005, 05:27 PM
You won't be laughing when Derrick Johnson misses another tackle and lets someone score.

You know Denver's bootleg? DJ will overpursue badly on that, too.

And you won't be laughing when Gunther corrects that problem. If you can't recall, I suggest you go find the Week 1 tape and Week 15 tape, sit your ass down, and eat some Cheez-its while you figure out what the hell exactly happened. In fact, I believe that bootleg shit was figured out by that time, and when Denver realized that their bootleg wasn't going to work, they were f**ked. Apparently the scoreboard showed that they were, indeed, f**ked.

Merril Hoge
04-24-2005, 05:29 PM
And you won't be laughing when Gunther corrects that problem. If you can't recall, I suggest you go find the Week 1 tape and Week 15 tape, sit your ass down, and eat some Cheez-its while you figure out what the hell exactly happened. In fact, I believe that bootleg shit was figured out by that time, and when Denver realized that their bootleg wasn't going to work, they were f**ked. Apparently the scoreboard showed that they were, indeed, f**ked.

I remember that game. Denver stopped running the bootleg because they were down by so many points. Play-action doesn't work when you're losing by 21 points.

If I recall correctly, they still had over 100 yards rushing. If their defense had played better, they would have bootlegged to their hearts' content.

You can't argue with an expert analysis like that.

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 05:29 PM
What a pussy.

Was Dante Hall a "tired puppy" after playing a full season at WR in NFLE?Nope. That little bastard just kept on running!

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 05:41 PM
Nobody's confusing you with ZachKC. Your posts are too reasonable and informed.
Hahahahahahahaha

Coach
04-24-2005, 05:41 PM
I remember that game. Denver stopped running the bootleg because they were down by so many points. Play-action doesn't work when you're losing by 21 points.

If I recall correctly, they still had over 100 yards rushing. If their defense had played better, they would have bootlegged to their hearts' content.

You can't argue with an expert analysis like that.


The Chiefs totally detroyed Denver, LJ owned that entire "great defense", Kennision owned their boy Bailey, our sucky defense owned Plummer, and the Chiefs have more wins against quality teams this season and at best the Donks would have two games in total record over the Chiefs and still miss the playoffs.

No matter how you look at it Hodge, you have nothing left to smack on, the tank is dry.

Merril Hoge
04-24-2005, 05:43 PM
The Chiefs totally detroyed Denver, LJ owned that entire "great defense", Kennision owned their boy Bailey, our sucky defense owned Plummer, and the Chiefs have more wins against quality teams this season and at best the Donks would have two games in total record over the Chiefs and still miss the playoffs.

No matter how you look at it Hodge, you have nothing left to smack on, the tank is dry.

Your offense is top-notch, I agree.

chiefs4me
04-24-2005, 05:48 PM
You guys can smack all you want, but I'm making millions of dollars and I led the Steelers in rushing and receiving for four years.




ROFL.........a man that makes millions of dollars a year, is not going to be wasting his time fighting with unknown people on a fan site.:rolleyes:

Merril Hoge
04-24-2005, 05:49 PM
ROFL.........a man that makes millions of dollars a year, is not going to be wasting his time fighting with unknown people on a fan site.:rolleyes:

I'm not fighting, I'm attempting to educate you. Ok?

I have to go now...it's been fun. I'll check back later in the season, Chiefs fans. Good luck!

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 05:51 PM
ROFL.........a man that makes millions of dollars a year, is not going to be wasting his time fighting with unknown people on a fan site.:rolleyes:
Why not, I do it.

go bowe
04-24-2005, 06:50 PM
Ha, I will need to kill this guy off.

In all seriousness if he posts more I am just waiting for someone that doesn't like me to unleash some brutality on him.

I can just see it. "Ya there is this forum I lurked on for a while and these guys named Skip Towne and Big Daddy just hounded me to no end. It was crazy. All I did was talk football."

Zach seems like a cool poster and I hope he lurks less and post more. :thumb:"these guys...just hounded me to no end." and they called me a pillow biter, too... :p :p :p

|Zach|
04-24-2005, 06:52 PM
"these guys...just hounded me to no end." and they called me a pillow biter, too... :p :p :p
ROFL ROFL

yoswif
04-24-2005, 07:08 PM
I remember that game. Denver stopped running the bootleg because they were down by so many points. Play-action doesn't work when you're losing by 21 points.

If I recall correctly, they still had over 100 yards rushing. If their defense had played better, they would have bootlegged to their hearts' content.

You can't argue with an expert analysis like that.

If Champ Bailey can't cover Kennison, how is he any better in coverage than Johnson is at tackling? Or do "expert analysts" have a fluid standard for Broncos with big contracts?

gblowfish
04-24-2005, 07:47 PM
What could be better than drafting a new Grigsby? If this guy can swill Vodka Gimlets for the next forty years in the pressbox, it'll prove to be a shrewd pickup by King Carl. We use a third rounder to replace our punter...a fifth rounder to replace our comic relief in the broadcast booth. Bravo King Carl...Brilliant!

And you know Price Chopper is going to be all over this guy...
Prrrrrrrrrice Chopper! BOOOM!!!

Coach
04-24-2005, 07:51 PM
ROFL nice gblowfish

KC Margarita Man
04-24-2005, 07:57 PM
Does anybody else here think he looks like "the thing" from the Fantastic Four? Big head, no neck, big abs. looks like he's made of rock.

Spicy McHaggis
04-24-2005, 07:58 PM
Just read the interview for this guy. That's the kind of attittude we need. Gunther's bar fight D is back!!!

Lbedrock1
04-24-2005, 08:07 PM
You are just pissed bc this means Scanlon gets cut.
How could you forget to put Jared Allen on your picture? I predict he will have at least 15 sacks.

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 08:13 PM
How could you forget to put Jared Allen on your picture? I predict he will have at least 15 sacks.
Oh, at least that.

TRR
04-24-2005, 08:19 PM
This thread is classic. Two posters fighting over who is better, Boomer Grigsby or Rich Scanlon.

I'll answer both your questions on who is better...It doesn't matter. They'll both be sitting behind Kendrell Bell for a long time.