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bricks
04-24-2005, 12:10 PM
what happened? He's still there, and so is Attaj Hawthorne. If anybody can get any one of these guys sooner or later. I would think it is a late round steal.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 12:13 PM
I am excited about those 2 also. Plus Shazor and Nicholson 2 safeties that I like are left.

Shazor could be an OLB prospect too.

Also Mosley would be nice.

chop
04-24-2005, 12:13 PM
I heard Hawthorne tested positive for maijuana at the combine.

jspchief
04-24-2005, 12:13 PM
Shazor is still available too.


Hawthorne couldn't stay away from the sticky long enough to pass a drug test at the combine. That's just a whole new level of stupid. Hope he got really good and stoned, because it was a million dollar joint he was smoking.

HolmeZz
04-24-2005, 12:14 PM
I probably like Shazor the most.

Spicy McHaggis
04-24-2005, 12:14 PM
I'd take either. I really wanted to grab Will Poole when he was falling last year too. I wasn't a Hawthorne fan in day 1 but getting him or Browner with our 6th would be quite alright by me.

eazyb81
04-24-2005, 12:15 PM
I think teams view Browner as a CB/safety tweener. He might be a little too tall to be an effective CB in the pros.

I am still dumbfounded that CJ Mosley is on the board, I thought he would be a 2nd rounder for sure. I would love to see us trade up to draft him, he will be a great player.

wazu
04-24-2005, 12:15 PM
I don't get how Browner has fallen this far. Did he break his neck or something? Sporting news had KC drafting Browner in round 1!

There has to be an explanation.

royr17
04-24-2005, 12:16 PM
How the hell is Donte Nickolson still on the board ???

shaneo69
04-24-2005, 12:17 PM
I don't get how Browner has fallen this far. Did he break his neck or something? Sporting news had KC drafting Browner in round 1!

There has to be an explanation.

That's what a 4.65 in the forty will do to a CB.

HolmeZz
04-24-2005, 12:18 PM
How the hell is Donte Nickolson still on the board ???

He's not. :rolleyes:

royr17
04-24-2005, 12:19 PM
He's not. :rolleyes:

Are you sure, who did he go to ?

shaneo69
04-24-2005, 12:20 PM
How the hell is Donte Nickolson still on the board ???

He just went to Tampa in the 5th.

royr17
04-24-2005, 12:20 PM
NM

HolmeZz
04-24-2005, 12:20 PM
Are you sure, who did he go to ?

Tampa took him at the beginning of round 5.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 12:21 PM
Tampa took him at the beginning of round 5.

I need to pull my head out of my azz.

jspchief
04-24-2005, 12:22 PM
Shazor ran a 4.7. Damn that's too slow.

I liked the guy for the way he hits, but I don't think I want a 4.7

HolmeZz
04-24-2005, 12:27 PM
I don't care what he ran. The kid makes plays.

jspchief
04-24-2005, 12:33 PM
I don't care what he ran. The kid makes plays.Apparently NFL talent scouts put more emphasis on speed than you do.

All the good players that are dropping have bad 40 times.

wazu
04-24-2005, 12:34 PM
That's what a 4.65 in the forty will do to a CB.

Hmmm...the report I read said he was sub-4.5.

shaneo69
04-24-2005, 12:35 PM
Apparently NFL talent scouts put more emphasis on speed than you do.

All the good players that are dropping have bad 40 times.


This is why many teams put too much stock in 40 times. For these guys to have been so productive in college, they have to play faster than their stopwatch speed.

el borracho
04-24-2005, 12:46 PM
Browner is 6'3 1/2 and weighs 221. Any chance he adds 10-15 pounds and plays OLB in the NFL?

HolmeZz
04-24-2005, 01:08 PM
Swancutt just went to the Lions. I was looking out for him.

shaneo69
04-24-2005, 01:15 PM
Swancutt just went to the Lions. I was looking out for him.

ARC must be a little disappointed that his boys are getting dissed. OSU's other CB was supposed to be pretty good too, but I don't think he's gotten picked yet either.

Frosty
04-24-2005, 02:39 PM
ARC must be a little disappointed that his boys are getting dissed. OSU's other CB was supposed to be pretty good too, but I don't think he's gotten picked yet either.

Yeah, it's pretty surprising. My wife is a Lion's fan (left over from the Barry Sanders days), so that was okay, though I wanted him on the Chiefs.

I thought Browner made a huge mistake coming out early. I am surprised he fell so far, though. Kind of like Weathersby a few years ago (though that was partly because of the gunshot injury).

The other CB is Aric Williams. I thought he had a great year last year, since most teams threw away from Browner. I didn't expect him to go until the 6th or 7th,though, because of his size.

Mr. Laz
04-24-2005, 02:44 PM
we need to go ahead and pick him... browner can't have less potential than Khari long. :spock:

HolmeZz
04-24-2005, 02:57 PM
I really don't get how Browner and Shazor have fallen so far. They're Day 1 talent.

el borracho
04-24-2005, 03:11 PM
One more chance, maybe...

Rudy lost the toss
04-24-2005, 03:12 PM
I really don't get how Browner and Shazor have fallen so far. They're Day 1 talent.
How did 32 teams miss that?

eazyb81
04-24-2005, 03:17 PM
How shitty would it be to expect to be a 2nd or 3rd round pick, and then not get drafted at all. I hope we take Browner with our last pick, he has more potential then the stiff from Baylor.

eazyb81
04-24-2005, 03:46 PM
Green Bay just took a safety from Albany State over Ernest Shazor... :shake:

jspchief
04-24-2005, 03:50 PM
These guys must have some serious undisclosed skeletons...

HolmeZz
04-24-2005, 03:51 PM
Shazor will probably be OLB in the pros. There's going to be some very talented UFAs. I think teams can start signing them right after the draft's ended. Hopefully the Chiefs are on the horn with some of them.

el borracho
04-24-2005, 04:09 PM
I hope we are on the phone with this guy right now.

ct
04-24-2005, 05:03 PM
I'm very surprised Browner did not get drafted. That slow 40time may have scared people off, but as an Undrafted FA, the risk is nil, hope we give him a call tonight!

Pitt Gorilla
04-24-2005, 05:31 PM
How did 32 teams miss that?Fans and Draft gurus know much more than the team scouts and execs.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 05:33 PM
Fans and Draft gurus know much more than the team scouts and execs.

Well during the Mike Brown GM days in Cincy that was certainly true...Prior to this draft I would have said it true of Carl Peterson also. :D

Zach
04-24-2005, 05:40 PM
Just to touch on Shazor, I feel he'd be an excellent prospect to bring into camp. Since joining the University of Michigan he's put on a lot of weight trying to bulk up to Big 10-Saftey size, so projecting him to OLB is a bit of a stretch. The growth potential just doesn't seem to be there. On the other hand, he's as fast and hits harder than most OLB's--so size might not be that big of a factor.

The Saftey position, on the other hand, is changing in the NFL. Safties, especially, free-safties are having to cover more ground in two-deep schemes, and teams are only comitting 7 to the box.

You need speed to be a saftey, and bulk to play OLB--he has neither. BUT, he's a quality youngman with the chance to be special if he could some how bulk up or become faster.

Would be nice to see him on special teams in the preseason to see where he stacks up among the rest.

Zach
04-24-2005, 05:44 PM
I agree with posts on Browner. He was ranked top-10 in corners for much of the offseason, and I had even seen him projected as a top 20-pick in this weekends draft. His 40's times might have scared some people off, but his father is Keith Browner, the former NFL lineman.

I feel the problem with Browner is length. Scouts want tall corners, but want guys who can flip their hips and get out of their back pedal, while a player that's 6'4 will struggle to do that. I would not be suprised to see him on the other side of the ball at WR if he joins an NFL ball club.

With that being said, I don't understand the logic of him not going when other players of lesser ability went.

Woodrow Call
04-24-2005, 05:45 PM
Just to touch on Shazor, I feel he'd be an excellent prospect to bring into camp. Since joining the University of Michigan he's put on a lot of weight trying to bulk up to Big 10-Saftey size, so projecting him to OLB is a bit of a stretch. The growth potential just doesn't seem to be there. On the other hand, he's as fast and hits harder than most OLB's--so size might not be that big of a factor.

The Saftey position, on the other hand, is changing in the NFL. Safties, especially, free-safties are having to cover more ground in two-deep schemes, and teams are only comitting 7 to the box.

You need speed to be a saftey, and bulk to play OLB--he has neither. BUT, he's a quality youngman with the chance to be special if he could some how bulk up or become faster.

Would be nice to see him on special teams in the preseason to see where he stacks up among the rest.
:clap:

HolmeZz
04-24-2005, 05:57 PM
How did 32 teams miss that?

Alot of teams do things that can't be explained. Just look at Denver's draft. ;)

siberian khatru
04-24-2005, 05:58 PM
his father is Keith Browner, the former NFL lineman.



Who fell asleep on the bench during a game with Tampa. ROFL

shaneo69
04-24-2005, 06:00 PM
I agree with posts on Browner. He was ranked top-10 in corners for much of the offseason, and I had even seen him projected as a top 20-pick in this weekends draft. His 40's times might have scared some people off, but his father is Keith Browner, the former NFL lineman.

I feel the problem with Browner is length. Scouts want tall corners, but want guys who can flip their hips and get out of their back pedal, while a player that's 6'4 will struggle to do that. I would not be suprised to see him on the other side of the ball at WR if he joins an NFL ball club.


Lenny Walls is 6'4 and has turned into a decent CB.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 06:01 PM
Considering we have garbage behind Surtain and Warfield with the exception of Phonso that we just drafted, you would sure think Browner's agent would be targeting KC as a possible FA signing...

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 06:14 PM
Fans and Draft gurus know much more than the team scouts and execs.
Of course. We're fortunate to have so many geniouses on the Planet.

Frosty
04-24-2005, 07:41 PM
I feel the problem with Browner is length. Scouts want tall corners, but want guys who can flip their hips and get out of their back pedal, while a player that's 6'4 will struggle to do that. I would not be suprised to see him on the other side of the ball at WR if he joins an NFL ball club.

He was originally recruited out of high school as a WR.

SCTrojan
04-24-2005, 07:49 PM
Chiefs need to get some new blood for depth at the CB position. Signing Browner as a FA would be a decent move.

Rain Man
04-24-2005, 08:13 PM
I think there was a mock draft last week that had Browner going to the Chiefs...in the first round.

siberian khatru
04-24-2005, 08:16 PM
I think there was a mock draft last week that had Browner going to the Chiefs...in the first round.

I don't know if it was last week, but a month ago I saw one like that. I about shit, since I didn't like the guy. But now that he's a FA, there's nothing to lose bringing him and seeing what he's got.

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 08:16 PM
I think there was a mock draft last week that had Browner going to the Chiefs...in the first round.
That's why I pay no attention to mock drafts. They're worthless. Where have you been all weekend? You don't like football do you?

Ninjaman
04-24-2005, 09:29 PM
SLOW

Rain Man
04-24-2005, 09:31 PM
That's why I pay no attention to mock drafts. They're worthless. Where have you been all weekend? You don't like football do you?

I had kind of an up and down weekend.

Miles
04-24-2005, 09:35 PM
Even with the slow time id love to see us bring Browner in. While he is an odd size for CB (possibly too big) he might make a nice FS. And if we sign him maybe he could borrow Woods's "speed coach" ;)

Morgan State 60
04-25-2005, 02:21 PM
The Rocky Mountain News is reporting that Brandon Browner has reached an agreement with the Denver Broncos.

HolmeZz
04-25-2005, 03:11 PM
Yeah, Browner's a Donk. And Shazor signed with the Cards.

tyton75
04-25-2005, 03:32 PM
demmit.. why the hell didn't we take a flyer on him in the 7th instead of that QB thats not going to be on the team?!

patteeu
04-25-2005, 03:32 PM
The Rocky Mountain News is reporting that Brandon Browner has reached an agreement with the Denver Broncos.

Whew, for a minute I thought the Broncos were going to have a CB shortage.

the Talking Can
04-25-2005, 03:34 PM
demmit.. why the hell didn't we take a flyer on him in the 7th instead of that QB thats not going to be on the team?!

because he sucks?